Re: cdrom does not un-mounts
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 10:22:14AM +0530, J.S.Sahambi wrote: > I am using Debian/sid. Some times when I mount a cdrom and try to > unmount it immediately, it gives the following error on the terminal: > > umount: /cdrom: device is busy > umount: /cdrom: device is busy > > But the fact is the cdrom is not being used by any of my terminals or > programs (as I have not used the terminal or any program to browse or > use the cdrom). The only way I have found to umount the cdrom in this > case is to logout (or kill the xserver with ctrl-alt-backspace) and > login are root or same user and unmount. Then the cdrom unmounts with > out any problem. > > Can anybody shed some light on it. > > Thanks > JSS > Hi J, there ususaly is something using the cdrom, you just have to find out what. The first thing is to make sure you are not in a subdirectory of the cdrom. (/cdrom or /cdrom/file1, etc). Make sure there are no programs 'viewing' the cdrom contents (like konquoror). the last option is the use the 'lsof' program. lsof == ls of == list the open files. it shows you the running programs and the files that they use. I think something like: lsof | grep cdrom might be useful. -Kev signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cdrom does not un-mounts
Received Sat 22 May 2004 3:04pm +1000 from J.S.Sahambi: > I am using Debian/sid. Some times when I mount a cdrom and try to > unmount it immediately, it gives the following error on the terminal: > > umount: /cdrom: device is busy > umount: /cdrom: device is busy > > But the fact is the cdrom is not being used by any of my terminals or > programs (as I have not used the terminal or any program to browse or > use the cdrom). The only way I have found to umount the cdrom in this > case is to logout (or kill the xserver with ctrl-alt-backspace) and > login are root or same user and unmount. Then the cdrom unmounts with > out any problem. Not sure if this might be your problem, but I used to have the same, and found it was caused by the "fam" daemon. I used to kill it with "wajig stop fam" (or more directly as "/etc/init.d/fam stop"). Then I was able to unmount the cdrom. Regards, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 11:55:17PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 16:43 -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > Matt Price wrote: > > > > >On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:30:12AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > >>Matt Price wrote: > > > >>Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a > > >>second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup. > > >> > > >> > > > > > >so, question: Is it actually possible to run a different X session on > > >the projector? > > > > > > > Having never had a laptop I could experiment much with, I don't know. I > > came across something last week that led me to believe that a laptop > > essentially has a "second video card" which it uses for the external > > monitor, but I briefly experimented with an older laptop that led me to > > believe that was not the case at least with this laptop. > > Most newer laptops which use ATI radeon or nvidia chipsets have this > dual head capability. > > X does not currently seem flexible enough to switch between single head > and dual head on the fly though, so you either have to have dual head > running all the time, or restart X with a different XF86Config file when > you want to do this nifty sort of thing. > > If someone came up with a way to make the second head map directly to a > virtual desktop, that would be massively sweet... yeah, this is what I want. how would one start? Where's brandon when we need him??? m > > -Mark > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice
Joris Huizer wrote: Clyde Wilson wrote: Joris Huizer wrote: Clyde Wilson wrote: I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port. If I do a 'echo "OK" > /dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output. Is there something I need to do to get the right device? You can find information about all sorts of printers at http://linuxprinting.org/ Also, make sure you have the usb printer module in the kernel enabled (search by using modconf, in the usb section (in my 2.6.6 custom kernel it's under kernel/drivers/usb/class, called usblp) Thanks for the speedy answer, Joris. I tried modconf, but I can't find anything to do with printers or usb devices. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Hello Clyde Wilson, Take a look here: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Hardware/Getting_USB_and_Your_Printer_Working.html For usb printing, you'll have to upgrade to a 2.4 kernel - or a 2.6 kernel , but coming from 2.2 that'd be a big leap I guess. There are some 2.4 kernel images available as debian packages or you could try and compile a custom kernel. Thanks Joris, I'll give it a try. HTH, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3
Brent Bailey wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:26, richard lyons wrote: On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote: A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3. I kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive. Now / is full, and every other partition is hardly used. I can't mount a cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need. All partitions are ext3. Is there a way to add more space to / (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both partitions? What is your present partitioning scheme? What do df and mount say? df: /dev/sda1 135468134724 0 100% / tmpfs 452892 0452892 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda5 4807056 1533208 3029664 34% /usr /dev/sda6 2885780863160 1876032 32% /var /dev/sda715022 1060 13161 8% /tmp /dev/sda8 68571736 5397808 59690636 9% /home That seems a perfectly reasonable scheme to me. You might want to double check that something isn't on the root partition that shouldn't be['du -m --max-depth=3 -x / | sort -n']. /root should be almost empty, /opt shouldn't be on the root partition if you are using it[putting it on the /usr partition is one idea], and nothing should take up a lot of space on /etc. The exception to this last point is /etc/gconf, but I consider that a bug[which is already reported #227726, but the reporter is off by an order of magnitude[/etc/gconf/ is *19MB* for me, I also question the need for /etc/X11 to be 15MB, mostly due to /etc/X11/xserver/C/print/models/PSdefault/fonts/]]. There also isn't much point in having more than 2 kernels on the system. Don't get me wrong, it is possible for / to legitimately need more than 130MB[and if you really aren't using the space elsewhere than you might as well make it bigger], it's just that my / is only 95MB, and I've seen posts from other people to suggest that that is on the high end. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
cdrom does not un-mounts
I am using Debian/sid. Some times when I mount a cdrom and try to unmount it immediately, it gives the following error on the terminal: umount: /cdrom: device is busy umount: /cdrom: device is busy But the fact is the cdrom is not being used by any of my terminals or programs (as I have not used the terminal or any program to browse or use the cdrom). The only way I have found to umount the cdrom in this case is to logout (or kill the xserver with ctrl-alt-backspace) and login are root or same user and unmount. Then the cdrom unmounts with out any problem. Can anybody shed some light on it. Thanks JSS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New kernel, network problems - solution?
There have been several posts lately from people having post-upgraded-kernel network problems. I recently experienced a similar problem after installing a new kernel (network unreachable, Linksys device refusing connection, etc). When I tried unsuccessfully to 'ifup eth0' it was suggested that I needed to have CONFIG_FILTER configured. So, I went back and did that, and now everything's fine. But here's what the config help (for a 2.4.x kernel) says about CONFIG_FILTER: CONFIG_FILTER: The Linux Socket Filter is derived from the Berkeley Packet Filter. If you say Y here, user-space programs can attach a filter to any socket and thereby tell the kernel that it should allow or disallow certain types of data to get through the socket. Linux Socket Filtering works on all socket types except TCP for now. See the text file Documentation/networking/filter.txt for more information. You need to say Y here if you want to use PPP packet filtering (see the CONFIG_PPP_FILTER option below). If unsure, say N. If unsure, say N?? If you do that, networking breaks. This is not the first time I've had this experience (I have a bad memory when it comes to kernel options!), but I think that option should say, if unsure, say Y. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Incoming from John Hasler: > s. keeling writes: > > Mine is trapped (by procmail + spamassassin) at my ISP's shell account > > and deleted there unseen. > > I have no shell account nor any possibility of one. I have to download it > all and filter it here. I've heard of a few things that let you review the contents of a remote mailbox, cleaning out the cruft prior to downloading. Or, there are services you can pay for. Your mail is sent there, washed, and the balance bounced to you. Spamcop used to sell this; no idea if they still do. > > Even at %65 (according to Economist/Brightmail) of overall traffic, spam > > is still very manageable with the right software. > > though, or my mailbox will overflow. When it reaches 99+% I shall have to > give up email entirely. Worst case, you can pay somebody to do it for you, one way or another. But abandon email because of spam? Not from my vantage point. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 16:43 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Matt Price wrote: > > >On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:30:12AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > >>Matt Price wrote: > >>Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a > >>second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup. > >> > >> > > > >so, question: Is it actually possible to run a different X session on > >the projector? > > > > Having never had a laptop I could experiment much with, I don't know. I > came across something last week that led me to believe that a laptop > essentially has a "second video card" which it uses for the external > monitor, but I briefly experimented with an older laptop that led me to > believe that was not the case at least with this laptop. Most newer laptops which use ATI radeon or nvidia chipsets have this dual head capability. X does not currently seem flexible enough to switch between single head and dual head on the fly though, so you either have to have dual head running all the time, or restart X with a different XF86Config file when you want to do this nifty sort of thing. If someone came up with a way to make the second head map directly to a virtual desktop, that would be massively sweet... -Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Install --> LOCALES
Tom Allison wrote:
I'm getting a lot of errors regarding LOCALES, especially in Perl
modules when upgrading.
Example (one of many):
Setting up xprt-common (0.0.9.final-2) ...
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_CTYPE = "en_US.UTF-8",
LANG = (unset)
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
When I run 'locale' I get two warnings:
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=POSIX
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
(everything else says "POSIX")
I tried running 'local-gen' which generated a locale for
en_US.ISO-8859-1 (Nothing about UTF) and it still gives the same errors.
HELP?
I've run into this on a couple of installs using an older Sarge beta
installer; I've fixed it by re-running "dpkg-reconfigure locales",
selecting all three US_EN entries, and then on the next screen choosing
the first EN_US entry. I don't really understand what I did, but it got
rid of the problem for me on both boxes.
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external firewire problem
I'm running debian Sarge I have an external firewire hard drive, which I use to keep my music on. Easy to move between machines that way. The problem, when the firewire bus/scsi emulation (?) freezes, the whole computer freezes., and 50% of the time after a reboot, the drive is inaccessible, giving this error during boot up; ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-01:1023] GUID[0030ffa7efb1] ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and rese tting... ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 sbp2: $Rev: 1170 $ Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scsi1 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices ip1394: $Rev: 1175 $ Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ip1394: eth1: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0) ieee1394: sbp2: Error logging into SBP-2 device - login timed-out sbp2: probe of 0030ffa7efb1-0 failed with error -16 ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0030ffa7efb1] ohci1394: fw-host0: SelfID received, but NodeID invalid (probably new bus reset occurre d): 0800FFC0 ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0030ffa7efb1] scsi3 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices ieee1394: sbp2: Error logging into SBP-2 device - login timed-out sbp2: probe of 0030ffa7efb1-0 failed with error -16 here is the output of lsmod; eth139420840 0 sbp2 24136 0 ohci1394 35428 0 ieee1394 110872 3 eth1394,sbp2,ohci1394 scsi_mod 121292 8 sbp2,st,sr_mod,sg,usb_storage,ide_scsi,aic7xxx,sd_mod aic7xxx 206348 0 (which is used by my scsi controller) I've tried turning the external drive off, and then back on. Turning it off, and letting it sit for some time (more than 10 minutes at a time) Still refuses to be recognized. Any ideas, or suggestions? Thanks -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgpImImNFACTP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
s. keeling writes: > Mine is trapped (by procmail + spamassassin) at my ISP's shell account > and deleted there unseen. I have no shell account nor any possibility of one. I have to download it all and filter it here. > Even at %65 (according to Economist/Brightmail) of overall traffic, spam > is still very manageable with the right software. Barely. Much more and I am going to have to queue mail for a late-night spamassassin batch run. I will still have to download every few hours, though, or my mailbox will overflow. When it reaches 99+% I shall have to give up email entirely. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Editing faxes in Linux
I'm looking for a pointer to a program that will let me edit faxes under Linux. Basically, each fax is a TIF file -- I just need something that will let me open the TIF, add text and simple line drawings, and save the TIF. I'm not looking for OCR or anthing like that. (For instance, under Windows, you can use th eFax Messenger program to do something like this, or the Windows Imaging tool). I know I COULD do this with The Gimp, but its really overkill for this kind of application and it doesn't really handle multipage TIFFs well. Anyone have a suggestion? Thanks! Moe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Incoming from Tom Allison: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/12/spam_king_vs_spamcop/ > > It's articles like this one that leave me in doubt. They did get > repealed shortly after, but the fact that they made enough progress to > block spamcop is something. Re-read the article. All they won was a temporary injunction which Spamcop didn't contest, and which expired yesterday when they were to go in front of a judge. Hopefully the judge was unamused and they're now facing punitive damages, or they will be. If you're running Windows, I can well imagine that spam is becoming a real problem, along with all the other stupid things (malware) that Windows users have to put up with. I don't know how they do it. We don't have to have that problem. We have spamassassin and procmail. Spam is only a problem for ISPs who have to receive it or reject it, and Windows users who have few to no effective means to protect themselves from it. Mine is trapped (by procmail + spamassassin) at my ISP's shell account and deleted there unseen. Even at %65 (according to Economist/Brightmail) of overall traffic, spam is still very manageable with the right software. Too bad if you still insist on using Windows though. Your only option there is finding a smarter provider. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
James Buchanan writes: > I've often thought about refusing to use email at all, and communicating > with people I know with IRC on a server I host... IRC is not a replacement for email. I couldn't use it if I wanted to. > Maybe the Internet community needs to get together and write a new RFC > for spam free email, and lock the damn thing down. Email could be > refused with a forged from line. Also, there could be a negotiation > stage (possibly). Email over UUCP. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Fri 21 May 2004 08:36, Tom Allison wrote:
> Tim Connors wrote:
...
> >
> > The only solution is education, but unforuntalely, 50% of the
> > population are just too god damn fucking stupid to get it - witness
> > the spam for some kind of drug with plenty of spelling errors, that
> > advertises that the business is being shut down by the drugs
> > administration, so get in quick. Who could possibly be so fucking
> > stupid to respond to an ad like that? Unfortunately, enough people
> > to make the whole business profitable.
>
> Spam is a BILLION dollar industry.
> Get that into your head and then you'll realize that Spam will NEVER
> go away. Too many people buy it, too many companies profit from it.
Well you're on the right track -the problem is an economic one. Inboxes
aren't owned in any tangible sense - you can't charge anyone for the
privilege of filling your inbox. Nor is there a delivery charge of any
kind. Because of this, spammers face virtually no costs to send
millions of emails and even if only a tiny fraction respond, they can
still make money. The fact that they impose enormous costs
("externalities") on millions of users, businesses and governments is
of no consequence to them.
Now suppose you could demand a payment whenever someone sent you an
email. It would only need to be a few pennies in all probability.
Spammers simply couldn't afford to pay all those inbox fees. The
individual user would be able to set the fee and exempt those whom they
wished to allow access.
This idea has some technical issues, and would require a system of
payment clearing more sophisticated than anything like PayPal. It would
probably require that banks get involved as well as a system of
including a payment with a message (a neat side effect would be that
digital signing would simply have to become more common). But once
spammers had to pay to access every inbox on the planet the problem
would essentially disappear.
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Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
> If nothing changes email will soon be unusable. I've often thought about refusing to use email at all, and communicating with people I know with IRC on a server I host, and sharing files with good old FTP. Maybe the Internet community needs to get together and write a new RFC for spam free email, and lock the damn thing down. Email could be refused with a forged from line. Also, there could be a negotiation stage (possibly). This has privacy and anonymity issues however. That could kill such an idea. Someone needs to write a really good RFC for a new email "next generation" service and make it impossibly hard for spammers, that is simple and quick to implement. No 6-part RFCs with vague requirements and a long list of gotcha's. Quick and simple like the orginal SMTP, but locked down and designed around squishing spam from the start. -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Katipo writes: > This is the scenario now, where if some clown steals your car and has a > fatal accident, you are legally liable because you are the registered > owner. This may be true where you live but it most certainly is not true in the USA. > One man's spam is another's information, and we apply spam filters > appropriately. What do you propose to do when the volume of spam grows so large that most ISPs refuse to handle email at all? More than half of my email is spam, and nearly half of that is bounced spam with my address forged. At the current rate of growth 99% of my email will be spam in a few years. If nothing changes email will soon be unusable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: D-I to SATA (hda) but move to 2.6 kernel (sda) fails
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 08:59:14AM +1000, Graham Williams wrote: > The current beta 4 debian-installer will install to SATA okay, but > treats the disk as IDE (/dev/hda). In moving to kernel 2.6.6 from sid > this uses SCSI (/dev/sda) and the reboot fails. Is there a migration > path one needs to follow? > Not an answer, but a me too ;) So when you figure out how to do this, it would be great to post your method to the list cheers dc -- David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him. 2 Chronicles 16:9a signature.asc Description: Digital signature
nmap / netcraft os detection
Hello! How can I modify debian so the system does not identify itself as a debian box? Thanks! Christopher Davis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Mark Ferlatte wrote: Katipo said on Sat, May 22, 2004 at 08:43:58AM +0800: Mark Ferlatte wrote: Uh, it is open source, and copyleft: http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/ The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we have a patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on the DomainKeys page (http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which seems to indicate that even if yahoo does have a patent on domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can implement it for free anyway. M I'm agin it. I don't care how it's dressed, it is just another form of mechanism that we are going to see much more of, that has nothing to do with spam, and everything to do with control. Did you read the spec? This has very little to do with control. All that DomainKeys allow you to do is provide a mechanism so that other mail servers can verify that you can mail from the domain that you are claiming to be From. This includes your own domain. And a short step from there is the creation of the situation where you are legally liable for anything that gets mailed from that domain, because you are the registered owner of it, no matter who has hot-wired into the situation. This is the scenario now, where if some clown steals your car and has a fatal accident, you are legally liable because you are the registered owner. Hell, Domainkeys doesn't even require that the source MTA do the signing; a properly configured MUA could sign instead, which means that it doesn't automatically break forwarding setups or roaming users, This is the source, and it does nothing to address it. but it does help verify that [EMAIL PROTECTED] actually belongs to example.com. The level of communication I have on the net is not so shallow that I cannot differentiate between what is and is not spam. I have never met you, but I can tell that you are not the poorly paid Chinese mainland advertising agent for an American pharmaceutical company with an ageing batch of V'ia-gr/a on it's hands. One man's spam is another's information, and we apply spam filters appropriately. I do not want or require any assistance with this individual process. Especially not from the likes of the large 'community' concepts, the like of Yahoo/MSN/AOL. If there exists a definition of anti-community, they are it, and I would be extremely wary of any concept advanced by them. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Friday 21 May 2004 20:23, Tom Allison wrote: > Adam Aube wrote: > > Tom Allison wrote: > >>Spam RBL's are being attacked on the legal front which puts black > >> lists in jepardy. The idea being that businesses have a legal > >> right to solicit their customers and a third party cannot block > >> that. > > > > Spammers will never win a case against RBL operators, because the > > RBLs themselves do not actually block anything. It is the the > > individual organization that decides what RBLs (if any) to use, > > and therefore it is the individual organization which sets up the > > blocking that is preventing the "legitimate solicitation of > > business". > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/12/spam_king_vs_spamcop/ > > It's articles like this one that leave me in doubt. They did get > repealed shortly after, but the fact that they made enough progress > to block spamcop is something. It's a matter of time. 21 Billion > USD can't get ignored for too long. Larceny is a multi-billion dollar industry too, but it is unlikely to get much official sanction. It is all a question of what is generally felt to be morally acceptable, and public attitudes are changing (I mean amongst the new mass netizenship). My main fear is that the backlash will be _too_ strong, and we'll have another prohibition. Prohibition always creates a black market -- look at the disaster of the war on drugs feeding the greatest underworld ever. (even further OT: http://stopthedrugwar.org/index.shtml) I am convinced that we need a mechanism to allow user-controlled (i.e. recipient-controlled) commercial promotional email. It would take some of the pressure off, and together with all the other measures could allow the spam tide to be reduced to manageable proporions, given the widespread public unhappiness with the present situation. -- richard -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3
On Friday 21 May 2004 18:22, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Brent Bailey wrote: > > Man, I hope that I don't have to re-format the whole thing... > > Nope. Just use resize2fs to shrink /home and then use the free > space to create a new partition. Move your data around as > necessary. Yes, make a much larger / -- it will rob you of very little of your large /home. You can use the old root partition for /boot. Just be careful about updating lilo.conf and running lilo. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - trivial programming language
On Friday 21 May 2004 18:56, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > I'm asking for a bit of advice here. [...] > > learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention > > of. So the question is, which do you people recommend? [...] > > A lot of languages are suited for this. A really easy language to > learn is > Python. There is also php, java and so on. php is really for talking to a webserver, which is unnecessary for the kind of things I have in mind. Java... hmmm... I keep seeing mention of Ruby, but have no idea what its strengths are. Perl seems overqualified - even though I have played with it a bit. > But if i where you i would first > have a look at Python. That makes two votes for Python (the other was off-list). I've had it in mind to find time to investigate Python -- so I'll have a go at that. Thanks for the input. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Katipo said on Sat, May 22, 2004 at 08:43:58AM +0800: > Mark Ferlatte wrote: > >Uh, it is open source, and copyleft: > > > >http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/ > > > >The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we have a > >patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on the DomainKeys > >page > >(http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which seems to indicate that even > >if > >yahoo does have a patent on domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can > >implement it for free anyway. > > > >M > > > > > I'm agin it. > I don't care how it's dressed, it is just another form of mechanism that > we are going to see much more of, that has nothing to do with spam, and > everything to do with control. Did you read the spec? This has very little to do with control. All that DomainKeys allow you to do is provide a mechanism so that other mail servers can verify that you can mail from the domain that you are claiming to be From. This includes your own domain. Hell, Domainkeys doesn't even require that the source MTA do the signing; a properly configured MUA could sign instead, which means that it doesn't automatically break forwarding setups or roaming users, but it does help verify that [EMAIL PROTECTED] actually belongs to example.com. M pgpBkZoIfRsHF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Adam Aube wrote: Tom Allison wrote: Spam RBL's are being attacked on the legal front which puts black lists in jepardy. The idea being that businesses have a legal right to solicit their customers and a third party cannot block that. Spammers will never win a case against RBL operators, because the RBLs themselves do not actually block anything. It is the the individual organization that decides what RBLs (if any) to use, and therefore it is the individual organization which sets up the blocking that is preventing the "legitimate solicitation of business". http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/12/spam_king_vs_spamcop/ It's articles like this one that leave me in doubt. They did get repealed shortly after, but the fact that they made enough progress to block spamcop is something. It's a matter of time. 21 Billion USD can't get ignored for too long. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:55:27PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Turns out to be a two year old bug. This colors my opinion of aptitude very negatively: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207 ...and: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=137771 There are apparently three package selection databases. These should be either unified or cross-validated: - dpkg - apt - aptitude Anyone else running into this? Yes. I was alternating between dselect and aptitude for a while, being careful to update in the applicable medium on each occasion before upgrading, or just installing/removing single packages. Essentially I was just looking for a preferred flavour of package manager. In the end, I didn't know where I was. I'm sticking with just aptitude at the moment to cut down on variables. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Mark Ferlatte wrote: richard lyons said on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:59:23PM -0400: On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote: Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys So, what's everyone take on this? Another software patent. Any really good idea that is to become the new standard _has_ to be released open source and copyleft. Uh, it is open source, and copyleft: http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/ The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we have a patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on the DomainKeys page (http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which seems to indicate that even if yahoo does have a patent on domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can implement it for free anyway. M I'm agin it. I don't care how it's dressed, it is just another form of mechanism that we are going to see much more of, that has nothing to do with spam, and everything to do with control. Keep the net open. That is the one factor that guarantees the creatively innovative freedom we have attained so far. If spam is the price we have to pay for that, so be it. Far better than losing it, to have it replaced by cable television, complete with ads (a more refined form of spam) on speed. Spam has its place. It's the factor that supplies the motivation for the creation of better spam filters. Who has the best ones now? Deal with the environment as it stands. The only alternative is submission to the concept of more walls and fences, and that's a trade off only sheep are prepared to accept. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge Install --> LOCALES
I'm getting a lot of errors regarding LOCALES, especially in Perl
modules when upgrading.
Example (one of many):
Setting up xprt-common (0.0.9.final-2) ...
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_CTYPE = "en_US.UTF-8",
LANG = (unset)
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
When I run 'locale' I get two warnings:
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=POSIX
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
(everything else says "POSIX")
I tried running 'local-gen' which generated a locale for
en_US.ISO-8859-1 (Nothing about UTF) and it still gives the same errors.
HELP?
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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?
> > > Has this been bug reported, do you know? > > Search:http://bugs.debian.org/ > There's a related bug, for gnome-applets (#233702). Using gkb disables switching to text consoles. I don't use .Xmodmap, so I currently can use Ctrl-Alt-F1, but I do like using gkb, so I've had this problem. The bug is not closed, and the result is that it is very uncomfortable to write text in Spanish. I tried gswitchit, but I didn't find the documentation was too user friendly, so I lost patience with it, I admit. Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can't modprobe ipsec!
Hello, I try to connect my laptop to a VPN freeswan gateway. The laptop is running Debian unstable on x86. However, when I try to modprobe ipsec on my laptop, here's the message I get: /usr/share/doc/freeswan-modules-source# modprobe ipsec /lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: init_module: Operation not permitted Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg /lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: insmod ipsec failed What's this!?! I downloaded the freeswan-modules-sources debian package, and recompiled my kernel and my modules "the debian way", as I use to do. I never had any problem with that method before. Do I need to set anything special before modprobing ipsec? I've read the doc provided by the debian team with the package, and there's nothing written about that. Thanks a lot for your help! Nicolas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D-I to SATA (hda) but move to 2.6 kernel (sda) fails
The current beta 4 debian-installer will install to SATA okay, but treats the disk as IDE (/dev/hda). In moving to kernel 2.6.6 from sid this uses SCSI (/dev/sda) and the reboot fails. Is there a migration path one needs to follow? Regards, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DVD+RW gone missing on moving to kernel 2.6.6
My "_NEC DVD+RW ND-2100AD, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive" that is easily identified under 2.4.25 (as /dev/hdc) goes missing under my 2.6.6 kernel. dmesg has no hint at all of the DVD. This is my only IDE device (using a SATA hard drive). Is this a matter of finding the right module? The machine is sid, up-to-date. Regards, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - trivial programming language
richard lyons wrote: > I'm asking for a bit of advice here. > > I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as > many fields as possible. > > I could do this by exporting to cvs, importing to gnumeric (or any > spreadsheet), shuffling the columns around, re-exporting to cvs and > importing back to abook. I'll lose a lot more than I want to, as the > abook cvs is only a partial dump. > > I could do it in BASIC - I still vaguely remember my first language! > > I could probably do it in perl - but I've never really learned perl, > and would have to work from the manual. > > But it seems to me most rational to use the opportunity to begin > learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention of. > So the question is, which do you people recommend? > > The input data will be the cvs dump from kmail, and the output will be > abook native format, which is a series of numbered paragraphs , > reminiscent of an doze .ini file. That is to say, it begins: >[2] >name=name > > [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] > address=address_1 address2=address_2 city=hereville ... > so I assume sed is less than optimal. It seems like a function I > might need again, so it is worth having it in a script. > > I really do need to equip myself with a convenient scripting language > for all these day-to-day admin tasks, and I'd like it if it can do a > little maths for me at time too. Please advise me which manual to > open. > > TIA > > -- > richard A lot of languages are suited for this. A really easy language to learn is Python. There is also php, java and so on. But if i where you i would first have a look at Python. Regards, Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Install
>- Original Message - >From: Chris >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:17 PM >Subject: Sarge Install > > >Hi all, > >I've run into an error on the debootstrap program during install. I have successfully installed Sarge before on a newer machine and >it works great. > >This machine though is an older Compaq Presario 6200. > >I get entirely through the setup to the point of: > > >Setting up base-config (2.21) ... > >Errors were encoutered while processing: > apt-utils >umount: /target/dev/pts: No such file or directory >umount: /target/dev/shm: No such file or directory >umount: /target/proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument >ln: /target/usr/bin/awk: File exists > > >And it stops there, says to check messages or pts/3. > >Currently I have no usb devices hooked into this machine, but I do know that the USB bus works. I've also successfully installed >RedHat 7.0+ on here with no problems. > >Any help or pointers would be appreciated! > >Thanks! This seems like a bug in the version of Sarge you where pulling in. I would try again later. Regards, Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anyone use pdnsd?
Does anyone use pdnsd on sid with resolvconf installed? If so what did you have to change to get it to cache anything? Is just uncommenting resolvconf and adding the semicolon in /etc/pdnsd.conf enough for you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3
Brent Bailey wrote: > On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:26, richard lyons wrote: >> On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote: >>> A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3. I >>> kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user >>> set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive. Now / is >>> full, and every other partition is hardly used. I can't mount a >>> cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need. All >>> partitions are ext3. Is there a way to add more space to / >>> (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both >>> partitions? >> >> What is your present partitioning scheme? What do df and mount say? >> > df: > /dev/sda1 135468134724 0 100% / > tmpfs 452892 0452892 0% /dev/shm > /dev/sda5 4807056 1533208 3029664 34% /usr > /dev/sda6 2885780863160 1876032 32% /var > /dev/sda715022 1060 13161 8% /tmp > /dev/sda8 68571736 5397808 59690636 9% /home > > > mount: > /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) > proc on /proc type proc (rw) > sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) > devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) > tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) > /dev/sda5 on /usr type ext3 (rw) > /dev/sda6 on /var type ext3 (rw) > /dev/sda7 on /tmp type ext3 (rw) > /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw) > usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) > none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) > >> -- >> richard Have a look at parted: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/ It might be what you are looking for. Another thing that makes live easy in such a situation is if you had installed LVM. It's designed for these kind of situations. Regards, Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3
Brent Bailey wrote: Man, I hope that I don't have to re-format the whole thing... Nope. Just use resize2fs to shrink /home and then use the free space to create a new partition. Move your data around as necessary. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress
Kent West wrote: so, question: Is it actually possible to run a different X session on the projector? Having never had a laptop I could experiment much with, I don't know. I came across something last week that led me to believe that a laptop essentially has a "second video card" which it uses for the external monitor, but I briefly experimented with an older laptop that led me to believe that was not the case at least with this laptop. Some high-end laptops (including Macs) allow the VGA out to be used to drive a second independent display. Sadly, most laptops lack this nifty feature. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: DHCP slow renewal, actually times out but mysteriously still gets an IP
Stalks wrote: I have a small network with 6 public IP addresses. The debian server runs a DHCP server. I've tried with the 'apt-get install dhcp' and am now using 'apt-get install dhcp3-server'. When my XP SP1a machine (PC4800 Deluxe with onboard 3COM Gigabit Ethernet) attempts to get an IP via DHCP, windows actually times out. *but* it *does* get an IP. By default, if a DHCP attempt times out, the client will normally use the last known good address it was given. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Compilling Kernel 2.4.25 on Debian 2.0r3
Federico Petronio wrote:
Hi, maybe somebody can help me in this:
I recently compiled the 2.4.25 linux kernel (downloaded from kernel.org)
on Debian Woody 2.0r3 (kernel 2.4) (all from stable branch) because I
need support for some SCSI controller that is not build on the 2.4
stable kernel (2.4.18-1).
Everything works well if I put all I need on the kernel, but if I try to
use modules, I find some problems:
- The initrd image could not be read correctly ("cramfs: bad magic"
is the message I get)
- "The System.map file is not appropriate to the kernel" claims ps(1).
- I get "unresolve symbol" messages when I try to insert modules.
I guess all this could be caused by incompatibility between the kernel
and the rest of the utilities needed for compilation, initrd generation,
etc. Is this possible? Or I should look for other explanation?
Thanks a lot.
How did you build your kernel? Did you build and install the initial
ramdisk (if necessary) for your new kernel?
-Roberto Sanchez
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Re: Kernel 2.6 reboot turns off the hard drives
Andrei Badea wrote: On 21.5.2004 0:58 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2004, Andrei Badea wrote: just upgraded to the 2.6 kernel (2.6.6) and when I reboot, the hard drives are turned off. They are then powered on during the boot Kernel bug. I hope it will be fixed in 2.6.7. Thank you, it seems that you are right: http://www.webservertalk.com/message220882.html I understand from this discussion that the bug only affects the 2.6.6 kernel, but not previous 2.6 versions. Do you know if that is true? Regards, Andrei The necessary patches have also been incorporated into the -mm tree. Give that a shot. It fixed the problem for me. -Roberto Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Archives of prior testing/unstable packages?
"Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I thought these were at archives.debian.org, that site's down. Or was > it somewhere else? snapshot.debian.net is where it's always been, AFAIK. -- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. pgplLMd0emOz9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:26, richard lyons wrote: > On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote: > > A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3. I > > kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user > > set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive. Now / is > > full, and every other partition is hardly used. I can't mount a > > cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need. All > > partitions are ext3. Is there a way to add more space to / > > (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both > > partitions? > > What is your present partitioning scheme? What do df and mount say? > df: /dev/sda1 135468134724 0 100% / tmpfs 452892 0452892 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda5 4807056 1533208 3029664 34% /usr /dev/sda6 2885780863160 1876032 32% /var /dev/sda715022 1060 13161 8% /tmp /dev/sda8 68571736 5397808 59690636 9% /home mount: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) /dev/sda5 on /usr type ext3 (rw) /dev/sda6 on /var type ext3 (rw) /dev/sda7 on /tmp type ext3 (rw) /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) > -- > richard > Man, I hope that I don't have to re-format the whole thing... -- Scanned by ClamAv - http://www.clamav.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress
Kent West wrote: As I stop to think about it, I can't figure out how MS-Office could accomplish this without treating the projector as a second monitor. It seems to me that Office would be sending the same signal to a single video "chain", which then gets split by the laptop into the separate display devices. So if MS-Office is using a dual-head setup (via ties to the OS, I'm sure), then OO.o/X should be able to accomplish the same thing. I just re-read your original message, and noticed this was a feature on the Mac. In that case, I'm almost certain that it's a dual-head setup. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress
Matt Price wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:30:12AM -0500, Kent West wrote: Matt Price wrote: In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office, which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously). This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress" presentation software on debian. Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup. so, question: Is it actually possible to run a different X session on the projector? Having never had a laptop I could experiment much with, I don't know. I came across something last week that led me to believe that a laptop essentially has a "second video card" which it uses for the external monitor, but I briefly experimented with an older laptop that led me to believe that was not the case at least with this laptop. As I stop to think about it, I can't figure out how MS-Office could accomplish this without treating the projector as a second monitor. It seems to me that Office would be sending the same signal to a single video "chain", which then gets split by the laptop into the separate display devices. So if MS-Office is using a dual-head setup (via ties to the OS, I'm sure), then OO.o/X should be able to accomplish the same thing. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'Applications -> Preferences -> Font' not working.
On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 05:34, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Hm... 'libmetacity' does not seem to exist on my system. > > > Tux:~# apt-get remove metacity > > Reading Package Lists... Done > > Building Dependency Tree... Done > > Package metacity is not installed, so not removed > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. > .. > > Tux:~# cd / > > Tux:/# find -name libmetacity-private.so.0 -print > > find: ./proc/3746/task: No such file or directory > > find: ./proc/4633/task: No such file or directory > > Tux:/# Sounds like a missing dependency to me. Please file a bug report against the gnome-control-center package indicating that it needs to depend on libmetacity0. Incidentally, I notice that neither 2.4.0-9 nor 2.6.1-1 has this dependency... Cheers, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3
On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote: > A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3. I > kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user > set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive. Now / is > full, and every other partition is hardly used. I can't mount a > cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need. All > partitions are ext3. Is there a way to add more space to / > (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both > partitions? What is your present partitioning scheme? What do df and mount say? -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.
It seems that Debian and the apt-get utilities have different places where they keep such information -- I had the opposite case a few weeks ago, where something I had put on hold in Deboian was not honored by dselect. Could the authors get together and straighten out the situation? on Friday 05/21/2004 Karsten M. Self([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > I just found my Galeon install inadvertantly updated (I can't say > upgraded) from 1.2.x (9ish?) to 1.3.14a-1. This despite its being > listed as "hold" in dpkg --get-selections: > > galeon hold > > I've got major reservations with where Galeon's gone in the 1.3 branch, > most of which I feel is a major step backwards. Needless to say, I'm > not particularly pleased. I don't believe I can force a revision to the > prior version, though I'll look into that. > > > This corresponds to my switching from doing 'apt-get -yu dist-upgrade' > to 'aptitude -yu dist-upgrade'. I noted a lot of packages getting > updated under aptitude that weren't being changed with apt-get. The > galeon situation is one of the more annoying of these changes. > > > This also calls for the possibility of Debian treating major revisions of > packages as separate packages. This is already done with several > development tools (gcc, perl, python, etc.). While desktop / end-user > apps don't fall quite under the same category, being able to manage this > change more precisely could be useful. > > > Peace. > > -- > Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? >Data corrupts. Absolute data corrupts absolutely. >- Ed Self's corollary of Atkinson's Law. -- John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Archives of prior testing/unstable packages?
Karsten M. Self wrote: I thought these were at archives.debian.org, that site's down. Or was it somewhere else? Desperately seeking the last best Galeon 1.2.x release. Peace. snapshot.debian.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Size of default partition with d-i beta3
A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3. I kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive. Now / is full, and every other partition is hardly used. I can't mount a cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need. All partitions are ext3. Is there a way to add more space to / (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both partitions? Thanks, Brent -- Scanned by ClamAv - http://www.clamav.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:39:35PM +, Brett Carrington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:25:24PM -0400, Bojan Baros wrote: > > And about the idea that Bill Gates floated out there, about solving > > a computer puzzle that would require 10 seconds or so of CPU time to > > send the email... Spammers already use distributed computing (some > > computers are doing it willingly, others not quite so) to send out > > spam. This would not create a huge problem if you have plenty of > > CPU cycles to spare. Agreed. They're stealing their SMTP servers. They'll steal compute servers as well. > Gates' idea is being put to use every day on this very mailing list. > Notice those GnuPG signatures lots of us seem to use? Try assigning > higher "non-spam" scores to GnuPG signed messages. Nope. You'd have to score *trusted* sigs. "Identity" qua identity is nothing. Identity + trust isn't everything, but it's a good portion of the journey. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Moderator, Free Software Law Discussion mailing list: http://lists.alt.org/mailman/listinfo/fsl-discuss/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Archives of prior testing/unstable packages?
I thought these were at archives.debian.org, that site's down. Or was it somewhere else? Desperately seeking the last best Galeon 1.2.x release. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Do not throw pearls to swine. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Screen won't work after 'su non-root-user'
on Wed, May 19, 2004 at 01:33:43PM -0700, Sean O'Dell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > If I ssh into a machine as root, then su to a non-root user, then try to run > screen, I get this error: > > Cannot?open?your?terminal?'/dev/pts/0'?-?please?check. > > I also get this error if I log into my local machine as root, then su to a > non-root user and try to run screen. > > However, if I either ssh into the remote machine, or log into the local > machine, directly as the non-root user, screen works fine. > > Both the local and remote machine are updated with the latest packages from > Debian, both unstable and testing. > > It's seems that, somehow, when I su to a non-root user, something changes > that prevents screen from working. > > Any ideas? I've run into a number of issues with screen on remote sessions. One of these is related to incorrect permissions on the PTY device files. No specific guidance, but check/Google for this. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Work is the curse of the drinking class. - Oscar Wilde signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Friday 21 May 2004 13:40, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > richard lyons said on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:59:23PM -0400: > > On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote: > > > Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys > > > > > > So, what's everyone take on this? > > > > Another software patent. Any really good idea that is to become > > the new standard _has_ to be released open source and copyleft. > > Uh, it is open source, and copyleft: > > http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/ > > The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we > have a patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on > the DomainKeys page (http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which > seems to indicate that even if yahoo does have a patent on > domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can implement it for free > anyway. I have to admit I skimmed that page in a hurry. When I saw the mention of a patent, I hastily concluded that this looked like they were setting up a situation where they could distribute freely in order to establish a userbase and then reclaim their rights as patentholders. Unfair of me to be so suspicious. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice
Clyde Wilson wrote: Joris Huizer wrote: Clyde Wilson wrote: I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port. If I do a 'echo "OK" > /dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output. Is there something I need to do to get the right device? You can find information about all sorts of printers at http://linuxprinting.org/ Also, make sure you have the usb printer module in the kernel enabled (search by using modconf, in the usb section (in my 2.6.6 custom kernel it's under kernel/drivers/usb/class, called usblp) Thanks for the speedy answer, Joris. I tried modconf, but I can't find anything to do with printers or usb devices. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Hello Clyde Wilson, Take a look here: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Hardware/Getting_USB_and_Your_Printer_Working.html For usb printing, you'll have to upgrade to a 2.4 kernel - or a 2.6 kernel , but coming from 2.2 that'd be a big leap I guess. There are some 2.4 kernel images available as debian packages or you could try and compile a custom kernel. HTH, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.
on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:55:27PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Turns out to be a two year old bug. This colors my opinion of aptitude > very negatively: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207 ...and: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=137771 There are apparently three package selection databases. These should be either unified or cross-validated: - dpkg - apt - aptitude Anyone else running into this? Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? IANAL, but from what I've read on slashdot... - File under "famous last words" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT - trivial programming language
On Fri, 21 May 2004 14:55:35 -0400
richard lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm asking for a bit of advice here.
>
> I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as
> many fields as possible.
>
[ ... ]
>
> I could probably do it in perl - but I've never really learned perl,
> and would have to work from the manual.
>
Perl is a great language. I think it can solve many issues quickly, but it does
appear large and overwhelming at first.
>
> I really do need to equip myself with a convenient scripting language
> for all these day-to-day admin tasks, and I'd like it if it can do a
> little maths for me at time too. Please advise me which manual to
> open.
>
Until this past year, I used three primary tools in conjunction with the Bourne Shell
for my "day-to-day admin tasks": sed, grep and awk. With these three tools you can
manipulate text to your heart's content. In this case, if I didn't want to use perl,
awk is a good choice. For example,
echo "hanson,carlos,[EMAIL PROTECTED],123 street,somewhere,555-1234" |
awk '
BEGIN { FS="," }
{
printf ("[%s]\n", NR)
printf ("name=%s %s\n", $2, $1)
printf ("email=%s\n", $3)
printf ("address=%s\n", $4)
printf ("city=%s\n", $5)
printf ("phone=%s\n", $6)
printf ("\n")
}'
but the equivalent in perl script is
#!/usr/bin/perl
my $count = 1;
while (<>) {
chomp;
my @record = split(/,/);
printf ("[%s]\n", $count++);
printf ("name=%s %s\n", $record[1], $record[0]);
printf ("email=%s\n", $record[2]);
printf ("address=%s\n", $record[3]);
printf ("city=%s\n", $record[4]);
printf ("phone=%s\n", $record[5]);
printf ("\n");
}
If I was to do something quick on the command line, I would use sed, grep and awk.
Otherwise, I try to use perl. Perl is a combination of those tools and more.
Enjoy.
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Re: aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.
on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I just found my Galeon install inadvertantly updated (I can't say > upgraded) from 1.2.x (9ish?) to 1.3.14a-1. This despite its being > listed as "hold" in dpkg --get-selections: > > galeonhold > > I've got major reservations with where Galeon's gone in the 1.3 branch, > most of which I feel is a major step backwards. Needless to say, I'm > not particularly pleased. I don't believe I can force a revision to the > prior version, though I'll look into that. > > > This corresponds to my switching from doing 'apt-get -yu dist-upgrade' > to 'aptitude -yu dist-upgrade'. I noted a lot of packages getting > updated under aptitude that weren't being changed with apt-get. The > galeon situation is one of the more annoying of these changes. > > > This also calls for the possibility of Debian treating major revisions of > packages as separate packages. This is already done with several > development tools (gcc, perl, python, etc.). While desktop / end-user > apps don't fall quite under the same category, being able to manage this > change more precisely could be useful. Turns out to be a two year old bug. This colors my opinion of aptitude very negatively: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=146207 One of the core strengths of Debian is that it does what I tell it to do (if doing so doesn't break things horribly -- and even then, it just questions my sanity and does so anyhow if I insist). Having user preferences silently and irrevocably overridden is pretty bad. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? The black hat community is drooling over the possibility of a secure execution environment that would allow applications to run in a secure area which cannot be attached to via debuggers. - Jason Spence, on Palladium aka NGCSB aka "Trusted Computing" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.
I just found my Galeon install inadvertantly updated (I can't say upgraded) from 1.2.x (9ish?) to 1.3.14a-1. This despite its being listed as "hold" in dpkg --get-selections: galeon hold I've got major reservations with where Galeon's gone in the 1.3 branch, most of which I feel is a major step backwards. Needless to say, I'm not particularly pleased. I don't believe I can force a revision to the prior version, though I'll look into that. This corresponds to my switching from doing 'apt-get -yu dist-upgrade' to 'aptitude -yu dist-upgrade'. I noted a lot of packages getting updated under aptitude that weren't being changed with apt-get. The galeon situation is one of the more annoying of these changes. This also calls for the possibility of Debian treating major revisions of packages as separate packages. This is already done with several development tools (gcc, perl, python, etc.). While desktop / end-user apps don't fall quite under the same category, being able to manage this change more precisely could be useful. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Data corrupts. Absolute data corrupts absolutely. - Ed Self's corollary of Atkinson's Law. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:30:12AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Matt Price wrote: > > > >In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office, > >which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't > >passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously). > > > >This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress" > >presentation software on debian. I wonder whether it might be > >possible to do something tricky with X that makes this possible -- > >like, say, run one X session on the projector, a different one on the > >laptop lcd, and then remotely access the projector screen from within > >the laptop x session? Does this sound plausible > > > >I'd love to hear opinions. > > > Sounds like it should work. > > Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a > second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup. Then you only have > one X session, but you can move the Impress window to the second head > (projector). Of course that means you'll have to watch the projection > screen to follow along with your own presentation, so your method is > probably better. so, question: Is it actually possible to run a different X session on the projector? On reflection, it seems impossible, since the projector gets its signal from the laptop video out; if it's configured as a dual-head setup, I getthe problem you described; otherwise, the projector is a simple mirror of what happens on the lcd screen. Or do the vast complexities of x hide possibilities I haven't dreamed of (well, I know they do, but possibilities that would HELP me here...)? thx as always, m > > /Kent > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge Install
Hi all, I've run into an error on the debootstrap program during install. I have successfully installed Sarge before on a newer machine and it works great. This machine though is an older Compaq Presario 6200. I get entirely through the setup to the point of: Setting up base-config (2.21) ... Errors were encoutered while processing: apt-utils umount: /target/dev/pts: No such file or directory umount: /target/dev/shm: No such file or directory umount: /target/proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument ln: /target/usr/bin/awk: File exists And it stops there, says to check messages or pts/3. Currently I have no usb devices hooked into this machine, but I do know that the USB bus works. I've also successfully installed RedHat 7.0+ on here with no problems. Any help or pointers would be appreciated! Thanks!
from header class btwn mutt and mailman?
hey folks, I've just realized that mutt has been sending out messages using a private address (matt - at - derailleur - org) instead of the 'form' header set in my .muttrc: set from = [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried grep -ir derailleur /etc/* ad the only relevant entry I could find was: mailman/mm_cfg.py:DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'www.derailleur.org' so my question: can mailman override mutt's 'from' header somehow? It seems bizarre and unlikely. But there's nothing at all in my .muttrc containing the string "derailleur" -- so I don't see how mutt would even encounter that address! Anyway, I find it puzzling. thx, matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?
on Fri, May 21, 2004 at 08:49:24AM -0400, Norman Walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > / Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > [...] > | I started a thread on this a few weeks ago. The consensus was that if > | you are using xmodmap the above command doesn't work. I have to live > | with it at present. > > Bleh. That's it alright. I removed my .Xmodmap and the problem went away. > From casual inspection of my .Xmodmap file, last edited in 2001, it's not > clear if I'll care that I'm not using it anymore. Depends on what you're mapping. I swap and , but nothing else. Modifying the keypress to works. I of course think of that as . > Has this been bug reported, do you know? Search:http://bugs.debian.org/ Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? The revolution will not be televised. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
DHCP slow renewal, actually times out but mysteriously still gets an IP
I have a small network with 6 public IP addresses. The debian server runs a DHCP
server. I've tried
with the 'apt-get install dhcp' and am now using 'apt-get install dhcp3-server'.
When my XP SP1a machine (PC4800 Deluxe with onboard 3COM Gigabit Ethernet) attempts to
get an IP via
DHCP, windows actually times out. *but* it *does* get an IP.
For instance ...
C:\>ipconfig /release
Windows IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
C:\>ipconfig /renew
Windows IP Configuration
An error occurred while renewing interface Local Area Connection : unable to
contact your
DHCP server. Request has timed out.
C:\>ipconfig
Windows IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : nooblet.org
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 81.168.82.220
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.248
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.168.82.217
C:\>
This has the added effect that any startup programs are unable to access the internet,
as the
"ipconfig /renew" command takes up to 2mins to time-out, I dont get an IP on boot-up
for 2 mins.
Anti-virus complains it cant update its definitions and MSN Messenger gives up
connecting. The same
problem is on another XP machine (also SP1a, PC-Chips motherboard with onboard Realtek
100mbps NIC),
but that refuses to startup until it has an IP, therefore sits at a blank desktop for
1 or 2 mins
before loading (which to be honest is actually preffered as that means it has no
startup issues with
internet connection).
A workaround would be to issue a static IP to each PC, but I would really like to get
this working
as it should.
More info ...
Here is logs from /var/log/syslog concerning an ipconfig /renew from this PC,
# nooblet is the server name, 81.168.82.220 is this PC
# I first restarted the dhcp3-server process
May 21 14:24:13 nooblet dhcpd: Wrote 0 deleted host decls to leases file.
May 21 14:24:13 nooblet dhcpd: Wrote 0 new dynamic host decls to leases file.
May 21 14:24:13 nooblet dhcpd: Wrote 0 leases to leases file.
# ipconfig /release
May 21 14:24:53 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPRELEASE of 81.168.82.220 from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via
br0 (not found)
# ipconfing /renew (start)
May 21 14:25:00 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:00 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:05 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:05 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:13 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:13 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:30 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:25:30 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 81.168.82.220 (0.0.0.0) from
00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
May 21 14:26:06 nooblet dhcpd: DHCPACK on 81.168.82.220 to 00:0c:6e:70:29:33 via br0
# ipconfig /renew (end, finally get an ACK)
And my DHCP config ...
([EMAIL PROTECTED](/var/lib/dhcp)>cat /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
#
# default options
#
server-identifier nooblet;
default-lease-time 86400;
max-lease-time 86400;
option domain-name "nooblet.org";
option domain-name-servers 81.168.82.217;
option host-name"nooblet";
option routers 81.168.82.217;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.248;
option time-offset 0;
option time-servers 81.168.82.219;
option netbios-name-servers 81.168.82.219;
#
# dynamically leased ip, will be receiving a further 12 IPs soon but for now there is
only one free
#
subnet 81.168.82.216 netmask 255.255.255.248{
range 81.168.82.222;
}
#
# static ip based on mac address
#
host stalks {
hardware ethernet 00:0C:6E:70:29:33;
fixed-address 81.168.82.220;
}
host bambi {
hardware ethernet 00:0D:87:AA:B1:8B;
fixed-address 81.168.82.221;
}
I understand this may be a windows issue, and if you feel I have posted in the
wrong newsgroup then
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OT - trivial programming language
I'm asking for a bit of advice here. I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as many fields as possible. I could do this by exporting to cvs, importing to gnumeric (or any spreadsheet), shuffling the columns around, re-exporting to cvs and importing back to abook. I'll lose a lot more than I want to, as the abook cvs is only a partial dump. I could do it in BASIC - I still vaguely remember my first language! I could probably do it in perl - but I've never really learned perl, and would have to work from the manual. But it seems to me most rational to use the opportunity to begin learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention of. So the question is, which do you people recommend? The input data will be the cvs dump from kmail, and the output will be abook native format, which is a series of numbered paragraphs , reminiscent of an doze .ini file. That is to say, it begins: [2] name=name [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] address=address_1 address2=address_2 city=hereville ... so I assume sed is less than optimal. It seems like a function I might need again, so it is worth having it in a script. I really do need to equip myself with a convenient scripting language for all these day-to-day admin tasks, and I'd like it if it can do a little maths for me at time too. Please advise me which manual to open. TIA -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logical drive limitation
on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 09:57:13AM -0700, Ken Guo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > Can you please tell me the drive size limitation of debian Linux. We > have a customer who create a 2.8 TB logical drive, but the debian > Linux host only see 0.34TB. For more information: http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/IA64wiki/LargeBlockDevices Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Ah, well, then I suppose I shall have to die beyond my means. - Oscar Wilde, dying words. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: fun Re: Copy Linux Filesystem/Check/Compare Filesystems
Alvin Oga wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2004, Silvan wrote: On Wednesday 19 May 2004 07:20 pm, Doug MacFarlane wrote: .. Any suggestions? Just exactly how would one tar one filesystem to another, without the intermediate tar file? mount /new-disk /mnt/new -- abort -- abort if failed tar cf - /home /var /whatever-you-want | ( cd /mnt/new ; tar xvfp - ) umount /mnt/new - you can figure out what directories to cp over and which ones yu don't touch ( /tmp, /mnt, /proc .. ) if ! (mount /mnt/backup); then echo "ERROR! Could not mount /mnt/backup!" echo "Abort, abort, abort!!!" exit 1 fi good to manually mount backups ... :-) rsync -uax --delete / /mnt/backup/ rsync -uax --delete /boot /mnt/backup/ rsync -uax --delete /var /mnt/backup/ rsync -uax --delete /home /mnt/backup/ wouldn't the first rysnc of "/" backup everything including /boot, /var... - and worst still, rsycing of /tmp and /proc is a very bad idea which means you manually list all the directories you do want rysnc to the other box and i dont like --deletes, just in case i delete a directory/file and a week later, i decide, oh shit, wish i had that file from last week or last year and nope, i dont use rsync ... except to d/l and [r]sync other peoples stuff like kernel.org locally c ya alvin man rsync: -x, --one-file-system don't cross filesystem boundaries signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: /dev/md0 and udev
Sorry to be stupid, put I can't find much documentation on the udev/links.conf file. Would I add the following to links.conf in order to create /dev/md0? M md0b 9 0 I'm not sure of the distinction between L, D, M in the file, though I assume L is link, D is directory and M is some sort of make. Thanks, Richard --- John L Fjellstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Weil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm running Sarge with a 2.6.5 kernel. I'm trying > to > > create a RAID 5 array of three disks (though for > > initial setup I'm only using two of three). When I > > reboot, udev does not re-create my /dev/md0 > device, so > > the RAID array won't start. Any suggestions? > > udev won't create the md? devices because the RAID > never notifies > udev/sysfs about it. The just have a thread about > on the udev mailing > list. You need to create the md? devices manually > by putting it in the > /etc/udev/links.conf file > > -- > John L. Fjellstad > web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis > custodiet ipsos custodes > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba and network printing
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:28:01AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > hi ya john > > On Thu, 20 May 2004, John L Fjellstad wrote: > > > CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > >> Now, the smb user is my guest user. I'm not sure why it tries to log in > > > > > > You may be having your account mapped to you guest user. > > > IIRC the things that are required are: > > > 1. User is in the printer admin group > > doesn't matter ... lpd or other printer daemons take care of it for the > users including root The OP is having problems adding printer drivers to the [print$] share for auto downloading by windows clients. I believe all the printing is working fine. -- Chris Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GNU/Linux --- The best things in life are free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba and network printing
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 02:24:38PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote: > CW Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Now, the smb user is my guest user. I'm not sure why it tries to log in > > > > You may be having your account mapped to you guest user. > > IIRC the things that are required are: > > 1. User is in the printer admin group > > 2. User has a valid smb password/account > > 3. User must be able to write to the *nix directory where > >samba stores the printer driver info. > > But I don't understand what my account has anything to do with it, since > I'm logging in as root, and root does have rights to the printer driver > directory. By "User" I meant the user you were connecting as (root in your case), sorry for being unclear. Okay, re-reading the thread and some Samba docs... It seems that root may be special and may *not* have to be in "printer admin", but then again other docs seem to show using a "printer admin = root" global, so I'm not certain. Or, I found this one ref. to an auth. problem with cupsaddsmb and a Samba PDC which may be related: http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/howto/CUPS-printing.html#id2565677 Perhaps you need to include the "domain" portion? They indicate using rpcclient -U "DOMAIN\root%passwd" if I read it correctly. HTH P.S. I am really getting curious about this. Windows printer drivers (even under Samba) seem too much like black magic. Please let me know when you find a solution. -- Chris Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GNU/Linux --- The best things in life are free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
richard lyons said on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:59:23PM -0400: > On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote: > > Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys > > > > So, what's everyone take on this? > > > > Another software patent. Any really good idea that is to become the > new standard _has_ to be released open source and copyleft. Uh, it is open source, and copyleft: http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/ The only reference to possible patent issues is the general "if we have a patent on it, you get a royalty-free license" statement on the DomainKeys page (http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys), which seems to indicate that even if yahoo does have a patent on domainkeys, it doesn't matter, 'cause you can implement it for free anyway. M pgpNout6gX0Kl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Question about Exim
Greetings everyone, I set up an Exim mail filter file containing the following: # Exim filter if $h_X-Amavis-Hold contains " " then freeze endif Is there a better condition that will test just for the existence of the header? I have tried def: without any luck. If anyone knows how, that would be great, otherwise I'll still with what I have. PS. I am subscribed to neither of these list, please CC me in replies. -- Phillip Hofmeister PGP/GPG Key: http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/ wget -O - http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/key.asc | gpg --import -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPS Package Tracking Information
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Re: Another shell scripting question
Is it just more efficient in resources to use plain #! /bin/sh rather than bash? No, it just makes your script more portable to systems that might not have bash. Some systems that /do/ have bash installed have /bin/sh linked to it, but some don't have bash by default or choice (Solaris, FreeBSD, et al.) -- David Piniella University of Miami -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/md0 and udev
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:44:51PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote: > Richard Weil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm running Sarge with a 2.6.5 kernel. I'm trying to > > create a RAID 5 array of three disks (though for > > initial setup I'm only using two of three). When I > > reboot, udev does not re-create my /dev/md0 device, so > > the RAID array won't start. Any suggestions? > > udev won't create the md? devices because the RAID never notifies > udev/sysfs about it. The just have a thread about on the udev mailing > list. You need to create the md? devices manually by putting it in the > /etc/udev/links.conf file > Whats the udev email list location? Is there any irc channel for udev, by udev developers, or experts? Thank you John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice
Joris Huizer wrote: Clyde Wilson wrote: I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port. If I do a 'echo "OK" > /dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output. Is there something I need to do to get the right device? You can find information about all sorts of printers at http://linuxprinting.org/ Also, make sure you have the usb printer module in the kernel enabled (search by using modconf, in the usb section (in my 2.6.6 custom kernel it's under kernel/drivers/usb/class, called usblp) Thanks for the speedy answer, Joris. I tried modconf, but I can't find anything to do with printers or usb devices. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? HTH, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Needs Printer Advice
welly hartanto wrote: --- Clyde Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a printer that hooks up to my USB port. If I do a 'echo "OK" > /dev/usb/lp0' I don't get any output. Is there something I need to do to get the right device? Are you using udev ? which kernel is your system running ? Thnks for the help, Welly. I really appreciate it! I don't know if I'm using udev. What is it? My kernel version is 2.2. Several days ago, this happen to me. The solusion is : cd /dev /sbin/MAKEDEV usb I did this and it did create /dev/usb which is a directory full of lp0 etc. Is there a simple command like 'echo "OK" > /dev/usb/lp0' that will print something? I'm running sid kernel 2.6.5. --welly-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer
[SOLVED] No sound in Gnome
Sorry list, problem solved. Symlinked /dev/dsp0 to /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer to /dev/mixer0. Didn't have speaker volume turned up :) D'oh! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No sound in Gnome (Sarge, SoundBlaster card, Gnome 2.4.1)
So far Google reveals only that SoundBlaster cards sometimes misbehave. I couldn't find anything specific about not getting any sound out of Gnome with a SoundBlaster Live 5.1 card. I have the correct modules loaded (2.6.3 kernel, snd-emu10k1, snd/sound/coundcore, ac97-codec), fixed permissions on /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp, and added myself to the audio group. Looking in /proc/driver/emu10k1/:00:0f.0 : $ cat info: Driver Version : 0.20a Card type : Emu10k1 Revision : 10 Model : 0x8064 IO : 0xa800-0xa81f IRQ: 18 Registered /dev Entries: /dev/dsp0 /dev/dsp1 /dev/mixer0 /dev/midi0 /dev/sequencer $ cat ac97: Vendor name : Unknown Vendor id: 454D 4328 AC97 Version : 2.0 or later Capabilities : DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit- ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit- 3D enhancement : No 3D Stereo Enhancement POP path : pre 3D Sim. stereo : off 3D enhancement : off Loudness : off Mono output : MIX MIC select : MIC1 ADC/DAC loopback : off Ext Capabilities : -PCM surround DAC- -slot/DAC mappings- Front DAC rate : 0 --- Looks like /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer aren't handled by the device driver under "Registered /dev Entries" so nothing's happening when applications use /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer. But if I cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp I do get a hissing sound, leading me to believe that I am completely confused and out of my depth... I'm not sure how to instruct Gnome to use /dev/dsp0 or /dev/dsp1, or /dev/mixer0 or /dev/mixer1, or whatever it is that I must do. Any help appreciated, Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "presenter view" in OOo Impress
Matt Price wrote: Hey folks, was justreading this article inthe New York Times about the new version of MS Office for Mac: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/20/technology/circuits/20stat.html In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office, which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously). This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress" presentation software on debian. I wonder whether it might be possible to do something tricky with X that makes this possible -- like, say, run one X session on the projector, a different one on the laptop lcd, and then remotely access the projector screen from within the laptop x session? Does this sound plausible I'd love to hear opinions. thx, matt Sounds like it should work. Another idea might be to configure your laptop to use the projector as a second head, and configure X as a dual-head setup. Then you only have one X session, but you can move the Impress window to the second head (projector). Of course that means you'll have to watch the projection screen to follow along with your own presentation, so your method is probably better. /Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Tom Allison wrote: > Spam RBL's are being attacked on the legal front which puts black lists in > jepardy. The idea being that businesses have a legal right to solicit > their customers and a third party cannot block that. Spammers will never win a case against RBL operators, because the RBLs themselves do not actually block anything. It is the the individual organization that decides what RBLs (if any) to use, and therefore it is the individual organization which sets up the blocking that is preventing the "legitimate solicitation of business". Therefore the spammer would have to sue the individual organizations, because they are the ones who actually setup the blocking. But the mail servers in question are private property, and the organizations have the right to refuse access to their server based on whatever criteria they may choose. So the spammers don't have a case there, either. This, of course, won't keep the spammers from trying - they do it not to win, but only to scare/bankrupt an RBL or organization into crumbling. Tort reform that requires the plaintiff to pay the defendant's legal costs in frivolous civil cases would fix that problem. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Debian bootup
On 5/21/04 12:09 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a box that today experienced a power failure. When I rebooted, it > wasn't even pingable. I brought it upstairs (no minotor in the basement) > and noticed that I was always pausing during the boot sequence at a root > prompt. Seems to have just brought the network up and then stopped at > this root prompt. If I type 'exit', the boot continues as if nothing > happened. As this is a server machine, I can't just leave a keyboard > attached waiting for someone to happen along and type 'exit'. :) That sounds like single-user mode. Are you using lilo? Also, what's in your inittab? -- Turn yourself into a mental hospital before you become some kind of hideous online monster like turmeric. --- RyoCokey http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2002/11/1/21955/0099/2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"presenter view" in OOo Impress
Hey folks, was justreading this article inthe New York Times about the new version of MS Office for Mac: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/20/technology/circuits/20stat.html In it, the author discusses a new "presenter tools" view in MS office, which lets you see extra information on your laptop screen that isn't passed on to the projector (this is for powerpoint, obviously). This is something I would LOVE to emulate in openoffice "impress" presentation software on debian. I wonder whether it might be possible to do something tricky with X that makes this possible -- like, say, run one X session on the projector, a different one on the laptop lcd, and then remotely access the projector screen from within the laptop x session? Does this sound plausible I'd love to hear opinions. thx, matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: print to a hp lj 5l through tcp/ip
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:36:50PM +0200, LeVA wrote: > | Hi! > | > | I have a hp laserjet 5l printer in my network, and listens on tcp port > | 9100. A few month ago (when I used woody), I could use the socket:// > | protocoll to connect to it. But after I've upgraded to sarge, I can > not > | even select the tcp/ip protocoll when I'm adding a new printer. I can > | only choose from smb, and lpt. > | Anyone know how to use this kind of printer? > From: "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Perhaps you need to run > dpkg-reconfigure -plow cupsys > and select 'socket' as one of the "enabled" backends. > > -D Thanks a lot, now it's working! Daniel -- LeVA pgp5zndlL6Hdr.pgp Description: signature
Re: Linksys Router Setup Failure - Fixed
The victory is not particularly satisfying as I don't know how we fixed the problem. On the plus side,the Linksys tech support was alway immediately reachable and worked tirelessly in four long phone sessions to find and fix the problem. On the negative side I had to do all this on my grandson's laptop running Windows XP Pro. I am sure I had already tried everything the tech support people suggested. One of those actions must have been correct but required a reboot although there was no message to this effect. While it is frustrating not to know what fixed the problem it may never come up again as this was a one time setup which should remain in effect until setup is run again. Finally, I really suspect that there has been a security change which prevented me from doing this running Linux. Specifically, reaching the setup page requires a DHCP setup. Our LAN normally uses fixed IP addresses. When I changed one system to DHCP a link came up immediately but still when the IP address of the setup page was entered in Mozilla there was an immediate message that the connection was refused. Another indication of this problem came this morning when I tried to re-setup the Belkin UPS. This must be done as root but in a display. Using xdm and icewm I would open a terminal, su root, open the display and make the necessary changes. I can no longer open the display. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Number of Loop devices
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 10:52:24PM -0500, david wrote: > I would like to know how to mount more than 8 loop devices (if this is > permited by the kernel). Hi david, you can pass the max_loop= option to the loop device driver; if you're loading it as a module, pass it as a parameter to insmod - if the support is compiled into the kernel, append it to your boot options. > Why are there only 8 /dev/loop? devices (0-7). That's just the default number of loop devices. If you need more, create more (see mknod(8); block device, major 7, minor number should match the number in the name). HTH, Jan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Compilling Kernel 2.4.25 on Debian 2.0r3
Hi, maybe somebody can help me in this:
I recently compiled the 2.4.25 linux kernel (downloaded from kernel.org)
on Debian Woody 2.0r3 (kernel 2.4) (all from stable branch) because I
need support for some SCSI controller that is not build on the 2.4
stable kernel (2.4.18-1).
Everything works well if I put all I need on the kernel, but if I try to
use modules, I find some problems:
- The initrd image could not be read correctly ("cramfs: bad magic" is
the message I get)
- "The System.map file is not appropriate to the kernel" claims ps(1).
- I get "unresolve symbol" messages when I try to insert modules.
I guess all this could be caused by incompatibility between the kernel
and the rest of the utilities needed for compilation, initrd generation,
etc. Is this possible? Or I should look for other explanation?
Thanks a lot.
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Re: Number of Loop devices
Am 20.05.2004 um 22:52 schrieb david: > I would like to know how to mount more than 8 loop devices (if this is > permited by the kernel). You probably have loop loaded into the kernel as a module. The loop module has a parameter to specify the number of available devices. To set this option permanently, add this line to a new file called /etc/modutils/loop: options loop max_loop=16 Make sure that loop is not in use and run update-modules rmmod loop modprobe loop If your loop driver is compiled into the kernel, append "max_loop=16" (or an other suitable number) to the kernel command line in your boot loader. Regards, Dennis -- Send private mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] only. Mails going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will not reach me unless they are sent via the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dynamic DNS Setup
There is an open source solution for this called DHIS. http://www.dhis.org/r5/downloads.html You can install their server and client software so that *you* get to run the nameserver. If this doesn't do what you need then it shouldn't be too hard to write a script to handle this for you. I use a script on my clients and servers so that I have better control over exactly what happens. <|>/\\/|<|> - Original Message - From: "Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Dynamic DNS Setup > At 02:27 PM 5/20/04, Paul Johnson wrote: > >Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Can debian support dynamic dns ? Where can I find the info and how to > > > configure it ? > > > >If we're talking about dyndns.org's services, I would suggest > >http://www.dyndns.org/ or nntp://news.dyndns.org/dyndns.general for > >more information. > > > >Does this help? > > > >-- > >Paul Johnson > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more. > > Hi! Paul > > How about to configure debian server as Dynamic DNS Server ? > > > > Best Regards, > Support > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla remote control not working
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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?
/ Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: [...] | I started a thread on this a few weeks ago. The consensus was that if | you are using xmodmap the above command doesn't work. I have to live | with it at present. Bleh. That's it alright. I removed my .Xmodmap and the problem went away. From casual inspection of my .Xmodmap file, last edited in 2001, it's not clear if I'll care that I'm not using it anymore. Has this been bug reported, do you know? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | There is no safety in numbers, or in http://nwalsh.com/| anything else.--James Thurber pgpo2lrfAf5OT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge Kernel 2.6 and (K)dm)
Hello Björn, I had the same problem with SID. First of all I had to update /etc/modules: (Commented entries were working with kernel 2.4) #usb-uhci uhci-hcd #input #usbkbd #keybdev psmouse mousedev e100 #ide-scsi usb-storage With kernel 2.6 PS/2 mouses have an own kernel module. My active mouse section from /etc/X11/XF86config-4 looks like this: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection I hope that's all (i'm not 100% sure). Tim Am Freitag, 21. Mai 2004 09:30 schrieb Björn Wolter: > Ich habe installed a current snapshot of sarge > the i installed the kernel 2.6.4 image > > now i cant boot directly into X. > I use kdm as the login manager... > > kdm.log and XFree86*.log tells me that he has no core pointer, also he > cannot open /dev/input/mice. > > strange is.. when i log in as root, and start kde with /etc/init.d/kdm > start, he runs kdm and no errors like no core pointer appears. > > i have reconfigured the device section in XF86Config-4 to /dev/psaux and > /dev/input/mice -> all the same result. > > when i start debian with kernel 2.4.x kdm works well... > > so it must be problem with kernel 2.6 > > my mouse device section looks like this > .. > Identifier "Generic Mouse" > Driver "mouse" > Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" > Option "Protocol""ImPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > .. > > has someone a tip for me to run X (kdm) with kernel 2.6 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Tim Connors wrote: Gates' idea is being put to use every day on this very mailing list. Notice those GnuPG signatures lots of us seem to use? Try assigning higher "non-spam" scores to GnuPG signed messages. So spammers will simply write their own pgp signatures. After all, PGP only tells you that the person who signed the message was the one who wrote it. Unfortunately, PGP doesn't come with an evil-bit. Reemember, anything the anti-spam community can do, the spammers can do as well. We are very much fighting a losing battle, and only buy (with lots of effort if you want to change the way email works) small amounts of time. The only solution is education, but unforuntalely, 50% of the population are just too god damn fucking stupid to get it - witness the spam for some kind of drug with plenty of spelling errors, that advertises that the business is being shut down by the drugs administration, so get in quick. Who could possibly be so fucking stupid to respond to an ad like that? Unfortunately, enough people to make the whole business profitable. Spam is a BILLION dollar industry. Get that into your head and then you'll realize that Spam will NEVER go away. Too many people buy it, too many companies profit from it. If everyone goes to SPF then all you need to do is set up your own ISP and SPF all the spammers and make millions. Spam RBL's are being attacked on the legal front which puts black lists in jepardy. The idea being that businesses have a legal right to solicit their customers and a third party cannot block that. Bitch all you want, but not to me... Trying to perfectly block spam through a policy (SPF, DNS TXT entries...) is like trying to block advertisement on radio and television. TV advertisers attack TiVO. Public Radio has ads, but they don't call it that. What makes you think that the Government agencies around the world aren't going to gaurantee some loophole will always exist for spammers? They (spammers) contribute millions of dollars to politicians to guarantee that they stay in business with as little "real" impact as possible. Look at the US CAN-SPAM act. It's an embarassment that I live in this stupid country. Spam is legal under CAN-SPAM and you and I cannot take legal action against them. Only the ISP's can. And a quick change of will solve that problem too but you'll never be able to prove it. The only method with any potential enduring effect will be from a "grass-roots" perspective (God I hate that term these days, it's been so perversed). If you don't come up with something on your own, you will get spam. If you come up with something that is shared you may be attacked. razor and pyzor have both been heavily compromised so there's little effect there. RBL's are our best chance, but they may not survive legal assaults for very long. It's a billion dollar industry, both sides of it. And it's going to get really ugly. IMHO, much of what was no longer exists and much of what is to come will pretty much suck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge Kernel 2.6 and (K)dm)
Nico De Ranter wrote: I had the same problem after upgrading the kernel to 2.6. Mouse was gone completely in X, no way to get it back. I recompiled the kernel and everything works fine now. I'm not sure which change did the trick (I made a lot of changes to the kernel config). Nico i think i have found it. it looks like the default debian 2.6 has ps/2 support only as module not directly build in. i have add the ps/2 module in /etc/modules so the module is loaded automaticly at boottime, and now kdm,xdm,gdm works fine with the 2.6 kernel. simple, but you have to found it out... bye... bjoern -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suexec path wrong?
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 12:49:36 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [2004-05-11 12:16:14]: error: command not in docroot > (/home/site.tld/perltest.cgi) > It is in the document root, No it isn't. > its in the folder apacheis set up for that useer DocumentRoot, Sure, but suexec doesn't care about that. It cares about the DOC_ROOT setting it's been compiled for, which is "/var/www" in Debian. HTH, Ray -- Lately, the only thing keeping me from being a serial killer is my distaste for manual labor. Dilbert in http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20010107.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Friday 21 May 2004 03:38, Tim Connors wrote: [...] > So spammers will simply write their own pgp signatures. > > After all, PGP only tells you that the person who signed the > message was the one who wrote it. Unfortunately, PGP doesn't come > with an evil-bit. > > Reemember, anything the anti-spam community can do, the spammers > can do as well. We are very much fighting a losing battle, and only > buy (with lots of effort if you want to change the way email works) > small amounts of time. [...] Without wanting to start another war about spam here, I'd just like to say that I think you are missing the point of SPF - or Yahoo's offering. They are primarily aimed at verifying mail doesn't have forged headers. Certainly over 95% of the thousands I receive monthly have forged headers. Also the bulk of the virus/worm spew has forged headers. If spammers used verifyable send addresses, complaints would be simple. I see no reason why people shouldn't buy dodgy pharmaceuticals if they want to. I myself would opt into some sectors of advertising email if any opt-in system became practical (not pharmaceutical supplies, though). But no opt-in or filtering system is workable while most emails are unreplyable because the headers are forged. Eliminate that problem, and the remaining question of spam control becomes more manageable by a range of measures. And remember that prohibition always creates a black market. The prefered solution has to be more permissive. Which means "let those who want do it, as long as I don't have to be inconvenienced". I do agree with you about education, though. People should learn _never_ to buy from someone whose reply email address is suspect -- never even to click on a link, never even to open the mail. If we all did that the flow would dry up. Of course, that is what SPF would do for us automatically. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla remote control not working
/ Michael Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | Norman wrote: |> After an upgrade last week (on unstable), remote control no longer |> works. |> I can start firefox just fine, but if I attempt to load another |> window, nothing happens. A little debugging revealed that the remote |> control app doesn't know that there's an instance running. In fact, if |> I dig my way through the shell scripts and run | | Have you tried running: | | firefox www.website.co.uk | | as I think the firefox script deals with the -remote stuff | automagically. Yeah, it does, but it does it by running the -remote stuff that doesn't work. Actually, looking at the sh -x output led me a little further. It turns out that the -remote stuff sort-of works: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 'openurl()' works, it pops up a dialog asking what to open. /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 'openurl(localhost)' works, it loads localhost in whatever window/tab it thinks is current. /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 'openurl(localhost,new-tab)' works, it loads localhost in a new tab in whatever window it thinks is current. /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-xremote-client 'openurl(localhost,new-window)' doesn't work at all. Is there some setting I've frobbed? Could this be related to the tabbrowser extension? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | One must look for one thing only, to http://nwalsh.com/| find many.--Cesare Pavese pgpwiqK1s65p5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: USB card readers that work?
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 15:52, Walter Tautz wrote: > I would imagine almost anything would work but I'd like > a list of models people have used with debian and which > they may have also used with their digital cameras. My intent [...] As far as I can see, anything does work. I have an Olympus C220, which happens to be one that is not supported by gphoto etc (apparently on account of a coding error by Olympus IIRC), but I simply pop the smart-media cards into any card reader that is around and read it, write it or whatever (In fact, I also use them for data transfer from country to country or from computer to computer). I use the cheapest available reader, a blue blob called "PC-line". I recollect it cost 7 GBP. I also use one of the same brand for SD cards. The only problem is the need to reboot when switching between types of media (though I am told the usb can be reset without rebooting - I forget how and have been too lazy to look it up). I have never had any problem with the cards being used in the camera after altering their contents. You can, for example, put another directory containing data on the card, photograph onto the card, copy the data and photos off and wipe the card, leaving or removing the camera's directories, and it will still be read and written to by the camera. I have noticed that the camera cannot read jpg files written by the gimp, even if the size is the same as it normally writes, but htis is not something you'd usually need to do. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:06:30PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:20:05:40-0800] scribed: > >> Your best bet if you don't want to reinstall is watch closely after > >> sarge goes stable for a new unstable fork off to testing, and move > >> when they fork. > > > > How, exactly, does one go about ``watch closely ... for a new unstable > > fork off to testing'' ??? I've seen reference to this, but I do not > > know how one can know when that situation obtains. > > After sarge goes stable, a couple months after that a new testing > branch will fork off of unstable. Not a couple of months; immediately. Actually, it won't fork off unstable either; it'll start as a copy of stable and progress smoothly on from there taking packages from unstable as they're ready, the same way it did last time. > >> Sometime before Dec 31, 2003 if people get moving on it was the last I > >> heard. > > > > 2003? > > The last time people were trying to put a date on the release said > Dec 31, 2003. Only correct if you don't read between the lines on -devel-announce. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/03/msg00026.html It's true that I (quite deliberately) didn't put an explicit date on that to avoid getting quoted too widely on Slashdot or whatever and being held to the date, and that the social contract stuff has at best pushed it back by a month or two; but anyone reading the message should be able to work out what it meant. Cheers, -- Colin Watson, Debian Release Assistant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
