Sound Gone on Suspend --- Any fix?

[yochaigal]

Hi all... I know that there's no fix right now for the sound gone on suspend
problem...  but I really need to suspend my phone as the battery runs out
really fast otherwise.  
I disabled the X screensaver (annoying!) and suspend, but haven't found
anything besides that workaround.

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Great Experience

[SCarlson]

Hello Everyone, 

 I'm happy to say I just received my Freerunner in the mail! I popped my SIM
card in, and it instantly registered to my AT&T network. Full bars. Clean
calls (no echos) and SMS messaging works great! This was with the software
out of the box. We will see how things are working when I'm done flashing
the new images! 

Great Job Guys! 

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Re: OpenMoko & ATT plans (Semi OT)

[Rodney Myers]

On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Eli wrote:


On Wednesday 27 August 2008 09:15:24 pm Rodney Myers wrote:

I'm anxiously waiting for my phone (Thanks NYC), and for my contract
with verizon to finally expire next month.

When I switch to ATT, only GSM provider that has decent coverage in  
my
area, I was wondering what plans this groups uses, to get the most  
out

of the phone?

Basic phone service, SMS/text messages, and I like the GPS feature.


GPS does not require a SIM; in fact, only the phone features do.   
I'm using

mine as a PDA without a SIM at the moment.


How does the gps show the maps?

For some reason, I thought that some form of data plan was required.


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Enter PIN again...NOT!

[forestmountain]

Om2008.8
How do I get the Enter PIN code dialog window to reappear. If I by accident
hit Cancel the dialog is gone and doesn't reappear. Only if I reboot that
is!

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Re: OM_GIT_BRANCH for Om2008.8-update

[Florian Hackenberger]

On Thursday 04 September 2008, Holger Freyther wrote:
> org.openmoko.asu.stable. The PR differs from .dev to .stable... this
> also applies to dropbear. We set DISTRO_TYPE to release in that
> branch and then had to go back to debug and we had to bump the PR for
> that.

Thanks! Meanwhile I found out that the reason for my problem (qtopia not 
loading the recompiled addressboot) was in fact the bug I reported 
here:
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1959

Thanks for clearing up the sitation with the git branch!

Cheers,
Florian

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Re: Any experiences with power hungry USB devices?

[Eli]

On Friday 29 August 2008 11:17:20 pm Michael Shiloh wrote:
> I'm working on documenting various aspects of our USB port.
>
> We believe that the FreeRunner USB port should be capable of delivering
> the standard USB high current of 500mA. We also believe that we respond
> properly to USB negotiation of this current, up from the minimum of 100mA.
>
> I suddenly remembered that someone posted about using a USB keyboard
> that didn't work due to high current. However, the FreeRunner should be
> able to provide exactly as much current as a desktop PC, which I assume
> works with this keyboard.

I have a USB keyboard (EMPREX 5139U) which, with the 2007.2 (I think), the 
LEDs would not light up, but I could use it on the console (and not in X, but 
due to other things).  It works fine with my PC, and with the FR now that I'm 
running Debian (though it doesn't keep the FR from dimming the screen).

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Re: Qtopia 4.3.3

[Jim Morris]

Paul Buede wrote:

> if I notice anything wierd there I will report back.  Anyone tried
> bluetooth headset with this new version to see if the files that were
> not there in 4.3.2 are there now?  I can try tomorrow if nobody else has
> yet.
> 

You can pair with a bluetooth headset, but no one has managed to get the audio 
to work, on any of 
the distributions.

The solution (if there is one) will be the same I suspect for all the dists, 
including Qtopia.

Check out the bluetooth related wiki entries for what has been done so far.

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Re: [2008.8/testing] where is pand?

[Vasco Névoa]

This is now being discussed in the support list.
pand has been removed, dbus support is in place.

Vasco Névoa wrote:
> Am I the only one to find that "pand" (the Personal Area Network daemon) 
> is missing and that it is no longer possible to establish a bluetooth 
> network connection with OM2008.8?...
>
> Vasco Névoa wrote:
>   
>> Up-to-date 2008.8/update with "testing" feeds here.
>> I can't find the "pand" to establish a bluetooth network connection.
>> Can anyone tell me which package installs it?
>> Thx.
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Re: Cpoying image to internal flash

[Eli]

On Sunday 31 August 2008 08:54:47 am William Kenworthy wrote:
> I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable.  Before
> I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card,
> is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself?

You may be able to adapt the technique I used for moving Debian from the uSD 
card into flash: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner/MovingToFlash

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Re: QTopia full screen handwriting on OM2008?

[Neil Brown]

On Monday September 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> According to Trolltech's documentation (
> http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/inputmethods-description.html), QTopia
> supports handwriting recognition.
> 
> Is there some way to get handwriting recognition to work on the OM 2008
> distribution?
> 
> I don't want to start a discussion about the pros and cons of virtual
> keyboards, but I've been happy with the 'handwriting' recognition on my Sony
> Ericsson P910i, and just not having a keyboard covering half the screen
> would be nice.

I'm working on it whether I'll ever finish is uncertain though :-)

What I currently have is a little "scribble pad" application with
handwriting recognition built in, so if you tap somewhere you can
start drawing letters and digits and they are added to the scribble
pad page as text.

   git://neil.brown.name/scribble/

This is largely just to test and experiment with handwriting
recognition.

I'm in the process of re-writing the recognition code so that it
(hopefully) makes fewer mistakes.  It currently gets confused between
l (drawn like L) and e, has trouble recognising 8 and v, and various
other little issues.  But I find it usable.

Then I'll put the recogniser into a program that grabs all touchscreen
events and feeds them back as either key strokes or stylus events.

My initial plan is that:
  - a tap goes straight through as a mouse click
  - a stroke is interpreted as a written symbol
  - a tap-and-drag (like you can do in a notebook's touchpad) becomes 
mouse movement
  - a vertical stroke in the right 1/3 of the screen becomes a
scroll-wheel event.

I don't know how the tap-and-drag will feel - it might be too
frustrating.

Eventually (if I get that far) I'd like to have a little widget in the
illume status bar to allow selection of abc/123/stroke.  But that will
be much later.

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Re: Building and testing asu with MokoMakeFile and qemu

[Nicola Mfb]

I rebuilded all from scratch and now i found uImage-2.6.24., so
make flash-qemu-local run successfull, howewer when i finally run make
run-qemu, u-boot loads the kernel and returns to it's main menu.

I'm not expert on u-boot, howewer i added -serial stdio to qemu, it gives:

U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (Sep  4 2008 - 17:27:20)

I2C:   ready
DRAM:  128 MB
NAND:  64 MiB
Found Environment offset in OOB..
Video: 640x480x8 31kHz 59Hz

NAND read: device 0 offset 0x244000, size 0x5000

Reading data from 0x248e00 -- 100% complete.
 20480 bytes read: OK
USB:   S3C2410 USB Deviced
In:serial
Out:   serial
Err:   serial
neo_lcd_rst_switch: LCD reset.
jbt6k74_command: Display on.
neo_vib_switch: Buzz, buzz.
neo_vib_switch: Vibrator stopped.
neo_bl_switch: LCD Backlight now on.
GTA01Bv4 # boot
## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 3010 ...
   Image Name:   Openmoko/2.6.24+git1+a1e97c61125
   Created:  2008-09-04  13:37:58 UTC
   Image Type:   ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
   Data Size:1894664 Bytes =  1.8 MB
   Load Address: 30008000
   Entry Point:  30008000
   Verifying Checksum ... OK
   Loading Kernel Image ... OK
OK
ERROR: image overwritten - must RESET the board to recover.
neo_gsm_switch: GSM disabled.

wath can i do now?

   Nicola


On 9/3/08, Nicola Mfb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm working an ubuntu hh to build and test asu.
> I downloaded
> http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile
> changed OM_GIT_BRANCH in org.openmoko.asu.stable
>
> after that i did make setup, make setup-machine-neo and make
> openmoko-qtopia-x11-image.
> The image was build successfull after several hours, but when i try to do
> make flash-qemu-local i get an error saying
> that is not possible to ls files in
> build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/uImage-2.6.*-om-gta01.bin
>
> What do i miss?
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Re: OpenMoko & ATT plans (Semi OT)

[Eli]

On Wednesday 27 August 2008 09:15:24 pm Rodney Myers wrote:
> I'm anxiously waiting for my phone (Thanks NYC), and for my contract
> with verizon to finally expire next month.
>
> When I switch to ATT, only GSM provider that has decent coverage in my
> area, I was wondering what plans this groups uses, to get the most out
> of the phone?
>
> Basic phone service, SMS/text messages, and I like the GPS feature.

GPS does not require a SIM; in fact, only the phone features do.  I'm using 
mine as a PDA without a SIM at the moment.

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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[Vinc Duran]

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thomas Bertani wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2008/9/4 dorje <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> >
> > Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >  > Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But
> not
> >  > Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.
> >
> >
> > Are you sure? and so what is the sync mode aviable in the qtopia fr
> menu?Yes.
>
> I am quite sure.
>
> The 'Synchronization' app in Qtopia 4 uses 'Sync Agent' to sync with
> Microsoft Outlook. It is not compatible with Qtopia Desktop from Qtopia 2.
>
>
> http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qtopiadesktop/over-desktop-synchronization-1.html
>
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Hi Lorn,
Very cool. I'm going to try syncing with Outlook. Can you direct me to an
article/faq/thread that is intended for end users?
I'm using  4.3.3-snapshot  2008/9/2 on my FreeRunner. I'm using Vista with
Outlook 2007. I'd happily switch to an older version of Outlook if I had
to.
Thanks for your time,
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Re: Openmoko Images

[Rod Whitby]

Kyle Bassett wrote:
> Is there a reason why I can't find the ipkg utility on any of these images?
> 
> I am using
> http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/Openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080430-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2
> 
> from automated.it , because all the builds on OM
> are down...

As far as I know, ScaredyCat who runs automated.it is missing in action,
and the images there have not been updated in months.

You really need to update your distribution.

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

[Michael Shiloh]

Fox Mulder wrote:
> I updated the wiki instructions with my working zhone-session file as an
> example.
> 

Thank you very much!

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Qtopia 4.3.3

[Paul Buede]

So I flashed this one today, I used
qtopia-4.3.3-snapshot-09012242-gta02-flash.tgz.

I followed an earlier post to turn my speaker volume back up to 127 so I
can hear.  Are the various values in the file
"/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state", documented anywhere? 
Turning the value up helps me hear but its got a buzz I wonder if I can
tweak out.

Interestingly, I used to notice I got fewer bars with 4.3.2, and the
reception didn't seem quite as good as with ASU.  Now, reception still
seems slightly worse, but oddly, it has full bars, that never decrease,
at least while walking around the house, where there is usually a fair
amount of variation in how many bars show.  So that seems to be broken
or looking at the wrong thing, can anyone confirm?

The SMS fix seems to work sort of, used to be when I got a voice mail I
would get a text from AT&T with some weird characters, now I get a text
that looks like this:

--
Stop

From: 2804
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008 22:00:16
--

I am not sure this helps me more than a text with strange characters,
but it is at least still unique enough looking that I will know what it
means.

I haven't done any testing involving the power management or anything,
if I notice anything wierd there I will report back.  Anyone tried
bluetooth headset with this new version to see if the files that were
not there in 4.3.2 are there now?  I can try tomorrow if nobody else has
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Re: usb mass media storage

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Where did you get that kernel image? I haven't been able to find it
| anywhere. Is there any other way to get those commands?

Any recent kernel package should have these modules.

Word of warning though, USB Mass Storage is block based protocol, it
means that if you have the filesystem you are exposing there mounted on
Freerunner side as well, filesystem actions like update directories,
which blocks are free etc will conflict between the two mounts and "less
than good experience will result" :-O

So to play this game you need to ensure you umount the filesystem on the
shared storage from Freerunner first and I guess mount it back afterwards.

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Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip

[roguemoko]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:48 +1000 schrieb
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>   
>> How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had 
>> some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up 
>> are being troublesome.
>> 
>
> This is 99% the problem of the Zhone UI. I have hardly any resources to
> push this further -- and even if I could, it would need to be actually
> designed from scratch rather than hacked together as it is now.
>
> I'm afraid we have to wait someone coming up with a solid UI on top of
> this framework -- at least the lower layers we now can rely on.
>   

Your faith in the framework at least sounds positive :) ... I guess I'm 
waiting for the merge then, which I understand is some way off.

It's looking like I'll be needing to tri-boot at this stage ... qtopia 
as phone, om2008 for testing and fso for dev. At least I'll be occupied :)

Thanks for the info.

Sarton

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

[Fox Mulder]

I updated the wiki instructions with my working zhone-session file as an
example.

Michael Shiloh wrote:
> Fox Mulder wrote:
>> Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
>> and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
>> Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
>> and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
> 
> 
> Since I don't yet have Debian installed, could you please check and 
> correct as necessary my instructions at
> 
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_replace_the_matchbox_window_manager_with_the_xfce_window_manager.3F
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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

[Sven Bretfeld]

Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> /media/card/ and ~/Documents/

Ok. ~/Documents/ works. I tried it before, since this is quite
obvious. But it didn't work at that time. I think one has to restart
the Xserver before the files get scanned.

Thanks

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Re: German for Qtopia

[Sven Bretfeld]

Richy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> cp the en_EN directory to _en_EN,
> mv en_EN to de_DE
> ln de_De to en_EN
> replace de_DE/words.dwag with:
>
> http://www.file-upload.net/download-1088244/words.dwag.html

Wow. It's working.

Thanks

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

[Fox Mulder]

This is my current zhone-session file

--
#!/bin/sh

#zhone &
exec startxfce4 &
matchbox-keyboard-toggle &
#exec matchbox-window-manager -use_titlebar yes
exec xfwm4
--

Now the matchbox keyboard works and xvkbd is also useable when i change
the matchbox-keyboard-toggle script to invoke this virtual keyboard.
Only "problem" is that now some windows are bigger than the screen and i
have to move them to see all of it because they can't be resized.
But most other windows now can be resized to my liking. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Marcel wrote:
> What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce 
> this... :/
> 
> -Marcel
> 
> Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder:
>> I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all
>> windows. When i set the keyboard window to "always on top" it gets over
>> all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances.
>> And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as
>> matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :)
>>
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
>>
>> Fox Mulder wrote:
>>> Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
>>> and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
>>> Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
>>> and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
>>>
>>> Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
>>> all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
>>> type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
>>> again. :/
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>  Rainer
>>>
>>> Christian Adams wrote:
 moin,
 you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to
 open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a
 -geometry x++ to tel it where to appear on the
 screen.

 (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry
 480x210+0+430 &)

 regards, morlac

 Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
> start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i
> got one
> big problem.
> Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
> more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
> But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after
> key
> press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
> attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all
> with
> xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
> Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
> maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
> I still have the "matchbox-keyboard-toggle &" in the zhone-session
> file
> before starting xfwm.
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> Marcel wrote:
>> Moin,
>>
>> I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-
>> wm on
>> debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-
>> session only
>> prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.
>>
>> Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/
>> how do I need
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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

[doron]

maybe the upgrade change your /etc/enlightenment/default_profile 
configuration ?


- doron



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> illume-config-illume can be found in the "testing" repository
>> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/
>> 
>
> I fear I have not explained myself very well.
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume*
> non longer exists. It used to, but now I can't find it.
>
> illume-keyboard* still exists, so I'm going to try reinstalling them.
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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

[Lorn Potter]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Anyway, from where have you got this information?
> 
> From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
> player. I think it's called "try and error" in english.

/media/card/ and ~/Documents/

Use the Storage.conf file to add other directories to scan.

And it is documented:
http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/syscust-docstorage.html

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Re: Openmoko Images

[Kyle Bassett]

Is there a reason why I can't find the ipkg utility on any of these images?

I am using
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/Openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080430-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

from automated.it, because all the builds on OM are down...

-Kyle

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Jim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Warren Baird wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Jim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately that is not the case, I've been playing with BT
> > headsets for weeks, and have not got a
> > peep out of one (I've tried several), I have not even got a2dp
> > working either.
> >
> >
> > Based on the comments for http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1656 it
> > sounds like some people have managed to get BT audio working with a2dp,
> > albeit with some signal strength issues.   This is on my list of things
> > to try, but I haven't gotten around to it yet...
> >
> > Warren
> >
>
> I tried exactly the same thing, but was unable to get anything to play
> using asound.
>
> However the A2DP uses a different path, it sends system PCM into the audio
> chip and then routes it
> to the PCM out which goes directly to the BT chip. It is nice to know they
> heard something, however
> there are other issues with this path that are hinted at on the wolfson
> site,there maybe a clocking
> issue between the i2c input and the pcm output, at least that seems true
> for the reverse direction.
>
> BT headset to/from GSM is yet another path, and should not involve the CPU
> at all (other than for
> setup).
>
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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[Lorn Potter]

Thomas Bertani wrote:
> 
> 
> 2008/9/4 dorje <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> 
> Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>  > Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not
>  > Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.
> 
> 
> Are you sure? and so what is the sync mode aviable in the qtopia fr menu?Yes.

I am quite sure.

The 'Synchronization' app in Qtopia 4 uses 'Sync Agent' to sync with 
Microsoft Outlook. It is not compatible with Qtopia Desktop from Qtopia 2.
 
http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qtopiadesktop/over-desktop-synchronization-1.html

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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

[Sven Bretfeld]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
>> you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
>> several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.
>>
>
> No, I hadn't. I think that has nothing to do with Qtopia. I think you
> should try to reformat your card.
>
> Where have you installed Qtopia? I did it in my card.

I have installed Qtopia on the Flash while my microSD runs Debian. The
latter is more important to me than Qtopia. Below is my output of 'ls
-l /media/card'. Maybe it gives somebody a hint what's wrong here. I
cannot make anything out of it.

Greetings

Sven

,
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| ls: /media/card/?▒��▒�?! Input/output error
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| ls: /media/card/#0c0c.0�: Input/output error
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Newbie question about OM2008 emulation

[Pupino]

Hi all,
i'm new to the openmoko comunity and i was trying to test the software under
qemu.
I've managed to compile the emulator using the mokomakefile and i'm also be
able to boot, but after boot the software (wich i think is qtopia) tells me
"no network" and doesn't respond to any input.
I've read all the wiki article about qemu (all i've found, at least) but
didn't get and hint on how to proced from there.
Can someone point me to the right wiki/readme/whatever?
And if the software is really qtopia how can i run the OM 2008 image
instead?

thanks in advance.
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Re: Post problems/bugs related questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please

[Kosa]

There are tons of duplicated messages on the same list too.
I just  the same message from Mickey 6 times. But it happens
all the time with a lot of posts.

I wpuld be nice if someone could do something about it.

Cheers.

Kosa

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> for simple questions relating to bugs with recent upgrades, or the
> likes.
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Re: getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Michael Shiloh]

Detructor wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:
> 
> When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
> "Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"
> 
> sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.
> 
> When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this error.
> 
> My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1
> 
> I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the www
> (only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).

Moving to support

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getting error while trying to flash my neo freerunner

[Detructor]

Hey guys,

I hope you can help me, I've the following problem:

When I try to flash the neo on my laptop I get a
"Starting download: [dfu_download error -71"

sometimes the download starts and then I get the error.

When I get the neo in June, I could flash it without getting this error.

My operating system: Ubuntu 8.04.1

I ask here, because I can't find anything about this error in the www
(only 3 entries in google and none of it helps).

hope for help
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Re: usb mass media storage

[Søren Kristiansen]

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:22:38 +0200
> "Adrien de Sentenac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (ADS) wrote:
> 
>>2008/9/2 Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> rmmod g_ether
>>> modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1
>>
>>
>>which kernel/distribution do you use ?
>>it seems I have neither of these modules with om2008.8 (with updates).
>>
> 
> oh, sorry, i could have thought of this.. :) ASU
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uname -a
> Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Aug 26 08:33:29 CST 2008 armv4tl
> unknown
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep kernel | grep image
> kernel-image-2.6.24 -
> 2:2.6.24+git75965+cb3cc53a76c7f1f7c827d048db7a849e77071515-r1.01 -
> 
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Where did you get that kernel image? I haven't been able to find it
anywhere. Is there any other way to get those commands?
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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

[Valerio Valerio]

Hi Joachim,

2008/9/4 Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi Valerio,
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 27.08.2008, 12:33 +0100 schrieb Valerio Valerio:
> > a ReMoko package with ability to send events through gestures (Paul's
> > daemon - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures) is available now in:
> > http://code.google.com/p/remoko/downloads/list
>
> I have had a look into packaging ReMoko for Debian. Here are some issues
> that you might want to look into, to make ReMoko easily packagable.
>
>  * The setup.py could be improved. Have a look at [1], how I did this
> for zhone's setup.py.
>  * It would be great if you could provide "official" source tarballs of
> your release. setup.py helps you with the sdist command, but you need to
> tell it what files it should include. Again, you can have a look at how
> Jan Lübbe did that for zhone at [2].
>  * Your configuration module just looks for "settings.cfg", without
> specifying a path. Something like sys.env['HOME'] + "settings.cfg" might
> be more sensible.

The ReMoko version on the svn is my work version, I know that I have
relative path and also the setup.py is incomplete, and some other glitches
remain there. Until 16 Set I can't take a look on that :(
>
>
>  * The server source looks good, "make dist" produces a sensible
> tarball. You might want to change the product name and version number in
> configure.ac though.

Thanks, I miss that one.

>
>  * What exactly is the server for? It seems it listens on a tcp socket
> for commands, which is connected by the UI to send the events over
> bluetooth. Why don't you bind to the 127.0.0.1 IP address? Why don't you
> use dbus for that?

The server handles all the HID communications, is like a bridge for the
client UI, I use a unix socket because the BlueZ devs recommend it to me,
besides a dbus interface will be slower, because in the mouse profile I have
to send every small movement (pixel by pixel).
>
>
>
> I think it would be great to have a remoko Debian package, but there is
> some work left. Are you going to continue remoko development, now that
> GSoC is over?

Yes, I already made more code, but right now I don't have time and
concentration until I finish my last exam (16 Set)  :(

Thanks for the tips.
I will get in touch with you after 16 Set.

Best regards,

-- 
Valério Valério

http://www.valeriovalerio.org

>
>
> Greetings and thanks,
> Joachim
>
> [1]
> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=blobdiff;f=setup.py;h=3203be394e70201eea5c865cba0f5922777ce237;hp=1b0e1c1b56f87651303533358e5af2a3c17a0af0;hb=ff4c5c02ee9fea489f7a37a6d4bd9e8475f76cc3;hpb=b9e9d771dd3c7d8554308f480db246f3d4a9f98d
> [2]
> http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcfe28591bf4d40fcbd8b1bd73125f8cd5bff154;hp=509e786b03579e34085219ac70ba88d7f1827ed5
>
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Re: German for Qtopia

[Minh Ha Duong]

Hi Richy,

  Thanks for your contribution to the wiki. It just needed fixing
'NEO' to 'Neo' and 'Linux Box' to 'Linux box'.

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Re: xfwm instead of matchbox-wm on debian?

[Marcel]

What does your zhone-session look like exactly? I cannot seem to reproduce 
this... :/

-Marcel

Am Mittwoch 03 September 2008 23:02:48 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> I found a solution. With xfwm4 i now can change settings for all
> windows. When i set the keyboard window to "always on top" it gets over
> all other windows. Now it is useable within all circumstances.
> And the good part is that xfwm4 uses about the same amout of ram as
> matchbox-wm but is much more comfortable. :)
>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> Fox Mulder wrote:
> > Ok it seems it does work after restart. I only tried to kill matchbox-wm
> > and start xfwm4 (and matchbox-keyboard-toggle) but then it doesn't work.
> > Now i tried to replace the wm within the zhone-session file and rebooted
> > and the keyboard comes when pressing the key. :)
> >
> > Now i only have the problem left that the keyboard window isn't on top
> > all the time and some system windows are above the keyboard. So i can't
> > type anything into these windows because i can't get the keyboard on top
> > again. :/
> >
> > Ciao,
> >  Rainer
> >
> > Christian Adams wrote:
> >> moin,
> >> you could edit /usr/bin/matchbox-keyboard-toggle (simpley python) to
> >> open/close xvkbd instead matchbox-keyboard. you can also give xvkbd a
> >> -geometry x++ to tel it where to appear on the
> >> screen.
> >>
> >> (like i do in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup xvkbd -xdm -compact -geometry
> >> 480x210+0+430 &)
> >>
> >> regards, morlac
> >>
> >> Am 03.09.2008 um 21:01 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> >>> You have to replace the matchbox-wm line in zhone-session by xfwm4 to
> >>> start the xfce-wm. I also experiment with it at the moment but i
> >>> got one
> >>> big problem.
> >>> Everything looks fine after start and xfwm is running. Now it is much
> >>> more to my liking with window resize and move functions.
> >>> But the matchbox keyboard isn't working anymore (won't pop up after
> >>> key
> >>> press) which is a big problem. I think the keyboard is only properly
> >>> attached to matchbox-wm and not xfwm. Maybe it doesn't work at all
> >>> with
> >>> xfwm, but this is the point where i'm stuck at.
> >>> Does anybody know what i have to do to regain the matchbox keyboard or
> >>> maybe some other keyboard with xfwm when pressing the aux button?
> >>> I still have the "matchbox-keyboard-toggle &" in the zhone-session
> >>> file
> >>> before starting xfwm.
> >>> Ciao,
> >>>  Rainer
> >>>
> >>> Marcel wrote:
>  Moin,
> 
>  I was recently trying to get xfwm running instead of the matchbox-
>  wm on
>  debian, but simply removing the matchbox-wm line from zhone-
>  session only
>  prevents xfce from starting at all, xorg comes up though.
> 
>  Where's matchbox-window-manager woven in additionally? Or where/
>  how do I need
>  to start xfwm4, isn't it loaded by startxfce4?
> 
>  -Marcel
> >>
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> >> Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)>++;X(+);R*;tv->+;b++(+++);DI++;
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Re: GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - now with Gestures

[Joachim Breitner]

Hi Valerio,

Am Mittwoch, den 27.08.2008, 12:33 +0100 schrieb Valerio Valerio:
> a ReMoko package with ability to send events through gestures (Paul's
> daemon - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures) is available now in:
> http://code.google.com/p/remoko/downloads/list

I have had a look into packaging ReMoko for Debian. Here are some issues
that you might want to look into, to make ReMoko easily packagable.

 * The setup.py could be improved. Have a look at [1], how I did this
for zhone’s setup.py. 
 * It would be great if you could provide “official” source tarballs of
your release. setup.py helps you with the sdist command, but you need to
tell it what files it should include. Again, you can have a look at how
Jan Lübbe did that for zhone at [2].
 * Your configuration module just looks for “settings.cfg”, without
specifying a path. Something like sys.env['HOME'] + "settings.cfg" might
be more sensible.
 * The server source looks good, “make dist” produces a sensible
tarball. You might want to change the product name and version number in
configure.ac though.
 * What exactly is the server for? It seems it listens on a tcp socket
for commands, which is connected by the UI to send the events over
bluetooth. Why don’t you bind to the 127.0.0.1 IP address? Why don’t you
use dbus for that?

I think it would be great to have a remoko Debian package, but there is
some work left. Are you going to continue remoko development, now that
GSoC is over? 

Greetings and thanks,
Joachim

[1] 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=blobdiff;f=setup.py;h=3203be394e70201eea5c865cba0f5922777ce237;hp=1b0e1c1b56f87651303533358e5af2a3c17a0af0;hb=ff4c5c02ee9fea489f7a37a6d4bd9e8475f76cc3;hpb=b9e9d771dd3c7d8554308f480db246f3d4a9f98d
[2] 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcfe28591bf4d40fcbd8b1bd73125f8cd5bff154;hp=509e786b03579e34085219ac70ba88d7f1827ed5


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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard [SOLVED]

[flamma]

>>
>> illume-config-illume can be found in the "testing" repository
>> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/
>
> I fear I have not explained myself very well.
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume*
> non longer exists. It used to, but now I can't find it.
>
> illume-keyboard* still exists, so I'm going to try reinstalling them.
>
>

Reinstalling all illume-keyboard* has worked. Not sure about what happened.


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

[flamma]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
 Anyway, from where have you got this information?
>>
>>>From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
>> player. I think it's called "try and error" in english.
>
> I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
> you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
> several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.
>

No, I hadn't. I think that has nothing to do with Qtopia. I think you
should try to reformat your card.

Where have you installed Qtopia? I did it in my card.


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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

[flamma]

>
> illume-config-illume can be found in the "testing" repository
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/

I fear I have not explained myself very well.
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume*
non longer exists. It used to, but now I can't find it.

illume-keyboard* still exists, so I'm going to try reinstalling them.


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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

[Adrien de Sentenac]

2008/9/4 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> What is worst. I have tried to reinstall illume-config-illume, but the
> package is missing, I don't know where it is reubicated.
>


illume-config-illume can be found in the "testing" repository
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[Olivier Berger]

Hi.

There is a lot of duplication between the support and community lists
for simple questions relating to bugs with recent upgrades, or the
likes.

Please, care to subscribe and (read first, then) post to the most
appropriate list when you'd like to get some help on fixing bugs,
misbehaviours and the likes.

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

[Joachim Breitner]

Hi again,

Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 17:31 +0200 schrieb Joachim Breitner:
> Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 19:01 +0200 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza:
> > I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based
> > gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download.
> 
> I was about to package accelgel for Debian. I exported the latest svn,
> tried to generate a clean source tarball with
> $ autogen.sh && make dist
> and tried to use the resulting .tar.gz to build the package.
> Unfortunately, it seems that the generated tarball is not complete, for
> example it misses ./accelneo/include/accelneo.h
> 
> Would you do me a favour and provide an “official” source tarball of
> your release, preferably one created by “make dist”? Then I’ll continue
> with packaging it.

While I’m at it, here are some packaging related suggestions:

 * Check for the existence of your dependencies in configure. E.g. I
could run configure without having libbluetooth2-dev installed, only to
have “make” fail.
 * Please install everything using automake, including configuration
etc. This avoids duplication and diversion between accelges_svn.bb, the
Debian packaging and other distros.
 * Do not install files with an ending “.sh” in the path. This is
against Debian policy, and ugly as well :-)
 * Do you really need the various -neo2.sh, -neo3.sh wrappers? Why not
have one wrapper that reads cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware?
 * You install the acceleration data into /etc in your bb recipe. This
is uncommon for binary data. If it’s data that is going to be modified
by programs while running, it should go to /var/lib. Or better, put
distributed files in /usr/share and create additional data in /var/lib. 

I guess that’s quite a large list. But I think it’s what turn a private
project into a proper program.

BTW, what are you plans now that GSOC is over? Are you continuing the
development of accelges?

Greetings,
Joachim


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Re: Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

[Olivier Berger]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I had installed the 08/30 image. Today I have updated from repositories
> the phone (community and zecke's repo). Later, I added amgstrong
> repository and installed pidgin.
>
> What I find now is that the illume keyboard doesn't show. I can only see
> the dictionary button. I can't write with it.
>
> What is worst. I have tried to reinstall illume-config-illume, but the
> package is missing, I don't know where it is reubicated.
>
> Now, the only option I have is to reenable qtopia keyboard :(
>
> Any help?

See current thread in support list about broken bits of
illume/enlightenment in ASU stable updates. 

Btw, why post to community what is
relevant to support ?

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-September/002532.html

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

[Johny Tenfinger]

Install patched version of neod from
http://westhoffs-welt.de/blog/my_first_openmoko_application.html , it
will help.

dos

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 14:32, Christian Anke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Samstag 16 August 2008 14:02:30 schrideb Fox Mulder:
>> I installed the same uboot version yesterday and my event2 doesn't work
>> like with the old uboot version.
>> I don't think uboot has something to do with the problem if the sensors
>> work or not.
>>
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
>>
>> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Christian Anke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Am Samstag 16 August 2008 12:36:40 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
>> >>> btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test
>> >>> gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool!
>> >>>
>> >>> r
>> >>
>> >> what version of uboot?
>> >
>> > Now i have 1.3.2+gitr68+650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512
>> > from here:
>> > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/ (the file
>> > name is 1.3.1 for some reason)
>> >
>> > r
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>
> i played a little with the processes.
>
> when i stop the xserver then starting the hexdump to /dev/inout/event2 it 
> will output something.
> while its dumping, i started the xserver and from the point when the 
> "welcome" sound
> was played, the dump stops ouputting anything. same procedure will reproduce
> it (stop xserver, restart hexdump!, start xserver, dump stops output when 
> plays "welcome").
>
> mybe any of these processes
> root  2095  0.0  0.5   2572   700 pts/1S14:21   0:00 xinit 
> /etc/X11/Xsession --
> /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -roo
> root  2099  4.2  4.2   8716  5356 pts/1S<   14:21   0:16  \_ 
> /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285
> -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -root-ppm /usr/share/pixmap
> root  2100  0.0  0.5   2676   648 pts/1S14:21   0:00  \_ /bin/sh 
> /etc/X11/Xsession
> root  2108  0.0  0.4   2680   536 pts/1S14:21   0:00  \_ 
> run-parts
> /etc/X11/Xsession.d
> root  2120 29.7  3.0  22848  3792 pts/1Rl   14:21   1:52  \_ 
> neod
> root  2121  3.1 10.0  33700 12644 pts/1S14:21   0:11  
> \_ openmoko-today
> root  2122  0.6  7.4  29740  9412 pts/1Sl   14:21   0:02  
> \_ phone-kit
> root  2123  0.1  2.5   7740  3188 pts/1S14:21   0:00  
> \_ matchbox-window-
> manager -use_titlebar yes -use_desktop_mode decorated -theme
> root  2124  0.8  5.7  20248  7248 pts/1S14:21   0:03  
> \_ matchbox-panel-2 --
> start-applets systray,startup --end-applets openmoko-pane
>
> is cause this.
>
> hope this wil help anybody to fix this issue.
>
> im using openmoko-devel 20080812.
>
>  Carci
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Re: No GSM 2008.08 testing

[Dylan Reilly]

I discovered the issue. Using the command logread I noticed that
libficgta01vendor.so was compiled for the wrong Qt version and failing to
load. That is, of course, bad. I had at one point messed around with the
package providing that library (qtopia-phone-x11-phonevendor-ficgta01vendor)
and for some reason updates to it were failing to overwrite the old one. A
force remove and reninstall did the trick.

The strange thing is that this happened *again* today after another upgrade.
Maybe there are some dependancy issues with this package?

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Erin Yueh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ilja O. wrote:
> > I've received Freerunner and istalled testing daily build today.
> >
> > Same error here.
> >
> > Also, it's nice that no package depends on
> > qtopia-phone-x11-composer-emailcomposer,
> > qtopia-phone-x11-composer-genericcomposer,
> > qtopia-phone-x11-composer-mmscomposer,
> > qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-genericviewer,
> > qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-smilviewer. At least not qtopia mail and dialer.
> > It was truly linux-way quest to discover theese application (caller and
> > mailer) need in those libraries.
> >
> >
> > 
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>
> did you update any package? or just flash with a testing daily build?
> this image
> '
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2
> '?
>
> also, you can use ssh to Freerunner and type 'logread', it would display
> all log information. Try to find 'AT+COPS=0' command, and check what CME
> error code you get.
>
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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

[Joachim Breitner]

Hi Paul,

Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 19:01 +0200 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza:
> I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based
> gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download.

I was about to package accelgel for Debian. I exported the latest svn,
tried to generate a clean source tarball with
$ autogen.sh && make dist
and tried to use the resulting .tar.gz to build the package.
Unfortunately, it seems that the generated tarball is not complete, for
example it misses ./accelneo/include/accelneo.h

Would you do me a favour and provide an “official” source tarball of
your release, preferably one created by “make dist”? Then I’ll continue
with packaging it.

Thanks,
Joachim

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Om2008.08: shy illume's keyboard

[flamma]

I had installed the 08/30 image. Today I have updated from repositories
the phone (community and zecke's repo). Later, I added amgstrong
repository and installed pidgin.

What I find now is that the illume keyboard doesn't show. I can only see
the dictionary button. I can't write with it.

What is worst. I have tried to reinstall illume-config-illume, but the
package is missing, I don't know where it is reubicated.

Now, the only option I have is to reenable qtopia keyboard :(

Any help?


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

[Sven Bretfeld]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>>> Anyway, from where have you got this information?
>
>>From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
> player. I think it's called "try and error" in english.

I see. But have you also got these strange Input/output errors when
you display the contents of this folder in a shell? Only two of
several files (or maybe folders?) are readable on my system.

Thanks for the info. I see the principle now. I was thinking Trolltech
must have supplied some more information on their system.

Greetings

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Re: German for Qtopia

[Richy]

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I changed the wiki, so everyone should be able to compile his language
on his own.
It's my first time editing a wiki, so maybe someone with more
experience has a look on it? Just in case I broke some rule I didn't
know of.

It would be nice to know the config file of the keyboard so we don't
have to link directories but just change configs instead.
This would allow to set up some easy "opkg install keyboard-lang"

Just ideas, as I'm trying to contribute as much as I can.
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Re: German for Qtopia

[Thomas Bertani]

2008/9/4 Richy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> see there:
>
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_change_the_dictionary_used_by_the_predictive_keyboards_.3F
>
> I think the words.dawg that comes with the tool is italian.
>


thx :D
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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[Thomas Bertani]

2008/9/4 dorje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not
> > Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.
>

Are you sure? and so what is the sync mode aviable in the qtopia fr menu?
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Re: [2008.08] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

[Holger Freyther]

On Thursday 04 September 2008 11:15:08 Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> on my old Nokia 9210 (8 years old, rest in peace) and on my new
> Freerunner running Qtopia, I had the choice to reveal or to hide my
> phone number to my correspondent.
> It was just an option in a configuration panel (I cannot remember where
> it was in Qtopia, but I worked well)
>
> Now on 2008.08 I cannot found the same kind of option... does someone
> know how I can configure this using a terminal ?

You should be able to install an app called phonesettings or calloptions... 
try that.

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Re: German for Qtopia

[Richy]

see there:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_change_the_dictionary_used_by_the_predictive_keyboards_.3F

I think the words.dawg that comes with the tool is italian.

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Re: How to start X as non root user without using display manager

[ritz]

Hello

On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 16:44 -0700, C R McClenaghan wrote:
> I'm hoping to boot into a non privileged user to use the phone.
> Does anyone know how to start X as a non root user without using a  
> display manager. My attempts to simply add --chuid  option  
> to start-stop-daemon result in the error message - "X: user not  
> authorized to run the X server, aborting". If I login using a usb  
probably, this maybe of interest
http://airlied.livejournal.com/59521.html


> keyboard an issue startxfce from the shell there isn't any problem.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Chris
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Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

[shawnzier]

On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:04:38AM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Thanks for posting the fixed one, I pushed it into the examples
> directory.
Cool. Glad you could find it useful.

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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[dorje]

Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not 
> Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.

Thank you! :)


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Re: OM_GIT_BRANCH for Om2008.8-update

[Holger Freyther]

On Wednesday 03 September 2008 23:10:29 Florian Hackenberger wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Can someone from the OM buildhost team please tell me which git branch
> is used to build the update packages which are enabled by default on
> the image which can be downloaded here:
>
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/
>
> It's not org.openmoko.asu.dev (the versions for qtopia-phone-x11
> differ).

org.openmoko.asu.stable. The PR differs from .dev to .stable... this also 
applies to dropbear. We set DISTRO_TYPE to release in that branch and then 
had to go back to debug and we had to bump the PR for that.


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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[Lorn Potter]

dorje wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I installed Qtopia Desktop but I cannot connect to the freerunner.
> The message is:
> 
> "Could not connect to the Qtopia device".
> 
> I can connect to my freerunner via ssh and I put the correct
> IP address on Qtopia Desktop settings.
> 
> Is Qtopia Desktop supposed to work with the freerunner?

Qtopia Desktop is for Qtopia 2. and probably works with Opie. But not 
Qtopia 4 as on the Freerunner.



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Re: German for Qtopia

[Thomas Bertani]

2008/9/4 Richy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hey Sven,
>
> as far as word prediction is concerned:
>
> cp the en_EN directory to _en_EN,
> mv en_EN to de_DE
> ln de_De to en_EN
> replace de_DE/words.dwag with:
>
> http://www.file-upload.net/download-1088244/words.dwag.html
>
> restart x-server
>
> done.
> Hopefully.^^
>
> don't know how to get "äöüß" on the keyboard though..
>
> If instructions on how to compile your own words.dwag  ask for it,
> tomorrow I should be in better mood for it ;)
>

:O Is aviable also an Italian words file?
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Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[Thomas Bertani]

2008/9/4 dorje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi all!
>
> I installed Qtopia Desktop but I cannot connect to the freerunner.
> The message is:
>
> "Could not connect to the Qtopia device".
>
> I can connect to my freerunner via ssh and I put the correct
> IP address on Qtopia Desktop settings.
>
> Is Qtopia Desktop supposed to work with the freerunner?
>
> Thanks... :)
>
>
I have the same problem
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[qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?

[dorje]

Hi all!

I installed Qtopia Desktop but I cannot connect to the freerunner.
The message is:

"Could not connect to the Qtopia device".

I can connect to my freerunner via ssh and I put the correct
IP address on Qtopia Desktop settings.

Is Qtopia Desktop supposed to work with the freerunner?

Thanks... :)


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Re: Several stacks on one card

[flamma]

> Something I noticed is that these partitions have to be in the beginning
> of the SD card.
> I wasn't able to boot from partitions starting at the 7GB mark.

I expect not to have done it bad, since I partitioned :
1 boot partition 1
2 rootfs partition 1
3 boot partition 2
4 rootfs partition 2

Anyway, we're still at time for repartitioning.

> Anyway, I used this u-boot menu on the NAND:
[...]

That's usefule! Thank you, I will use that to get an idea of what I have
to write.


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Re: Several stacks on one card

[flamma]

>
> Everything is explained on the wiki (partitionning, u-boot entries, ...)
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD
>
> Hope this helps
>

Sure. Sorry for asking something that is on the wiki. First time I read
this page I was a bit confused.


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Re: Qtopia on Freerunner: Firsts steps of a newbee

[flamma]

>> Anyway, from where have you got this information?

>From the fact that only files in /media/card are shown in the media
player. I think it's called "try and error" in english.


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

[Christian Adams]

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i allready use the openmoko-panel-plugin (and extendet it a bit) but  
it doesn't provide options to run scripts on certain battery-levels  
(shut down fr when battery crtitical for example) yet. i am planning  
to extend the openmoko-panel-plugin that way but till i (or someone  
else) does so ..

i wanted to use xfce-battery-plugin cause i think (not really checked  
yet) it has a smaller mem-footprint ..

maybe i get time to implement my ideas on upcoming weekend ..

ciao,
morlac (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Morlac)

p.s. i would also extend om-panel-plugin to provide a window to  
choose charging-mode

Am 04.09.2008 um 11:58 schrieb Fox Mulder:

> Why don't you just use the selfmade openmoko-panel-plugin which also
> displays the battery status?
>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> Christian Adams wrote:
>> moinmoin
>>
>> did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
>> when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is
>> at 0% - what definitly is not the case.
>>
>> it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?
>>
>> regards, morlac

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Re: gamepad for openmoko

[Al Johnson]

On Wednesday 03 September 2008, Arne Zachlod wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> i have found a gamepad for the openmoko device:
>
> http://www.pearl.de/a-HZ1400-4046.shtml?vid=917
>
> is there a way to connect this via bluetooth to the phone?
>
> ciao, Arne

Assuming it behaves as a bluetooth HID, which seems likely, it should connect 
in the same way as bluetooth keyboards. Until recently this could be as 
simple as:
hidd --search
Unfortunately hidd is deprecated, and no longer supplied in the recent 
packages. The current method involves dbus, with examples using dbus-send 
given at:
http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/InputDevices
I _think_ someone recently posted a script to make this a little easier.

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Re: [2008.08] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

[arne anka]

> Now on 2008.08 I cannot found the same kind of option... does someone
> know how I can configure this using a terminal ?

this is usually achieved by prefixing the number you dial with one of  
these *foo# codes -- ask your provider or search the net for a list of  
those.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

[arne anka]

> it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?

the plugin does -- fso does not.
the plugin relies on apmd which is not used in fso and, as known, produces  
issues when running.
since it is far bigger than the corresponding battery symbol, you're  
better off with the om-panel-plugin.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

[Fox Mulder]

Why don't you just use the selfmade openmoko-panel-plugin which also
displays the battery status?

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Adams wrote:
> moinmoin
> 
> did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
> when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is  
> at 0% - what definitly is not the case.
> 
> it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?
> 
> regards, morlac
> 
> 
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[Qtopia 4.3.3] Changing profiles makes FR crash

[yann . sladek]

Hi,

I'm running the latest Qtopia update (9/2/08) and I've got a problem changing 
profiles
When I'm using general profile and want to switch to silent profile, the FR UI 
crashes and I have to reboot it (it's a GTA02v5).
Is someone having the same problem ? 
How I can I get logs about that ?

Regards,

Yann


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] xfce-battery-plugin

[Christian Adams]

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moinmoin

did someone manage to get the xfce-battery-plugin working properly?
when i include it in the panel i always get a warning my battery is  
at 0% - what definitly is not the case.

it seems to me the battery-plugin doesn't handle apm right?

regards, morlac


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Re: Time and Timezone issues...

[arne anka]

> down side of symlinks ...

and java (at least sun's java) will refuse to use it.
for reasons unbeknownst to man, java insist on having /etc/localtime as  
real file, not a symlink -- though i don't think sun's java will run in  
foreseeable future on the fr, other implementations or programs may show  
the same "feature".


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[2008.08] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

[Xavier Cremaschi]

Hi folks,

on my old Nokia 9210 (8 years old, rest in peace) and on my new 
Freerunner running Qtopia, I had the choice to reveal or to hide my 
phone number to my correspondent.
It was just an option in a configuration panel (I cannot remember where 
it was in Qtopia, but I worked well)

Now on 2008.08 I cannot found the same kind of option... does someone 
know how I can configure this using a terminal ?

Best regards,
Xavier.


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Re: Time and Timezone issues...

[Harald Koenig]

On Sep 04, Rod Whitby wrote:

> Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> >> better not set TZ but do once (once after every update/upgrade?!):
> >>
> >>cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Rome /etc/localtime
> 
> Even better to make that a symlink, then if your city ever changes it's
> daylight savings rule, then you will automatically get the update.

down side of symlinks (and hard links too, like used in some PC linux distro):  

if some other script or tool does a 

 cp some-holiday-timezone-file /etc/localtime

then you'll trash the original home zone timezone file:-(


Harald
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Re: Stable Distro Recommendation for Business trip

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 12:48 +1000 schrieb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> How's the core functionality looking? Milestone 2 looked great but I had 
> some real issues doing more than one thing without something locking up 
> are being troublesome.

This is 99% the problem of the Zhone UI. I have hardly any resources to
push this further -- and even if I could, it would need to be actually
designed from scratch rather than hacked together as it is now.

I'm afraid we have to wait someone coming up with a solid UI on top of
this framework -- at least the lower layers we now can rely on.

:M:


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Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Thanks for posting the fixed one, I pushed it into the examples
directory.

Cheers,

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Re: No GSM 2008.08 testing

[Erin Yueh]

Ilja O. wrote:
> I've received Freerunner and istalled testing daily build today.
> 
> Same error here.
> 
> Also, it's nice that no package depends on 
> qtopia-phone-x11-composer-emailcomposer, 
> qtopia-phone-x11-composer-genericcomposer, 
> qtopia-phone-x11-composer-mmscomposer, 
> qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-genericviewer, 
> qtopia-phone-x11-viewer-smilviewer. At least not qtopia mail and dialer. 
> It was truly linux-way quest to discover theese application (caller and 
> mailer) need in those libraries.
> 
> 
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did you update any package? or just flash with a testing daily build?
this image 
'http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080904.rootfs.jffs2'?

also, you can use ssh to Freerunner and type 'logread', it would display 
all log information. Try to find 'AT+COPS=0' command, and check what CME 
error code you get.

Cheers,
Erin

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Re: Several stacks on one card

[Sander van Grieken]

> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:04 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello, I am going to buy a new microSD card. I want to install Debian,
>> Qtopia and whatever other image appeals me.
>>
>> Is it possible to make a dual-boot in the card?
>>
>> Something like first a selecting if you boot the flash or the card, and
>> later wich partition in the card you boot.
>>
>> Have I explained me?
>
> Everything is explained on the wiki (partitionning, u-boot entries, ...)
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD

I have created 2 ext2 partitions on the SD for both ASU and FSO, and modified 
the uboot
menu to boot their kernels directly from ext2 (so no need for a separate FAT 
partition).

Something I noticed is that these partitions have to be in the beginning of the 
SD card.
I wasn't able to boot from partitions starting at the 7GB mark.

This reminds me of the old BIOS limitations on PCs and I didn't expect that to 
be the
case on the freerunner :)

I don't know the exact bootable boundary, but with two partitions of 256M at the
beginning of the SD card I can boot into both ext2 filesystems.

Anyway, I used this u-boot menu on the NAND:

menu_1=
  Boot from microSD (FSO/partition 1):
  setenv bootargs
${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=5
${mtdparts} ro;
  mmcinit;
  ext2load mmc MMC_NUM:1 0x3200 /boot/uImage;
  bootm 0x3200

menu_2=
  Boot from microSD (OpenMoko/partition 2):
  setenv bootargs
${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
${mtdparts} ro;
  mmcinit;
  ext2load mmc MMC_NUM:2 0x3200 /boot/uImage;
  bootm 0x3200


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Re: gcc for Native compilation on Openmoko

[yves mahe]

Masoom Alam wrote:
> I got the following errors:
> 
> Nothing to be done
> An error ocurred, return value: 4.
> Collected errors:
> Cannot find package make.
> Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
> Cannot find package gcc-symlinks.
> Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
> Cannot find package cpp.
> Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
> 
> 
> Any clue?

Did you try 'opkg update' ?

You need to have the good feeds in /etc/opkg depending on your software 
version.

See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Package_management
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Installer#How_to_add_a_Repository_.3F

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Re: gcc for Native compilation on Openmoko

[Masoom Alam]

I got the following errors:

Nothing to be done
An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Collected errors:
Cannot find package make.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
Cannot find package gcc-symlinks.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'
Cannot find package cpp.
Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update'


Any clue?

Regards,
MM Alam

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:20 PM, yves mahe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Masoom Alam wrote:
> > Hi Every one,
> >
> > I am a new bie playing arround openmoko. I was wondering that no gcc is
> > available `on native openmoko platform. Can any body point out that is
> > there has been some efforts in this regard, and point me out a link.
> >
> By default, it's not the function of a mobile phone to compile programs.
>  So a lot of current Linux utilities have been dropped to fit in the
> Flash memory.
>
> To install gcc :
>
> opkg install gcc
>
> Maybe you will need to install also :
>
> opkg install make gcc-symlinks cpp
>
> Regards
> Yves Mahe
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Re: Several stacks on one card

[gromez]

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:04 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, I am going to buy a new microSD card. I want to install Debian,
> Qtopia and whatever other image appeals me.
>
> Is it possible to make a dual-boot in the card?
>
> Something like first a selecting if you boot the flash or the card, and
> later wich partition in the card you boot.
>
> Have I explained me?

Everything is explained on the wiki (partitionning, u-boot entries, ...)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD

Hope this helps

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Re: gcc for Native compilation on Openmoko

[yves mahe]

Masoom Alam wrote:
> Hi Every one,
> 
> I am a new bie playing arround openmoko. I was wondering that no gcc is 
> available `on native openmoko platform. Can any body point out that is 
> there has been some efforts in this regard, and point me out a link.
> 
By default, it's not the function of a mobile phone to compile programs. 
  So a lot of current Linux utilities have been dropped to fit in the 
Flash memory.

To install gcc :

opkg install gcc

Maybe you will need to install also :

opkg install make gcc-symlinks cpp

Regards
Yves Mahe


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