Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Josh Reynolds]

+1 same

...and good insurance just in case, with the customer always signing the
install waiver/docs.

On Sep 14, 2016 8:56 PM, "Colin Stanners"  wrote:

> I've done 1000+ installs drilling through roofs and have never seen water
> damage due to our work. With good application of sealant, in the hole and
> between the surfaces a bit before driving a lag, and making sure to hit
> studs where needed, installs won't leak unless a really strong storm blows
> them apart, and in that case it's not your problem.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Jerry Head 
> wrote:
>
>> No drilling through roofs here either. One water damage repair can offset
>> 2-3 years of revenue from that customer easily.
>>
>>
>> On 9/14/2016 11:26 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>
>>> We do.  I know people do it all the time safely but I'm not that lucky
>>> and if anyone else messes up then I'll be the one having to deal with it.
>>>
>>> TJ Trout wrote:
>>>

 These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous
 even though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
 policy? Or am I just being too careful?


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Colin Stanners]

I've done 1000+ installs drilling through roofs and have never seen water
damage due to our work. With good application of sealant, in the hole and
between the surfaces a bit before driving a lag, and making sure to hit
studs where needed, installs won't leak unless a really strong storm blows
them apart, and in that case it's not your problem.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Jerry Head 
wrote:

> No drilling through roofs here either. One water damage repair can offset
> 2-3 years of revenue from that customer easily.
>
>
> On 9/14/2016 11:26 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>
>> We do.  I know people do it all the time safely but I'm not that lucky
>> and if anyone else messes up then I'll be the one having to deal with it.
>>
>> TJ Trout wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous
>>> even though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
>>> policy? Or am I just being too careful?
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Jay Weekley]

We have do relocations from time to time due to foliage growth which 
makes mounts on roofs less appealing.


Jeremy wrote:
Everything goes at the peak.  All roofs get drilled.  Mastic under 
everything, Henry's over if needed.


On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Jerry Head > wrote:


No drilling through roofs here either. One water damage repair can
offset 2-3 years of revenue from that customer easily.


On 9/14/2016 11:26 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

We do.  I know people do it all the time safely but I'm not
that lucky and if anyone else messes up then I'll be the one
having to deal with it.

TJ Trout wrote:


These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me
real nervous even though I've done hundreds before. Does
anyone have a no roof drilling policy? Or am I just being
too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Jeremy]

Those clamps are amazing!  What a great idea for metal roofs. We try not to
ever drill into metal roofs.  What a pain to stock them all though.  Do you
guys reschedule and order parts, or do you find one that works for most
roofing styles in your area?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> Only if you wrench them down. And they seem to have clamps for just about
> any type of metal roof you can imagine on their website.
> http://www.s-5.com/clamps/index_1048.cfm
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:53:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> Do those clamps smash the seam flat?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Tyler
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:38 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> For example...
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:36:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> They make clamps for metal roofs, so you don't have to drill into them,
> non-penetrating.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:24:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?
>
> We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't
> lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
> have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.
>
> Gilbert
>
> Phoenix Internet
>
>
> On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
> >
> > These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
> > though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
> > policy? Or am I just being too careful?
> >
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Jeremy]

Everything goes at the peak.  All roofs get drilled.  Mastic under
everything, Henry's over if needed.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Jerry Head 
wrote:

> No drilling through roofs here either. One water damage repair can offset
> 2-3 years of revenue from that customer easily.
>
>
> On 9/14/2016 11:26 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>
>> We do.  I know people do it all the time safely but I'm not that lucky
>> and if anyone else messes up then I'll be the one having to deal with it.
>>
>> TJ Trout wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous
>>> even though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
>>> policy? Or am I just being too careful?
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Jerry Head]

No drilling through roofs here either. One water damage repair can 
offset 2-3 years of revenue from that customer easily.



On 9/14/2016 11:26 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We do.  I know people do it all the time safely but I'm not that lucky 
and if anyone else messes up then I'll be the one having to deal with it.


TJ Trout wrote:


These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous 
even though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof 
drilling policy? Or am I just being too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Christopher Tyler]

Only if you wrench them down. And they seem to have clamps for just about any 
type of metal roof you can imagine on their website.
http://www.s-5.com/clamps/index_1048.cfm

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:53:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

Do those clamps smash the seam flat?

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Tyler
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

For example...

-- 
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:36:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

They make clamps for metal roofs, so you don't have to drill into them, 
non-penetrating.

-- 
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:24:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?

We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't
lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.


-Original Message- 
From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.

Gilbert

Phoenix Internet


On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
> though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
> policy? Or am I just being too careful?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Chuck McCown]

Do those clamps smash the seam flat?

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Tyler

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

For example...

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:36:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

They make clamps for metal roofs, so you don't have to drill into them, 
non-penetrating.


--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:24:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?

We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't
lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.


-Original Message- 
From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.

Gilbert

Phoenix Internet


On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:


These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
policy? Or am I just being too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Ken Hohhof]

Nice.  I'm not sure the residential metal roofs have enough of a seam to 
clamp onto.


I've got tripods on a few roofs similar to the one in your photo, and the 
roof barely slopes, I've just put a regular non-pen up there with thick 
rubber pads underneath.



-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Tyler

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

For example...

--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:36:08 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

They make clamps for metal roofs, so you don't have to drill into them, 
non-penetrating.


--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:24:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?

We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't
lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.


-Original Message- 
From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.

Gilbert

Phoenix Internet


On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:


These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
policy? Or am I just being too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Christopher Tyler]

http://www.s-5.com/clamps/index_1048.cfm

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:39:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

You mean like this?

http://www.contractortalk.com/attachments/f11/91390d1367515172-bracing-satellite-dish-standing-seam-metal-roof-1.jpg

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> They make clamps for metal roofs, so you don't have to drill into them,
> non-penetrating.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:24:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?
>
> We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't
> lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
> have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.
>
> Gilbert
>
> Phoenix Internet
>
>
> On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
> >
> > These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
> > though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
> > policy? Or am I just being too careful?
> >
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Eric Kuhnke]

You mean like this?

http://www.contractortalk.com/attachments/f11/91390d1367515172-bracing-satellite-dish-standing-seam-metal-roof-1.jpg

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> They make clamps for metal roofs, so you don't have to drill into them,
> non-penetrating.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:24:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?
>
> We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't
> lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof
>
> We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
> have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.
>
> Gilbert
>
> Phoenix Internet
>
>
> On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
> >
> > These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
> > though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
> > policy? Or am I just being too careful?
> >
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Christopher Tyler]

They make clamps for metal roofs, so you don't have to drill into them, 
non-penetrating.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:24:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?

We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't 
lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.


-Original Message- 
From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.

Gilbert

Phoenix Internet


On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even 
> though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling 
> policy? Or am I just being too careful?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Ken Hohhof]

IMHO, a (properly installed) tripod is much sturdier than a regular J-pipe 
style mount, due to the wider footprint on the roof.  If a tripod blows off in 
a windstorm, a piece of the roof probably blew away still attached to it (and 
went to Oz).


From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

Just about every install we did in Alaska was a 3ft tripod with 5ft pole.

Thousands of them.

No roof complaints in over 10 years of operation.


On Sep 14, 2016 10:18 AM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

  These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even 
though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling policy? 
Or am I just being too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Jay Weekley]

We do.  I know people do it all the time safely but I'm not that lucky 
and if anyone else messes up then I'll be the one having to deal with it.


TJ Trout wrote:


These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous 
even though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof 
drilling policy? Or am I just being too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Ken Hohhof]

Yeah, but you live in an area with those red tile roofs, right?

We are starting to get metal roofs on houses, and I'm the same way, I won't 
lag into those.  Plus they reflect RF.



-Original Message- 
From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we
have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.

Gilbert

Phoenix Internet


On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:


These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even 
though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling 
policy? Or am I just being too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.]

We will not drill into a roof. If a roof penetration is necessary, we 
have the customer's roofer make it so that we do not own it.


Gilbert

Phoenix Internet


On 9/14/2016 8:18 AM, TJ Trout wrote:


These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous 
even though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof 
drilling policy? Or am I just being too careful?

Re: [AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[Josh Reynolds]

Just about every install we did in Alaska was a 3ft tripod with 5ft pole.

Thousands of them.

No roof complaints in over 10 years of operation.

On Sep 14, 2016 10:18 AM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:

> These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
> though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
> policy? Or am I just being too careful?
>

[AFMUG] Drilling into roof

[TJ Trout]

These days mounting a tripod on someone's roof makes me real nervous even
though I've done hundreds before. Does anyone have a no roof drilling
policy? Or am I just being too careful?