Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
No, and there is no EOL date that I’m aware of.

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> On Apr 23, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> 
> Has manufacturing stopped of the old 450-5ghz SM's ?
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 5:16 PM, George Skorup  
>> wrote:
>> The new 5GHz PMP450b SMs are shipping now. The 450b mid-gain is pretty much 
>> identical to the ePMP Force180. And 450b high-gain is an integrated dish 
>> like the Force200. But that's just 5GHz for now. There's still the 2.4 450 
>> which is the classic SM case. And the 3GHz weird-o half n half case. There's 
>> still lots of stock of regular 5GHz 450 SMs too.
>> 
>>> On 4/10/2018 2:21 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>> As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The 
>>> very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even 
>>> available in some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to 
>>> confirm.
>>> 
>>> Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well 
>>> beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from 
>>> products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support 
>>> what I would consider ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards 
>>> testing and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of the archives to 
>>> do interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I started a few days ago).  
>>>
>>> 
>>> I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of 
>>> radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying 
>>> any more or not.
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
 I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning totally 
 away from the old canopy style case. 
  
 That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic mount. 
  
 I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders. 
 That form factor is a dead end, right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>>
>>> 
>> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser 
Has manufacturing stopped of the old 450-5ghz SM's ?

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 5:16 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> The new 5GHz PMP450b SMs are shipping now. The 450b mid-gain is pretty
> much identical to the ePMP Force180. And 450b high-gain is an integrated
> dish like the Force200. But that's just 5GHz for now. There's still the 2.4
> 450 which is the classic SM case. And the 3GHz weird-o half n half case.
> There's still lots of stock of regular 5GHz 450 SMs too.
>
> On 4/10/2018 2:21 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The
> very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even
> available in some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to
> confirm.
>
> Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well
> beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from
> products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support what I
> would consider ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards testing
> and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of the archives to do
> interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I started a few days ago).
>
>
> I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of
> radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying
> any more or not.
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning
>> totally away from the old canopy style case.
>>
>> That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic
>> mount.
>>
>> I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.
>> That form factor is a dead end, right?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> 
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-10 Thread George Skorup 
The new 5GHz PMP450b SMs are shipping now. The 450b mid-gain is pretty 
much identical to the ePMP Force180. And 450b high-gain is an integrated 
dish like the Force200. But that's just 5GHz for now. There's still the 
2.4 450 which is the classic SM case. And the 3GHz weird-o half n half 
case. There's still lots of stock of regular 5GHz 450 SMs too.


On 4/10/2018 2:21 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  
The very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're 
even available in some bands yet. Someone who buys this stuff will 
need to confirm.


Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is 
well beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes 
from products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support 
what I would consider ancient radios.  As a result I still do 
backwards testing and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of 
the archives to do interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I 
started a few days ago).


I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of 
radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're 
deploying any more or not.


On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning
totally away from the old canopy style case.
That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip
basic mount.
I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.
That form factor is a dead end, right?




--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-10 Thread Steve Jones 
this, there is no shame in forcing obsolescence. Part of the deciding
factors in finally killing old stuff is how much it costs to keep it going.
If you keep it cheap, it stays cheap and we keep doing it, putting you in
this same position after this next 500 is gone.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Make enough to make it worth your while. Then start increasing the price
> to discourage repeat abusers.
>
> -bp
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Sigh to do another run or not.
>> I gotta do 500 pcs to make it worth doing.
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:21 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case
>>
>> As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The
>> very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even
>> available in some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to
>> confirm.
>>
>> Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well
>> beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from
>> products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support what I
>> would consider ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards testing
>> and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of the archives to do
>> interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I started a few days
>> ago).
>>
>> I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of
>> radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying
>> any more or not.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning
>>> totally away from the old canopy style case.
>>>
>>> That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic
>>> mount.
>>>
>>> I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.
>>> That form factor is a dead end, right?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux>  <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-10 Thread Bill Prince 
Make enough to make it worth your while. Then start increasing the price to
discourage repeat abusers.

-bp

--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Sigh to do another run or not.
> I gotta do 500 pcs to make it worth doing.
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:21 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case
>
> As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The
> very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even
> available in some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to
> confirm.
>
> Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well
> beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from
> products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support what I
> would consider ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards testing
> and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of the archives to do
> interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I started a few days
> ago).
>
> I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of
> radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying
> any more or not.
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning
>> totally away from the old canopy style case.
>>
>> That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic
>> mount.
>>
>> I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.
>> That form factor is a dead end, right?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>  <http://facebook.com/packetflux>
>   <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-10 Thread Chuck McCown 
Sigh to do another run or not.  
I gotta do 500 pcs to make it worth doing.  

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:21 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The very 
latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even available in 
some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to confirm.

Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well 
beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from products 
which are being used to power and/or otherwise support what I would consider 
ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards testing and occasionally end 
up digging an old radio out of the archives to do interoperability testing (see 
the 320 thread I started a few days ago).  

I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of radios in 
that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying any more or not.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning totally 
away from the old canopy style case.  

  That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic mount.  

  I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.  
  That form factor is a dead end, right?




-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium legacy case

2018-04-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) 
As far as I know, cambium is still shipping radios with that mount.  The
very latest radios are a different style, but I'm not sure they're even
available in some bands yet.  Someone who buys this stuff will need to
confirm.

Also, keep in mind that customers like to hold onto gear until it is well
beyond obsolete.   A not insignificant chunk of my business comes from
products which are being used to power and/or otherwise support what I
would consider ancient radios.   As a result I still do backwards testing
and occasionally end up digging an old radio out of the archives to do
interoperability testing (see the 320 thread I started a few days ago).

I know that the WISP I am involved with still has a healthy number of
radios in that form factor in place.   I'm not sure if they're deploying
any more or not.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I am pretty sure I was told or heard that Cambium is transitioning totally
> away from the old canopy style case.
>
> That is why I have stopped to building my little plastic clip basic
> mount.
>
> I sent out EOL to distributors but I continue to get orders.
> That form factor is a dead end, right?
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com