Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-09-30 Thread Kristopher Johnson
John Hasler wrote:
> 
> Mario O.de Menezes writes:
> > That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes from
> > year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1 or
> > 2 days till it changes.
> 
> I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
> daylight savings time in a tropical country?
> --
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will.
> Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind.
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Why should anyone bother with daylight savings time in ANY
country?

- Kris


cyclades install / kernel config

1999-09-30 Thread zdrysdal
Hi

i am about to install the cyclades cyclom-y driver but after reading the
README file it refers to the install program pointing to the
/usr/src/linux directory.  I have installed slink with kernel 2.0.36 from
the cheapbytes CD and I appear to have no /usr/src/linux directory.  After
running the install script I have to configure the kernel with the make
config  command executed from the /usr/src/linux...

My concern is that i do not think the install script will work because i do
not have the kernel files in the /usr/src/linux directory.  What shall I
do?



Thanx




Re: make-kpkg questions

1999-09-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
You should be able to achieve what you want by editing
/usr/share/kernel-package/rules and the various preinst, postinst,
prerm and postrm scripts.  Also see 'man kernel-pkg.conf' for
a way to put vmlinuz in /boot instead of /.

It sounds like it may be easier to let it install per the defaults and
then run a script which renames the files (and edits lilo.conf).


On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:24:10PM +0200, peter karlsson wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Just learned to use make-kpkg, *but*, I want to do some things differently:
> 
> 1. How do I tell it not to create a /vmlinuz symlink in the root directory?
>I want my root directory clean (i.e no files at all)
>(Also, it complained when there wasn't a /vmlinuz already, thought I
>was doing a new install)
> 
> 2. How do I tell it to use another name for my kernels image file (I've
>never really liked "vmlinuz" anyway)?
> 
> -- 
> \\//
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>   - and God said: nohup make World >& World.log &
> 
> 
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Re: Install with floppies and NFS

1999-09-30 Thread Jordan Howarth

Seth> Are you using rawrite or dd, or just a straight copy? A straight copy
Seth> will never work, but a rawrite (from dos) or dd (under a unix) will do
Seth> the job nicely. :)

Sorry! Read the #$%! manual, right? :)

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netscape error

1999-09-30 Thread Bek Oberin
I've just installed a brand new system with the stable dist,
and when I install Netscape I get a weird error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> netscape
ERROR: /usr/lib/netscape/45/navigator/plugins/libnullplugin.so: undefined 
symbol: FE_GetToplevelWidget
Cant load plugin /usr/lib/netscape/45/navigator/plugins/libnullplugin.so. 
Ignored.
Warning:
Name: bookmarkQuickfile
Class: XfeCascade
Creating an active drop site with no drop proc.

Error: Cannot perform malloc


I tried installing 4.07 instead and get the same error, with just
the directory name changed to the 407 directory.

I've tried deleting my ~/.netscape/ directory in case my config
was broken but that didn't help.

Any ideas?


bekj

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Re: Linux databases: which are best?

1999-09-30 Thread William T Wilson
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm interested in peoples' experiences with the different databases
> available for Linux.  Probably the most important factors for me are
> stability, followed by ease of use and power.

You can't go wrong with MySQL.  It's a little quirky in places, but it's
very solid and *fast* and very popular.  The API (which is almost exactly
the same as mSQL's) is straightforward and easy to write code for, there's
integrated PHP support, and the commandline client works well.  However,
it handles data in strange and exciting ways.  If you have a lot of people
that expect it to act like Oracle you need a different product.


Linux databases: which are best?

1999-09-30 Thread debuser
I'm interested in peoples' experiences with the different databases
available for Linux.  Probably the most important factors for me are
stability, followed by ease of use and power.

Thanks,

Gerry


Problems with lilo?

1999-09-30 Thread RESET
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jason Murray
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jason:: I think this problem is with lilo. I am riding the
Jason:: bleeding edge upgrading roughly every night. Well
Jason:: yesterday when I upgraded there was an update for
Jason:: lilo. Now I can't boot from the HD. It tells me this:

Jason:: LILO boot:
Jason:: Lodaing Linux
Jason:: Uncompressing Linux...

Jason:: crc error
Jason:: -- system halted


I had the same error, but solved it compiling a new kernel using
`make bzlilo'.

-- 

RESET


Re: make-kpkg questions

1999-09-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Sep, peter karlsson wrote about "make-kpkg questions"
> Hi!
> 
> Just learned to use make-kpkg, *but*, I want to do some things differently:
> 
> 1. How do I tell it not to create a /vmlinuz symlink in the root directory?
>I want my root directory clean (i.e no files at all)
>(Also, it complained when there wasn't a /vmlinuz already, thought I
>was doing a new install)

See the man page for kernel-pkg.conf.  You need to edit/create
/etc/kernel-pkg.conf and add a line of 

image_in_boot := True 

> 
> 2. How do I tell it to use another name for my kernels image file (I've
>never really liked "vmlinuz" anyway)?
> 

I don't think is possible unless you patch the rules and image.postinst
scripts in /usr/lib/kernel-package to be a little more robust about how
they create the final kernel image in /boot.

You could file a wishlist bug against kernel-package asking for this
option.


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Re: pine wont compile

1999-09-30 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Hi
> 
> pine doesntcompile on my machine... i dont know whats wrong, anyway, here's 
> the
> output (the last 10 lines or so)

I'm sorry, but I don't seem to see the problem.  What makes you think that
pine wasn't built?

-- 
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"There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the
universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein


re: Unstable package list at ftp.debian.org is bad

1999-09-30 Thread Todd Suess
I fixed this problem by doing the apt-get update as normal, editing the 
offending file to
fix the optionnal lines, and then running dpkg --merge-avail package file>
just don't redo apt-get update until the archive is fixed or you will have 
to perform the above

steps again.

Todd




At 12:47 PM 9/30/1999 +0200, Marcus Johansson wrote:


> ( two occurrences of optionnal changed to optional) and rerunning
> apt-get update, the file is downloaded again and I am where I started.

Try:

# apt-get check

That might fix the problem, not sure.

/Marcus




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Re: Device busy

1999-09-30 Thread Mark Buda
> "Sami" == Sami Dalouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Sami> Trying a fuser /dev/cdrom usually reports nothing.

Perhaps try "fuser -m /dev/cdrom"?
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wingz ate my file!

1999-09-30 Thread Richard E. Hawkins

Fortunately, I'd already printed it out (midterm grades).  Wingz 
whirled, clicked, and rattled the hard drive half to death (but so does 
anything on  this machine), then segfaulted.  It now has an error 
reading the file.

Does anyone know how to recover these?

I'd hate to have to type it all in again . . .

rick

-- 



Re: pptp for linux - where can it be

1999-09-30 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
With a newer version of ppp (>=2.3.6, such as the one in potato) you can 
specify a pty
connection. Using this with ssh will allow you to do this. Look through the 
readme and
the man page for this newer version to see how to do this.

"Alex V. Toropov" wrote:

> Hi, all
>
> I remember that some where I read about  organizing
> pptp link between to linux-box over Internet.
> Can some one  figure me where can iI obtain this info ?

--
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Re: Mathematica

1999-09-30 Thread Tom Allard

ELF is the binary format, not a library:

% file /bin/bash
/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically 
linked (uses shared libs), stripped

rgds-- TA  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I don't speak for the Federal Reserve Board, it doesn't speak for me.




make-kpkg questions

1999-09-30 Thread peter karlsson
Hi!

Just learned to use make-kpkg, *but*, I want to do some things differently:

1. How do I tell it not to create a /vmlinuz symlink in the root directory?
   I want my root directory clean (i.e no files at all)
   (Also, it complained when there wasn't a /vmlinuz already, thought I
   was doing a new install)

2. How do I tell it to use another name for my kernels image file (I've
   never really liked "vmlinuz" anyway)?

-- 
\\//
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  - and God said: nohup make World >& World.log &


Re: vi problems

1999-09-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Thursday, September 30, 1999, 2:02:55 PM, Dean wrote:
> Anybody know how to get around this problem?

If it is the problem I think it is...

dpkg -r nvi
apt-get install vim vim-rt
*or*
apt-get install elvis

Some editors (joe is one) have a problem when they exit on mucking up the
terminal and other assorted things of that nature.  It has been debated
whether or not it was the editor or the libraries that caused the problem.
Personally, I rarely saw the joe bug but since switching to vim I've not seen
it at all.

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Re: Mathematica

1999-09-30 Thread Joerg Plate
> And just to bolster your confidence, I ran Mathematica just
> fine on my Debian slink system for quite some time.
It works with potato, too. It is not a libc.so.6 or libc.so.5
problem, because everything is statically linked.

-- 
"I'm working on it."   "There should be more math. This could be mathier."


vi problems

1999-09-30 Thread Dean Allen Provins
Hello:

I use 'vi' exclusively, and until upgrading to Debian 2.1, never
experienced any problems with 'vi' exits.  It always exited on the same line
at which it was started.  I believe at the time, I was using 'elvis' as 'vi'.
For the record, I use 'xterm's under OpenLook, and that is were I observe 
the problem.

Now 'vi' (or rather 'nvi', as that is what is in /etc/alternatives) exits
at seemingly arbitrary locations on the screen.  Consequently, I have
to 'clear' the screen to find the prompt before carrying on with other
work.

Anybody know how to get around this problem?

Regards,

Dean


Weird network (TCP i think) Error

1999-09-30 Thread Felipe Alvarez Harnecker

Hi, i'm getting trouble with my e-mail when it got an M$ document
attached to it, the transfer just hung. The extrange thing is that if a try 
to ftp my mailbox it happen exactly as before.

I' dont know what the M$ stuff has to do with it, it's very puzzling.

I'm running ipmasquerade an yes, i configured "Always defragmemnt" in
the kernel.

Please help!!

Thanks.

-- 
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Potenciado por Ql/Linux  http://www.qlsoft.cl
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Re: where is /proc/asound?

1999-09-30 Thread Brad
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  I've just installed slink on my laptop and I'm trying to use the
> ALSA. Do you need to do any special configureation for ALSA? I've just
> got a vanilla system and a custom kernel ( still 2.0.36 though) and
> ALSA just doesn't work. I don't appear to have a /proc/asound
> directory and I can't find out how to get one.

Did you install the alsa-source, libalsa0, and alsautils packages?

Do you realize that the latest version of alsa (0.4.1) only supports
kernel 2.2 and up (possibly some 2.1, but why use them?)? You didn't
mention which version of alsa you're trying to use. Does the version you
have include /proc/asound support, or is that only a feature of later
versions?

Did you properly build and install the alsa modules as detailed in the
alsa documentation?


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Re: trivial egcc question...

1999-09-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Lupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jonathan> This is more of a egcc question than a Debian question, but
Jonathan> after looking through the man page, I didn't find an answer
Jonathan> so here we go...

When dealing with GNU software, info is usually a better source than
man.

Jonathan> Is there a way to set an environment variable with the args
Jonathan> I want for the egcc line?  For example, I like STL, and am
Jonathan> always typing `egcc -Wall -lstdc++ foo.cpp`.  It seems to me
Jonathan> (from my DOS experience ) that I should be able to do
Jonathan> something like:

bash:~>$ export cl=-Wall -lstdc++ 
bash:~>$ egcc foo.cpp

If you really want to compile from the interactive command line (and
not through a script or makefile, as almost everybody does), you can
make an alias:

alias egcc='/usr/bin/egcc -Wall -lstdc++'

and stick in into .bashrc.

-- 
Ian Zimmerman
Lightbinders, Inc.
2325 3rd Street #324, San Francisco, California 94107


Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ben Collins  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 03:18:26PM +0100, Paul M Sargent wrote:
>> I have the +:: line at the bottom of my passwd file, and all the yp
>> tools work fine (e.g. 'ypmatch pauls passwd' brings up the right response.)
>
>Have you tried adding nis to the /etc/nsswitch.conf fields?

If you have +:: at the end of /etc/passwd, you must use "compat"
in nsswitch.conf. If you don't have that plus stuff in /etc/passwd,
use "nis files" in nsswitch.conf.

"compat" knows about plussed users. The other nsswitch methods might
not. Imagine someone trying to login as "+" ...

Mike.
-- 
First things first, but not necessarily in that order.


pine wont compile

1999-09-30 Thread N.P. Puam
Hi

pine doesntcompile on my machine... i dont know whats wrong, anyway, here's the
output (the last 10 lines or so)

touch build-all
test -f pine/pine.c -a -f debian/rules
rm -rf debian/tmp
install -d debian/tmp/DEBIAN
cd debian/tmp && install -d usr/doc/pine/tech-notes
cp -p doc/tech-notes/*.html debian/tmp/usr/doc/pine/tech-notes
ln -s pine debian/tmp/usr/doc/pine-tech-notes
dpkg-gencontrol -ppine-tech-notes
cd debian/tmp && md5sum `find * -type f ! -regex "DEBIAN/.*"` >DEBIAN/md5sums
chown -R root.root debian/tmp
chmod -R go=rX debian/tmp
dpkg --build debian/tmp ..
dpkg-deb: building package `pine-tech-notes' in
`../pine-tech-notes_3.96M-2_all.deb'.
test -f pine/pine.c -a -f debian/rules
debian/rules binaryPine
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pine/pine-3.96M'
test -f pine/pine.c -a -f debian/rules
test root = "`whoami`"
rm -rf debian/tmp
install -d debian/tmp/DEBIAN debian/tmp/usr/lib/menu
cd debian/tmp && install -d usr/bin usr/man/man1 usr/doc/pine
cd debian && install -m 755 postinst postrm tmp/DEBIAN
cd debian && install -m 644 menu.pine tmp/usr/lib/menu/pine
install bin/pine debian/tmp/usr/bin
strip debian/tmp/usr/bin/pine
ln -s pine debian/tmp/usr/bin/pinef
cp -p doc/pine.1 debian/tmp/usr/man/man1
cp -p doc/mailcap.unx doc/brochure.txt debian/disclaimer \
 debian/BUGS.Debian debian/tmp/usr/doc/pine
cp -p debian/changelog debian/tmp/usr/doc/pine/changelog.Debian
gzip -9 debian/tmp/usr/doc/pine/changelog.Debian
cat -s debian/copyright CPYRIGHT > debian/tmp/usr/doc/pine/copyright
gzip -r9 debian/tmp/usr/man
dpkg-shlibdeps bin/pine
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/pine/pine-3.96M'


Bruno Van de Casteele
N.P. Puam[ICQ # CA957F]
Tune in at http://puam.cjb.net/


HPT366 Drivers / ATA66 Hard Drives

1999-09-30 Thread Robert Oneto
Hello,
I am a very new investigator of Linux.  Meaning that I have never used it
before and I am just now looking into loading the Linux operating system
onto my new computer system.  I am not a programmer, nor a developer
( yet! )but I am interested in loading the Debian GNU/Linux OS because I
think that it would be nice to be a part of this group of people working
together for a common good.  I am trying to stay away from the more
commercialized Lixus releases that I see at the computer stores.

My main concern is that my computer system has an ATA66 Hard Drive that uses
the HPT366 Device Drivers, and from what I have read so far this might cause
me some problems unless I can get a patch for Linux Kernel 2.2.10.  I have
thought about using the hard drive with an ATA33 device driver and trying to
load Debian's GNU/Linux with my hardware in this configuration and then
trying to get a newer Kernel.  Does anyone have any thoughts on my prospects
for getting GNU/Linux on my machine?

I realize that there may be many more hardware issues that will concern me,
but for starters I would like to hear what people think about this ATA66
issue.

Thank you for your help!
Sincerely,
Robert Oneto


pptp for linux - where can it be

1999-09-30 Thread Alex V. Toropov
Hi, all

I remember that some where I read about  organizing
pptp link between to linux-box over Internet.
Can some one  figure me where can iI obtain this info ?


trivial egcc question...

1999-09-30 Thread Jonathan Lupa
This is more of a egcc question than a Debian question, but after looking
through the man page, I didn't find an answer so here we go...

Is there a way to set an environment variable with the args I want for the
egcc line?

For example, I like STL, and am always typing `egcc -Wall -lstdc++ foo.cpp`.
It seems to me (from my DOS experience ) that I should be able to do
something like:

bash:~>$ export cl=-Wall -lstdc++
bash:~>$ egcc foo.cpp

Thanks all!

-Jonathan (who won't be seeing the answer to this until he gets home tonight
because he can't route out of Alter.net in Chicago.) =(


~
Jonathan Lupa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Mathematica

1999-09-30 Thread Gary Hennigan
William T Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Nathan Smith wrote:
> 
> > lab.  We're going to need to have Mathematica on the computers in the lab,
> > and according to the Wolfram web page Mathematica will run on any ELF 
> > Linux system, but it's my understanding that Debian is not ELF but glibc6.
>
> This is not a problem.  ELF is a format for executables.  It does not have
> anything to do with the C library version.  It's sort of like Texaco
> selling fuel.  You need to use it in a gasoline engine (as opposed to
> Diesel for example), but it doesn't matter if you have a '99 Corvette or a
> '78 Pinto. :}

And just to bolster your confidence, I ran Mathematica just fine on my
Debian slink system for quite some time.

Gary


Re: unstable && stable

1999-09-30 Thread Peter S Galbraith

andreas palsson wrote:

> Is it possible to have 4 partitions where one of them is Slink, the
> second Potato, the third Swap and last one /home?
> I see no technical difficulties for both slink and potato using the same
> swap-partition and the same /home-partition, or am I wrong?

No problem.  Used to do that to upgrade from one slackware
version to the next (reinstalling from scratch on another
partition).  Haven't done that to upgrade Debian!
 
> Besides that, can anyone give me an example of a lilo.conf of the above
> configuration?

Something like (Note I use SCSI, so `sd' instead of `hd', and remove
my `append' line):

# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/sda
#compact# faster, but won't work on all systems.
delay = 50
vga = normal# force sane state
ramdisk = 0 # paranoia setting
append="hdc=634,64,32 mem=128M aic7xxx=tag_info:{{24,24}}" 
# End LILO global section
#--
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /zImage-2.0.37-PD2.0.32-idle
  root = /dev/sdb1
  label = 2.0.37-full
  read-only # Non-UMSDOS filesystems should be mounted read-only for checking
# Linux bootable partition config ends
#--
image = /zImage-2.0.37
  root = /dev/sda1
  label = newdisk
  read-only # Non-UMSDOS filesystems should be mounted read-only for checking
# Linux bootable partition config ends
#--
# DOS bootable partition config begins
other = /dev/sda2
  label = win95
  table = /dev/sda
# DOS bootable partition config ends


Note: The kernel name could probably be the same, and to simplify
  running lilo, the name(s) you use should exist on both
  partitions you want to boot from (as lilo checks that the
  kernel exists even it you specified another patition).
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Why am I getting ? instead of apostrophe in Netscape?

1999-09-30 Thread Phillip Deackes
Recently I have noticed I am getting a question mark instead of an
apostrophe on web pages. The apostrophe works fine everywhere else (')

Any ideas what is wrong?


--
Phillip Deackes
Debian Linux (Potato) 


Re: Mathematica

1999-09-30 Thread William T Wilson
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Nathan Smith wrote:

> lab.  We're going to need to have Mathematica on the computers in the lab,
> and according to the Wolfram web page Mathematica will run on any ELF 
> Linux system, but it's my understanding that Debian is not ELF but glibc6.


This is not a problem.  ELF is a format for executables.  It does not have
anything to do with the C library version.  It's sort of like Texaco
selling fuel.  You need to use it in a gasoline engine (as opposed to
Diesel for example), but it doesn't matter if you have a '99 Corvette or a
'78 Pinto. :}



Re: How to filter this list?

1999-09-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Sep, Stefan Blum wrote about "How to filter this list?"
> Hi,
> 
> how can I filter the incoming stuff from this list by using ''elm''?
> My $HOME/.elm/filter-rules contains the following entries:
> 
> ...
> 
> if (from = "debian-user@lists.debian.org") then save 
> "/home/meru/blum/Mail/linux"
> if (sender = "debian-user@lists.debian.org") then save 
> "/home/meru/blum/Mail/linux"
> 
> ...
> 
> Because some of the mails to the lists are sent by using ``CC'', the
> mechanism does not work correctly. 
> 
> Is there a way out? I _have_to_ use elm and filter ;-(
> 

When I was using elm's filter I used

if (to contains "debian") then save ...

The 'to' should catch the To and Cc lines. Just curious, why do you
_have_to_ to use filter?  

-- 
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unstable && stable

1999-09-30 Thread andreas palsson
Hi.

Is it possible to have 4 partitions where one of them is Slink, the
second Potato, the third Swap and last one /home?
I see no technical difficulties for both slink and potato using the same
swap-partition and the same /home-partition, or am I wrong?

Besides that, can anyone give me an example of a lilo.conf of the above
configuration?

Regards...
-- 
andreas


Mathematica

1999-09-30 Thread Nathan Smith
Hello all,

We're (I'm) setting up a computer lab here at Univ. Texas at Tyler
(nevermind the address above), and I'd like to run Debian as the OS in the
lab.  We're going to need to have Mathematica on the computers in the lab,
and according to the Wolfram web page Mathematica will run on any ELF 
Linux system, but it's my understanding that Debian is not ELF but glibc6.
Is there a way to make this work?  Does anybody have Mathematica running
on a Debian system?  I have Debian on my machine here at work and would
like to not have to switch to Red Hat or something else since I'm already
somewhat familiar with what I have, but if it's not possible to run
Mathematica I'll have to - or if it's too much work I'll have to as well
since I have other duties.  Anyone able to answer my questions?

Thanks for your time,

Nate



Re: dselect unstable problem SOLVED

1999-09-30 Thread Jason Christensen
Editing the file to correct the spelling of optional for aleph-dev and aleph-doc
and then touching the file to match the others does not work if you want to
use dselect (for me at least). I was able to successfully upgrade my system
after editing and touching the file to correct the errors and then running 
apt-get
upgrade. dselect still barfs on me though, even after a successful upgrade with
apt-get.

Jason

>On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 05:55:00PM +, Adam Olejniczak wrote:
>> Oleg Krivosheev wrote:
>> 
>> > > Reading Package Lists... Error!
>> > > E: Malformed Priority line
>> > > E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
>> 
>> here is a problem
>> 
>> >
>> > > E: Problem with MergeList
>> > > /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i3

>> > >
>> > > 86_Packages
>> > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
>> > >
>> > > when i'm doing Update
>> > >
>> > > when I'm using stable version everything is working just fine
>> > >
>> > > any ideas ?
>> > >
>> > > thanks for help
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > > Adam Olejniczak
>> > >
>> >
>> > exactly the same problem today morning only the server is
>> > http://ftp1.us.debian.org
>> >
>> > any help is greatly appreciated
>> >
>> > Oleg
>> 
>> so solution is to edit file
>> ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
>> or what ever ftp server you use
>> 
>> and remove all the information about aleph
>> save the file go to dselect sjip update and go to select, install and so
on
>> and it works (for me at least :-)
>
>Or correct the spelling of "optionnal" to "optional" for aleph and
>aleph-doc.
>
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>


Re: dselect unstable problem SOLUTION v2

1999-09-30 Thread Adam Olejniczak
> > Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Release
> > Reading Package Lists... Error!
> > E: Malformed Priority line
> > E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)

so as i wrote before here is a problem
it's this that in aleph priotity is typed optionnal and should be optional
so to deal with it star dselect
starrd update and press ctrl-d before end of download

run text editor end edit file
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages

and replace optionnal with optional

then do fg with dselect it will finish it job, process packages lists

and you in home :-)

bye
adam


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-09-30 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On 30 Sep 1999, John Hasler wrote:

> Mario O.de Menezes writes:
> > That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes from
> > year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1 or
> > 2 days till it changes.
> 
> I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
> daylight savings time in a tropical country?

our government! and they haven't any plans for the future, that is, if I
would like to know the begin and end of the daylight saving in year 2005
I'll have to wait till approximately August/2005 when government will make 
the law :-(


[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
   http://www.revistalinux.com.br


Kernel question: From bootdisk to hard drive

1999-09-30 Thread David Kanter
I've got a custom bootdisk that works fine. I moved the kernel to my home 
directory using dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/david/vmlinuz. (I also used cat 
/dev/fd0 > /home/david/vmlinuz and it did the same thing.)

Everything is OK, except the file size of this new kernel looks like its the 
size of an unformatted disk, i.e. 1.47 Mb. The past kernel was about 350Kb, but 
had extraneous stuff.

I reran lilo and booted off the hard drive, and the new kernel works fine. 
Should the fact that this custom/slimmer kernel is larger in size than the 
stock Debian kernel (by about 4X) worry me?

Dave 


Re: dselect unstable problem SOLVED

1999-09-30 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 05:55:00PM +, Adam Olejniczak wrote:
> Oleg Krivosheev wrote:
> 
> > > Reading Package Lists... Error!
> > > E: Malformed Priority line
> > > E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
> 
> here is a problem
> 
> >
> > > E: Problem with MergeList
> > > /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i3
> > >
> > > 86_Packages
> > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> > >
> > > when i'm doing Update
> > >
> > > when I'm using stable version everything is working just fine
> > >
> > > any ideas ?
> > >
> > > thanks for help
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Adam Olejniczak
> > >
> >
> > exactly the same problem today morning only the server is
> > http://ftp1.us.debian.org
> >
> > any help is greatly appreciated
> >
> > Oleg
> 
> so solution is to edit file
> ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
> or what ever ftp server you use
> 
> and remove all the information about aleph
> save the file go to dselect sjip update and go to select, install and so on
> and it works (for me at least :-)

Or correct the spelling of "optionnal" to "optional" for aleph and
aleph-doc.

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How to filter this list?

1999-09-30 Thread Stefan Blum
Hi,

how can I filter the incoming stuff from this list by using ''elm''?
My $HOME/.elm/filter-rules contains the following entries:

...

if (from = "debian-user@lists.debian.org") then save 
"/home/meru/blum/Mail/linux"
if (sender = "debian-user@lists.debian.org") then save 
"/home/meru/blum/Mail/linux"

...

Because some of the mails to the lists are sent by using ``CC'', the
mechanism does not work correctly. 

Is there a way out? I _have_to_ use elm and filter ;-(

TIA,
  Stefan





nobody's shell

1999-09-30 Thread Tom Allard

I was just reading about the Securelinux Crack and saw that part of the 
crack involved getting a shell as "nobody".  See

  http://forums.hackpcweek.com/read.php3?num=1&id=479&thread=473

I checked my slink machine and, sure enough, "nobody" had /bin/sh as his
shell.  Is there ANY need for this at all?  Shouldn't nobody have /bin/false
as his shell?

rgds-- TA  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I don't speak for the Federal Reserve Board, it doesn't speak for me.




[OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-09-30 Thread John Hasler
Mario O.de Menezes writes:
> That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes from
> year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1 or
> 2 days till it changes.

I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
daylight savings time in a tropical country?
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Re: Exim re-writing help

1999-09-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Sep, David Kanter wrote about "Re: Exim re-writing help"
 Brian Servis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/30/99 11:10:57 AM >>>
> I also set the primary_hostname to my dynamic dns name so that the
> Message-Id gets set properly(look in the header of this mail).
> 
> Thanks. You explanation makes perfect sense and makes rewriting in exim much 
> easier than rewriting with smail.
> 
> But with you above statement, did you set primary_hostname = uname()? Or is 
> there some other way of setting the dynamic hostname?
> 

I have a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d that modifies/replaces my exim.conf
when I connect.  There are probably other/better ways to do it but it
works for me so I am sticking with it for now.

#!/bin/sh
# get the dns name of the dynamic ip
set name=`nslookup $PPP_LOCAL | grep Name | cut -c 10-`
# update exim config file 
sed -e s/--Name--/${name}/g /etc/exim.conf-up >! /etc/exim.conf

Then at the top of exim.conf-up I have the following,
 
primary_hostname = --Name--

I got this idea from the Dynamic-IP-Hacks mini-HOWTO.  I also do the
same type of thing with /etc/hosts and my cfingerd setup.

-- 
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-
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Ther is a bug in packages list !

1999-09-30 Thread Adam Olejniczak
hello all

there is a bug in unstable version of debian package list
its in apeth-dev and aleph-doc
package state is called optionnal should be optional

bye

adam


Re: dselect unstable problem SOLVED

1999-09-30 Thread Adam Olejniczak
Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

> > Reading Package Lists... Error!
> > E: Malformed Priority line
> > E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)

here is a problem

>
> > E: Problem with MergeList
> > /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i3
> >
> > 86_Packages
> > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> >
> > when i'm doing Update
> >
> > when I'm using stable version everything is working just fine
> >
> > any ideas ?
> >
> > thanks for help
> >
> > Regards
> > Adam Olejniczak
> >
>
> exactly the same problem today morning only the server is
> http://ftp1.us.debian.org
>
> any help is greatly appreciated
>
> Oleg

so solution is to edit file
ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
or what ever ftp server you use

and remove all the information about aleph
save the file go to dselect sjip update and go to select, install and so on
and it works (for me at least :-)

good luck

adam


Re: Reading compressed files in XEmacs

1999-09-30 Thread debuser


On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Johann Spies wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:
> 
> > On a somewhat related note : is it possible to view compressed (.gz) files
> > with pagers like more/less ? I think I remember a thread about this either
> > on this list or on some linux NG a while back except that I was paying
> > attention at that time!
> 
> zless, zmore
> 

Also "most" automatically handles both compressed and uncompressed files.

Gerry


Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 05:44:03PM +0100, Paul M Sargent wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:27:38PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, I misunderstood what you were trying to explain. The no password login
> > is an issue with the pam_unix.so (I though you were saying you couldn't
> > login at all with NIS). I already knew about this, and it will be fixed in
> > my next upload.
> 
> Ah, OK. Is there a way of reconfiguring to get around this, or is this a
> recompile issue?

Sorry, it's a recompile thing. Should be up in a day or two.

Ben


Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Paul M Sargent
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:27:38PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> 
> Ok, I misunderstood what you were trying to explain. The no password login
> is an issue with the pam_unix.so (I though you were saying you couldn't
> login at all with NIS). I already knew about this, and it will be fixed in
> my next upload.

Ah, OK. Is there a way of reconfiguring to get around this, or is this a
recompile issue?

Paul
--
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mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 04:07:01PM +0100, Paul M Sargent wrote:
> > That's incorrect, you can login with a password locally because it then
> > acts like a normal UNIX login. You HAVE to add nis to the nsswitch.conf
> > fields in order to use _any_ programs with NIS. This is not a PAM issue.
> 
> OK, now you're confusing me.
> 
> * I have no local users on this machine apart from root. 
> * I can login with users specified in the NIS database if that user has a
> password.
> * I can not login with a NIS user if that user has a blank password. 
> * If I give a user which is not in the NIS database I get a different
> authentication error message. (Cannot retrieve authentation info.)
> * finger  retrieves the correct information from the NIS database.
> 
> How can NIS not be working?

Ok, I misunderstood what you were trying to explain. The no password login
is an issue with the pam_unix.so (I though you were saying you couldn't
login at all with NIS). I already knew about this, and it will be fixed in
my next upload.

Ben


Re: PPP Host Configuration

1999-09-30 Thread Marc Mongeon
Ramana:

Read the PPP HOWTO at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.html
(or some other LDP mirror).  Chapter 26 has specific information on
setting up a PPP server.  Apache is the most common (only?) http
server for Linux.  Install that and start reading the manuals in
/usr/doc/apache.

Good luck.

Marc

--
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"It's such a fine line between clever and stupid."
   -- David St. Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel of "Spinal Tap"


>>> Ramana Tadepalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/30/99 10:29AM >>>
I cant get my Linux installation to behave like a server (http for a
start). Where should I begin?. How can I get it to run a dial-in server
to receive connects on the modem.
Please help
Ramana


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Re: Exim re-writing help

1999-09-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Sep, David Kanter wrote about "Exim re-writing help"
> I would like to rewrite my address with exim. (I only send outgoing mail to 
> the Internet; no local mail.) I've read the documentation, but am still a bit 
> confused on exactly how to set up the re-write. I would like [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] (i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to be re-written to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (either that or [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is easier to read).
> 
>>From what I've read, I should do something like:
> 
> *@@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] then all the flags

This would just give the same address as you started. 

> 
> But where should I put the $0, $1, and $2 re-write definitions? I'm assuming:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> $1=pcr387
> $2=hecky.acns.nwu.edu
> 

No you can't define these.  They coorespond the the components of the
address coming in.

> But the documentation (Exim manual) implies that:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> $1=david
> $2=milwaukee
> 
> ...so I'm confused as to which is right. 

This one is right.

>How close am I to doing this correctly?
> 

I would just do this.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Ffsr

I put this rule in my exim.conf to test and this is the result.
 
# exim -brw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
env-from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  env-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So outbound addresses are rewritten and inbound ones are left alone.

I also set the primary_hostname to my dynamic dns name so that the
Message-Id gets set properly(look in the header of this mail).

HTH,
-- 
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-
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Re: Difference between dpkg and other installs

1999-09-30 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 03:25:28PM -0500, Steve Doerr wrote:
> Could anyone help me with the difference between dpkg and other
> installs.  I have installed netscape and wp8 w/o using dselect.
> Should everything be installed through dpkg to get the cleanest
> Debian system or does it matter?  I also need JDK 1.1 and
> PostGresql 6.5 or greater and I don't want to create conflicts
> with libraries (i.e. libpgsql) that won't be identified outside
> of dselect.  I don't think either of the above has the package
> info needed to APT them, so they'll have to go on manually
> (unless somebody can point me to some documentation on how to
> run anything through dselect).  Any insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thank you
> 
> 
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dselect and apt are "frontends" to dpkg --- they look different and
have different options, but when you actually start installing the
programs with them (beginning with the "Reading database..." part of
the output), that's where they've called dpkg to do that work for
them.  In addition, all of these guys are aware of Debian's
dependencies.  Isn't that nifty?

Rob

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Re: PPP Host Configuration

1999-09-30 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I think you need to go into /etc/gettytab and
establish a login prompt on a serial port for one
thing.  Install  apache for another.

--- Ramana Tadepalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I cant get my Linux installation to behave like a
> server (http for a
> start). Where should I begin?. How can I get it to
> run a dial-in server
> to receive connects on the modem.
> Please help
> Ramana
> 
> 


=
Amateur Radio, when all else fails!

http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze

Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or .


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Re: fvwm with WM dockable apps

1999-09-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Sep, Shao Zhang wrote about "fvwm with WM dockable apps"
> Hi,
>   Ok, call me old fashioned. But I still like fvwm these days
>   among so many windows managers.
> 

Same here.

>   fvwm does not seem to be able to remeber the window's geometry,
>   and WM dockable apss does not seem to have a -geometry option.
> 
>   Is there any way to tell fvwm to place those apps in a
>   particular position?
> 

I just swallow my 14 wm dock apps in an FvwmButtons bar.  If you want to
have the apps clustered in different areas you can set up multiple
FvwmButtons by giving them each a unique name, the details are in the
FvwmButtons man page under the Initialization section.

An example is:

*FvwmButtons(Swallow(UseOld,NoKill) "wmtime" "Exec wmtime &", Size 64 64, 1x1+1+
1)

This also starts wmtime when the window manager starts up since I do
not start the doc apps anywhere else in the .xsession or fvwm
InitFunction.

HTH,
-- 
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-
Mechanical Engineering  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
-


Exim re-writing help

1999-09-30 Thread David Kanter
I would like to rewrite my address with exim. (I only send outgoing mail to the 
Internet; no local mail.) I've read the documentation, but am still a bit 
confused on exactly how to set up the re-write. I would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to be re-written to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (either that or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], which is easier to read).

>From what I've read, I should do something like:

*@@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] then all the flags

But where should I put the $0, $1, and $2 re-write definitions? I'm assuming:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$1=pcr387
$2=hecky.acns.nwu.edu

But the documentation (Exim manual) implies that:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$1=david
$2=milwaukee

...so I'm confused as to which is right. How close am I to doing this correctly?

Thanks,
Dave


PPP Host Configuration

1999-09-30 Thread Ramana Tadepalli
I cant get my Linux installation to behave like a server (http for a
start). Where should I begin?. How can I get it to run a dial-in server
to receive connects on the modem.
Please help
Ramana


Re: dselect unstable problem

1999-09-30 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Adam Olejniczak wrote:

> Hello all
> 
> I'm a fresh user of debian  i was using redhat so far.
> so i was using dselect with unstable option
> and everything was working just fine till yesterday when i got following
> errors
> 
> 
> Hitt ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Packages
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Release
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Release
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Release
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Malformed Priority line
> E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
> E: Problem with MergeList
> /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i3
> 
> 86_Packages
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> 
> when i'm doing Update
> 
> when I'm using stable version everything is working just fine
> 
> any ideas ?
> 
> thanks for help
> 
> Regards
> Adam Olejniczak
> 

exactly the same problem today morning only the server is 
http://ftp1.us.debian.org

any help is greatly appreciated

Oleg


Re: dselect unstable problem

1999-09-30 Thread Ed Cogburn
Adam Olejniczak wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I'm a fresh user of debian  i was using redhat so far.
> so i was using dselect with unstable option
> and everything was working just fine till yesterday when i got following
> errors
> 
> Hitt ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Packages
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Release
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Release
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
> Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Release
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Malformed Priority line
> E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
> E: Problem with MergeList
> /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.



See "Unstable package list at ftp.debian.org" thread.


Short answer:  edit the above mentioned file.  search for 'optionnal';
its there in 2 places.  Remove extra 'n' from both.  save file.  touch
file so its date/time is the same as the other two similar files in that
dir (one for contrib, one for non-free).  Fini.  Note:  running update
will overwrite the above file.


-- 
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RE: dselect unstable problem

1999-09-30 Thread Jon Hughes
I got this error last night myself and I "fixed" it by commenting out the
offending site in the /etc/apt/sources.list, but I'm not sure if that's the
best/permanent fix.  But it did work for the time being


-Original Message-
From:   Adam Olejniczak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:03 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:dselect unstable problem

Hello all

I'm a fresh user of debian  i was using redhat so far.
so i was using dselect with unstable option
and everything was working just fine till yesterday when i got
following
errors


Hitt ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Release
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Release
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Release
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Malformed Priority line
E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList

/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary
-i3

86_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

when i'm doing Update

when I'm using stable version everything is working just fine

any ideas ?

thanks for help

Regards
Adam Olejniczak


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dselect unstable problem

1999-09-30 Thread Adam Olejniczak
Hello all

I'm a fresh user of debian  i was using redhat so far.
so i was using dselect with unstable option
and everything was working just fine till yesterday when i got following
errors


Hitt ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/main Release
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/contrib Release
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.pl.debian.org unstable/non-free Release
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Malformed Priority line
E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
E: Problem with MergeList
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.pl.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i3

86_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

when i'm doing Update

when I'm using stable version everything is working just fine

any ideas ?

thanks for help

Regards
Adam Olejniczak


Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Paul M Sargent
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:43:40AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 03:42:14PM +0100, Paul M Sargent wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:23:04AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > Have you tried adding nis to the /etc/nsswitch.conf fields? Note, than the
> > > pam_unix.so modules (being that they use standard libc calls for use
> > > lookups) recognizes NIS with any problems, so long as the NS Switch is
> > > setup properly.
> > 
> > I'll give it a go[]

Right I put 'nis' on the start of the passwd line in /etc/nsswitch.conf. No
change. :-( I even restarted all services just to be sure (runlevel 2->1->2)

> > The other thing I should have mentioned is in /var/log/auth.log I'm getting
> > 
> > PAM_unix [1234]: authentation failure; LOGIN(uid=0) ->  for login
> > service
> 
> That's incorrect, you can login with a password locally because it then
> acts like a normal UNIX login. You HAVE to add nis to the nsswitch.conf
> fields in order to use _any_ programs with NIS. This is not a PAM issue.

OK, now you're confusing me.

* I have no local users on this machine apart from root. 
* I can login with users specified in the NIS database if that user has a
password.
* I can not login with a NIS user if that user has a blank password. 
* If I give a user which is not in the NIS database I get a different
authentication error message. (Cannot retrieve authentation info.)
* finger  retrieves the correct information from the NIS database.

How can NIS not be working?

Paul

P.S. I'm not trying to wind you up, I'm just confused.
--
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Tel: +44 (1784) 476669
Fax: +44 (1784) 470699
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Re: apt-ing "unstable" files for a "stable" box

1999-09-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, David Kanter wrote:

 : Is this bad: having a stable box (i.e., Slink) but using apt to
 : update some files from the "unstable" tree?

Depends on what "bad" means to you:

o It should be alright in the sense that apt will take care of
dependencies for you, so there should be no problem.

o It may break severely since you're using "unstable" (has the name for
a reason :)

In truth, Debian "unstable" is quite stable.  That doesn't mean things
won't (or don't) break.

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mail not deleted from spool on inc with exmh

1999-09-30 Thread Richard E. Hawkins

I've seen this problem a couple of times before, and it's happening 
again.

My mail is not being deleted from the spool when exmh incorporates it.  
As a result, the same messages are incorporated again and again.  Using 
inc from the command line seems to solve the problem.  Sometimes (not 
always), I end up with an extraneous lock file that survives the inc
orporation, but just deleting this doesn't solve the problem.

I have installed:
ii  biff0.10-1 a mail notification tool
ii  elm-me+ 2.4pl25ME+48-2 MIME & PGP-aware interactive mail reader [en
ii  exmh2.0.2-4slink2  An X user interface for MH mail.
ii  grepmail3.4.1-4search mailboxes for mail matching an expres
ii  mailx   8.1.1-10   A simple mail user agent.
ii  metamail2.7-31 An implementation of MIME.
ii  mime-support3.5-1  MIME files 'mime.types' & 'mailcap', and sup
ii  nmh 0.27-0.28-pre8 A set of electronic mail handling programs.
rc  procmail3.13.1-1   Versatile e-mail processor.
ii  smail   3.2.0.102-1Electronic mail transport system.
ii  xmh 3.3.2.3a-11X interface to MH mail system

any hints?

-- 



startx libraries errors

1999-09-30 Thread J

--- Begin Message ---
When booting I receive the following errors:

Starting X display manager: xdm/usr/bin/X11/xdm: error in loading shared
libraries
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol: _ _ mb _ cur _ max already
running

Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 debian tty1

After I log in I try the following:

debian:/# startx
xauth: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol: _ _ mb _ cur _ max
It repeats again...
xauth: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol: _ _ mb _ cur _ max

xinit: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol: _ _ mb _ cur _ max

I also can not run XF86Setup, the following occurs

debian:/#XF86Setup
XF86Setup: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.s0.6: undefined symbol: _ _ mb_cur _ max

I was able to run xf86config successfully.

I did check to see if the libraries existed and they do.  Any
suggestions would be great

Thanks

John Considine

--- End Message ---


dpkg problem

1999-09-30 Thread Liu Chung Him
Dear all,

Recently, i download the libc6_2.1.2-5.deb and install it with dpkg.
However, there are some error messages :

...

gzip: stdout: Broken pipe
dpkg-deb: subprocess gzip -dc returned error exit status 1
dpkg-deb: error processing lib6_2.1.2-5.deb (--install):
  subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2

...


I have download the package again from other ftp site,but there is still
error.What is the problem ??

Pls help

Wilson


Re: Reading compressed files in XEmacs

1999-09-30 Thread Gary Hennigan
Kristopher Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The XEmacs documentation seems to imply that it can open
> compressed files--that is, it will automatically uncompress them,
> let you edit, and then recompress if you made changes.
> 
> But this doesn't work for me.  Opening a *.gz file just shows me
> the compressed form.  Is there something special I need to do to
> enable the automatic decompression?

I've found that although XEmacs seems to think auto-compression is on
it doesn't work unless I toggle it off and then on again, eg.:

M-x auto-compression-mode
M-x auto-compression-mode

The first turns it off, the second back on again. After that I'm
golden and can read *.gz files just fine.

Gary


netscape killing my machine

1999-09-30 Thread Aaron Solochek
As of very recently, netscape has been acting up.  A few times in the
past few days it has just about halted my machine, on one occasion I
needed to hard reboot.  I just arrived back from class a few minutes ago
and I thought my comptuer was dead, turns out it was just going
REALLY slow.  According to the cpu meter there was not much activity,
but when I checked the memory I saw that I had only like 12mb free of
physical (of 128) and like 40 of swap (of 300).  No wonder things were
crawling.  I could hear all the swapping as my drive churned.  Anyways
ps aux showed that netscape was using 79%!! of my memory.  I had to kill
-9 it, kill wouldn't work, but after that things have returned to
normal.  What could be causing this?  I use netscape for mail as well,
and I think that there is something messed up with one of my mailboxes,
but how does that cause this?

-Aaron Solochek
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 03:42:14PM +0100, Paul M Sargent wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:23:04AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > Have you tried adding nis to the /etc/nsswitch.conf fields? Note, than the
> > pam_unix.so modules (being that they use standard libc calls for use
> > lookups) recognizes NIS with any problems, so long as the NS Switch is
> > setup properly.
> 
> I'll give it a go, but I'm managing to login if the user has a password set,
> so I don't think the actual NIS fetch is a problem. I think that the fault
> lies in the PAM authentiation.
> 
> The other thing I should have mentioned is in /var/log/auth.log I'm getting
> 
> PAM_unix [1234]: authentation failure; LOGIN(uid=0) ->  for login
> service

That's incorrect, you can login with a password locally because it then
acts like a normal UNIX login. You HAVE to add nis to the nsswitch.conf
fields in order to use _any_ programs with NIS. This is not a PAM issue.

Ben


RE: pcmcia net card does not show up in "ifconfig" listing.

1999-09-30 Thread Pollywog

On 30-Sep-99 Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> I realise something is probably not configured correctly. I installed
> pcmcia-source, and compiled it with dpkg-kpkg, then installed the
> resulting .deb file. Everything seems to be working fine, except that I
> expected the network card in the slot to show up when I run ifconfig. It
> does not. 
> 
What happens when you do (as root):

/etc/init.d/network start   ?


--
Andrew


Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Paul M Sargent
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:23:04AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> Have you tried adding nis to the /etc/nsswitch.conf fields? Note, than the
> pam_unix.so modules (being that they use standard libc calls for use
> lookups) recognizes NIS with any problems, so long as the NS Switch is
> setup properly.

I'll give it a go, but I'm managing to login if the user has a password set,
so I don't think the actual NIS fetch is a problem. I think that the fault
lies in the PAM authentiation.

The other thing I should have mentioned is in /var/log/auth.log I'm getting

PAM_unix [1234]: authentation failure; LOGIN(uid=0) ->  for login
service

Paul
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Re: pcmcia net card does not show up in "ifconfig" listing.

1999-09-30 Thread Martin Fluch
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:

> I realise something is probably not configured correctly. I installed
> pcmcia-source, and compiled it with dpkg-kpkg, then installed the
> resulting .deb file. Everything seems to be working fine, except that I
> expected the network card in the slot to show up when I run ifconfig. It
> does not. 

Did you do a make-kpkg modules_images. There should show up a second
deb-package called pcmcia-... (I don't remember exactly).

Martin

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Re: Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 03:18:26PM +0100, Paul M Sargent wrote:
> I have, what I expect is, a simple problem.
> 
> I'm trying to set my Potato box to use NIS to do the lookup for /etc/passwd.
> I have the +:: line at the bottom of my passwd file, and all the yp
> tools work fine (e.g. 'ypmatch pauls passwd' brings up the right response.)
> I've even got autofs automouting home directories with info gleened from the
> NIS database.
> 
> Everything is greatexcept...
> 
> If the user has no password then he can't logon to the system. What is
> blocking this? I believe this is PAM rather than NIS causing the problem,
> but PAM is a mystery to me.
> 
> Does anybody have any ideas? or any good sources of info for PAM?

Have you tried adding nis to the /etc/nsswitch.conf fields? Note, than the
pam_unix.so modules (being that they use standard libc calls for use
lookups) recognizes NIS with any problems, so long as the NS Switch is
setup properly.

Ben


Potato NIS Vs PAM problems

1999-09-30 Thread Paul M Sargent
I have, what I expect is, a simple problem.

I'm trying to set my Potato box to use NIS to do the lookup for /etc/passwd.
I have the +:: line at the bottom of my passwd file, and all the yp
tools work fine (e.g. 'ypmatch pauls passwd' brings up the right response.)
I've even got autofs automouting home directories with info gleened from the
NIS database.

Everything is greatexcept...

If the user has no password then he can't logon to the system. What is
blocking this? I believe this is PAM rather than NIS causing the problem,
but PAM is a mystery to me.

Does anybody have any ideas? or any good sources of info for PAM?

Thanks

Paul
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Re: apt-ing "unstable" files for a "stable" box

1999-09-30 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:06:34AM -0500, David Kanter wrote:
> Is this bad: having a stable box (i.e., Slink) but using apt to update some
> files from the "unstable" tree?

Nope.  *some* instability might occur, but that doesn't mean it is bad.
Just be sensable on what you're doing and it should be fine.

-- 
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 ICQ: 5107343  | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
---+-


apt-ing "unstable" files for a "stable" box

1999-09-30 Thread David Kanter
Is this bad: having a stable box (i.e., Slink) but using apt to update some 
files from the "unstable" tree?

Here's why: I have Slink and downloaded Netscape 4.61 from the unstable tree. 
Why? Getting a stable Netscape never seemed to work; not all the necessary 
files would download, so I opted to go for the unstable mirror, which has a 
nice meta package for Netscape.

Thanks,
Dave


Keyboard Question (IBM Type)

1999-09-30 Thread Jon Hughes
My girlfriend is going to be purchasing a new  keyboard to work with her
Linux box when we set it up.  However, we've had problems with the
Keyboard/track pointer thing in the past.  Does anyone know if the 104 Key
Trackpoint Keyboard from IBM has had any problems with Debian?  Thanks

http://www.direct.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/SalesNav?partnum=01K1260&cntry=8
40&lang=en_US

"God, Root. What is the difference?"
Pitr, User Friendly


Re: daylight savings

1999-09-30 Thread Richard Kaszeta
Mario Olimpio de Menezes writes ("daylight savings"):
>
>Hi,
>
>   Where can I see the settings for daylight savings? 
>   That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes
>from year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1
>or 2 days till it changes.
>   We'll have a change in Oct, 3. Where can I see if this is the
>correct setting?

In Brazil, is there a pattern to the dates of the switchover (i.e., if
I wanted to know when DST changeover would happen in 2015, could I
figure it out, or is it selected by the govt. each year)?  If so, I'd
submit this as a bug so it can get forwarded to the upstream maintainer.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]   University of MN, ME Dept
http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta


pcmcia net card does not show up in "ifconfig" listing.

1999-09-30 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
I realise something is probably not configured correctly. I installed
pcmcia-source, and compiled it with dpkg-kpkg, then installed the
resulting .deb file. Everything seems to be working fine, except that I
expected the network card in the slot to show up when I run ifconfig. It
does not. 

How can I determine whether everything is working correctly? What must I
do to make the card (an Accton network card) show up when "ifconfig" is
run?

I recompiled the kernel using the same options (under Network Device
Support) as on the laptop on which the card works.

BTW, I'm running Debian 2.1 (slink), kernel 2.0.36.

I am not very experienced (Although I have got this card working on
another laptop, as well as a well working desktop computer), so even tips
that seem "obvious" can be useful. (Yes, the card does seem to be
inserted completely, and I hear two beeps when inserting it (one lowish, 
and one an octave higher). )

Thanks in advance,
Hugo van der Merwe

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100% certain that replies will reach me.


What's this in my daemon.log

1999-09-30 Thread Patrik Magnusson
This has been popping up for a couple of days now. Anyone know
what it means?

Sep 27 15:58:10 pedgr634 identd[26739]: started 
  
Sep 27 15:58:10 pedgr634 identd[26746]: request_thread: read(10, ..., 1023) 
failed: Connection reset by peer
  
Sep 27 17:49:04 pedgr634 identd[27296]: started 
  
Sep 27 20:50:00 pedgr634 identd[27721]: started 
  
Sep 27 20:50:00 pedgr634 identd[27728]: request_thread: read(10, ..., 1023) 
failed: Connection reset by peer
  
Sep 28 08:29:46 pedgr634 identd[29850]: started 
  
Sep 28 08:29:46 pedgr634 identd[29857]: request_thread: read(10, ..., 1023) 
failed: Connection reset by peer
  

/Patrik.


Re: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade kernel?

1999-09-30 Thread Martin Fluch
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Marc Mongeon wrote:

> I just upgraded to potato using "apt-get dist-upgrade".  I expected
> that this would upgrade my kernel (to 2.1) along with all the other
> packages.  Was I mistaken in this belief?  I am proceeding by getting
> the kernel source and building the kernel myself, but I wanted to be
> sure that I hadn't done something wrong.

There is a thread to the subject 'Re: Kernel upgrades = security upgrade'.
Have a look at the mailing list archive.

Martin

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Re: ppp broken, log says: "Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean"

1999-09-30 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
It's more likely that some further authentication is necessary, i.e. PPP itself 
is not
being started automatically upon connect but instead there's some other prompt 
which
must be negotiated. The best way to diagnose this is to use seyon or minicom 
(or other
terminal program) to manually dial the number and see what the remote side does.

David Karlin wrote:

> Hello,
> Upon returning home from a trip, my slink box is no longer able to connect
> to my
> ISP.  Up until the time I left, it had been working fine.  I was even able
> to
> telnet (ssh) into the system for the first few days I was away.
>
> Fortunately/unfortunately, my win95 system is able to connect as before,
> with no
> problem.
>
> Here is a snippet from /var/log/ppp.log:
>
> Sep 29 19:11:56 champagne chat[27653]: expect (CONNECT)
> Sep 29 19:11:56 champagne chat[27653]: ^M
> Sep 29 19:12:16 champagne chat[27653]: ATDT9494614^M^M
> Sep 29 19:12:16 champagne chat[27653]: CONNECT
> Sep 29 19:12:16 champagne chat[27653]:  -- got it
> Sep 29 19:12:16 champagne chat[27653]: send (\d)
> Sep 29 19:12:17 champagne pppd[27652]: Serial connection established.
> Sep 29 19:12:18 champagne pppd[27652]: Using interface ppp0
> Sep 29 19:12:18 champagne pppd[27652]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> Sep 29 19:12:18 champagne pppd[27652]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  0x0> <
> magic 0xb74c60e2>  ]
> Sep 29 19:12:45 champagne last message repeated 9 times
> Sep 29 19:12:48 champagne pppd[27652]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
> Sep 29 19:12:48 champagne pppd[27652]: Connection terminated.
> Sep 29 19:12:48 champagne pppd[27652]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit
> clean:
> Sep 29 19:12:48 champagne pppd[27652]: Problem: all had even parity
> Sep 29 19:12:48 champagne pppd[27652]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> Sep 29 19:12:48 champagne pppd[27652]: Exit.
>
> My ISP has me connect through a Compuserve access number because they have
> none
> of their own in my local calling area.  I suspect that something has changed
> at
> the Compuserve end of the line while I was away, and that this thing is
> something
> that MS DUN can deal with automatically, but which must be configured
> manually in
> linux.
>
> I further suspect that some change was made in the parity setting, as
> indicated
> by /var/log/ppp.log.
>
> Which file must I edit in order to get ppp to work with even parity?  Is
> this some
> thing that can be fixed by editing my modems initialization string, or must
> I edit
> some other configuration file?  Please enlighten me.
>
> Thanks.
>
> P.S.  Please cc: me as I'm a digest subscriber.
> --
> David Karlin
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> Reduced to using Windows 95 :-(
>
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gnumeric complains about platform independent libraries

1999-09-30 Thread Kent West
When trying to start gnumeric, I get the following complaints:

Could not find platform independent libraries 
Could not find platform dependent libraries 
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:]
'import exceptions' failed; use -v for traceback
Warning!  Falling back to string-based exceptions
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
Gnumeric/Python module initialized
Symbol [mid] redefined.

Gnumeric appears to work, but these warnings bother me. Do I need
to be concerned about them?


Re: Callback

1999-09-30 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
callback is generally accomplished through an extension to ppp. I don't think 
that the
linux pppd daemon has support for this (at least not version 2.3.5 that I'm 
using). A
quick look at the README on the upstream maintainer's site doesn't seem to 
indicate
support for this either:

ftp://cs.anu.edu.au/pub/software/ppp/README

"A. Barry" wrote:

> Hi, I am a new converter to linux os, ending the misery of windows os.
> I managed will till now to install debian linux and managed to have ppp
> to
> work fine for some connections. My main isp requires a callback
> authentication
> to connect, and I could not fined any mention of callback in all the
> docs I have,
> including the HOW-TOs.
> Any help.
>
> A. Barry
>
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Re: Callback

1999-09-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting A. Barry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi, I am a new converter to linux os, ending the misery of windows os.
> I managed will till now to install debian linux and managed to have ppp
> to
> work fine for some connections. My main isp requires a callback
> authentication
> to connect, and I could not fined any mention of callback in all the
> docs I have,
> including the HOW-TOs.

You need to look at the mgetty documentation. Effectively, callback
is something that is done by mgetty before ppp gets handed the
connection.

I've not managed to configure callback with pppconfig, but the easiest
approach seems to be to use pppconfig, pretending that you're not
using callback; then add the extra lines to /etc/chatscript/foo.
For example:

ABORT BUSY
ABORT VOICE
ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
"" ATZ
OK AT
OK ATDT015
ogin:--ogin: \d\qsecret-word  )<- after sending this, it hangs up.
RING ''   )these are inserted
RING ''   )after pppconfig.
RING ata  )<- my box answers the phone now.
ogin:--ogin: ''

Notes: Don't use ABORT "NO CARRIER" because that's a message
you'll receive when it deliberately hangs up.
   secret-word is a userid that makes my remote mgetty call
me back. Each secret chooses a different (selection of) number.
   Check your /etc/mgetty/login.config for the /AutoPPP/ line
which determines how mgetty behaves when it receives a call that
chucks PPP at it.

Cheers,

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dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade kernel?

1999-09-30 Thread Marc Mongeon
I just upgraded to potato using "apt-get dist-upgrade".  I expected
that this would upgrade my kernel (to 2.1) along with all the other
packages.  Was I mistaken in this belief?  I am proceeding by getting
the kernel source and building the kernel myself, but I wanted to be
sure that I hadn't done something wrong.

Thank you,

Marc

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Re: Strange apt-get behaviour...

1999-09-30 Thread Kristopher Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Please respond to the above email as I only subscribe to the digest, and
> not the actual mailing list.
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I tried running apt-get on a potato system running kernel 2.2.12 this
> afternoon, and when it finished downloading the Packages.gz files, apt-get
> exited with this error message:
> 
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Malformed Priority line
> E: Error occured while processing aleph-dev (NewVersion1)
> E: Problem with MergeList
>  /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_potat
>  o_main_binary-i386_Packages
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> 
> I'm assuming that this might have something to do with incorrect
> permissions being set or something along those lines.
> 
> The only problem that I can see that I could have induced was the
> accidental destruction of my suid.conf file a couple of days ago...  As
> far as I know, that's the only thing that has changed on my system.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance!!!

This is not your fault--the downloaded file is bad.

Short answer: edit the
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp.debian.org_debian_dists_potato_main_binary-i386_Packages
file with a text editor.  There are two places where "optional"
is misspelled as "optionnal".  Just remove the extra 'n's, and
everything will work.

Long answer:  Check out the "Unstable package list at
ftp.debian.org is bad" thread in this list.

- Kris


Re: Unstable package list at ftp.debian.org is bad

1999-09-30 Thread Kristopher Johnson
Marcus Johansson wrote:
> Try:
> 
> # apt-get check
> 
> That might fix the problem, not sure.
> 
> /Marcus

No, apt-get check doesn't fix it.  The file corruption prevents
apt-get from doing anything.

- Kris


Re: Modem speed

1999-09-30 Thread Marc Mongeon
Christian:

The Cisco AS5200 does contain a bank of modems-- if your Windows
machine is getting 42000bps, then they're likely 56K modems.  Are the
Windows and Linux machines calling on the same phone line?  They're
calling the same phone number, right?

To verify that Linux isn't mis-reporting the speed, use minicom to talk
to the modem.  Send it whatever init string is specified in
/etc/chatscripts/, then dial the phone number:
"atdt".  When you connect, does your modem report
"CONNECT 36"?  If it does this repeatedly, then you can be
fairly confident that this it really is always connecting at this speed.
If you suspect that it should be able to connect at a higher speed,
start looking through the AT command reference for the modem, to
make sure that you haven't inadvertently told it not to try to connect
at a higher speed.  I believe that most modems accept "at&f" as a
command to return everything to the factory default.

Let us know what you find.

Marc

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>>> Christian Dysthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/29/99 05:37PM 
I do not think ISP two has modems at all. You dial directly in to the
Cisco unit or something. At least that is what they told me. ISP one
has 56k modems.

We have a Windows machine here dialing into the same ISP (the slow one),
and that machine gets at least a 42000 connection.

Below you can see ping stats from ISP two:

--- ping statistics ---
26 packets transmitted, 26 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 89.4/107.6/174.8 ms




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info2www not finding icons

1999-09-30 Thread Kristopher Johnson
I have dwww and info2www installed, using apache.  The pages
returned by info2www don't have any pictures in them.

The image files are in /usr/share/doc/info2www (next.gif,
prev.gif, up.gif, etc.).  The info2www-generated pages have IMG
tags that look like .  But
apache doesn't seem to be able to find them.

I've tried adding a symlink /var/www/doc -> /usr/share/doc, but
that hasn't helped.  Anyone know what might be up?

(FWIW, I think this worked before I upgraded to potato.)

Thanks,
Kris


daylight savings

1999-09-30 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

Where can I see the settings for daylight savings? 
That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes
from year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1
or 2 days till it changes.
We'll have a change in Oct, 3. Where can I see if this is the
correct setting?
Thanks,

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
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Re: Kernel upgrades = security upgrades - a possible solution?

1999-09-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Marcin Owsiany ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 05:24:54PM +0300, Martin Fluch wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> > 
> > > I guess this kind of kernel packages would be for people quite concerned
> > > about security but also quite lazy :)
> > 
> > I guess, this is mutual exclusive. People which are lazy will leave many
> > (and I think also bigger) security holes some where else on the system, so
> > that it won't matter, if you keep your kernel that much secure...
> 
> well, yes you are right.
> :)
> I guess i didn't really think of it before writing :(
> 
> > > Also if you administer a lot of boxes, and if they work ok with the 
> > > default
> > > kernel you will find it _a lot_ more convenient to automatically upgrade
> > > kernel than to compile it for each box...
> > 
> > Ever considerd the package 'kernel-package'. This makes out of any kernel
> > source debian packages, which then can be installed with dpkg, apt-get or
> > what ever ... 
> 
> sure, since i had discovered it, i've never made a kernel without using it.
> But still you have to make the kernel, and if you compile it, you can't
> resist tweaking it to each particular system's needs, can you? :)

But this is where modules can help you. I have several machines that
need slightly different configurations because they have different
built-in sound mobos. I compile the kernel on one of them but with all
the modules I need. Then I fine tune /etc/modules for soundcard, ppa,
joystick etc.

But I think that the separation of kernel and distribution is a valuable
property of linux and should be preserved at all costs. Otherwise there
is the temptation to introduce subtle dependencies between them, which
increases complexity and decreases robustness.

On a slightly different but related tack, now that NT is an
Intel-only OS, how long before Intel architecture specific code
creeps into the kernel. How hard will it be to extract those
dependencies when transferring it to a new platform.

Cheers,

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Re: Environment Variable weirdness

1999-09-30 Thread Brian Servis
The first two variables are set by the shell and are determined either
at compile time or by the environment it starts up in.  Read the man
page for your shell.  For bash it says the following:

   HOSTTYPE
  Automatically   set   to  a  string  that  uniquely
  describes the type of machine on which bash is exe­
  cuting.  The default is system-dependent.
[...]
   MACHTYPE
  Automatically  set to a string that fully describes
  the system type on which bash is executing, in  the
  standard   GNU   cpu-company-system   format.   The
  default is system-dependent.

Others have described how they are used and what they pertain to.


*- On 29 Sep, Salman Ahmed wrote about "Environment Variable weirdness"
> 
> (1)
> Running Debian 2.1, I noticed sth odd about a couple of 
> environment variables (I am running XFree-3.3.3.1-2).
> 
> First of all :
> 
> HOSTTYPE=i386-linux
> 
> I have a Celeron 300A processor and have installed a new
> 2.2.12 kernel recently. Where is this variable getting
> set from ?
> 
> How do I change this env variable on a global basis ?
> 
> Same thing for the MACHTYPE env variable :
> 
> MACHTYPE=i386
> 
> Why do these variables refer to i386 when the arch
> command displays the correct output :
> 
> @phoenix:[/home/ssahmed] arch
> i686
> 
> 
> (2)
> The other thing is that the DISPLAY env variable is set
> to "unix:0.0". My question is : shouldn't this variable
> be of the form $HOSTNAME:0.0 ? So why is set to "unix:0.0" ?
> 
> And how do I change this env variable on a global basis
> (ie for all users) ?
> 
> 
> (3)
> The last thing is : I'd like to create an environment variable
> that contains the following information : kernel version and
> machine architechture. e.g. : linux-2.2.12-i686. Let's call
> it OSVERSION. Where do I set this environment variable ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 

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Re: Reading compressed files in XEmacs

1999-09-30 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 30 Sep, Johann Spies wrote about "Re: Reading compressed files in XEmacs"
> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:
> 
>> On a somewhat related note : is it possible to view compressed (.gz) files
>> with pagers like more/less ? I think I remember a thread about this either
>> on this list or on some linux NG a while back except that I was paying
>> attention at that time!
> 
> zless, zmore
> 

Better yet, read /usr/doc/less/LESSOPEN.gz.  With the very basic
instructions in there you can less almost any file you want: gz, bz2,
deb, tar, etc.  

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Re: su username w/o password in potato

1999-09-30 Thread peter karlsson
> However, with the new PAMified packages, I cannot replicate this
> functionality, and I can't find information about how to do it... anyone?

/etc/pam.d/su:

# This allows root to su without passwords (normal operation)
auth   sufficient pam_rootok.so

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Re: Sun classic

1999-09-30 Thread Andrew Hately
Ben Collins wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:35:40PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm interested in installing Debian Linux on a Sun Classic.
> > Any pointers will be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Oki
> 
> There is an install text in /debian/dists/slink/main/disks-sparc. Most
> likely you will want to download the rescue, driver and root images with
> the 2.2.1 kernel image. After booting the rescue disk, the install is
> pretty much the same as an i386 install.

I tried both the 2.2.1 kernel rescue disc and the 2.0.36 on my
sparcstation2; the newer one didn't seem to be able to eject the floppy when
the next one was needed.
Otherwise, its just like the i386 install, as Ben said.
To find out how to get the sun to boot from floppy, the debain install pages
guide you to sun's boot prompt web pages. Something like "setenv
boot_device=floppy" is needed; but check this - I did it once, months ago...
Andrew

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Re: Environment Variable weirdness

1999-09-30 Thread peter karlsson
Salman Ahmed:

> But where is this env. var being set from ? 

It's not even an environment variable, but rather an internal bash variable.

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Re: Unstable package list at ftp.debian.org is bad

1999-09-30 Thread Ed Cogburn
Johan Ur Riise wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 09:35:03PM -0400, Kristopher Johnson wrote:
> > David Natkins wrote:
> > >
> > > Seems to be a problem with the package list for unstable at 
> > > ftp.debian.org.
> > > One of the packages (aleph-dev) is causing the problem.
> >
> > You can open the package list file with a text editor and fix the
> > problems.  The other aleph-* packages have the same problem:  the
> > priority line says "optionnal", rather than "optional".  Just
> > delete the extra 'n', and everything will be fine.
> 
> I have the same problem. After editing
> /var/state/apt/lists/www.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_potato_main_binary-i386_Packages
> ( two occurrences of optionnal changed to optional) and rerunning
> apt-get update, the file is downloaded again and I am where I started.
> 
> Johan.


The file you modify is now out of sync with the other ones.  After
making the changes in the file, use touch to set its time to the same as
the others (the 2 other potato files for contrib and nonfree).  This
will prevent it from trying to reload the Packages file.


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fvwm with WM dockable apps

1999-09-30 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
Ok, call me old fashioned. But I still like fvwm these days
among so many windows managers.

fvwm does not seem to be able to remeber the window's geometry,
and WM dockable apss does not seem to have a -geometry option.

Is there any way to tell fvwm to place those apps in a
particular position?

Thanks.

Shao.

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Re: Unstable package list at ftp.debian.org is bad

1999-09-30 Thread Marcus Johansson

> ( two occurrences of optionnal changed to optional) and rerunning 
> apt-get update, the file is downloaded again and I am where I started.

Try:

# apt-get check

That might fix the problem, not sure.

/Marcus




where is /proc/asound?

1999-09-30 Thread rnewton3


Hallo all,
 I've just installed slink on my laptop and I'm trying to use the ALSA. Do
you need to do any special configureation for ALSA?
I've just got a vanilla system and a custom kernel ( still 2.0.36 though) and
ALSA just doesn't work. I don't appear to have a /proc/asound directory and I
can't find out how to get one.
 The reason I want this is because I bought Civ:CTP and it doesn't play the
music. So I figured that my sound wasn't correctly figured on hamm, one upgrade
later and I'm still confused.

 Any suggestions on how best to get ALSA running would be appreciated.
 Could you cc. me as well 'cos I'm at work at the mo. :-)

thanks



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