Re: graphic card problems
On Monday 10 May 2004 09:55 am, Micha Feigin wrote: > > as if by magic as far as I can see. I did a little poking around, and > > still have no clue. [snip] > It is loaded automatically by modprobe when loading the card driver > which is probably loaded automatically by the X server. Ah. That explains why I never configured it manually then. -- Michael McIntyre Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Make local KDM connect to remote KDM automatically?
I set up a simple terminal/server arrangement using a PII-233 with a native install of Debian as the terminal. I used to do this kind of thing with LTSP, but I'm getting away from that. I currently have a script out of /etc/init.d that runs X -query [server]. This works fine as far as my users ever notice, but if there's ever any reason to kill X, it doesn't respawn, and I have to intervene manually. Seems to me like there's some bit of magic I can work to get the terminal's KDM or XDM to query the server automatically. That way I can be running ?DM on the terminal in the usual respawning fashion, and still have it manifest itself as a login screen for the server. -- Michael McIntyre Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Monitoring debian server
On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 18:50, El pichichi wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently trying to monitor my home debian server. > > I would like to find a way to supervise the processes (for example, if > a process uses more than 85 % of the CPU, I receive an e-mail which > indicates me the process). Try nagios. http;//www.nagios.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problem while unmounting a disk
>the disk is configured as raid1 and mounts as /home while booting the system. i have not opened any other session than >the session i am using to execute the command 'umount /dev/md1' >But system shows that /home is busy. i have no idea where home is used. i am in / directory and have not opened any file >under /home. >Any help will be appriciated Have you tried stopping the software raid device: raidstop /dev/md1 Regards, MB
Re: Request
Sorry, I'm out of the office till May, 11. I'll reply your mail as soon as I get back. With respect, Bagaeva Elena -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem while unmounting a disk
hi i am facing problem while unmounting a mounted disk. the disk is configured as raid1 and mounts as /home while booting the system. i have not opened any other session than the session i am using to execute the command 'umount /dev/md1' But system shows that /home is busy. i have no idea where home is used. i am in / directory and have not opened any file under /home. Any help will be appriciated thanks Jyothi
Re: 2.6.5 -- I broke the internet
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 10:19:55PM -0500, dircha wrote: > , probably hotplug has attempted to configure your wireless card, and > has done so incorrectly. Does the configuration displayed by the > intervening "ifconfig" have the correct parameters for your wireless > network? Definitely a problem with lack of support for the wireless. www.xtrinsic.com/geek/config/cardmgr.txt (copied relevant lines from /var/log/syslog ... times lots showing some working and some not) But I still am really not sure where to turn for the regular ethernet card. These are the last two entries in the syslog that have to do with "eth0"...no errors, but it's also still not working. I'm getting an unrecognized kernel version when I try to do ifup eth0 Before the kernel upgrade: May 10 00:18:29 smeagol kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xd080c000, 00:00:e2:8d:22:8b, IRQ 10 May 10 00:18:29 smeagol kernel: eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C' AFter the kernel upgrade: May 11 00:30:32 smeagol kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd0832000, 00:00:e2:8d:22:8b, IRQ 10 May 11 00:30:32 smeagol kernel: eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8100B/8139D' smeagol:~ 01:28:23 $ ifconfig eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2D:56:0C:29 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:11 Base address:0x100 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:560 (560.0 b) TX bytes:560 (560.0 b) smeagol:~ 01:28:24 $ cat /etc/network/interfaces # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # Network cards auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp smeagol:~ 01:28:31 $ sudo ifup eth0 ifup: interface eth0 already configured smeagol:~ 01:28:37 $ sudo ifdown eth0 cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory smeagol:~ 01:28:50 $ sudo ifup eth0 Unrecognized kernel version -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Viruses on lists
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit >> > messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply >> > removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the >> > world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, >> > particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that >> > case. > > Drop /after/ accepting? Would that not mark you (in the virus' eyes, > anyway) as a potential target? The virus doesn't give a flying fsck if no MTA answers, if it gets a 4xx or 5xx error, if I accept it, or the MTA responds that they're being redirected to Abu Gharib. They'll keep trying repeatedly no matter what. > What with viruses having their own builtin SMTP engines these days > and hence knowing for sure what response was given to the SMTP > session, is that not potentially inviting future, smarter viruses > (with memories for this sort of thing) to hit you first? If they're smart, no, because they're getting a 5xx error... >> Which is why I reject at SMTP. Doesn't push a bounce back to forged >> addresses. > > I should have said - I've followed Paul's instructions on ursine.ca to > set this up, and am consequently rejecting at SMTP time. Woohoo! > I'm unsure as to the difference between accepting a mail and > bouncing later and rejecting at SMTP time as far as murphy is > concerned. (I'm fine with the general difference for normal mail.) It hasn't caused me problems. > Can anyone venture an opinion? Do both bounces (is it correct to > call a 5xx reject a "bounce"?) No, a bounce is when you're getting an automated answer or get forwarded elsewhere without human intervention. A 5xx SMTP response is more properly called a reject. - -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAoGSZUzgNqloQMwcRAlqCAKDRaAZfCBossh0gmlLNssEDLD7dogCgnmxf IC5fyiIQ/U8LW/iijXoQFVI= =u5ee -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Viruses on lists
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:06:43PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager > (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is > running). The list manager then counts that against you in its > determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed > from the list. Smartlist + some procmail and perl on top. Cheers, Pasc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Viruses on lists
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 09:22:41PM +0100, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > Paul Johnson had the gall to say: > > "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [snip] > > > Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager > > > (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is > > > running). The list manager then counts that against you in its > > > determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed > > > from the list. > > > > It takes quite a few bounces before you get removed, though. > > Does anyone know a definitive figure or rate here? 80% of messages sent by the list bouncing in a rolling 24 hour window, calculated at 45 past the hour, every hour. > > > My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit > > > messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply > > > removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the > > > world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, > > > particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that > > > case. > > Drop /after/ accepting? Would that not mark you (in the virus' eyes, > anyway) as a potential target? What with viruses having their own > builtin SMTP engines these days and hence knowing for sure what response > was given to the SMTP session, is that not potentially inviting future, > smarter viruses (with memories for this sort of thing) to hit you first? I really can't see that being an issue. > > Which is why I reject at SMTP. Doesn't push a bounce back to forged > > addresses. > > I should have said - I've followed Paul's instructions on ursine.ca to > set this up, and am consequently rejecting at SMTP time. > > I'm unsure as to the difference between accepting a mail and bouncing > later and rejecting at SMTP time as far as murphy is concerned. (I'm > fine with the general difference for normal mail.) Can anyone venture > an opinion? Do both bounces (is it correct to call a 5xx reject a > "bounce"?) count similarly negatively when working out who shouldn't be > on the list anymore? Should I stop asking questions (sort of like this > one?) inside other questions? They'll both count the same. The only ones that don't count are `soft' bounces, ie stuff that matches: * 1^0 ^Subject: WARNING: message delayed * 1^0 ^Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed * 1^0 ^Subject: Message status - opened * 1^0 ^Subject: (Returned mail: )?warning: c(an|ould )not send m(essage fo|ail afte)r * 1^0 ^Subject: Undeliverable (RFC822 )?mail: temporarily unable to deliver * 1^0 ^Subject: \*\*\* WARNING - Undelivered mail in mailqueue # Soft bounce from Courier Mail Server * 1^0 ^Subject: WARNING: delayed mail. # Soft bounce from Postfix * 1^0 ^Subject: Delayed Mail # Soft bounce from MDaemon? * 1^0 ^Subject: Transient Delivery Failure Matching the actual codes is non-trivial as every MTA uses a different syntax of giving us result, this is an alright approximation in terms of matching temporary bounces... Finally, yes you should stop asking questions inside other questions, as you will find otherwise, that people will only answer the questions you don't want answered, while ignoring the important ones you did want answered. > Answers on a postcard, please ... heh ;-) Cheers, Pasc Please CC me on replies, I'm not subscribed to this list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.5 -- I broke the internet
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 10:19:55PM -0500, dircha wrote: > > smeagol:~ 19:50:59 $ sudo ifup eth1 > > ifup: interface eth1 already configured > > , probably hotplug has attempted to configure your wireless card, and > has done so incorrectly. Does the configuration displayed by the > intervening "ifconfig" have the correct parameters for your wireless > network? Everything is right, except it's missing the line that normally says the inet address. eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"Wavelan Network" Nickname:"smeagol" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457GHz Access Point: 44:44:44:44:44:44 Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > But that's another issue. You should determine what is wrong with your > (PCI?) ethernet card first, as that is more likely a much simpler issue. I'm unsure of where to start looking. /var/log/syslog? dmesg? Should I be looking for a card that fails to load, or something else? thanks, emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 and nvidia
My nvidia is due in the mail soon. The nvidia packages from apt-cache search seem to depend on the 2.4 kernels. Could you walk me through the steps to get get the nvidia drivers built/installed on kernel 2.6.x? I have built the kernel with make-kpkg. Also, Any specific options to choose/not choose in the kernel .config? thanks Were there any package conflicts? I had an ati card and after using alien to convert their .rpm to a .deb it installed fine but created mesa depend conflicts. Wondering if the same happens on nvidia? Kevin Mark wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:46:38AM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: As a warning ... I was getting ready to upgrade my kernel to 2.6. I downloaded the new nvidia package. I was following instructions from /usr/share/doc without really thinking and did a "make" on the modules package. Within seconds I got dumped out of X and have been unable to start it ever since. The error messages I'm getting have to do with the module versions not matching the kernel versions. I have no idea how to get X back under my old kernel, and the new one isn't ready to be used yet (basically nothing's working yet). So as a warningdo NOT mess around with the latest nvidia packages until you know for sure that the rest of the 2.6 kernel is going to work. :( emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin Hi Emma, are you referring to 'make'ing X or the kernel? couldnt you just reinstall what was overriten? or remove the X packages and install them? -Kev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla firefox, mozilla thunderbird and kde-3.2.2
Paul Stolp wrote: * Mal Beaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-05-09 17:23]: can anyone point me where I can look further to change these settings so that email link selected from webbrowser opens up in mozilla-thunderbird web link selected from email opens up in mozilla-firefox thanks Hi Mal, Take a look at update-alternatives Regards, Paul THanks worked for web link selected from email opens up in mozilla-firefox not the other way couldnt find anything in update-alternatives re evolution kmail or email Been googling about how to create one but no luck as yet thought I would apt-get remove evolution as I dont use it Now when I selected a mailto link nothing happens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your Dark Age of Camelot support request
Your email support request to Mythic Entertainment customer support was rejected. Due to the continued spread of viruses sent using .ZIP attachments, we can no longer accept emails with those file attachments. Please resend your email with uncompressed file attachements and try again. If the files you are trying to send are larger than 5 MB, please contact Mythic support via a seperate email for further instructions. We apologize for any inconvienence that this has caused you. Sincerely, Mythic Entertainment Customer Support -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6.5 -- I broke the internet
Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: smeagol:~ 19:49:46 $ sudo ifdown eth1 Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. smeagol:~ 19:50:48 $ sudo ifup eth0 Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. That error almost always indicates that you lack the appropriate line for the device in /etc/network/interfaces. Are you certain that your eth0 line hasn't been changed or commented out? So long as the line is there, even if you do not have the correct kernel module for your card loaded, you usually will not get that error. You would get something like "No such device", or "Bind socket to interface: No such device". Between: > smeagol:~ 19:50:33 $ sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia start > Starting PCMCIA services: cardmgr[2318]: watching 3 sockets > done. and > smeagol:~ 19:50:59 $ sudo ifup eth1 > ifup: interface eth1 already configured , probably hotplug has attempted to configure your wireless card, and has done so incorrectly. Does the configuration displayed by the intervening "ifconfig" have the correct parameters for your wireless network? But that's another issue. You should determine what is wrong with your (PCI?) ethernet card first, as that is more likely a much simpler issue. dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with gs package in testing? (printing problems in Mozilla)
I am using Mozilla 1.6-5 and also Firefox 0.8-2 on my Debian Sarge (2.4.24-1-686) system. I am having printing problems when I print from Mozilla. In Print dialog if I choose to print to a file, I have the following choices: xp_ps_spooldir_tmp_Xprintjobs@:64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Postscript/Default No matter which ps choice I use, if I try to magnify any area from the resulting ps file (by selecting the area using the mouse and trying to magnify it 64 times), my computer gets really busy. Top shows gs is using most of cpu. The magnified window never shows the magnified ps content but ends in Ghostscript Error. The error window though has nothing in it. Is somebody else experiencing this behavior? Or any tips on how to solve this? Here is what other related stuff I have (if I have missed something, just let me know and I will specify that too): $> dpkg -l xprt-* cups* gs gv Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii xprt-common0.0.9.final-1 Xprint - the X11 print system (configuration ii xprt-xprintorg 0.0.9.final-1 Xprint - the X11 print system from xprint.or un cups(no description available) pn cups-pdf(no description available) pn cupsomatic-ppd (no description available) pn cupsys (no description available) ii cupsys-bsd 1.1.20final+cv Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD comman ii cupsys-client 1.1.20final+cv Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client pro pn cupsys-driver- (no description available) pn cupsys-driver- (no description available) pn cupsys-pstoras (no description available) pn cupsys-pt (no description available) ii gs 7.07-1 The Ghostscript Postscript interpreter ii gv 3.5.8-31 A PostScript and PDF viewer for X using 3d A thanks, ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BT Voyager 1010 (or Linksys WUSB11)
Jonathan Melhuish wrote: > Wa-hey! Looks like I got it working! :-) > > May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned > address 23 > May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: $Id: at76c503.c,v 1.35 > 2003/07/30 06:31:51 jal2 Exp $ compiled May 9 2004 16:15:33 > May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: firmware version 0.90.0 #44 > (fcs_len 4) > May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: device's MAC > 00:90:99:45:19:51, regulatory domain MKK1 (Japan) (id 65) > May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: registered wlan0 > > It was actually the at76c503-i3861 driver that it uses. It seems to > vary; both of them seem to be listed for Linksys WUSB11! There's a big > table of Amtel devices here: http://at76c503a.berlios.de/devices.html > > Anyway, once I found that out, it was just a matter of adding the > appropriate USB vendor/product ID to the driver. Here's the diff: > > --- at76c503-i3861.c~ 2003-11-30 01:05:35.0 + > +++ at76c503-i3861.c2004-05-10 22:31:20.0 +0100 > @@ -72,6 +72,9 @@ > #define VENDOR_ID_DYNALINK0x069a > #define PRODUCT_ID_DYNALINK_WLL013_I 0x0320 /* Dynalink/Askey WLL013 > (intersil) */ > > +#define VENDOR_ID_BT0x069a > +#define PRODUCT_ID_BT_VOYAGER_1010 0x0821 /* BT Voyager 1010 */ > + > #define VENDOR_ID_SMC 0x0d5c > #define PRODUCT_ID_SMC2662W_V10xa001 /* EZ connect 11Mpbs > Wireless USB Adapter SMC2662W (v1) */ > @@ -101,6 +104,7 @@ > { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_HP, PRODUCT_ID_HP_HN210W ) }, > { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_M4Y750, PRODUCT_ID_M4Y750) }, > { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_DYNALINK, PRODUCT_ID_DYNALINK_WLL013_I ) }, > + { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_BT, PRODUCT_ID_BT_VOYAGER_1010 ) }, > { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_SMC, PRODUCT_ID_SMC2662W_V1 ) }, > { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_BENQ, PRODUCT_ID_BENQ_AWL_300 ) }, > { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_ADDTRON, PRODUCT_ID_ADDTRON_AWU120) }, > > I'll send it to the Amtel driver guys, so that hopefully it'll be "plug > and play" in future. > > Wow, my first real contribution to the open source community! 8-) > Good Show! Ron -- bumper sticker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.6.5 -- I broke the internet
Apologies for the cross-posting... I'm at a complete loss as to why I no longer have the internet post 2.6.5 install. I can boot into the old 2.4.22 kernel with no ethernet problems, so I know it's not a hardware problem. Neither my ethernet card, nor my wireless card want to play nicely. I've wandered around the internet with Lynx, but I haven't come across any other posts/pages/etc that are helpful. thanks for your suggestions! emma smeagol:~ 19:49:29 $ sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop Shutting down PCMCIA services: done. smeagol:~ 19:49:46 $ sudo ifdown eth1 Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. smeagol:~ 19:49:48 $ sudo ifdown eth0 cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory smeagol:~ 19:50:23 $ iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. smeagol:~ 19:50:28 $ ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:560 (560.0 b) TX bytes:560 (560.0 b) smeagol:~ 19:50:33 $ sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia start Starting PCMCIA services: cardmgr[2318]: watching 3 sockets done. smeagol:~ 19:50:45 $ iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"Wavelan Network" Nickname:"smeagol" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457GHz Access Point: 44:44:44:44:44:44 Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 smeagol:~ 19:50:48 $ sudo ifup eth0 Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. smeagol:~ 19:50:59 $ sudo ifup eth1 ifup: interface eth1 already configured smeagol:~ 19:51:01 $ ping google.ca ping: unknown host google.ca -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless PCMCIA Card No Longer Works--Can't Identify Source of Problem
> > From what you describe, and this seems to be your assessment as well, > > it is unlikely that this is a hardware problem. And there's never been > > any instance at all of a computer error occurring in a 9000 series. > (am I missing a reference with the "9000 series"?) Oops. That's HAL, right. Never mind. -- Adam Kessel http://adam.rosi-kessel.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 LVM problem
Stephan Seitz wrote: But you need lvm2 for kernel 2.6.*. And I don't know if there is an upgrade path to use the old lvm1 with lvm2. It should be backwards-compatible, but it uses different config files. The lvm2 package doesn't contain any docs for an upgrade (or I didn't find them). Actually it works automagically, just install lvm2 and you are fine. I did it just this past weekend -- installed debian sarge from scratch using beta4 installer, with kernel 2.4, configured lvm, installed lvm2 package, compiled kernel 2.6.5, rebooted.. and lvm came up just fine. If lvm2 package is missing than you will get lvm working under 2.4 but not under 2.6. I remember reading somewhere that lvm10 and lvm2 packages are smart, they basically install proxy lvm tools which determine your kernel version and run appropriate userspace lvm tools (10 for 2.4 and 2 for 2.6). I don't remember where I've seen this information though... HTH --Kirill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless PCMCIA Card No Longer Works--Can't Identify Source of Problem
> Do you happen to remember what you did just before it stopped working? Or > do you at least remember whether you had just upgraded or recompiled your > kernel? This would most likely be the easiest route to identifying the > problem. Right. I have a kernel built with identical options on another machine where the card still works. I also booted into an earlier kernel on the machine where the card isn't working and it still didn't work, I'm almost certain the card used to work on that kernel. > Can you otherwise modprobe or insmod the atmel_cs module successfully? Yes, I can modprobe/insmod atmel_cs, and it shows up in lsmod, but is unused (Used by 0). > It's not clear from your post which kernel you know (currently, and for > certain) that the card is working on, and which kernel it is not > working on? I read you to be saying that you have tried both a 2.6.4 > kernel and a 2.6.5 kernel on this system, and the card fails to work > under both. The card is working on another system (same exact model--HP OmniBook 500) on 2.6.5. > This appears to be an external module; I don't recognize the smc.conf > file. Are you certain that the version you are using is reported by the > distributor to work with the kernel you are attempting to run it under? Yes. As I understood it, I needed to create a custom smc.conf for this card's manfid to get it to load the modules. The smc.conf didn't change from the time that it was working and that it wasn't working. > From what you describe, and this seems to be your assessment as well, > it is unlikely that this is a hardware problem. And there's never been > any instance at all of a computer error occurring in a 9000 series. (am I missing a reference with the "9000 series"?) It's weird. At this point, I have two nearly identical laptops, but running more-or-less Debian unstable (some experimental packages on the one that's *not* broken), and the WiFi card works on one but not the other. So I would be tempted to think there *is* hardware malfunction on the other, but the modem card works on that one, so it can't be that the PCMCIA slot is totally dead. I guess I would appreciate suggestions for how to narrow this down to hardware or software, and/or anything else with the software... -- Adam Kessel http://adam.rosi-kessel.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make-kpkg -revision
Have read a few kernel build howto amd was wondering is there anything wrong with just using EXTRAVERSION rather than -revision. It seems better as you can tell whitch kernel you are using from uname -a. I'me a bit parinoid and after I install a new kernel it is very reasuring to be able to rerify whitch is working this way. Ben-- Ben Edwards - currently in Bournemouth http://www.gurtlush.org.uk - weblog http://www.cultureshop.org - buy alternative video -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure OS's
hi ya paul there is NO such thing as secure OS .. esp in linux-land and openbsd enjoying their ability to be more secure than other *nix - somebody can always get in if they wanted to On Mon, 10 May 2004, dircha wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I guess what I mean by a secure os is an os whose packages themselves > > are secure, obviously if someone doesn't set up a server securely, it > > doesn't matter how secure the packages are. Like wise, if a person > > set up a server keeping security as a priority, all their efforts are > > for naught if the package is built insecurely, (like the common > > buffer overflow). buffer overflow is relatively trivial to fix in comparason to other security issues ( you have the source code to review and put your stamp of approval on tit - so to speak ) - ie ... write a tool or use a tool to check for buffer overflow > > I know that debian releases security patches that solve many of these > > issues, when the come up. and that security patches are good ... best thing to happen along with everybody else that puts out patches and fixes and warnings > However, this process leads me to believe > > that the packages in general are not built with security in mind congrats !! ... security is usually not the 1st priority when writing code and if you notice, even supposed secure code still require security patches and fixes because nobody can forsee any problems "once" and requires constant review > > How important of an issue do you guys feel this is and do you think > > projects like bastille are important towards this effort? for me, its not important i use my own smurfy goofy rules for security and work backwards automated tools are good ...but it will miss other important security issues > Also, I > > do not know of any other debian compatible security packages and > > would love to learn more about them. what kind of security issues are you looking to solve ?? ( upgrades ==> improve its security - compared to its default distro ) --- - is your door locked ? to the where the supposed secure computers are --- - security policy specifications ( computer and people management ) ? - kernel security upgrades ?? - ssh/ssl security upgrades ?? - apache seucrity upgrades ? - mta security upgrades ? - file system upgrades ? - user-land whackyness upgrades ? - vpn security upgrades ? ... on and on ... its a 24x7 full time job if security is an issue, than in my world of security, you cannot be using these apps/methodology - telnet, ftp, pop3, imap, - dhcp, wireless, vpn - laptops .. easiest way to break ones security policy and if security is an issue ... you will have lots of layers of security policies that if the INTERNAL or external [h/cr]acker gets thru one vulnerability, they can have fun playing there, but they have to have another skill set to get pass the next hurdle > Whether or not a software application itself is security-minded is > primarily a judgment call about the application's developers, its > security model, and its maturity. yup c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla firefox, mozilla thunderbird and kde-3.2.2
* Mal Beaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-05-09 17:23]: > can anyone point me where I can look further to change these settings so > that > email link selected from webbrowser opens up in mozilla-thunderbird > web link selected from email opens up in mozilla-firefox > > thanks Hi Mal, Take a look at update-alternatives Regards, Paul -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: OT: Viruses on lists
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 09:22:41PM +0100, Jonathan Matthews wrote: | Paul Johnson had the gall to say: | > "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | [snip] | > > Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager | > > (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is | > > running). The list manager then counts that against you in its | > > determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed | > > from the list. | > | > It takes quite a few bounces before you get removed, though. True. Whether or not you get booted depends on the signal-to-noise ratio on the list for a given time period. (Some MLMs use a flat-rate cutoff and some are time- or quantity-based) | Does anyone know a definitive figure or rate here? Not offhand. I do know that the list manager will, as a last-ditch attempt, send you a notification that you are being removed from the list. | > > My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit | > > messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply | > > removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the | > > world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, | > > particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that | > > case. | | Drop /after/ accepting? Yes. | Would that not mark you (in the virus' eyes, | anyway) as a potential target? What with viruses having their own | builtin SMTP engines these days and hence knowing for sure what response | was given to the SMTP session, is that not potentially inviting future, | smarter viruses (with memories for this sort of thing) to hit you first? Hmm, we'll see when the time comes :-). | > Which is why I reject at SMTP. Doesn't push a bounce back to forged | > addresses. | | I should have said - I've followed Paul's instructions on ursine.ca to | set this up, and am consequently rejecting at SMTP time. | | I'm unsure as to the difference between accepting a mail and bouncing | later and rejecting at SMTP time as far as murphy is concerned. (I'm | fine with the general difference for normal mail.) Can anyone venture | an opinion? The difference is network and processing overhead. If you reject the message, then your machine never actually places it on the queue and never has to process it later. Similarly, murphy has already opened a network connection to your machine and is told right then-and-there that you won't take the message. OTOH if you bounce after accepting the message, then your system has a bounce on the queue which it must process later. Your system must open a network connection to murphy and give it a new message to deliver to the MLM's bounce handler. | Do both bounces | (is it correct to call a 5xx reject a "bounce"?) No. A bounce is a new message, generated by a mail server, sent to the (envelope) sender to inform them of a delivery failure. A 5xx reject is refusal on the part of the receiving mail server to get its hands dirty. | count similarly negatively when working out who shouldn't be on the | list anymore? Yes. | Should I stop asking questions (sort of like this one?) inside other | questions? Well, it does make in-line repsonses a little more difficult :-). Note that I don't really care much whether you reject or discard viruses. Just be aware of the implications of each option and make a choice. Whatever you do, though, don't bounce or send "friendly" alerts to addresses found anywhere near the message (header or envelope). It really is quite annoying to get "you sent me a virus" messages when I have done nothing of the sort. HAND, -D -- Yes, Java is so bulletproofed that to a C programmer it feels like being in a straightjacket, but it's a really comfy and warm straightjacket, and the world would be a safer place if everyone was straightjacketed most of the time. -- Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
> > I use the storage method to read my MiniDV camcorder memory (Sony memory > stick). With hotplug, I don't need to worry about any entry in > /etc/fstab and no need to mount or unmount the device. I would use > gphoto2 with Sony camcorder too, if only it would let me :) > Any camera which uses the USB mass storage method should work just fine, as it can be mounted as any disc, in /camera, for instance, if you have defined it in your fstab. Then you can display, copy , delete, whatever file you want, I have a Minolta Dimage Z1, and it works nicely. I could not use gphoto2 or digikam, though. I could not find configuration options to tell my camera used USB mass storage, or, if there was an option, it did not work for me. So in the end I'm just mounting/unmounting the camera, and moving files from command line. In my case, I don't mind not having a GUI, since I later upload all files to another machine and then organize them with gallery. Regards, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recovering data from a corrupted disk
Hello everyone. An IDE hard disk I have has just got corrupted. I've been able to salvage all my personal data before its last "breath" but I still need to get the Debian package list from it. "gpart" has no success in recovering the partition table I'm testing now with "testdisk". I don't know if I'll be able to recover the partition table with this program so I'm open to ideas regarding other (free and not-free) tools as well as other ideas in order for me to recover my package list. Thanks in advance. Vitor
RE: HD recovery & debian installation mirroring (& others)
Thanks again! :) I'll do that! But in the meanwhile i'm testing the "testdisk" program to see if it can find the partitions, since gpart is not doing anything. It would be easier if I could chroot to the partition and run the dpkg -l or something like that. -Mensagem original- De: dircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: seg 2004-05-10 22:58 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Assunto: Re: HD recovery & debian installation mirroring (& others) Paladin wrote: > I'm sorry for this type of mail, but I can only use webmail... > > I don't think I will be able to get that file now... unless doing > some hard recovery of the disk. I was able, in the begining, to read > the full disk and I did a "dpkg --get-selections" and saved the > result, but I think this won't be enough, right? Hrm. So far as I know dpkg --get-selections should be the same as dpkg -l, which lists all currently installed packages. The output from both is identical on the system I am sending this from. > I have a operable Debian system, I'm using it to try to recover the > disk. But without that file maybe I could grep it? Does recover > work on a disk without partitions? I'm sure there are many sophisticated tools for recovering data from faulty disks and corrupted file systems, but I have no experience with them. You can, however, use the "dd" command to get at the raw binary data and then see whether you can track down the file you need. But I'd recommend against this. Instead, you might want to start a new thread (or rename this one) with a name like "Recovering data from a corrupted disk". Good luck. dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 and nvidia
Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > I've now got the nvidia modules loading under 2.6.5 (hurrah!). This is > what I did (in order), although I'm not sure which are the important > parts: > > apt-get install udev > /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx start > cd /lib/modules/2.6.5.dilbert/nvidia > modprobe nvidia > > I must say...the touch pad is WAY more sensitive now. I'm not sure if > I like it or not I'm going to have to relearn how to drive the > cursor. ;) > > emma Try adding something like this to Section "InputDevice" of the XF86Config file: Option "Resolution" "256" You can then change the number to affect the speed of the mouse. or you can use "xset m 4 1" in your /.xinitrc where 4 is the mouse acceleration as compared to the default speed and 1 is the threshold (1 means disable the threshold) More in the man page of xset Regards, Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HD recovery & debian installation mirroring (& others)
Paladin wrote: I'm sorry for this type of mail, but I can only use webmail... I don't think I will be able to get that file now... unless doing some hard recovery of the disk. I was able, in the begining, to read the full disk and I did a "dpkg --get-selections" and saved the result, but I think this won't be enough, right? Hrm. So far as I know dpkg --get-selections should be the same as dpkg -l, which lists all currently installed packages. The output from both is identical on the system I am sending this from. I have a operable Debian system, I'm using it to try to recover the disk. But without that file maybe I could grep it? Does recover work on a disk without partitions? I'm sure there are many sophisticated tools for recovering data from faulty disks and corrupted file systems, but I have no experience with them. You can, however, use the "dd" command to get at the raw binary data and then see whether you can track down the file you need. But I'd recommend against this. Instead, you might want to start a new thread (or rename this one) with a name like "Recovering data from a corrupted disk". Good luck. dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BT Voyager 1010 (or Linksys WUSB11)
Ron wrote: Jonathan Melhuish wrote: There must surely be a table that translates these numeric codes into the right driver to load - anyone got any idea where it is? Yeah, I got an idea where it is. It is in the driver. Look at at76c503-rfmd.c of your berlios source directory. Your vendor 0x69a is there as dyna link, but your product 0x821 is not. At least this is the case in my version from back in December. I got a chuckle earlier, but this is your chance to modify that puppy and reconfigure. I'd just follow the convention that exists in the file for WUSB11. Wa-hey! Looks like I got it working! :-) May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 23 May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: $Id: at76c503.c,v 1.35 2003/07/30 06:31:51 jal2 Exp $ compiled May 9 2004 16:15:33 May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: firmware version 0.90.0 #44 (fcs_len 4) May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: device's MAC 00:90:99:45:19:51, regulatory domain MKK1 (Japan) (id 65) May 10 22:36:55 laptop kernel: at76c503.c: registered wlan0 It was actually the at76c503-i3861 driver that it uses. It seems to vary; both of them seem to be listed for Linksys WUSB11! There's a big table of Amtel devices here: http://at76c503a.berlios.de/devices.html Anyway, once I found that out, it was just a matter of adding the appropriate USB vendor/product ID to the driver. Here's the diff: --- at76c503-i3861.c~ 2003-11-30 01:05:35.0 + +++ at76c503-i3861.c2004-05-10 22:31:20.0 +0100 @@ -72,6 +72,9 @@ #define VENDOR_ID_DYNALINK0x069a #define PRODUCT_ID_DYNALINK_WLL013_I 0x0320 /* Dynalink/Askey WLL013 (intersil) */ +#define VENDOR_ID_BT0x069a +#define PRODUCT_ID_BT_VOYAGER_1010 0x0821 /* BT Voyager 1010 */ + #define VENDOR_ID_SMC 0x0d5c #define PRODUCT_ID_SMC2662W_V10xa001 /* EZ connect 11Mpbs Wireless USB Adapter SMC2662W (v1) */ @@ -101,6 +104,7 @@ { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_HP, PRODUCT_ID_HP_HN210W ) }, { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_M4Y750, PRODUCT_ID_M4Y750) }, { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_DYNALINK, PRODUCT_ID_DYNALINK_WLL013_I ) }, + { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_BT, PRODUCT_ID_BT_VOYAGER_1010 ) }, { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_SMC, PRODUCT_ID_SMC2662W_V1 ) }, { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_BENQ, PRODUCT_ID_BENQ_AWL_300 ) }, { USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_ADDTRON, PRODUCT_ID_ADDTRON_AWU120) }, I'll send it to the Amtel driver guys, so that hopefully it'll be "plug and play" in future. Wow, my first real contribution to the open source community! 8-) Cheers, Jon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with cdroms and sarge
Apparently, _Brent Bailey_, on 05/10/04 17:12,typed: I'm having a couple of problems with my sarge installation. I can't seem to mount the cdrom or cdrw. $mount /dev/hdd mount: /dev/hdd is not a valid block device What does "ls -l /" give? What does "ls -l /dev/hdd" give? What does "ls -l /dev/cdrom" give? Do you belong to the 'cdrom' group? What does "lsmod" give? ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery failure ++ Livraison interrompue.
Automatic E.Mail reply message : The E.Mail message that you have sent to : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with subject : Important will not be delivered because : - the content of the subject line is identified as possible Mail Spam OR, - the file attachments could propagate computer viruses. If you wish to send the E.Mail message again, we suggest that you do the following : - change the subject line to reflect a clear and appropriate business communication OR, - scan your computer against viruses. Security, Agriculture Canada. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ Réponse automatique aux courriers électronique : Le courrier électronique que vous avez expédié à : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ayant pour objet : Important ne sera pas livré parce que : - le contenu de l'objet a été identifié comme étant un polluriel potentiel OU, - les pièces jointes pourraient propager des virus informatiques. Si vous avez l'intention de faire parvenir ce courriel, nous vous suggèrons : - de changer le contenu de l'objet de façon à exprimer une communication d'affaire OU, - de scruter votre ordinateur avec un programme anti-virus. Sécurité, Agriculture Canada. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems with cdroms and sarge
I'm having a couple of problems with my sarge installation. I can't seem to mount the cdrom or cdrw. $mount /dev/hdd mount: /dev/hdd is not a valid block device The fstab file looks like this: proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sda9 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/sda1 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda5 /usrext3defaults0 2 /dev/sda6 /varext3defaults0 2 /dev/sda7 /tmpext3defaults0 2 /dev/sda8 /home ext3defaults0 2 /dev/hdd/media/cdromiso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdd/media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdc/media/cdrom1 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0/media/floppy autorw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdd/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 when I punch in dmesg I get a lot of the following: ut (1) in compat_write_block_pio DMA write timed out parport0: FIFO is stuck parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio ... repeated many times ... DMA write timed out parport0: FIFO is stuck parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio DMA write timed out parport0: BUSY timeout (-4) in compat_write_block_pio parport0: BUSY timeout (-4) in compat_write_block_pio apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI. apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI. apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI. hub 1-1:1.0: port 3 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...<6>usb 1-1.3: USB disconnect, address 7 usb 1-1.3: new low speed USB device using address 8 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [062a:] on usb-:00:02.1-1.3 eth0: received irq with unknown events 0x1. Please report ... repeated many times ... eth0: received irq with unknown events 0x1. Please report I don't know what DMA is. I take it that parport0 is my parallel port, but nothing is connected to it (which might be why FIFO (first in first out?) is stuck) Is there a way that I can dpkg-reconfigure my cdroms? I know that they work (they were used to install sarge and still play music out of the headphone jack) Any help would be appreciated, Brent -- Scanned by ClamAv - http://www.clamav.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unable to install "woody" on i386
slmpe wrote: I seem to be unable to install Debian 3.0 on my computer. That is to say: everyting goes without any problems. After the end of the installation-process I am asked to log in. I do this and again sucessfull. Then I type "startx" and I get the message: "x connection to: 0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" Furthermore I read "no screen" Note: Installing Debian and installing X are two totally different things. You have successfully installed Debian, or you wouldn't be able to login and type "startx". What you haven't successfully installed and/or configured is X (the X Window System). You should be able to find a log of the X attempt in /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Look in that file for any lines that begin with (WW) and (EE). Those are the lines that should provide the info needed for fixing your problem. The error message you posted above are generic messages that are essentially meaningless. Probably what has happened is that your video settings are incorrect, and there are "no screen" settings defined in your X setup that work with your hardware. These settings are stored in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Although you can manually edit this file by hand, as a general rule you want to avoide doing that on Debian systems and instead run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86". Some things to pay attention to are the video chipset driver ("ati" vs "vesa" vs "nv", etc), the horizontal/vertical refresh rates, the resolutions you want to try to use, and the number of colors. You may want to try dropping your resolution/colors to see if you can make any progress. At any rate, post the error messages in the log as I mention above; that'll go a lot farther toward helping us to help you. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Viruses on lists
Paul Johnson had the gall to say: > "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > > Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager > > (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is > > running). The list manager then counts that against you in its > > determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed > > from the list. > > It takes quite a few bounces before you get removed, though. Does anyone know a definitive figure or rate here? > > My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit > > messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply > > removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the > > world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, > > particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that > > case. Drop /after/ accepting? Would that not mark you (in the virus' eyes, anyway) as a potential target? What with viruses having their own builtin SMTP engines these days and hence knowing for sure what response was given to the SMTP session, is that not potentially inviting future, smarter viruses (with memories for this sort of thing) to hit you first? > Which is why I reject at SMTP. Doesn't push a bounce back to forged > addresses. I should have said - I've followed Paul's instructions on ursine.ca to set this up, and am consequently rejecting at SMTP time. I'm unsure as to the difference between accepting a mail and bouncing later and rejecting at SMTP time as far as murphy is concerned. (I'm fine with the general difference for normal mail.) Can anyone venture an opinion? Do both bounces (is it correct to call a 5xx reject a "bounce"?) count similarly negatively when working out who shouldn't be on the list anymore? Should I stop asking questions (sort of like this one?) inside other questions? Answers on a postcard, please ... Cheers, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord error
--- Peter Rohrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Changing the append statement and running lilo didn't work. You must ensure in addition to that, that you're loading the "ide-scsi" module (and its faithful follwer "sg" at boot). Check that they're listed in the file: /etc/modules and if not, add them to it. -- Thomas Adam = "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net " We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord error
Changing the append statement and running lilo didn't work. I know that I did get cdrecord to work on this box under Solaris X86. ( that's how i burned the debian CD's). I really don't want to re-install Solaris x86. I want to run debian, and I need cdrecord to work on it. Might you have any other suggestions? When I installed Debian, I installed the idepci flavor. Should I re-install with the vanilla flavor? Pete On Fri, 7 May 2004, Peter Rohrman wrote: > Thomas, > > I'll give it a try. Thank you. I'll let you know how I made out. > > Peter Rohrman > > > > On Fri, 7 May 2004, [iso-8859-1] Thomas Adam wrote: > > > --- Peter Rohrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > TUGGY:/home/pete/cobalt# cdrecord -scanbus > > > Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jrg Schilling > > > cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. > > > cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you > > > are > > > root. > > > TUGGY:/home/pete/cobalt# > > > > You need to ensure that the module "ide-scsi" is loaded, and that your > > CDRW drive is able to make use of it. For lilo, you can add: > > > > append="ide-scsi=/dev/XXX" > > > > where /dev/XXX is the device of your CDRW drive. Then don't forget to run > > "lilo". If you're using GRUB, you'll need to edit the /vmlinuz line such > > that: > > > > /vmlinuz ide-scsi=/dev/XXX > > > > Then reboot. > > > > -- Thomas Adam > > > > = > > "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net > > "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net > > > > " We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish > > you for all of them at once when you get better. The > > experience will probably kill you. :)" > > > > -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HD recovery & debian installation mirroring (& others)
I'm sorry for this type of mail, but I can only use webmail... I don't think I will be able to get that file now... unless doing some hard recovery of the disk. I was able, in the begining, to read the full disk and I did a "dpkg --get-selections" and saved the result, but I think this won't be enough, right? I have a operable Debian system, I'm using it to try to recover the disk. But without that file maybe I could grep it? Does recover work on a disk without partitions? :/ Thanks -Mensagem original- De: dircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: seg 2004-05-10 18:00 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Assunto: Re: HD recovery & debian installation mirroring (& others) Paladin wrote: > Where can I get a detailed list of all packages installed and how can > I use it to reinstall Debian? And, if its in /var, what programas do > you suggest me to use for recovering this directory from the broken > HD? Since Saturday its state has just got worse and even gpart > doesn't recognize the partitions due to some bad sectors! /var/lib/dpkg/status Look for packages with a "Status:" field of "install ok installed". The "Package:" field is the name of the package. Do you have an operable Debian system that you can look at to get the format of records in this file so that you can write up a quick script to do it for you? Can you still mount the partition? dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unable to install "woody" on i386
--- slmpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to be unable to install Debian 3.0 on my computer. That is to > "x connection to: 0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" > > Furthermore I read > > "no screen" This error has nothing to do with the installation of debian. For starters, debian has nothing to do with configuring or using X for that matter during install, and secondly, installation has already completed by the time you get around to this. I would re-run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and do things properly. Beforehand though, make sure you look at the output that: lspci gives you, and obtain both the BUSID and the correct make of your chipset for the graphics card you have. -- Thomas Adam = "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net " We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Delivery (failure customerservice@clubmosaico.com) [#3295091]
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unable to install "woody" on i386
I seem to be unable to install Debian 3.0 on my computer. That is to say: everyting goes without any problems. After the end of the installation-process I am asked to log in. I do this and again sucessfull. Then I type "startx" and I get the message: "x connection to: 0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" Furthermore I read "no screen" I hope some of you can give an easy solution. I gave up. I tried a lot. Pieter Kristensen Netherlands
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
Apparently, _Antonio Rodriguez_, on 05/10/04 14:35,typed: On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:27:18PM -0400, H. S. wrote: Apparently, _Elie De Brauwer_, on 05/10/04 13:55,typed: I have a hp photosmart 735, on the camera i can configure it so it behaves as a usb storage device which can be mounted like any pendrive. Haven't tried any other setting (why should I as long as i can view my pictures), I'm also using gqview for browsing them. greetings I use the storage method to read my MiniDV camcorder memory (Sony memory stick). With hotplug, I don't need to worry about any entry in /etc/fstab and no need to mount or unmount the device. I would use gphoto2 with Sony camcorder too, if only it would let me :) ->HS Are you using udev? I also have a sony minidvd, and I didn't have any problem using the memory stick until I installed udev. Since then, I haven't figured out how to use my memory stick. I manage by streaming the pics through the USB2 port. Just wandering, and hoping you would have some ideas to share. thank you. Nope, I don't have udev (at least not on the Sarge box; I should check the box running Sid). Have you tried searching google for this sort of a problem? Try these for starters: http://freedesktop.org/pipermail/xdg/2004-April/003766.html http://www.livejournal.com/users/brad/1984865.html and of course you should try searching google groups if you haven't done so already. GL, ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
Walter Tautz wrote > any other recommendations, especially stuff to avoid. > > walter I've got a Casio QV-R40 It's USB connectable, looks like a USB drive. Also, it uses SD memory cards, so if you've got a card reader you can get the pictures that way also. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
On Mon, 10 May 2004 10:24:43 -0700 "Rodney D. Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > any other recommendations, especially stuff to avoid. > > > > walter > > I have a Canon PowerShot A60, works great using gtKam Canon S45 also. -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 and nvidia
I've now got the nvidia modules loading under 2.6.5 (hurrah!). This is what I did (in order), although I'm not sure which are the important parts: apt-get install udev /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx start cd /lib/modules/2.6.5.dilbert/nvidia modprobe nvidia I must say...the touch pad is WAY more sensitive now. I'm not sure if I like it or not I'm going to have to relearn how to drive the cursor. ;) emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aol art files:
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Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:27:18PM -0400, H. S. wrote: > Apparently, _Elie De Brauwer_, on 05/10/04 13:55,typed: > > > > >I have a hp photosmart 735, on the camera i can configure it so it > >behaves as a usb storage device which can be mounted like any pendrive. > >Haven't tried any other setting (why should I as long as i can view > >my pictures), I'm also using gqview for browsing them. > > > >greetings > > I use the storage method to read my MiniDV camcorder memory (Sony memory > stick). With hotplug, I don't need to worry about any entry in > /etc/fstab and no need to mount or unmount the device. I would use > gphoto2 with Sony camcorder too, if only it would let me :) > > ->HS > Are you using udev? I also have a sony minidvd, and I didn't have any problem using the memory stick until I installed udev. Since then, I haven't figured out how to use my memory stick. I manage by streaming the pics through the USB2 port. Just wandering, and hoping you would have some ideas to share. thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [vox-tech] Galeon mime types
On 2004.05.09 19:41, Ken Bloom wrote: 'm trying to edit my Gnome MIME settings in such a way that if I click a link to a .tex file in Galeon, I can make the file open in gvim. Whenever I click a .tex file, I get the ordinary "What do you want to do with this file?" dialog box, but it doesn't list any helper applications, and the Open button is disabled. Nevertheless, I can double click a .tex file in Nautilus to make it open in gvim. Does anyone know how to edit my MIME types to make something like this work in Galeon? Answering my own question: I asked on #galeon on irc.gimp.net, and Galeon ignores file extensions and only pays attention to MIME types. My GNOME settings were configured to accept text/x-tex as a TeX file, and the web server at the other end was sending me application/x-tex. T he lesson here is to look on the internet and figure out what the correct MIME type is when you set up a file association (http://www.utoronto.ca/ian/books/html4ed/appb/mimetype.html and ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/media-types/media-types appear to be good sites for this) and to be ready to configure all of the other possibilities if different web servers send out different MIME types. -- I usually have a GPG digital signature included as an attachment. See http://www.gnupg.org/ for info about these digital signatures. My key was last signed 10/14/2003. If you use GPG *please* see me about signing the key. * My computer can't give you viruses by email. *** pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Viruses on lists
"Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Since the mail has already been received and accepted by murphy, am > | I just pushing the sending of spoofed bounce messages one stage back > | up the email processing ladder? > > Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager > (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is > running). The list manager then counts that against you in its > determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed > from the list. It takes quite a few bounces before you get removed, though. > My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit > messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply > removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the > world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, > particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that > case. Which is why I reject at SMTP. Doesn't push a bounce back to forged addresses. -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
Apparently, _Elie De Brauwer_, on 05/10/04 13:55,typed: I have a hp photosmart 735, on the camera i can configure it so it behaves as a usb storage device which can be mounted like any pendrive. Haven't tried any other setting (why should I as long as i can view my pictures), I'm also using gqview for browsing them. greetings I use the storage method to read my MiniDV camcorder memory (Sony memory stick). With hotplug, I don't need to worry about any entry in /etc/fstab and no need to mount or unmount the device. I would use gphoto2 with Sony camcorder too, if only it would let me :) ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [GLUG-tech] squid + transparent proxying + ssl prots ?
Graham Leggett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Long answer: SSL is specifically designed to prevent "man in the > middle" attacks, and setting up squid in such a way would be the same > as such a "man in the middle" attack. You might be able to > successfully achive this, but not without breaking the encryption and > certification that is the point behind SSL. Nope, you can proxy SSL without breaking it. -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
On Mon, 10 May 2004 13:43:53 -0400 "H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apparently, _Walter Tautz_, on 05/10/04 13:11,typed: > > any other recommendations, especially stuff to avoid. > > > > walter > > Canon A300 and G5 work very well using gphoto2 and gtkam. I have heard > from my friend that Nikon 4300 also works quite nicely. > > You might face some hiccups accessing your camera from USB unless you > read the intructions on how to setup hotplug for proper access > permissions. This is the file you need to read first: > /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian > > And this may complement the help: > http://nift.freeshell.org/camedia.html > > I use gqview for viewing the images (utilizes EXIF info). > > > ->HS > I have a hp photosmart 735, on the camera i can configure it so it behaves as a usb storage device which can be mounted like any pendrive. Haven't tried any other setting (why should I as long as i can view my pictures), I'm also using gqview for browsing them. greetings -- Elie De Brauwer http://www.de-brauwer.be No animals were hurt and no microsoft products were used during the creation of this e-mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [GLUG-tech] squid + transparent proxying + ssl prots ?
Mark Coetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> needs to http://learn.to/quote/: > On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Please can some one advise how to setup squid to transparently proxy ssl >> ports, it's currently proxing http with no problem.. > > you shouldnt cache secure connections? the whole point behind ssl is for > the connection to be established between host and server and no middle > man That's exactly it, though squid is capable of proxying https and other kinds of requests. Just not transparently. -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Viruses on lists
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 09:59:45AM +0100, Jonathan Matthews wrote: | Evenin' all. | | I've installed ClamAV+Exim4 to reject viruses at SMTP time. d-u's | headers don't seem to mention anything about /virus/ scanning (as | opposed to SpamAssassin), so I guess I'm ok asking this question here: | | The whole point of having virus scanning while the sender still has an | open connection is a) to reduce email processing load on your system and Well, virus scanning is increased processing (as compared to no content scanning) and when done during the smtp session -could- lead to Denial of Service. | b) to reduce bounces to forged headers - which must be sent if the email | is accepted and only scanned later. Agreed. | I'm fine with (a) - I think that still holds - | but is (b) incorrect when dealing with listmail? Pretty much. | Since the mail has already been received and accepted by murphy, am | I just pushing the sending of spoofed bounce messages one stage back | up the email processing ladder? Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is running). The list manager then counts that against you in its determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed from the list. | Is it an unfriendly thing to do to murphy - should I be whitelisting | it instead? It's up to you, now that you know the consequences. My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that case. I do, however, reject messages with certain spam-like characteristics (for example, invalid sender domain). As a result, one of the lists I subscribe to periodically sends me a "probe" to see if my address really is invalid. Of course, the probe works and I am not removed from the list, but it is still annoying and wasteful of resources. | Any thoughts on this, or how to configure the exceptions inside Exim | would be appreciated! This depends on how your av scanner is run. I think exiscan has its own ACL directive so you can put whatever condition you like on it. -D -- "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." --Jim Elliot www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: print to a hp lj 5l through tcp/ip
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:36:50PM +0200, LeVA wrote: | Hi! | | I have a hp laserjet 5l printer in my network, and listens on tcp port | 9100. A few month ago (when I used woody), I could use the socket:// | protocoll to connect to it. But after I've upgraded to sarge, I can not | even select the tcp/ip protocoll when I'm adding a new printer. I can | only choose from smb, and lpt. | Anyone know how to use this kind of printer? Perhaps you need to run dpkg-reconfigure -plow cupsys and select 'socket' as one of the "enabled" backends. -D -- A wise servant will rule over a disgraceful son, and will share the inheritance as one of the brothers. Proverbs 17:2 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: edit pdf's
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:45:19PM -0400, Matt Price wrote: > hey folks, > > I have a bunch of pdf's I'd like to print out, scanned from > small-paged books. I'd like to print them out two-to-a-page, but > they've been saved with lots of blank space around the text; so when I > just try > > lpr -o number-up=2 > > I get very very tiny type. I'd like to somehow strip the blank space > away from the original files... but I have no idea whether it's > posswible to do that in, say, a text editor, by editing some of the > readable text. Anyone have any other idea how it might be done? Is > there a program lurking out there that might work (apt-cache didn't > seem to find anything). > > thanks much, > m The way I would do it: 1. pdf2ps in.pdf out.ps 2. convert out.ps out1.jpg 3. Open out1.jpg with gimp See on the screen what are the coordinates of the area that you want to crop. Write them down. 4. convert -crop (see man convert) -resize (may be needed, don't know) out1.jpg out2.ps 5. ps2pdf out2.ps final.pdf 6. rm out* You may need to play with psnup, pstops (check that) to insert some step between 4 and 5, perhaps to get 2 pages in one, as wanted by you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: edit pdf's
--- Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there a program lurking out there that might work (apt-cache didn't > seem to find anything). Then you were using it incorrectly. I'd use pdf2html, edit the HTML, and convert it back again. Ugly, perhaps. But it might do what you want. -- Thomas Adam = "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net " We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
Apparently, _Walter Tautz_, on 05/10/04 13:11,typed: any other recommendations, especially stuff to avoid. walter Canon A300 and G5 work very well using gphoto2 and gtkam. I have heard from my friend that Nikon 4300 also works quite nicely. You might face some hiccups accessing your camera from USB unless you read the intructions on how to setup hotplug for proper access permissions. This is the file you need to read first: /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/README.Debian And this may complement the help: http://nift.freeshell.org/camedia.html I use gqview for viewing the images (utilizes EXIF info). ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure OS's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess what I mean by a secure os is an os whose packages themselves are secure, obviously if someone doesn't set up a server securely, it doesn't matter how secure the packages are. Like wise, if a person set up a server keeping security as a priority, all their efforts are for naught if the package is built insecurely, (like the common buffer overflow). I know that debian releases security patches that solve many of these issues, when the come up. However, this process leads me to believe that the packages in general are not built with security in mind (which makes sense because most people programming an editor are probably not terribly concerned about curious users monkeying around with their programs too much). How important of an issue do you guys feel this is and do you think projects like bastille are important towards this effort? Also, I do not know of any other debian compatible security packages and would love to learn more about them. Whether or not a software application itself is security-minded is primarily a judgment call about the application's developers, its security model, and its maturity. You say, "all their efforts are for naught if the package is built insecurely, (like the common buffer overflow)". This is usually not the domain of the distribution or packager. When 99.9% (eh?) of the development work is done by the upstream developer, looking elsewhere to make security judgments about the software would seem to be a mistake. Just because a software application has been packaged in a distribution for 6 years, does not mean that it is in any way secure or even "more secure". It may have a user base of 10 people. That the software is available as a .deb tells you very little beyond an expectation that it will be version compatible with the rest of the distribution. The distribution package - the .deb - is security neutral. Further, I do not believe there is a 1:1 correspondence between software which is packaged and software which it is worthwhile to divert people resources to for development or testing. Shouldn't development and testing resources be allocated by the upstream developers and those who fund them? dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
On Mon, 10 May 2004 13:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Walter Tautz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > any other recommendations, especially stuff to avoid. > > walter I have a Canon PowerShot A60, works great using gtKam -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Recommendation on Digital Cameras that work well with linux....and...
any other recommendations, especially stuff to avoid. walter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting audio cds....
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:14:32AM -0700, Beretta wrote: > BeOS also had a cdfs driver that allowed for direct ripping of cd audio tracks > via a similar method. What the hell is wrong with using this patch to accomplish > that? You, too, should read the discussion of the patch, where it's revealed that it does no error correction, no jitter correction, and no ability to deal with a scratched disc. It allows through all the problems that applications like cdparanoia were created to fix. I reiterate, if you're going to rip the disc, then get on with it already and rip the disc. -- Marc Wilson | University politics are vicious precisely because [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the stakes are so small. -- C. P. Snow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HD recovery & debian installation mirroring (& others)
Paladin wrote: Where can I get a detailed list of all packages installed and how can I use it to reinstall Debian? And, if its in /var, what programas do you suggest me to use for recovering this directory from the broken HD? Since Saturday its state has just got worse and even gpart doesn't recognize the partitions due to some bad sectors! /var/lib/dpkg/status Look for packages with a "Status:" field of "install ok installed". The "Package:" field is the name of the package. Do you have an operable Debian system that you can look at to get the format of records in this file so that you can write up a quick script to do it for you? Can you still mount the partition? dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
edit pdf's
hey folks, I have a bunch of pdf's I'd like to print out, scanned from small-paged books. I'd like to print them out two-to-a-page, but they've been saved with lots of blank space around the text; so when I just try lpr -o number-up=2 I get very very tiny type. I'd like to somehow strip the blank space away from the original files... but I have no idea whether it's posswible to do that in, say, a text editor, by editing some of the readable text. Anyone have any other idea how it might be done? Is there a program lurking out there that might work (apt-cache didn't seem to find anything). thanks much, m -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: error while processing console-common_0.7.41_all.deb
Apparently, _Xavier Pitz_, on 05/04/04 10:36,typed: In-Reply-To=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I have the same problem. Exactly the same symptoms, the same package produces the same error, so I'm not able to apt-get upgrade. Verry anoying. Is there a way to apt-get update everything exept one package ? What I did was: $> apt-get -s upgrade (this shows what packages are to be upgaded) $> apt-get install And by not including console-common in the list I leave it alone and it remains in its current stage. Of course a more flexible method is using by dselect. In dselect you can choose which packages should not touched and should be 'held' in current state. ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ppp/diald networking dying under heavy IDE (or CPU?) load
> > Could it be by any chance that the NIC and the ide controller > and also the > > serial port controller are hooked up on the same IRQ? > > At least according to /proc/interrupts, the serial port doesn't seem to > be sharing interrupts: > > # more /proc/interrupts > CPU0 CPU1 >0:1924074 0 XT-PIC timer >1: 13204 0 XT-PIC keyboard >2: 0 0 XT-PIC cascade >3: 490726 0 XT-PIC serial >5: 0 0 XT-PIC eth0 >8: 3 0 XT-PIC rtc > 10: 0 0 XT-PIC CMI8738-MC6 > 11: 53222 0 XT-PIC ide2, ide3 > 12: 125384 0 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse > 14:3696354 0 XT-PIC ide0 > 15: 121555 0 XT-PIC ide1 > NMI: 0 0 > LOC:19229001924053 > ERR: 3287 > MIS: 0 > # > Try it this way pls. Directly after your BIOS has loaded you'll get a list with all your devices & their path on the PCI bus and also on the right the irqs which are used by the devices, what does this tell you? To stop the loading process simply press pause :-) Are there any devices which share/have the same number? > I was thinking that it was only disks on my ide0 and ide1 controllers > (ports?) (for which I had disabled DMA to avoid horrible file system > corruption) that were involved with network problems, but I need to see > if things differ for disks on my ide2 and ide3 controllers (a Promise > Ultra100/TX2 card). > Hmh, I don't quite get that, do you mean you've got an ide pci card of some sort? The thing is, at least with older machines that the bus speed is not high enough, so getting lots of network pakets and using an additional ide pci card (even worse on a shared slot) could cause such an effect. Intense work on 4 harddiscs and 1 or 2 network cards, could result in high cpu usage and, how to say that? high bus activity.! Which also means that Requests from other "lower" devices on the systembus are "dropped" at least held back. It's not so easy to explain it in English, I hope you get what I mean :/ > I am getting occasional "kernel: PPP: VJ decompression error" in my > logs. Might that result from dropped characters from a buffer > overrun (e.g., if the CPU is too busy doing PIO disk I/O to service > the serial port frequently enough)? > Sorry I don't know anything about PPP :-( Simmel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Functions or aliases?
George Cristian Birzan wrote: On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 10:12:17AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2004-05-08 22:00:38 -0400, alex wrote: alias win+='mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1; cd /mnt/hda1; ls -aF --color=auto'(This is located in /root/.bashrc) [...] I've read that aliases should be limited to simpler commands such as: alias cd..='cd ..' or alias lsl='ls -l' and that aliases like my win+ should be structered as a function instead of an alias. I agree. Not really. You only need functions when doing more complex things. You can only get the arguments passed when using a functions, and you can only 'return' when using a function. Oh. About unmounting, you could try something like: alias win-='puhsd ~/; unmout /dev/hda1; popd', so you get back to where you were when you run it. I presume you meant pushd instead of puhsd. I just ran a trial on this tip and it doesn't seem to return to the state before win+ was executed -- /mnt/hda1 remains in the prompt. I've never had a problem with alias win-='cd; umount /mnt/hda1' so I guess I'll stay with it. alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firestarter 0.9.3
On Saturday 08 May 2004 3:44 pm, Rene Engelhard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > Rene Engelhard wrote: > > Looks like it :/ > > [...] > > > Maybe. > > Got an idea. Hope to fix it RSN. > > Grüße/Regards, > > René thanks rene the lastest version works great :)
Re: Re: error while processing console-common_0.7.41_all.deb
Same thing for me. Does someone know how to bypass this pkg ? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is there a good article anyone has used for getting wccp to work with squid? Or has anyone got it working and remember the steps? Thanks. This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify us immediately. Thank you.
Re: PS/2 Mouse Problem!
Kent West wrote: > If you do, you'll need to run "gpmconfig" and configure it to repeat the > data as "ms", then reconfigure X to pull the data from "/dev/gpmdata". The only repeat data type that works for me is 'raw'. (shrug) Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mouse doesnt work in console
Andres LG wrote: > I installed mousedev with modconf, but it didnt change my X config > file, it is still /dev/psaux. The 'mousedev' is a kernel module. The file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is a config file for XFree86. Installing a kernel module is not going to do anything to your config files. Why would you think it would? The xserver-xfree86 package contains a configuration script for X. You may or may not use it depending upon how you configured it. If you used it to configure X then you may use it to reconfigure it. But if you have been editing the file by hand then DO NOT use the configuration script or your changes will be lost. In that case you should set the first question to NO saying that you are managing the file manually. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6 and nvidia
On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 03:33, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 03:19:18AM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > > that works. (What's the new stuff in the kernel that has to do with screen > > resolution? I probably messed up somewhere around there...when I did my > > make oldconfig) Here is my Odyssey of 2.6.x: It actually started with me installing 2.6.0-test(something) and udev quite a while ago (in internet terms a while ago). Every Freaking time I installed udev, everything just died. udev went bye-bye every-time I tried it, mainly cause I didn't have time to mess with it. So, here I go and actually build an exact replica of the Herbert Xu Debian Kernel 2.6.5-1(2.6.5-4 revision) .deb and headers.deb and an nvidia-modules.deb (1.0-5336). (I rather like to do this :) I can post my madness^Wmethods for everyone to see, if anyone cares to see it. I installed the kernel, nvidia, udev and VMware I was determined to make it work. As neither the nvidia or vmware modules put info in the sysfs BTW put this into your fstab: sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 none /sys/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0 It is needed to really make the whole process work better. I still am using hotplug, so I removed discover(1 and 2) as hotplug and discover overlap something fierce. Well, I ended up having to add "nvidia" and "ide-cd" to /etc/modules and make a script that created the udev nodes every-time (as neither nvidia or VMware) to function properly. here are the scripts: /etc/init.d/mknvdev Begin #!/bin/sh if [ -e /dev/.udev.tdb ]; then for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do node="/dev/nvidia$i" rm -f $node mknod $node c 195 $i || error "mknod \"$node\"" chmod 0666 $node || error "chmod \"$node\"" done node="/dev/nvidiactl" rm -f $node mknod $node c 195 255|| error "mknod \"$node\"" chmod 0666 $node || error "chmod \"$node\"" fi exit 0 End /etc/init.d/mkvmdev Begin #!/bin/sh if [ -e /dev/.udev.tdb ]; then for i in 0 1 2 3; do node="/dev/parport$i" rm -f $node mknod $node c 99 $i || error "mknod \"$node\"" chmod 0600 $node|| error "chmod \"$node\"" done for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do node="/dev/vmnet$i" rm -f $node mknod $node c 119 $i || error "mknod \"$node\"" chmod 0600 $node || error "chmod \"$node\"" done node="/dev/vmmon" rm -f $node mknod $node c 10 165|| error "mknod \"$node\"" chmod 0660 $node|| error "chmod \"$node\"" fi exit 0 End (don't forget to flag them executable and owned by root.root) I then created symbolic links in /etc/rcS.d/ as S26mknvdev -> ../init.d/mknvdev S26mkvmdev -> ../init.d/mkvmdev Which is right after devmapper starts and way after udev starts. That is how I have taken care of my problems... might not be "proper", but then again it does work... EVERY-TIME! ciao! Good luck! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 2.6 LVM problem
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:50:29PM +0100, Andrew Ingram wrote: I did update the lvm-common and lvm10 packages to the latest (I'm running Sid btw). But this produced the same thing (no mounted lvm), But you need lvm2 for kernel 2.6.*. And I don't know if there is an upgrade path to use the old lvm1 with lvm2. It should be backwards-compatible, but it uses different config files. The lvm2 package doesn't contain any docs for an upgrade (or I didn't find them). Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan SeitzE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | WWW: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/| | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
RE: [OT] Soemone was looking for an ---> UK <--- ENGLISH keyboard
> > P.S.: It's a rock solid PS/2 HP-UX Server Keyboard, vey nice ^^ > Sorry forgot to say that it is --->UK<--- English with British Pounds, etc Simmel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 and nvidia
Kevin Mark wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:46:38AM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: As a warning ... I was getting ready to upgrade my kernel to 2.6. I downloaded the new nvidia package. I was following instructions from /usr/share/doc without really thinking and did a "make" on the modules package. Within seconds I got dumped out of X and have been unable to start it ever since. The error messages I'm getting have to do with the module versions not matching the kernel versions. I have no idea how to get X back under my old kernel, and the new one isn't ready to be used yet (basically nothing's working yet). So as a warningdo NOT mess around with the latest nvidia packages until you know for sure that the rest of the 2.6 kernel is going to work. :( emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin Hi Emma, are you referring to 'make'ing X or the kernel? couldnt you just reinstall what was overriten? or remove the X packages and install them? -Kev Had the same problem with 2.6.5 and had to go back to 2.6.1 to get it all working again. Bill K
Re: graphic card problems
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 12:10:51PM -0400, Silvan wrote: > On Sunday 09 May 2004 07:48 am, James Hosken wrote: > > > | To follow up from this, I've managed to get gnoppix working better than > > | Knoppix. I have managed to copy the whole of Gnoppix's /etc/X11. > > | What parts of /etc/X11 should I be looking at and moving the info across > > | onto the Sarge install? > > > Please can any one help here, i'm really getting no where with this. > > I've just noticed in /var/log/XFree.log > > > > (EE) GARTInit: Unable o open /dev.agpgart 9No such device) > > (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not avaliable. Make sure your kernel > > has agpgart support ot that the agpgart kernek module is loaded. > > > > (EE) Screens(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > > > Fatal server error: > > no screens found > > You said you got it working with Gnoppix. Did you copy > Gnoppix's /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 into your working install? > > If not, start there. > > If you did that already, then I hope someone else can help you. I do have the > agpgart module on my box, but I can't figure out where it came from. I've > never manually configured anything to load it, so it's there as if by magic > as far as I can see. I did a little poking around, and still have no > clue. agpgart is a kernel module and it should be available on debian kernels. If you use a custom kernel you will need to make sure you compile it (at least as a module), it should be under character devices. It is loaded automatically by modprobe when loading the card driver which is probably loaded automatically by the X server. > Whatever the difference is between my config and yours might indeed be > telling, but this aspect of my config was done by a package install script > somewhere, not by me. > > -- > Michael McIntyre Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 LVM problem
On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 11:38, David Cannings wrote: > On Monday 10 May 2004 10:55, Andrew Ingram wrote: > > /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device > > Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? > > Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. > > Name change: '/dev/lvma' -> '/dev/vg00/mythtvlv' > > Added 2.6.5 > > Added 2.4.22-HT * > > Device mapper is installed in the kernel. Some googling showed that > > this was the sort of message that people using DEVFS in their kernel > > experienced. I'm not using DEVFS however. > > Which kernel is device mapper built into? If you were trying to run lilo > from your 2.4 kernel and hadn't got device mapper built into it you would > likely get that error. > > As for 2.6, don't forget you will also need the newer LVM userspace tools. David, you were absolutely right. The lilo error was down to the 2.4 kernel not having device mapper built in. Running lilo when running under 2.6.5 produced no error. I did update the lvm-common and lvm10 packages to the latest (I'm running Sid btw). But this produced the same thing (no mounted lvm), although I've noticed some additional errors during bootup now. Here is a small bit from /var/log/boot: ... All modules loaded. Setting up LVM Volume Groups... vgscan -- LVM driver/module not loaded? vgchange -- LVM driver/module not loaded? ... As far as I know, LVM is built into my kernel. In the menuconfig I selected to build in the multi device support (didn't bother with RAID since I dont need it). The section from my .config is as follows: # # Multi-device support (RAID and LVM) # CONFIG_MD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=m # CONFIG_MD_LINEAR is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID0 is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID1 is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID5 is not set # CONFIG_MD_RAID6 is not set # CONFIG_MD_MULTIPATH is not set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM=y # CONFIG_DM_CRYPT is not set Is this enough or am I missing something? Regards, Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mouse + gtk problems.
Since some time I have problems with my built-in Touchpad PS/2 mouse device under X. It's there, I can use it and it's fine. Until I start a gtk (1 or 2) application and it's gone. It took a while to discover this was the problem, since I thought this mousedevice just 'disapeared' after a while (I normally use my external USB mouse). It's seemed to disappear only after I started firefox (which is gtk based) and after testing, even the configuration tools 'switch' and 'switch2' kill the internal PS/2 mouse/touchpad. Anybody any idea why this happens? I don't use gpm, but could it be that gtk apps start gpm-like services under water? Once closed I cannot bring the internal mouse back to life, I need to restart X for that. At least, that's what I figured out so far. Oh btw, I normally use KDE, so gtk apps are 'foreign' for my DE. Regards, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squid + transparent proxying + ssl prots ?
> yip that sounds corrcet do you have an example for me ? of how to forward > from my internal nic to the gatway nic ? > > Thanks a stack > >> Hi. > >> > >> Please can some one advise how to setup squid to transparently proxy ssl > >> ports, it's currently proxing http with no problem.. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> Gregory Machin > >> > > > > It sounds like what you need is masquerading or possibly port forwarding. > > I > > manage a squid proxy for my company but no other connections are proxied. > > Instead we use a machine as an internet gateway and use masquerading to > > route SSH connections off the local private subnet to the internet. Many > > organizations do this. One way to do this is with iptables. Let me know > > if > > you'd like some examples. > > > > <|>/\\/|<|> Hmm. Looks like some lines were wrapped in my last post. Here's the script again as an attachment. <|>/\\/|<|> #!/bin/bash IPTABLES=/usr/sbin/iptables MODPROBE=/sbin/modprobe LOCALNET=10.0.0.0/8 INT=eth0 # Name of the internal lan side network card EXT=eth1 # Name of the external internet side network card $MODPROBE ipt_MASQUERADE $MODPROBE ip_conntrack_ftp $MODPROBE ip_nat_ftp # Enable forwarding echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward # This clears existing rules and sets default policies # These policies assume you have a firewall between the gateway and the internet $IPTABLES -P INPUT ACCEPT $IPTABLES -F INPUT $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT ACCEPT $IPTABLES -F OUTPUT $IPTABLES -P FORWARD DROP $IPTABLES -F FORWARD $IPTABLES -t nat -F $IPTABLES -t mangle -F # Masquerading rules $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXT -o $INT -d $LOCALNET -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $INT -o $EXT -s $LOCALNET -j ACCEPT # Perform actual masquerading in postrouting $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXT -j MASQUERADE
Re: Secure OS's
Thanx for the quick response and appologies my the delay in mine. I now realize that my posting was too vague when I mentioned "secure os's" I guess what I mean by a secure os is an os whose packages themselves are secure, obviously if someone doesn't set up a server securely, it doesn't matter how secure the packages are. Like wise, if a person set up a server keeping security as a priority, all their efforts are for naught if the package is built insecurely, (like the common buffer overflow). I know that debian releases security patches that solve many of these issues, when the come up. However, this process leads me to believe that the packages in general are not built with security in mind (which makes sense because most people programming an editor are probably not terribly concerned about curious users monkeying around with their programs too much). How important of an issue do you guys feel this is and do you think projects like bastille are important towards this effort? Also, I do not know of any other debian compatible security packages and would love to learn more about them. thanx Paul Quoting Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hey peoples! > > > > I have just been wondering about the security of debian verus the other > "Secure" > > OS's. I am refering to OS's like OpenBSD, Immunix, and Adamantix. I am > new to > > this area and I was wondering, > > > >1. What is the difference between more secure OS's and Debian? > None. Debian can be as secure or insecure as you make it. > >2. What are the security Advanatages of Debian versus more secure OS's? > Again, it depends on how secure you make your particular configuration. > >3. Why doesn't all open source strive to be "more" secure? > Because security must be balanced with convenience. The more secure you > make your system, the less convenient it is for your users. For a > better undertsanding, check out the "Securing Debian" manual > (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/) and the > documentation for Bastille. > >4. What are the performance advantages of Debian versus more secure > OS's? > Depends on what hardware/tasks you have. Also depends on whether > you use optimized packages, or rebuild the basic packages yourself with > optimizations. > > > > Thanx! > You're welcome, > > > > Paul > -Roberto Sanchez > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squid + transparent proxying + ssl prots ?
> >> Hi. > >> > >> Please can some one advise how to setup squid to transparently proxy ssl > >> ports, it's currently proxing http with no problem.. > >> > >> Many thanks > >> Gregory Machin > >> > > > > It sounds like what you need is masquerading or possibly port forwarding. > > I > > manage a squid proxy for my company but no other connections are proxied. > > Instead we use a machine as an internet gateway and use masquerading to > > route SSH connections off the local private subnet to the internet. Many > > organizations do this. One way to do this is with iptables. Let me know > > if > > you'd like some examples. > > > > <|>/\\/|<|> > > > > yip that sounds corrcet do you have an example for me ? of how to forward > from my internal nic to the gatway nic ? > > Thanks a stack The best way to do this depends on what you already have set up and your company's security policies. I'll give you an example of how I do it and perhaps you can figure out the best way to apply these ideas to your own setup. Please note, I'm not an "expert" in this area. I can however tell you what works for me and what my understanding is of the subject. You're likely to get some follow up emails with corrections about my explanation here. First of all the company I work for has a number of machines on their private network. We use "net 10" for our lan. There is one gateway machine and all internet access from clients on net 10 gets routed through the gateway machine. The gateway machine is connected both to net 10 and to an internet router by way of a firewall. Here's a crude picture of that setup: Clients on net 10. 10.0.0.1 though 10.0.0.253 | Connect via lan cable and switches to | Gateway machine (10.0.0.254 lan side / 62.192.14.212 internet side) | Connects via lan cable to | Internet firewall | Connects via cable and router to | Our ISP which in turn connects us to the internet The default gateway of all the lan clients is set to the lan side address of the gateway machine (10.0.0.254) This means all internet requests must pass through this one machine to reach the internet. The internet IP of our gateway is (hypothetically) 62.192.14.212. The iptables command can be used to perform a range of functions in Linux including forwarding, firewalling with stateful packet inspection and the masquerading function so that all your clients may access the internet. When properly configured, the gateway will forward packets from any of your lan clients to the internet and forward any returning traffic back to the correct client on your lan. This is similar to proxying but (put simply) there is no caching involved. Here's is a VERY BASIC script for iptables that demonstrates a way to perform masquerading. You run this script on your Linux gateway. Generally you will want to add a number of additional firewall rules to help secure your gateway. While this script should work for your setup, it is not to be considered the final or complete solution for your setup. I expressly disclaim any liability for what this script will do once used in your organization. It's simply the minimum required to successfully activate ip masquerading for your network. For more information on iptables you can go check out http://www.netfilter.org/ . You'll find a lot of valuable information there. Basically what this script does is allow most lan traffic unrestricted access to the internet and only allow internet traffic to reach the lan if it is in response to a host on the lan. There are many ways to configure this to accomplish your own tasks. This is just one way. It really should be hardened with additional rules to afford your gateway more protection. However this script has been sufficient (security wise) on my personal lan at home because my internet router is also a firewall. The script I use at my company is more complex and involves firewalling as a layer of redundancy to the commercial firewall. #!/bin/bash IPTABLES=/usr/sbin/iptables MODPROBE=/sbin/modprobe LOCALNET=10.0.0.0/8 INT=eth0 # Name of the internal lan side network card EXT=eth1 # Name of the external internet side network card $MODPROBE ipt_MASQUERADE $MODPROBE ip_conntrack_ftp $MODPROBE ip_nat_ftp # Enable forwarding echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward # This clears existing rules and sets default policies # These policies assume you have a firewall between the gateway and the internet $IPTABLES -P INPUT ACCEPT $IPTABLES -F INPUT $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT ACCEPT $IPTABLES -F OUTPUT $IPTABLES -P FORWARD DROP $IPTABLES -F FORWARD $IPTABLES -t nat -F $IPTABLES -t mangle -F # Masquerading rules $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXT -o $INT -d $LOCALNET -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $INT -o $EXT -s $LOCALNET -j ACCEPT # Perform actual masquerading in postrouting $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXT -j MASQUERADE To customize this script
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RE: AW: Debian Server with IPCop
> > Yes, you'll need three ports on your firewall for RED/ORANGE/GREEN > respectively. > Yes you can host a website, but you probably should spend some time > learning about apache in more details. It's pretty feature rich. > > > -- Damn right, but for a small setup these tips might give you some directions, IPCOP listens on RED, if a request for >your.ip.add.ress:80< is available it will forward the request according to your rule and forward it to >my.dmz.ip.here:80< to ORANGE (ipcop as a router would have e.g. 10.0.0.1)... make sure Apache listens on >my.dmz.ip.here:80< and will answer to the http request and gives back the result to the firewall which will forward the paket to client on red... The whole apache machine (network interfaces settings & routings & apache httpd.conf) needs to have the >my.dmz.ip.here< , as I said before e.g. 10.0.0.2. This is the only thing you have to make sure. In apache you put/change --> Listen my.dmz.ip.here:80 <-- in your httpd.conf - also you still use your fqdn like e.g. www.mydomain.com with this address 10.0.0.2. How to do the portforwarding, take a look here :-) http://www.ipcop.org/1.3.0/en/admin/html/services.html#services_portforward For more info on apache 1.3 directives look here :-) http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/directives.html BTW, using an apache on GREEN, IPCOP will NOT allow any connection from RED (unless the orginal request was from inside GREEN). This is forbidden by design, just to make sure you get it right. Therefore the DMZ/ORANGE You can use Internet - 210.210.210.211 -|--| Provider ips - 212/213/214/215 | | which will be forwarded to ORANGE DMZ - 10.0.0.1 GREEN - 192.168.0.1 "isolated" clients 10.0.0.2clients 192.168.0.2 /3/4/5/ /3/4/5 Portforward from RED to ORANGE: WEBSERVER 210.210.210.212 Port 80 > 10.0.0.2 Port 80 MAILSERVER 210.210.210.213 Port 25 > 10.0.0.3 Port 80 and so on Ah almost forgot, to get access to the DMZ do a "route add" on every client on GREEN, so they'll know how to reach the DMZ on wintendo clients a -p makes the entry permanent, don't know if it's the same for 'nix. HTH, Simmel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse doesnt work in console
Andres LG wrote: I installed mousedev with modconf, but it didnt change my X config file, it is still /dev/psaux. The thing is: /dev/psaux is the correct device gpm.conf is OK files related with gpm are OK but gpm doesnt work! what am I doing wrong? Perhaps you need to "modprobe psmouse"? -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need Help
DaMoZ 666 wrote: Hello. I have a problem. After i successfully install debian, it comes up with a debian login but its in a DOS sort of thing. I would like to know how to switch to the graphic user-interface. Thank you for your time. (Hint: You'll generally get better responses with more meaningful subject lines, like "new install; text mode only; need GUI". A generic "Need Help" subject line will often get your message deleted by many people on this list without even being read.) You have successfully installed Debian. You may not have successfully installed some of the packages, such as a Graphical User Interface, on top of Debian, but Debian itself is successfully installed. Now what you want to do is install a GUI. First, try typing "startx". It'll either try to start the GUI (the "X Window System", or "X"), or it'll complain that it can't find startx or something similar. If the latter occurs, then try "apt-get install x-window-system kde", which hopefully will install a basic X system, along with the KDE environment which will make it feel/look similar to what you're accustomed to in the Windows world. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pppd connection over bluetooth
Trying to connect to the internet with a PPP connection over bluetooth. It's a SE T610 and the internet GPRS config is CID=3. In the pppd logs I get: May 10 14:08:34 chris pppd[7470]: pppd 2.4.2 started by root, uid 0 May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: timeout set to 5 seconds May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: abort on (\nBUSY\r) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: abort on (\nERROR\r) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: abort on (\nNO ANSWER\r) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: abort on (\nNO CARRIER\r) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: abort on (\nNO DIALTONE\r) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: abort on (\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: send (^MAT^M) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: timeout set to 12 seconds May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: expect (OK) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: ^MAT^M^M May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: OK May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: -- got it May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: send (ATE1^M) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: expect (OK) May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: ^M May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: ATE1^M^M May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: OK May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: -- got it May 10 14:08:40 chris chat[7471]: send (AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"^M) May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: expect (OK) May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: ^M May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"^M^M May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: OK May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: -- got it May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: send (ATD*99***3#^M) May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: expect (CONNECT) May 10 14:08:41 chris chat[7471]: ^M May 10 14:08:42 chris chat[7471]: ATD*99***3#^M^M May 10 14:08:42 chris chat[7471]: CONNECT May 10 14:08:42 chris chat[7471]: -- got it May 10 14:08:42 chris pppd[7470]: Serial connection established. May 10 14:08:42 chris pppd[7470]: Using interface ppp0 May 10 14:08:42 chris pppd[7470]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/rfcomm0 May 10 14:08:44 chris pppd[7470]: LCP: Rcvd Code-Reject for code 9, id 0 May 10 14:08:44 chris pppd[7470]: PAP authentication succeeded May 10 14:09:14 chris pppd[7470]: LCP: Rcvd Code-Reject for code 9, id 1 May 10 14:09:44 chris pppd[7470]: LCP: Rcvd Code-Reject for code 9, id 2 May 10 14:10:14 chris pppd[7470]: LCP: Rcvd Code-Reject for code 9, id 3 May 10 14:10:44 chris pppd[7470]: No response to 4 echo-requests May 10 14:10:44 chris pppd[7470]: Serial link appears to be disconnected. May 10 14:10:44 chris pppd[7470]: Connection terminated. May 10 14:10:45 chris pppd[7470]: Exit. So - it looks like the connection over bluetooth (/dev/rfcomm0) is OK. On the first LCP code rejection line the mobile (T610) states "GPRS parameters not supported". Anyone give me a hint, URL or similar? I don't even know if this is something wrong in the PC config, the phone config or the network at the moment. The peers scripts is: /dev/rfcomm0 57600 connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/peers/telenor-gprs-chat' noauth defaultroute debug user ipparam telenor-gprs And the chat script is: TIMEOUT 5 ECHOON ABORT '\nBUSY\r' ABORT '\nERROR\r' ABORT '\nNO ANSWER\r' ABORT '\nNO CARRIER\r' ABORT '\nNO DIALTONE\r' ABORT '\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r' '' \rAT TIMEOUT 12 OK ATE1 OK 'AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"' OK ATD*99***3# CONNECT Regards -- Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PS/2 Mouse Problem!
Kaveh Gh wrote: Hi! (Again) In /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, the mouse device has been defined according to the following lines: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection As you can see, the mouse protocol that X uses is ImPS/2. In X environment, mouse works not really fine! I mean when I move the mouse slowly, it works not bad, but when I move it fast, it jumps from one side to the other side of screen, unwanted clicks and undesired scrolling will be happened :( I have changed ImPS/2 to PS/2, but no good results have been got and the mouse behavior becomes really bad!! Go back to ImPS/2 ; I think that was better! Please let me know that besides PS/2, ImPS/2, autoPS/2, which kind of protocol I have to test? Until now, I have not tested autoPS/2. My mouse is PS/2 with netscrolling capability. Looking 4 your recommandations and suggestions. I suspect you have gpm installed. (Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and move your mouse around; do you see a white block cursor tracking your movements? If so, then yes, you have gpm installed. Ctrl-F7 should get you back to the X Window System.) If you do, you'll need to run "gpmconfig" and configure it to repeat the data as "ms", then reconfigure X to pull the data from "/dev/gpmdata". -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: D-Link 530TX Problem!! [Solved]
Kaveh Gh wrote: added: alias eth0 rhinefet into /etc/modules.conf. Then issued: modprobe rhinefet :) Everything was good. Yea! I'm glad you got it working. But you should know that you shouldn't directly modify /etc/modules.conf. You can lose your settings on a future upgrade, and by then you'll have forgotten enough of this episode to not be able to easily figure out why your network suddenly died. I'm afraid I don't know enough about modutils to tell you where to put this setting, but I know enough to know that it doesn't go directly into /etc/modules.conf. Maybe /etc/modutils/aliases? -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 and nvidia
Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > [Compiled nVidia drivers and now X ix broken.] not sure how to copy and paste the URL from the console, sorry. Which is one of the reasons I have gpm installed, gpm being the mouse driver for the console. Then just highlight to copy and middle-click to paste. In any case, I installed nvidia-glx before I should have and that's why I ran into problems. I appear to now be committed to my mistakewhich would be fine if I could figure out why X says that I no longer have a screen that works. (What's the new stuff in the kernel that has to do with screen resolution? I probably messed up somewhere around there...when I did my make oldconfig) But X is still throwing up errors and my nvidia module isn't listed under lsmod. It's there under /lib/modules/[etc]/nvidia.ko, but I can't probe it (why is everything .ko now instead of .o?). I do have module-init-tools, and there are other modules loaded, so I'm not sure why nvidia's refusing to play nicely. Just temporarily, you might use the "nv" or "vesa" or "vga" driver to get back into X. That'll give you a sense of "okay, back in GUI-land, whew", even if it's not quite what you want long-run. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
print to a hp lj 5l through tcp/ip
Hi! I have a hp laserjet 5l printer in my network, and listens on tcp port 9100. A few month ago (when I used woody), I could use the socket:// protocoll to connect to it. But after I've upgraded to sarge, I can not even select the tcp/ip protocoll when I'm adding a new printer. I can only choose from smb, and lpt. Anyone know how to use this kind of printer? Thanks! Daniel -- LeVA pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: mouse doesnt work in console
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 11:39:04PM -0400, Andres LG wrote: > and making gpmconfig using diferent configurations (imps2, > ps2, autops2; repeat_type raw, ms3, none): nothing What kind of mouse do you actually have? How many buttons, what vendor etc. > $ ls -l /dev/psaux > crw---1 root root 10, 1 may 9 22:37 /dev/psaux > > (I dont know what the c means) c means character device - it is a serial stream of information generated by the kernel. As appose to block device, which is random access; regular files; symbolic links and directories. > The thing is: > /dev/psaux is the correct device > gpm.conf is OK > files related with gpm are OK > > but gpm doesnt work! what am I doing wrong? My best guess is that the protocol is incorrect, but you've already said you have tried them all. Can you confirm that you have tried each protocol, and each protocol does not work, with gpm restarted for each, without any other process reading psaux (including X)? -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
catting binary data (was Re: mouse doesnt work in console)
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 05:05:05AM -0400, Andres LG wrote: > When I put > $cat /dev/psaux > I get a lot of garbage on the screen, so I am sure it is the right device. Use hexdump/hd (in the bsdmainutils package) to read binary data , rather than simply catting it which will most likely break your terminal, and could actually cause data loss. $ hd /dev/psaux (wiggle the mouse) And if you get output consistent with your wiggling, then the mouse is ok. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse doesnt work in console
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 06:01:03AM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > Derek usually answers these - but he sounds a bit fed up with the repetition. > You will find several recent threads on this in the archive, but to save you > the search this time here is the key bit: afaik, this advice is only relevant when trying to get X to work in conjunction with gpm, rather than gpm to work at all. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
copy and paste from console (was Re: 2.6 and nvidia)
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 03:19:18AM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > ... not sure how to copy and paste the URL from the console, sorry. Install the `screen' package. This provides many useful features for console work, not least of which is a copy-and-paste facility ^A [ - start copy mode - select start and end of region to copy ^A ] - paste -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.6 and nvidia
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 04:03:18AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > Just a thought, I use a precompiled 2.6.4 kernel and I used the > nvidia-kernel-source package and it worked for me!(tm). Is that what you > used? I'm confused. > -Kev Using the kernel-package means is highly recommended - I think Emma built the package using nvidia's supplied instructions. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about using rpm command error in debian
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 05:01:03PM +0800, li Rick wrote: > I am a debian new user.I had set up Debian env,I will use rpm on it,but > when I run "rpm -qa",the following error showed: > --- > # rpm -qa > error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) > # Debian doesn't use RPM. The sort of thing you're trying to do Just Won't Work without a lot of manual hacking; if you're going to do that then you might as well run an RPMish distribution to start with. Use the Debian package management tools instead. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BT Voyager 1010 (or Linksys WUSB11)
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 09:08:47AM +0100, Jonathan Melhuish wrote: > Hmm, I tried to modify it "properly" so that I can send my changes back > to the authors. Here's the diff: > > >#define VENDOR_ID_BT 0x69a > >#define PRODUCT_ID_BT_VOYAGER_10100x821 > 113a114 > >{ USB_DEVICE(VENDOR_ID_BT, PRODUCT_ID_BT_VOYAGER_1010 ) }, > > I did a make, make install, but still the message in the system log is > the same (not claimed by any active driver). I tried typing "modprobe > -v at76c503-rfmd" again but to no avail. > > Just as an aside, how do I get the proper diff output with filenames and > line numbers and stuff, so that you can use "patch"? Use 'diff -u'. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]