[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-25 Thread William Hua
The underlying issue (with the PPA) might be that the hud shortcut is
actually set to Alt by default, which is eating the Alt_R modifier.
You'll probably have to do:

gsettings set org.compiz.integrated show-hud ['Alt_L']

Then Alt_R should work for modifier switching...

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-25 Thread William Hua
Actually, I seem to be getting some bad behaviour when setting the show-
hud key to Alt_L, I think the only good workaround would be to disable
it entirely:

gsettings set org.compiz.integrated show-hud ['disabled']

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-25 Thread Kom-Si
Sounds like a *very* reasonable idea, @William Hua.

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Re: [Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-25 Thread Kelley Castleberry
I am completely locked out of typing anything on my laptop Dell D620 4gb
ram 1.66ghz dual core intel processor 500 gb hitachi 7200 rpm hd.  I am at
a point to where I think I need to pull my docs/music to another partition
and reformat the GNOME partition.  What is most frustrating about this is I
just got my system set up perfect and of course this happens to be betta
and then I get this. Any suggestions are very much appreciated.

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013, Krisztian Poos 1218...@bugs.launchpad.net
wrote:

 Unfortunately neither the old ppa, ppa:attente/1218322 nor the new , the
 modifier-only-input-switch fixes the issue on my laptop.
 I tried to use also gsettings, I can finally map the keybindigs to
 ctrl-shift with the  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
 switch-input-source ['PrimaryShift_L'], however I still can use the
 Alt+Shift_L combo to change the keyboard.
 It changes the keyboard notifier in the panel, however I still type
 english keys instead of hungarian.

 I run ubuntu 13.10 on a Thinkpad T500, I use gnome shell.
 I also tried to upgrade my gnome to 3.10, however the problem remained
 after the upgrade as well, so I reverted these changes and went back to the
 3.8.

 Do you have any idea what else should I try to get back for the long-
 ago-used Alt+Shift shortcut?

 I am happily providing any needed information  for investigation as
 well.

 Thanks and regards,
 Krisztian

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   Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

 Status in Gnome Settings Daemon:
   Invalid
 Status in Ubuntu GNOME:
   Confirmed
 Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Ubuntu:
   Fix Released
 Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” package in Ubuntu:
   Triaged
 Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” source package in Saucy:
   Triaged
 Status in “gnome-control-center” package in ALT Linux:
   Unknown
 Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Gentoo Linux:
   Unknown
 Status in “gnome-control-center” package in Mandriva:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:
   ***
   The old PPA, ppa:attente/1218322 is superceded by the following one. You
 can remove the old repository using ppa-purge.
   ***

   A PPA which should provide some relief for this issue is available at
   https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/modifier-only-input-switch. To
   install:

   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch
   sudo apt-get update
   sudo apt-get upgrade
   (log out, log in)

   If the packages improve the situation for you, you can pin them using:

   sudo apt-mark hold compiz
   sudo apt-mark hold gnome-settings-daemon
   sudo apt-mark hold unity

   If the packages don't work for you, you can purge them using:

   sudo ppa-purge ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch

   === compiz ===

   Impact: modifier-only key bindings need to be independent of key-press
   order, there's no support for double tapping two modifier keys of the
   same type

   Test case:
   - add at least two input sources through gnome-control-center's text
 entry settings
   - use gsettings to set the input switching shortcut to ctrl+left shift:
 gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source
 ['PrimaryShift_L']
   - holding left shift, press and release ctrl
   - the current input source should change

   Regression potential: possible, but highly unlikely, that some key
   bindings may be triggered due to the removal of some code that would
   normally prevent a possible tap from occurring.

   === unity ===

   Impact: gnome-settings-daemon eats modifier-only shortcuts preventing
   them from propagating down to applications

   Test case:
   - open gnome-control-center's text input settings
   - set the next input source key binding to ctrl+left shift
   - open gnome-terminal
   - press ctrl+shift+t
   - gnome-terminal should open a new tab

   Regression potential: the additional input switch key bindings could
   collide with other functionality such as opening the dash or hud

   === gnome-control-center ===

   Impact: the UI to change the layout switching keys doesn't work

   Test case:



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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-25 Thread Vladimir Rutsky
William,

Also, when I press alt+tab now, hud appers (with gsettings set
org.compiz.integrated show-hud ['Alt_L']).

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-25 Thread Vladimir Rutsky
William,

I installed all packages from PPA mentioned in description (ppa:attente
/modifier-only-input-switch). Setting alt+shift and ctrl+shift works
as before, and also I'm able to set right alt (Alt R) as layout
switching shortcut (with gsettings set org.compiz.integrated show-hud
['Alt_L'])

But now layout switching is somehow slow: after pressing Alt R or
ctrl+shift I'm able to enter 3-4 characters in old layout before
layout actually switches. This is major issue for fast text entering
using two layouts.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-23 Thread Nik.Th.
After the latest updates in Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr, it works as it
should.

I can set Alt+Shift_L without problem

and also the indication works. ( bug #1242567)

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-22 Thread Krisztian Poos
And an other thing, if I try to modify the Switch-to-next-source
shortcut, it still not let me to set AltShift_L, pressing these
buttons makes it to be Disabled. So there is no way to set this on the
gui. I can set it again with the gsettings set
org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source ['AltShift_L'],
however it still not works after that as well.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-22 Thread Krisztian Poos
@Norbert (nrbrtx)

Thanks for the hint, I tried this way, and the results are the next. 
However the switch to next source shows up at the Input Sources config panel, I 
still cannot use Alt-Shift to change the layout. It still only switches the 
keyboard indicator in the upper panel to hu, but I still type english 
characters...  if I use the mouse to change the language on the upper corner to 
hu, I can use hungarian characters... If I again use the keyboard shortcut to 
change, it does not work again.. So the problem is definitely around the 
keyboard shortcuts.

Any suggestions are highly welcome, because this is quite annoying for
me :)

Thanks and regards,
Krisztian

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-22 Thread Daniel Fett
Just to clarify, the while pressed option is now gone and it is not
considered a bug?!

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-20 Thread Krisztian Poos
Unfortunately neither the old ppa, ppa:attente/1218322 nor the new , the 
modifier-only-input-switch fixes the issue on my laptop.
I tried to use also gsettings, I can finally map the keybindigs to ctrl-shift 
with the  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source 
['PrimaryShift_L'], however I still can use the Alt+Shift_L combo to change 
the keyboard. 
It changes the keyboard notifier in the panel, however I still type english 
keys instead of hungarian. 

I run ubuntu 13.10 on a Thinkpad T500, I use gnome shell. 
I also tried to upgrade my gnome to 3.10, however the problem remained after 
the upgrade as well, so I reverted these changes and went back to the 3.8.

Do you have any idea what else should I try to get back for the long-
ago-used Alt+Shift shortcut?

I am happily providing any needed information  for investigation as
well.

Thanks and regards,
Krisztian

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-20 Thread Krisztian Poos
I mean:   I still can't use the Alt+Shift_L   sorry for the
misstypeing

Regards,
Krisztian

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-20 Thread Norbert
@Krisztian Poos (rocky-poos) 
For me it works with saucy-proposed updates.
So I have removed all packages from William's ppa's:

$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:attente/1218322
$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch

and enabled proposed updates in software-properties-gtk (on Updates tab).
I tried Alt+Shift in sessions: Unity, GNOME FlashBack (with and without 
effects) and in GNOME Shell.

In modern GNOME (3.8, 3.10) they added special option Modifiers-only switch to 
next source. It contain Alt+Shift and others.
I tried gnome-control-center 3.8.5-0ubuntu1~saucy1  from ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 
and 3.10.1-0ubuntu1~saucy2  from ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging -  they allow 
me to set Alt+Shift in Switch to next/previous input source (thanks to 
William Hua patches) and Modifiers-only switch to next source (new GNOME 
option).

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-20 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Mandriva)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-19 Thread Kom-Si
@Nicholas Shatokhin what key(s) do you use to toggle layouts?

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Norbert
** Bug watch added: bugs.mageia.org/ #11698
   https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11698

** Also affects: gnome-control-center (Mandriva) via
   https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11698
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Norbert
** Bug watch added: ALT Linux #29591
   https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29591

** Also affects: gnome-control-center (ALT Linux) via
   https://bugzilla.altlinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29591
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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On 2013-11-18T16:59:58+00:00 Norbert wrote:

Description of problem:
In previous GNOME versions (for example, in 3.4) I was able to set keyboard 
layout switching to Alt+Shift, Ctrl+Shift, both Shifts, etc. In Mageia 4 I 
can't set it from gnome-control-center keyboard, or from mcc.
This bug come from GNOME.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
gnome-control-center-3.10.2-1.mga4

How reproducible:
Go to gnome-control-center keyboard and try to set Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift as 
layout switching keys.


Steps to Reproduce:
1. Go to gnome-control-center keyboard (Shortcuts - Typing)
2. Try to set Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift at 'Switch to next input source'
3. Get 'Disabled' in 'Switch to next input source'. 

If you set default Super+Space - it set and work normally, but it is not
comfortable and universal for all users.

This bug is very hot in Ubuntu 13.10 too (689 users are affected, see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1218322), but Canonical fixed it.

Reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-
daemon/+bug/1218322/comments/364


** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Mandriva)
   Status: Unknown = Confirmed

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Mandriva)
   Importance: Unknown = High

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Norbert
** Bug watch added: bugs.sabayon.org/ #4483
   http://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4483

** Also affects: gnome-control-center (Gentoo Linux) via
   http://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4483
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-18 Thread Nicholas Shatokhin
It is fixed for me. 13.10 fresh install and update.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-16 Thread Mateusz Stachowski
I've checked how the switching works in Cairo Dock session and
unfortunately the shortcut Ctrl + Shift L gets in the way of Terminal.

The shortcuts for copy pasting and opening new tab in Terminal don't
work in this case. Instead of that the input source is switched.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-14 Thread Mateusz Stachowski
The packages from the Modifier-only input switch PPA work very well in
case of Unity.

I've tried all the mentioned test cases and everything worked. The Ctrl
+ Shift L set as next source shortcut doesn't collide with Terminal
shortcuts or Sublime Text 3 or LibreOffice. Also if I have Text Entry
settings open and I issue the gsettings command in terminal the shortcut
changes in those settings immediately (reflecting that change).

I don't have any other DE's except for Cairo Dock which has it's own
session but I didn't check how it works in that.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-14 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
it seems, this is the reason for my crashes:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-
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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-14 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thanks Vladyslav, that seems an issue with the nvidia binary drivers
there... I'm going to comment on the other bug

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-14 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
reinstalled nouveau driver. All issues are gone
Switching now works for me, thanks guys

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Norbert
Thank you for your work, William!

I installed packages from ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch and now:
* default Super+Space, Ctrl, Shift works; 
* non-latin shortcuts work normally;
*Ctrl+Shift+C/V, in gnome-terminal work too;
in Unity session.

But there is a regression. 
I can't switch keyboard layouts in GNOME FlashBack and GNOME FlashBack (without 
effects) 
sessions. 
I do rm -rf ~/.* on each update of packages (I have clean Ubuntu 13.10 system 
only for testing), so I hope that my result is reliable. But this need 
confirmation from other users. So, please test keyboard layout switching in 
GNOME sessions.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
William: I understand that the goal is to move key grabbing out of g-s-d
to Compiz/Unity, but you should not do this as a stable release update,
as it completely breaks things for users of custom GNOME sessions (such
as GNOME Flashback).

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Dmitry: we already have a patch in g-s-d that makes the grabbing happen
only for non-gnome-shell-sessions, we just need to tweak it so the new
change only exclude unity session and let the other ones available for
compatibility ... we can't support those fallback sessions for ever
though so users running gnome-panel under !compiz might need to find
another solution (e.g use ibus instead of gsd and the indicator)

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread John
 Hi everyone, I uploaded a new update is available from the following PPA. 
 Please try it to see if it improves your situation:
 https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/modifier-only-input-switch

Instead of doing this, you'd better upgraded an official repository:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1250868

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread William Hua
Ok, I did as Sebastien suggested and uploaded to the PPA gnome-settings-
daemon which will do those changes only under Unity. The build should
finish soon.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
Now indicator switches after patch in #341, but the layout itself - doesnt
any ideas how to fix this?

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread William Hua
Vladyslav, is gnome-settings-daemon running? Also what version is it?

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
Hi William

hmm. it seems its the one, which is crashed at startup
Tried to run manually and got:

vladest@vladest-Aspire-V3-771:~/Pictures$ gnome-settings-daemon

(gnome-settings-daemon:5755): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' 
received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
  (Details: serial 190 error_code 8 request_code 140 minor_code 30)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment
   variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)


can it be caused some wrong settings?
if yes, which setting file to kill?

thanks

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread William Hua
Vladyslav, I'm not sure what caused that unfortunately. Can you list
your output of:

apt-cache policy compiz gnome-settings-daemon unity

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
here it is:

vladest@vladest-Aspire-V3-771:~/development/qt5$ apt-cache policy compiz 
gnome-settings-daemon unity
compiz:
  Installed: 1:0.9.10+13.10.20131113-0ubuntu1ppa1
  Candidate: 1:0.9.10+13.10.20131113-0ubuntu1ppa1
  Version table:
 *** 1:0.9.10+13.10.20131113-0ubuntu1ppa1 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/attente/modifier-only-input-switch/ubuntu/ 
saucy/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1:0.9.10+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main amd64 Packages
gnome-settings-daemon:
  Installed: 3.8.6.1-0ubuntu1ppa2
  Candidate: 3.8.6.1-0ubuntu1ppa2
  Version table:
 *** 3.8.6.1-0ubuntu1ppa2 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/attente/modifier-only-input-switch/ubuntu/ 
saucy/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 3.8.5-0ubuntu11.1 0
500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy-updates/main amd64 
Packages
 3.8.5-0ubuntu10ppa2 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/attente/1218322/ubuntu/ saucy/main amd64 
Packages
 3.8.5-0ubuntu9 0
500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main amd64 Packages
unity:
  Installed: 7.1.2+13.10.20131113.1-0ubuntu1ppa1
  Candidate: 7.1.2+13.10.20131113.1-0ubuntu1ppa1
  Version table:
 *** 7.1.2+13.10.20131113.1-0ubuntu1ppa1 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/attente/modifier-only-input-switch/ubuntu/ 
saucy/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 7.1.2+13.10.20131014.1-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main amd64 Packages
vladest@vladest-Aspire-V3-771:~/development/qt5$

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Vladyslav: did you have that g-s-d issue before updating?

Could you get a gdb backtrace of the issue?
$ sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-0-dbg
$ export GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=1
$ gdb gnome-settings-daemon
(gdb) b gdk_x_error
(gdb) r --replace
... it should stop on the issue
(gdb) bt

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
Hi Sebastien

unfortunately, when I run the deamon under gdb, it hangs:
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon...(no 
debugging symbols found)...done.
(gdb) b gdk_x_error
Function gdk_x_error not defined.
Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) y
Breakpoint 1 (gdk_x_error) pending.
(gdb) r --replace
Starting program: /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon --replace
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1.
hangs here
Breakpoint 1, gdk_x_error (xdisplay=0x648620, error=0x7fffd870) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c:268
268 /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c: No such file or 
directory.


have to kill the gdb from another session

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
 unfortunately, when I run the deamon under gdb, it hangs:

hum, seems like we need to be smarter there... does it work if you

$ export GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=1
$ gdb gnome-settings-daemon
(gdb) fb gdk_x_error
(gdb) command
 bt
 c
 end
(gdb) r --replace

(that should print the bt for you when it stops)

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
(sorry, change the fb by b)

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Levan Chelidze
I have a probe with ubuntu 13.10 and keyboard when I select other
language Like Georgian or Russian the keyboard shortcuts do not work any
more I can not use control+C control+V etc... it only works when I have
English language selected


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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Romano Giannetti
@Levan, your bug is probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1226962

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
Sebastien, here what I've got:

Type commands for breakpoint(s) 1, one per line.
End with a line saying just end.
bt
c
end
(gdb) r --replace
Starting program: /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon --replace
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1.

Breakpoint 1, gdk_x_error (xdisplay=0x648620, error=0x7fffd870) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c:268
268 /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c: No such file or 
directory.
#0  gdk_x_error (xdisplay=0x648620, error=0x7fffd870) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c:268
#1  0x7590d5ab in _XError () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#2  0x7590a627 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#3  0x7590a6d5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#4  0x7590b5d0 in _XReply () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#5  0x758f2cc4 in _XGetWindowAttributes () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#6  0x758f2e31 in XGetWindowAttributes () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#7  0x753934d1 in gdk_x11_window_foreign_new_for_display 
(display=display@entry=0x658030, window=0) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkwindow-x11.c:1200
#8  0x75396569 in check_manager_window (x11_screen=0x65e030, 
notify_changes=notify_changes@entry=0) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/xsettings-client.c:479
#9  0x753966c6 in _gdk_x11_xsettings_init (x11_screen=optimized out) 
at /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/xsettings-client.c:553
#10 0x7537cacf in _gdk_x11_display_open (display_name=optimized out) 
at /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkdisplay-x11.c:1407
#11 0x7537b051 in gdk_x11_display_manager_open_display 
(manager=0x619a60, name=optimized out) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkdisplaymanager-x11.c:53
#12 0x7704d414 in gtk_init_check (argc=optimized out, argv=optimized 
out) at /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gtk/gtkmain.c:990
#13 0x004036a4 in main ()
[New Thread 0x7fffee76e700 (LWP 2487)]
[New Thread 0x7fffedf6d700 (LWP 2493)]
[New Thread 0x7fffed76c700 (LWP 2494)]
[New Thread 0x7fffd700 (LWP 2495)]

Breakpoint 1, gdk_x_error (xdisplay=0x648620, error=0x7fffd500) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c:268
268 in /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c
#0  gdk_x_error (xdisplay=0x648620, error=0x7fffd500) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c:268
#1  0x7590d5ab in _XError () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#2  0x7590a627 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#3  0x7590b6e2 in _XReply () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#4  0x74e27d29 in XRRQueryOutputProperty () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2
#5  0x775b227b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-3.so.7
#6  0x775b26aa in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-3.so.7
#7  0x76bb773a in g_initable_new_valist () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0
#8  0x76bb781c in g_initable_new () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0
#9  0x775afc01 in gnome_rr_screen_new () from 
/usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-3.so.7
#10 0x7fffec4d84c2 in gsd_power_manager_start () from 
/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0/libpower.so
#11 0x7fffec4d9363 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0/libpower.so
#12 0x004052a0 in gnome_settings_plugin_info_activate ()
#13 0x00404135 in _start ()
[New Thread 0x7fffddd25700 (LWP 2497)]
[New Thread 0x7fffdd524700 (LWP 2499)]

Breakpoint 1, gdk_x_error (xdisplay=0x648620, error=0x7fffd680) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c:268
268 in /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c
#0  gdk_x_error (xdisplay=0x648620, error=0x7fffd680) at 
/build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.8.6/./gdk/x11/gdkmain-x11.c:268
#1  0x7590d5ab in _XError () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#2  0x7590a627 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#3  0x7590a6d5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#4  0x7590b5d0 in _XReply () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#5  0x7590710d in XSync () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#6  0x7590719b in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
#7  0x74e279f1 in XRRSetOutputPrimary () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2
#8  0x775b6441 in gnome_rr_config_apply_with_time () from 
/usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-3.so.7
#9  0x7fffdc910e30 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0/libxrandr.so
#10 0x7fffdc912faa in gsd_xrandr_manager_start () from 
/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0/libxrandr.so
#11 0x7fffdc90fd43 in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0/libxrandr.so
#12 0x004052a0 in 

[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The errors there seem to be due to the xrand code, which has nothing to
do with the keyboard work here ... could you register a new bug?

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-12 Thread To Do
There is a regression with the fix. Now, if you set the keyboard layout
switcher to Alt + Shift, some programs cannot use key combinations like
Alt +Shift + Insert. Trying to type this shortcut, changes the keyboard
layout and doesn't pass the command to the program.

It happens to me using Freeplane 1.2.23 with Openjdk 7 on an AMD64
Ubuntu 13.10.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-12 Thread William Hua
Hi everyone, I uploaded a new update is available from the following
PPA. Please try it to see if it improves your situation:

https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/modifier-only-input-switch
(Please note, this is different from the old PPA, you will need to add the new 
repository. You can use 'sudo ppa-purge ppa:attente/1218322' to remove the old 
one.)

It contains the following packages and versions:

compiz (1:0.9.10+13.10.20131113-0ubuntu1ppa1)
gnome-settings-daemon (3.8.6.1-0ubuntu1ppa2)
unity (7.1.2+13.10.20131113.1-0ubuntu1ppa1)

It attempts to fix some issues under Unity with certain modifier keys,
as well as preventing the key combination from getting consumed by a
potential application shortcut (LP: #1245473). So you should be able to
do Shift+Ctrl+C, Shift+Ctrl+V, etc. in the terminal again. However, it
doesn't resolve using the gnome-settings daemon media key shortcuts like
Ctrl+Alt+T (LP: #1226962).

Thank you, Norbert, thanks very much for your triaging and the
spreadsheet you maintained which was really quite useful for tracking
particular problems as this PPA was developed.

To install:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

If the new packages improve the situation for you, you can use apt-mark
to hold these packages at these versions.

If the new packages cause a regression for you, use 'sudo ppa-purge
ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch' to restore the versions
currently in archive.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-12 Thread William Hua
PS Please log out and log back in again after installing.

** Description changed:

+ ***
+ The old PPA, ppa:attente/1218322 is superceded by the following one. You can 
remove the old repository using ppa-purge.
+ ***
+ 
  A PPA which should provide some relief for this issue is available at
- https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/1218322. There still remain
- issues regarding keyboard shortcuts though. To install:
+ https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/modifier-only-input-switch. To
+ install:
  
- sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/1218322
+ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get upgrade
+ (log out, log in)
+ 
+ If the packages improve the situation for you, you can pin them using:
+ 
+ sudo apt-mark hold compiz
+ sudo apt-mark hold gnome-settings-daemon
+ sudo apt-mark hold unity
+ 
+ If the packages don't work for you, you can purge them using:
+ 
+ sudo ppa-purge ppa:attente/modifier-only-input-switch
+ 
+ === compiz ===
+ 
+ Impact: modifier-only key bindings need to be independent of key-press
+ order, there's no support for double tapping two modifier keys of the
+ same type
+ 
+ Test case:
+ - add at least two input sources through gnome-control-center's text entry 
settings
+ - use gsettings to set the input switching shortcut to ctrl+left shift: 
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source 
['PrimaryShift_L']
+ - holding left shift, press and release ctrl
+ - the current input source should change
+ 
+ Regression potential: possible, but highly unlikely, that some key
+ bindings may be triggered due to the removal of some code that would
+ normally prevent a possible tap from occurring.
+ 
+ === unity ===
+ 
+ Impact: gnome-settings-daemon eats modifier-only shortcuts preventing
+ them from propagating down to applications
+ 
+ Test case:
+ - open gnome-control-center's text input settings
+ - set the next input source key binding to ctrl+left shift
+ - open gnome-terminal
+ - press ctrl+shift+t
+ - gnome-terminal should open a new tab
+ 
+ Regression potential: the additional input switch key bindings could
+ collide with other functionality such as opening the dash or hud
  
  === gnome-control-center ===
  
  Impact: the UI to change the layout switching keys doesn't work
  
  Test case:
  - open gnome-control-center's text input settings
  - click on the next layout key entry
  - try entering a key combinaison (e.g ctrl-space)
  - the UI should reflect the new keys
  
  Regression potential: that UI was not working before, it should only be
  an improvement (some key combos are not working as expected, that's
  another issue and shouldn't be mixed with this one)
  
  === gnome-settings-daemon ===
  
  Impact: attempting to change keyboard layouts using only modifier keys
  doesn't work
  
  Test case:
  - add at least two input sources through gnome-control-center's text entry 
settings
  - use gsettings to set the input switching shortcut to ctrl+left shift: 
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source 
['PrimaryShift_L']
  - press and release ctrl+left shift
  - the current input source should change
  
  Regression potential: The input switching shortcut might capture other
  non-modifier shortcuts, but users will need to consider this when
  choosing their switching shortcut anyways. For users this bug affects,
  this represents a working solution for a critical bug.
  
  --
  
  Test results for different keyboard layout change hotkeys may be viewed
  and added in the Google Docs table, created by Norbert
  
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVEusp=sharing).
  
  --
  
  Separate bug reports for individual layout switching hotkey
  combinations:
  
  Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space:
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245137);
     * Unity session (bug 1245136);
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245138, bug 1245256);
     * ubiquity installer (bug 1242572).
  
  Alt+Shift:
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245258)
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Alt+Shift (bug 1245926)
  
  Ctrl+Shift:
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245270)
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245268)
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Ctrl+Shift (bug 1245991)
     * If keyboard layout switching hotkey is set to Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Shift+C/V 
are not working in gnome-terminal (bug 1246656)
  
  Shift+Shift:
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Shift+Shift (bug 1245272)
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245278)
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245280)
  
  Bugs which belong to keyboard layout switching:
     * Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout in 13.10 (bug 
1226962)
     * Keyboard Layout Options window is missed in gnome-control-center 
keyboard (bug 1245064)
     * Unable to set keyboard LED to show alternative layout in 
gnome-control-center keyboard in Saucy (bug 

[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-12 Thread Mikola
William, thanks for the update!

With packages from modifier-only-input-switch ppa, I was able to set
Alt+Shift as the layout switch, and all key combinations
Alt+Shift+something now work fine.

Tested on
 - IntelliJ IDEA (Alt+Shift+O to lookup/open a file)
 - JIRA web running in Firefox (Alt+Shift+S to save/submit a comment)

Thanks again for the fix!

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-12 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/unity

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-11 Thread zsolt . ruszinyák
I suspect there are also other related problems here. I always used the
right control (while pressed) option, but since 13.10 it seems to
identify the Right CTRL key the same as Right ALT on my keyboard. Is
that normal???

Gnome-tweak-tool does not work here either, nothing I set there takes
effect.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-11 Thread zsolt . ruszinyák
Sorry, the Right CTRL thing was unrelated...

The PPA does the job, but obviously it's not the same as the good old
options.

Why the hell did they have to remove the button that brought up the
advanced keyboard options from the Gnome settings? I just HATE when
they keep removing good old things that worked, just to show people that
they are actually doing something...

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-09 Thread mpletnyov
Just updated gnome-control-center to 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1, which fixed
nothing for me. Quoting myself here: I used to switch layouts using
RightWin key, and now when I try to set the 'switch to next source' to
this key it shows just 'Next Group' (means nothing to me), and doesn't
work.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-09 Thread Vlad Glushchuk
I use CapsLock to select English keyboard layout and Shift+CapsLock to
select Ukrainian.

If I ever need to type a Latin character I used to hit the CapsLock key
and then continue typing.  I always hit Shift+CapsLock before typing a
Russian or Ukrainian phrase. Keyboard layout cycling never really worked
for me.

Since recent update I can use CapsLock key/Shift+CapsLock combo to cycle
between layouts but not to select the one I need.

I used setxkbmap as a temporary workaround, but it doesn't work any more
(it seems CapsLock key and Shift+CapsLock combo are being processed
before reaching the code controlled by setxkbmap). And if I set the
Shift+CapsLock combo as layout cycling shortcut, my guake terminal
window closes each time I hit the Shift+CapsLock combo which never
happened before.

I would like to suggest adding an option to the Layout/Shortcut settings
to set a shortcut for each layout selection.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thanks Norbert for your testing work and your bug reports!

Some comments

 * default Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space does not work (bug
1245136) - the most important bug (it's default hotkey!!!).

That could be bug #1249208. It works here after running ibus-setup and
changing the ibus key to something else


 * non-latin shortcuts are broken (see bug 1226962) - the most important bug 
 (affects many multi-layout users),

That bug seems to list several issues. The gsd keybindings, e.g ctrl-
alt-L ... did that ever worked?

I installed 13.04 which has the old stack and tried that:
- added a Russian keymap
- binded ctrl-alt-C to the calculator
- changed the active layout to russian
- hit ctrl-alt-c (or ctrl-alt-l)

That doesn't work ... it seems like that's not a new issue/not due to
the 13.10 changes


Note that keybindings not working in e.g libreoffice is another issue and due 
to the GNOME implementation choices, they consider that libreoffice needs to be 
fixed, see the first comment on 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55585 which explain that. Note 
sure if others applications hit the same issue (gtk does the correct thing so 
GTK software are fine, firefox and Qt application seem to not have the issue 
either)


 * shortcuts starting with Ctrl+Shift+ got broken if layout switchin set to 
 Ctrl+Shift (bug 1246656) - the most important bug (affects many multi-layout 
 users).

Right, that's a annoying one, the only way to fix it is to move the key
grabbing in unity, we are working on that but it's technically non
trivial and take some time


 * some shortcut combinations started with Win or Alt open a HUD - bug with 
 the lowest importance.

That's not a new issue either

** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #55585
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55585

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-08 Thread tealblue
Thank you all for fixing this problem.
There is no problem for me to switch the shortcut of traditional Chinese input 
to control + space.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-08 Thread Sergey Kochkin
It still does not work on login page, but works in others applications.
I use CAPS to switch between different languages (ru-en)

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-08 Thread Anders Hall
My key-combo (left ctrl + caps-lock) can know be training/activating it
in settings. However, the key-combo doesn't work all the time and seems
to get confused when switching between terminal, gnome screen saver and
regular desktop activity.

So

1) after upgrade to 13.10 my key-combo stopped working completely.

2) then after some update my old key-combo started to work in gnome
screen saver, terminal and all programs. Yet the indicator never changed
state/appearance.

3) then tested using system settings and after that it works partially.

... why bugs like this slip through is beyond me. Canonical has a work
force from many countries. Let half of the work-force upgrade
continuously over several releases and half install fresh builds. Also
add more testing.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-08 Thread Yuri I. Kornilov
The Menu key is still not working as a layout switch (I'm using the
Menu keys for this purpose for more than 15 years both in console and
XWindow System and it will be hard for me to change this habit).

The Menu key is accepted by the 'Text Entry Settings' dialog and
displayed there as Next Group key, but does not work as a layout
switch.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-08 Thread Nazar Mokrynskyi
Can't use Right Ctrl key.
What is interesting, if hold ctrl and press some letter key - layout changes! 
If just click - returns to English, regardless which layout was before. The 
same for Caps Lock key, but, weirdly, Right Shift key works perfectly!!!
WTF guys?
This is not high priority bug, this is EXTREMELY HIGH PRIORITY ANNOYING BUG FOR 
ALMOST EVERY GNOME SHELL USER!

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-08 Thread ==BJ==
I had used Grave Accent as dead key for switching layout in Ubuntu by 
manually changing X11 config. I did it for several versions of Ubuntu.
Now that Alt+Shifthas been fixed. I wonder if it's possible to manually 
config it in Ubuntu 13.10?.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-07 Thread Norbert
@darkk, @all
For hotkey testing in non-latin layout I created a sheet named Non-latin 
shortcuts in my table 
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVEusp=sharing).
 
I added simple shortcuts to it (Ctrl+Alt+T, Ctrl+Shift+C/V in gnome-terminal).
You and/or other users may add more shortcuts to it. Table is writable by 
anyone with link.

I hope, that my table will help William Hua and other Ubuntu developers
to fix and verify hotkey related bugs.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-control-center -
1:3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1

---
gnome-control-center (1:3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1) saucy; urgency=low

  [ Iain Lane ]
  * 0001-rfkill-glib-Don-t-use-g_assert_not_reached-in-type_t.patch:
Cherry-pick 90f49a4d5dd646b8fce10f61a9231db4973a907b from upstream.
rfkill-glib: Don't use g_assert_not_reached in type_to_string. New kernel
versions can add new RFKILL types, we should not crash here, just say that
we don't know what the switch is. (LP: #1209092)

  [ William Hua ]
  * debian/patches/input-sources-text-entry.patch:
- Next group and double modifier input-source switching (LP: #1218322)
 -- Iain Lane iain.l...@canonical.com   Thu, 31 Oct 2013 00:29:53 +

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-07 Thread Norbert
@janitor, @all
Thank you, William Hua, but bug is not fully fixed (see #318, #323) because of 
remaining issues:
* default Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space does not work (bug 1245136) - the 
most important bug (it's default hotkey!!!).
* non-latin shortcuts are broken (see bug 1226962) - the most important bug 
(affects many multi-layout users),
* shortcuts starting with Ctrl+Shift+ got broken if layout switchin set to 
Ctrl+Shift (bug 1246656) - the most important bug (affects many multi-layout 
users).
* some shortcut combinations started with Win or Alt open a HUD - bug with the 
lowest importance.

For hotkey testing in non-latin layout I created a sheet named Non-latin 
shortcuts in my table 
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVEusp=sharing).
I added simple shortcuts to it (Ctrl+Alt+T, Ctrl+Shift+C/V in gnome-terminal).
You and/or other users may add more shortcuts to it. Table is writable by 
anyone with link.

I hope, that my table will help William Hua and other Ubuntu developers
to fix and verify hotkey related bugs.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-05 Thread Leonid Evdokimov
 Single keys hotkeys are not working: Alt (opens HUD), Shift, Ctrl, Win (opens 
 HUD). But IMHO they used very seldom as layout switchers.
Ctrl was default layout switcher in linux console (bare TTY) for quite a long 
time, so there may be significant number of users using Ctrl in X too. But I 
have no numbers to back my words up.

Also, you say that Alt opens HUD. It's not always true due to bug
1237121.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Kom-Si:

To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct . Bug reports are
handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear
this in mind.


The issues are being actively worked on, several SRUs have been made since 
saucy and others are on the way, it's unfair to say that the issue is being 
ignored or that the team is doing little. If you want to help getting more 
fixes in patches/help are welcome as well though

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Egmont Koblinger
@Sebastien:

I tried to refrain from commenting on this aspect, but it indeed made me
think a lot. On one hand, I totally agree with you (myself also being a
developer/contributor to open source). On the other hand, I share the
frustration of many users, and I'm also quite disappointed on how such a
complex and crucial bug could be slipped into a release and I share
their opinion that the progress is way slower than it should be.

Is there a way you could please point me to documentation/guidelines how
such bugs could slip into the distro, how such bugreports and
prioritized/handled, what kind of QA process lets a distro ship with
such a bug, whether the QA process will be revised to make sure such
critical bug can't go into the distro in the future? I'd like to be sure
that it's safe for me to stay with Ubuntu, but if there'll be one more
release with such a critical bug, I'll just have to look for a different
distribution. I'm not trying to offend anyone or criticize anything, but
I'd like to know if what Ubuntu is able to offer to me is the best match
for what I'm looking for, and right now I'm in serious doubt. In short:
are there any *conclusions* drawn from this bug that'll help future
Ubuntu releases become better?

I can't help to mention that the application I use the most frequently
is gnome-terminal, where Ubuntu ships a quite old version, for exactly
one reason: updating to a newer one requires shell work (touching
/etc/profile or similar) to keep the convenience feature that new tabs
open in the working directory of the current tab. Something that
shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to solve, and even users can do it
for themselves, still the distro couldn't yet solve it. I wonder: if
such a trivial and easily workarounded issue is a blocker for a version
update of gnome-terminal, how come that totally breaking the keyboard
wasn't a blocker for the update of those components???

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Lockal
** Tags added: regression

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Tags removed: verification-failed
** Tags added: verification-done

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Lockal
Everything was ok with keyboard in 13.04, but the current state of 13.10
detracts thousands of users (all web-forums and linux-related blogs in
russian have been flooded with all these keyboard problems). Keyboard
layouts are utterly broken for users with non-latin layouts. When
package can't serve its main purpose the importance should be set to
Critical, not to High. Also, can someone explain why we can't simply
downgrade gnome-settings-daemon package in repositories?

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Could the comments about how annoying that bug is stop now? That has
been acknowleged and is being worked on, adding noise to the bug report
just makes harder to get the useful informations from it to work on the
issue. Downgrading is not an option since the changes impact other
components (gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-control-center, gnome-shell,
indicator, etc)

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Kom-Si
@Sebastien Bacher: complaints *will* continue because many readers of this 
thread feel that the team does not realize how serious the situation is. In the 
current release the language layout handling mechanism is broken. Completely. 
Irreversibly. God knows how long it will take the team to build a new one. I 
personally am very pessimistic in this respect. 
And you say downgrading is not an option. For many of us it simply means 
'good-bye, Ubuntu'. For the time being I'm sticking with 13.04 which ain't a 
piece of cake, either. Come April, I might have to ditch all my Ubuntu 
expertise and go look elsewhere, and learn something new as if I haven't learnt 
enough...
The bug is not annoying as you put it; @Lockal is quite right: the bug is 
*Critical* big time, alarmingly so since it crept into release.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Kom-Si: could you please stop those overstatement, that's not helping
your case nor giving you any credibility. You can repeat that the bug is
not rightly considered or worked, that's not making that statement true.
You can also keep repeating it's a stopper, but reality is that there is
lot of workaround for it (just use another keybinding if you are trying
to one that's not resolved yet).

You are also welcome to stay on LTS versions, or to not upgrade just
after release, if you don't want to be an early tester of new versions

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Norbert
** Tags removed: verification-done
** Tags added: verification-failed

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Norbert: could you please stop changing the tag without comment?

 The SRU is not supposed to be perfect or to fix all issues, it's an
improvement over the previous version though and there is no reason to
not take a partial fix and improve the situation for some users.

 Did you find regressions in the current SRU? If so could you give some
details on those?

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Romano Giannetti
@All: I think that we all should try to cool down on this bug. It's a
serious one, developers are on it, it's not easy to fix and it's
impossible to revert to old system (unfortunately).

The SRUs are trying to fix it in a incremental manner; I think that all
these changes of tag come from not having clear the procedure for a
partial fix. There are two way of seeing it:

1) the partial fix should be tagged with verification-done, and after
the final acceptance of the SRU in -updates, the bug has to be reopened
(switch from Fix released to New) for the rest of problems, given that
the partial fix do not solve completely the bug.

2) the bug has to be marked verification-done only if all the problems
are fixed.

@Sebastien, could you please advise (or share a link) on how such a
complex bug should be managed? Thanks.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Norbert
Hello!

I have finished testing of latest packages 
gnome-control-center1:3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1, 
gnome-settings-daemon   3.8.5-0ubuntu11.1.

You can view my Google Docs table.
Here I can summarize the results.

1. For Unity Session:
For all hotkeys non-latin shortcuts are still broken - see bug 1226962 (for 
example Ctrl+Alt+T does not open gnome-terminal).

* Default Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space in not working at all.
* Alt+Shift works
* Ctrl+Shift works (but Ctrl+Shift+C/V, +arrows is broken - see bug 1246656)
* Shift+Shift works
* Ctrl+Space works
* Ctrl+Shift+Space works
* Shift+Space works
* Super+Shift works
* Ctrl+Alt+Space works
* Alt+Shift+Space works
* Ctrl+Super works
* Shift+Backspace works
* Shift+Ctrl+Alt works
* Alt+CapsLock works, but opens HUD (bug to be posted)
* Alt+Ctrl works
* Alt+Alt works
* Ctrl+Ctrl works
* CapsLock works
* Caps Lock (to first layout), Shift+Caps Lock (to last layout)  works
* Caps Lock, Alt+CapsLock works, but opens HUD (bug to be posted)
* Left Ctrl+LeftWin (to first layout), RightCtrl+Menu (to second layout) works
* ScrollLock works
* Shift+CapsLock works

Single keys hotkeys are not working: Alt (opens HUD), Shift, Ctrl, Win
(opens HUD). But IMHO they used very seldom as layout switchers.

2. For GNOME FlashBack (with effects)
For all shortcuts non-latin shortcuts are working (at least gnome-terminal open 
with Ctrl+Alt+T).

* Default Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space works.
* Alt+Shift works
* Ctrl+Shift works (but Ctrl+Shift+C/V, +arrows is broken - see bug 1246656)
* Shift+Shift works
* Ctrl+Space works
* Ctrl+Shift+Space works
* Shift+Space does not work (produce message [The shortcut Shift+Space cannot 
be used because it will become impossible to type using this key. Please try 
with a key such as Control, Alt or Shift at the same time. ])
* Super+Shift works
* Ctrl+Alt+Space works
* Alt+Shift+Space works
* Ctrl+Super works
* Shift+Backspace works
* Shift+Ctrl+Alt works
* Alt+CapsLock works, but type in capitals
* Alt+Ctrl works
* Alt+Alt works
* Ctrl+Ctrl works
* CapsLock works
* Caps Lock (to first layout), Shift+Caps Lock (to last layout)  works
* Caps Lock, Alt+CapsLock works
* Left Ctrl+LeftWin (to first layout), RightCtrl+Menu (to second layout) works
* ScrollLock works
* Shift+CapsLock works, but type in capitals

Single keys hotkeys are not working: Alt (opens HUD), Shift, Ctrl, Win.
But IMHO they used very seldom as layout switchers.


3. For GNOME FlashBack (without effects)
For all hotkeys non-latin shortcuts are still broken - see bug 1226962 (for 
example Ctrl+Alt+T does not open gnome-terminal).

* Default Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space in not working at all.
* Alt+Shift works
* Ctrl+Shift works (but Ctrl+Shift+C/V, +arrows is broken - see bug 1246656)
* Shift+Shift works
* Ctrl+Space works
* Ctrl+Shift+Space works
* Shift+Space does not work (produce message [The shortcut Shift+Space cannot 
be used because it will become impossible to type using this key. Please try 
with a key such as Control, Alt or Shift at the same time. ])
* Super+Shift works (but reports this combination as Mod4+Super+Hyper+Shift L)
* Ctrl+Alt+Space works
* Alt+Shift+Space works
* Ctrl+Super works
* Shift+Backspace works
* Shift+Ctrl+Alt works
* Alt+CapsLock works
* Alt+Ctrl works
* Alt+Alt works
* Ctrl+Ctrl works
* CapsLock works
* Caps Lock (to first layout), Shift+Caps Lock (to last layout)  works
* Caps Lock, Alt+CapsLock works, but opens HUD (bug to be posted)
* Left Ctrl+LeftWin (to first layout), RightCtrl+Menu (to second layout) works
* ScrollLock works
* Shift+CapsLock works

Single keys hotkeys are not working: Alt, Shift, Ctrl, Win. But IMHO
they used very seldom as layout switchers.


So there is a big progress of fixing this bug. Thank you, William Hua!

But there are remaining issues:
* default Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space does not work (bug 1245136)
* non-latin shortcuts are broken (see bug 1226962), 
* shortcuts starting with Ctrl+Shift+ got broken if layout switchin set to 
Ctrl+Shift (bug 1246656). 
* some shortcut combinations started with Win or Alt open a HUD.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread bademux
Importance High? Are you kidding? Whole text input is yucked up!

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
The other day I dreamed a blessed hope,
that an ant was climbing over my shorts.

So keep calm, and do easy ♡

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-04 Thread bademux
Tested with gnome-control-center 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1, gnome-settings-daemon 
3.8.5-0ubuntu11.1.
-Can't switch languages in Lock Screen
-CapsLock warning at LockSreen while CapsLock is used as kdb switcher
-Led blink while switching input langs (CapsLock is used as kdb switcher)
-Super + Space doesn't work
-No settings for for CapsLockCo ( http://i.stack.imgur.com/ACsI1.png )

It is the worst decision to radically update Unity7 along with
Unity8\XMir active development...

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-03 Thread myg
Hi all,

Even though the core combinations are possible  to assign (ctrl + arl, ctrl + 
shift, etc),  it is however impossible to assign both SHIFT as a switcher. When 
I'm trying to assign them by pressing two shifts at the same time,  shift R 
only appears on screen. 
Can anybody suggest me on what have  I to do to make SHIFT + SHIFT  work?

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-03 Thread Norbert
Hello, myg (nidinnidin) !
As you can read from my table - it is possible to set Shift+Shift only from 
GNOME FlashBack session. You can install it by installing gnome-panel package 
in Ubuntu 13.10, then logout and login to GNOME FlashBack session.
I hope this helps.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-03 Thread Mikhail V. Golubev
I have too many questions about this new Text Entry keyboard switcher
in Ubuntu 13.10

1. How to set several different combinations for one action (Switch to
next source)? I want use CapsLock and R_Ctrl + R_Shift and L_Alt +
Space. How I can do this now? New hotkeys selection method lets me set
only one hotkey combination per action.

2. When I set new hotkey combination for action Switch to next source and 
press R_Ctrl+R_Shift how you can correctly determine what actualy I mean:
R_Ctrl+R_Shift or R_Ctrl+Any_Shift or Any_Ctrl+R_Shift or 
Any_Ctrl+Any_Shift
Because it is different combinations.
It's impossible to determine it correctly with new hotkeys input method.

How to solve these two problems?
Please return checkboxes for keyboard language switching hotkeys (like in 
Ubuntu 12.04) and I will be able to select manually one or more combinations 
for action Switch to next source:
[v] L_Alt + Space
[ ] R_Alt + Sapce
[v] CapsLock
[ ] L_Ctrl + L_Shift
[ ] L_Ctrl + R_Shift
[ ] R_Ctrl + L_Shift
[v] R_Ctrl + R_Shift
[ ] Any_Ctrl + Any_Shift
[ ] L_Alt + L_Shift
[ ] L_Alt + R_Shift
[ ] R_Alt + L_Shift
[ ] R_Alt + R_Shift
[ ] Any_Alt + Any_Shift
[ ] L_Alt + R_Alt
[ ] L_Ctrl + R_Ctrl
[ ] L_Shift + R_Shift

3. When I set CapsLock for Switch to next source action it works fine in 
system. But in screen lock menu (when I type my password to unlock the screen) 
CapsLock cannot switch keyboard layout language, in this case it always works 
like regular CapsLock (upper-case letters).
Other hotkey combinations also doesn't work for keyboard language switch in 
lock screen window.

4. Keyboard language indicator in the top-right side of unity panel
sometimes doesn't change indication when keyboard language switches
after pressing hotkeys.

5. Keyboard language indicator in lock screen window sometimes doesn't
appear.

Who is developer of this new Text Entry switcher in Ubuntu 13.10?
I suppose he is not a multilingual person and he never use multilingual 
keyboard switching in real life. Because new realization of this feature in 
Ubuntu is terrible. Stupid bugs in final release it's ridiculous.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-03 Thread Kom-Si
+1, Mikhail V. Golubev.
I also wonder who is in charge nowadays of such crucial areas as language 
support in Ubuntu (GNOME, Linux in general). Just for the heck of it, for I 
don't think these people are capable of remedying what they've destroyed. 
Simply because they know nothing of what they're doing. The whole 
design/implementation is so un-Linux it makes me puke.
Judging by this thread it also seems nobody cares anymore - they're all so 
complacent about their half-baked patches and crutches that barely work...

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-03 Thread Norbert
@Mikhail V. Golubev (mvgolubev)  @Kom-Si (val.komissarov) 
Михаил, Валерий, я полностью солидарен с Вами.
Я тоже задавался здесь такими же вопросами (см. например, мой последний 
комментарий #301, и другие - #216).

Самое страшное, что может произойти - это то, что этот недоделанный
ломанный-переломанный-недонастроенный переключатель клавиатуры перейдет
в Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (!) и люди, пользующиеся в Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
многоязычным вводом и желающие обновится на новую версию не смогут
пользоваться теми комбинациями, к которым они привыкли.

Мысля схожим с Вами образом я уже создал баг-репорт об остутствии задания 
сочетаний для смены раскладки галочками (как в 12.04) - это bug 1245064. Вся 
сеть багов о переключении раскладки видна с помощью тегов 
keyboard-layout-switching-hotkeys и keyboard-layout-switching-related (см. 
мой комментарий #293). Среди них есть баги о gnome-screensaver и lightdm.
Для систематизации возможностей тестирования создана таблица в Google Docs 
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVEusp=sharing).
 Однако особых движений в сторону ее заполнения нет. Всем 650 людям и 
ассигнованному похоже все равно.

В защиту Canonical можно сказать, что нынешний вид окна настройки
клавиатуры пришел из GNOME 3.4 (он также есть в OpenSUSE и Fedora).


I'm sorry for Russian language comment, наболело.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-03 Thread Kom-Si
@Norbert (nrbrtx), ну хорошо, Canonical is not the be blamed (at least not for 
the *whole* mess). But what Canonical DOES to address the problem? IMO very 
little ATM. Do they have Russian developers on board? 
Latin-based developers might just not realize how painful the whole 
language-switching situation is. They might lack the experience required, 
because они на эти грабли ещё не наступали... =/

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-03 Thread Egmont Koblinger
** Description changed:

  A PPA which should provide some relief for this issue is available at
  https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/1218322. There still remain
  issues regarding keyboard shortcuts though. To install:
  
  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/1218322
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get upgrade
  
  === gnome-control-center ===
  
  Impact: the UI to change the layout switching keys doesn't work
  
  Test case:
  - open gnome-control-center's text input settings
  - click on the next layout key entry
  - try entering a key combinaison (e.g ctrl-space)
  - the UI should reflect the new keys
  
  Regression potential: that UI was not working before, it should only be
  an improvement (some key combos are not working as expected, that's
  another issue and shouldn't be mixed with this one)
  
  === gnome-settings-daemon ===
  
  Impact: attempting to change keyboard layouts using only modifier keys
  doesn't work
  
  Test case:
  - add at least two input sources through gnome-control-center's text entry 
settings
  - use gsettings to set the input switching shortcut to ctrl+left shift: 
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source 
['PrimaryShift_L']
  - press and release ctrl+left shift
  - the current input source should change
  
  Regression potential: The input switching shortcut might capture other
  non-modifier shortcuts, but users will need to consider this when
  choosing their switching shortcut anyways. For users this bug affects,
  this represents a working solution for a critical bug.
  
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  Test results for different keyboard layout change hotkeys may be viewed
  and added in the Google Docs table, created by Norbert
  
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVEusp=sharing).
  
  --
  
  Separate bug reports for individual layout switching hotkey
  combinations:
  
  Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space:
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245137);
     * Unity session (bug 1245136);
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245138, bug 1245256);
     * ubiquity installer (bug 1242572).
  
  Alt+Shift:
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245258)
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Alt+Shift (bug 1245926)
  
  Ctrl+Shift:
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245270)
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245268)
-    * Can't set keyboard layout change to Ctrl+Shift (bug 1245991)
-    * If keyboard layout switching hotkey is set to Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Shift+C/V 
are not working in gnome-terminal (bug 1246656)
+    * Can't set keyboard layout change to Ctrl+Shift (bug 1245991)
+    * If keyboard layout switching hotkey is set to Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Shift+C/V 
are not working in gnome-terminal (bug 1246656)
  
  Shift+Shift:
     * Can't set keyboard layout change to Shift+Shift (bug 1245272)
     * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245278)
     * Unity greeter (bug 1245280)
  
  Bugs which belong to keyboard layout switching:
     * Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout in 13.10 (bug 
1226962)
     * Keyboard Layout Options window is missed in gnome-control-center 
keyboard (bug 1245064)
     * Unable to set keyboard LED to show alternative layout in 
gnome-control-center keyboard in Saucy (bug 1245188)
     * Unable to set Miscellaneous compatibility options in 
gnome-control-center keyboard in Saucy (bug 1245199)
     * Keyboard shortcut for changing keyboard layout does not work on lock 
screen (bug 1244548)
     * [FFe] indicator-keyboard not working under greeter (bug 1228207)
     * Lost ability to remap Caps Lock to Ctrl (bug 1215826)
     * gnome-control-center keyboard no longer has way to modify caps lock key 
behavior (bug 1224575)
     * Pressing Caps Lock toggles LED even when mapped to another key (bug 
1221403)
+* Switching layout turns off NumLock (bug 1247668)
  
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  Can't set keyboard layout change to ctrl+shift, Caps Lock, alt+shift
  etc. Shift, CapsLock keys are just ignored in settings. Also the
  default shortcut was set to Super+Space that is inconveniently,
  because Dash is opening when you swich your keyboard layout.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
  Package: indicator-keyboard 0.0.0+13.10.20130829.1-0ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-2.5-generic 3.11.0-rc5
  Uname: Linux 3.11.0-2-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.12.1-0ubuntu2
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Thu Aug 29 14:21:54 2013
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-07-31 (28 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander - Alpha amd64 (20130730)
  MarkForUpload: True
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=ru_UA:ru
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=set
   LANG=ru_UA.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: indicator-keyboard
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread Felipe Castillo
I'm using version 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1 of gnome-control-center installed
from the proposed repository and everything seems working. I have tested
both Shift keys and works flawlessly.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread Denis Zhdanov
I can't set grp:shift_caps_switch CapsLock (to first layout), Shift+CapsLock 
(to last layout) in gnome-control-center.
After update I can't set layout switching with setxkbmap or gnome tweaker. 
Settings replaced after few seconds.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread Peter Chervenski
I installed the latest updates, but the problem remains - I still can't
use Control+Shift to switch between layouts. It's always Disabled.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread Norbert
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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Norbert; since sometimes subscribers only receive email about status
being changed, please always explain your decisions or they will have to
enter Launchpad for every change made.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread Norbert
Hello, William Hua!

Thank you for your great work on fixing bug 1218322.

It seems that we need a set of rules for adding tag verificiation-done
for this bug. And we need a set of rules to mark it as fully fixed.

I already mentioned in bug description that I created a Google Docs
table for testing different keyboard shortcuts for changing keyboard
layout (it is here -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVEusp=sharing).

In this document I prepared a list of known hotkeys (some from 'gnome-
control-center keyboard' of Ubuntu 12.04.3 with GNOME 3.4.2, some of
them were mentioned in comments for bug).

Ubuntu 14.04 will be LTS and will be available in the next 6 month. So users of 
12.04 LTS may want to update to it.
I think that the best solution of keyboard layout switching problems will be to 
emulate Keyboard Layout Options (gnome-control-center keyboard in 12.04). 
Have you ever seen it?

Some of hotkeys, which were mentioned in comments of bug 1218322 are 
non-standard. They are: 
* Ctrl+Space
* Ctrl+Shift+Space
* Shift+Space
* Super+Shift
* Ctrl+Alt+Space
* Alt+Shift+Space
* Ctrl+Super
* Shift+Backspace
* Shift+Ctrl+Alt

The hotkeys which are listed in gnome-control-center of Ubuntu 12.04 and 
mentioned in comments are:
* Alt+Caps Lock
* Alt+Ctrl
* Alt+Shift
* Alt+Space
* Any Win key (while pressed)
* Both Alt keys together
* Both Ctrl keys together
* Both Shift keys together
* Caps Lock
* Caps Lock (to first layout), Shift+Caps Lock (to last layout)
* Ctrl+Shift
* Menu (has a conflict with right mouse click emulation)
* Shift+Caps Lock

The full list of 12.04 hotkeys are available in gnome-control-center keyboard 
or in my comment ( 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1218322/comments/216).
It seems, that current realization of layout switching hotkeys definition in 
13.10 make possible to define some of that hotkeys.


I think that bug 1218322 can be marked as fixed only if all hotkeys for layout 
switching that may be set with current next-source-previous-source logic:
1. can be set ;
2. can be used in Unity session and in GNOME FlashBack session (with and 
without effects) and in Ubuntu GNOME ;
3. do not brake other shortcuts (for example, Ctrl+Shift must allow to use 
Ctrl+Shift+C/V in gnome-terminal, use Ctrl+Shift+arrows for text selecting, 
etc.).

So we need testers that can verify that all possible hotkeys are working
normally. Test results may be written in Google Docs table.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread ZoLToR
After yesterday ubuntu update I now able to set change keyboard layout shortcut 
to Ctrl+Shift. But after I did that - other hotkeys with this combination 
exists stop working (e.g., Ctrl+Shift+V in gnome terminal or Ctrl+Shift+N in 
nautilus) - point 3 from comment #301 
_ 
Is any way to fix that?
p.s. Sorry for my english.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-02 Thread Vladyslav Stelmakhovskyi
Hi

I'm still cant get to work keyboard layout switch
After update to 13.10 worked only via manual switch on top bar, but after 
several updates it stopped to work complitely
Any suggestion? Probably I have to reset settings or reinstall a package

Also at startup I've getting gnome-settings-daemon crash

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-01 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
** Description changed:

  A PPA which should provide some relief for this issue is available at
  https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/1218322. There still remain
  issues regarding keyboard shortcuts though. To install:
  
  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:attente/1218322
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get upgrade
  
  === gnome-control-center ===
  
  Impact: the UI to change the layout switching keys doesn't work
  
  Test case:
  - open gnome-control-center's text input settings
  - click on the next layout key entry
  - try entering a key combinaison (e.g ctrl-space)
  - the UI should reflect the new keys
  
  Regression potential: that UI was not working before, it should only be
  an improvement (some key combos are not working as expected, that's
  another issue and shouldn't be mixed with this one)
  
  === gnome-settings-daemon ===
  
  Impact: attempting to change keyboard layouts using only modifier keys
  doesn't work
  
  Test case:
  - add at least two input sources through gnome-control-center's text entry 
settings
  - use gsettings to set the input switching shortcut to ctrl+left shift: 
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-input-source 
['PrimaryShift_L']
  - press and release ctrl+left shift
  - the current input source should change
  
  Regression potential: The input switching shortcut might capture other
  non-modifier shortcuts, but users will need to consider this when
  choosing their switching shortcut anyways. For users this bug affects,
  this represents a working solution for a critical bug.
  
  --
  
  Test results for different keyboard layout change hotkeys may be viewed
  and added in the Google Docs table, created by Norbert
  
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao5e713Ig9g_dEJrX2NRYlpLWWVzSWxsVXU4ck9HYVEusp=sharing).
  
  --
  
- Separate bug reports for individual layout switching hotkey combinations:
-  Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space, found in:
-   * Unity greeter 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1245137);
-   * Unity session 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1245136);
-   * lock screen - gnome-screensaver 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1245138);
-   * ubiquity installer 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1242572).
-  Alt+Shift
-   * lock screen - gnome-screensaver 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1245256)
-   * Unity greeter 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1245258)
-   * Can't set keyboard layout change to Alt+Shift 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1245926)
-  Ctrl+Shift
-   * lock screen - gnome-screensaver 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1245270)
-   * Unity greeter 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1245268)
-   * Can't set keyboard layout change to Ctrl+Shift 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1245991)
-   * If keyboard layout switching hotkey is set to Ctrl+Shift, 
Ctrl+Shift+C/V are not working in gnome-terminal 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1246656)
-  Shift+Shift
-   * Can't set keyboard layout change to Shift+Shift 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1245272)
-   * lock screen - gnome-screensaver 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1245278)
-   * Unity greeter 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1245280)
+ Separate bug reports for individual layout switching hotkey
+ combinations:
+ 
+ Super+Space and Shift+Super+Space:
+    * Unity greeter (bug 1245137);
+    * Unity session (bug 1245136);
+    * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245138, bug 1245256);
+    * ubiquity installer (bug 1242572).
+ 
+ Alt+Shift:
+    * Unity greeter (bug 1245258)
+    * Can't set keyboard layout change to Alt+Shift (bug 1245926)
+ 
+ Ctrl+Shift:
+    * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245270)
+    * Unity greeter (bug 1245268)
+    * Can't set keyboard layout change to Ctrl+Shift (bug 1245991)
+    * If keyboard layout switching hotkey is set to Ctrl+Shift, Ctrl+Shift+C/V 
are not working in gnome-terminal (bug 1246656)
+ 
+ Shift+Shift:
+    * Can't set keyboard layout change to Shift+Shift (bug 1245272)
+    * lock screen - gnome-screensaver (bug 1245278)
+    * Unity greeter (bug 1245280)
  
  Bugs which belong to keyboard layout switching:
-   * Hotkeys not functional in non-latin keyboard layout in 13.10 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1226962)
-   * Keyboard Layout Options window is missed in gnome-control-center 
keyboard
- (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1245064)
-   * Unable to set keyboard LED to show alternative layout in 

[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-01 Thread Станислав
Almost bug fixes , but for example in the application Synapse language
does not switch.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-01 Thread facepalm
I have updated and all works!

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-11-01 Thread facepalm
This bug seems fixed!

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-10-31 Thread n0dwis
Now i'ts possible to select (?) keys Shift, Alt, Ctrl and it's combination as a 
layout switchers. But language keep same. Neither Indicator nor real input be 
changed.
Ctrl+Space works fine like before.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-10-31 Thread n0dwis
I found one more bug. When I try to set Alt+Space for switch layout
Super+Space are shown.

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[Bug 1218322] Re: Can't set keyboard layout change to alt+shift, ctrl+shift, etc.

2013-10-31 Thread a...@ing-ss.com
Unfortunately, for [at least] Caps Lock as layout switching key current
state definitely not Fix Released. Just some workaround available.

So... After update to 3.8.5-0ubuntu11.1 from saucy-updates/main
(environment restart required):

What is OK:
 * Caps Lock could be set as next/previous layout switching key via System 
Settings-Text Entry
 * When Caps Lock is set as layout switching key original Caps Lock function 
could be achieved via Shift+Caps Lock, Caps Lock LED for Caps Lock function 
works OK

What is broken:
 * Caps Lock could not be set as next/previous layout switching key via System 
Settings-Keyboard-Shortcuts-Typing
 * Each layout switch with Caps Lock key resets original Caps Lock function 
state to off, so there's no more Caps Lock function, just some kind of sticky 
Shift
 * No ability to use Caps Lock LED for current layout indication (already 
reported as separate bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1245188 )

And last but not least... Specials thanks to William Hua for saving this
Ubuntu release.

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