Hi Deb:

Thanks for the reply.
I especially appreciate your comments concerning learning Rails as well as Ruby.

Alan

Deb Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:     concur with Steve's list; AWDwR is the 
essential Rails  reference, 2nd edition was just published a few weeks ago so 
be sure to get the  new version; ditto Programming Ruby "pickax" is the classic 
Ruby language  text.
  
  Am just starting to read the new 2nd edition of Hal  Fulton's Ruby Way, so 
can't yet suggest what role it fills on a ruby bookshelf,  but I understand 
it's very well-regarded and my initial sense is that it'll be a  useful 
addition and a good source for techniques.  It's not trying to be a  tutorial, 
so it might be more effective as a second book after you've  learned the 
language basics and need a stronger understanding of the idioms and  the reason 
why you can can/should do things in certain  ways.

  
 Another book that I'd recommend is David Black's Ruby  for Rails; I'd almost 
suggest it as a first ruby book (backed up by Programming  Ruby which is more 
effective in its language reference sections) for  someone whose principal 
focus for learning Ruby is to become an effective Rails  programmer.  R4R is 
both a good text on the Ruby language and has  nice discussions of some of the 
more interesting features of the language, while  at the same time using Rails 
examples to provide a focus.
  
 If you're going to work in Rails, you really need  to become a competent Ruby 
programmer as well.  It's probably possible to  get fairly well along with only 
a superficial understanding of Ruby, but you'll  be far more effective if you 
have a good grasp of the the language and its  idioms.
  
 ~ Deb

  
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen  Waits
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:49 PM
To:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sdruby] Ruby on Rails class at  UCSD Extension -- your thoughts?


 

  On Dec 21, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Alan Lane wrote:

 What    are the generally accepted texts for learning Ruby (the pickaxe book, 
of    course) and Rails? I want to compare your thoughts with what the course 
text/s    end up being.
 

Generally, these are most common.. 
 * Agile Web Development with Rails, 2e
 * Ruby Programming, 2e (pickaxe)
 

 And I'd personally add The Ruby Way, 2e.
 

 --Steve

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