Re: [OSM-dev] [ANNOUCEMENT] MapOSMatic: automatic generation of cities' map from OpenStreetMap data

2009-09-23 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
> If you find you cannot handle the whole planet, you could have a go at
> Europe (or in fact the "non-US planet") first, that gives you 80% less data.

I hope that you do not follow Frederik's perfectly reasonable
suggestion.  I'd selfishly like to see North American cities available
on OSMatic some day.

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [OSM-dev] The OpenStreetMap website is now translatable at Translatewiki

2009-09-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
>> But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the
>> main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in
>> TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.
>
> It's only the website at the moment as Siebrand says. But it would be
> very nice to add other OpenStreetMap applications, the most obvious
> next step being Potlatch.
>
> To add Potlatch some internal changes need to be done in Potlatch
> itself. I've filed a bug detailing what these are:
>
>    http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2304

I've now fixed Potlatch up so that it can be Translated on
Translatewiki. Now it just needs to be imported into Translatewiki.

I've put up a notice on the OSM wiki so that confused Translators
won't use it in the interim:


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Template:Potlatch/Translation&diff=345246&oldid=302899

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Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] The OpenStreetMap website is now translatable at Translatewiki

2009-09-23 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 


> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
>  wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  
> > wrote:
> >> But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the
> >> main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in
> >> TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.
> >
> > It's only the website at the moment as Siebrand says. But it would be
> > very nice to add other OpenStreetMap applications, the most obvious
> > next step being Potlatch.
>
> It would also be a very interesting project to use Translatewiki to
> translate some subsets of the OpenStreetMap data itself.
> 
> For instance country or state names, capitals, or cities with >0.5
> million people, stuff like that.

TranslateWiki .. awesome stuff!


Agreed some kind of way to translate specific parts of the OSM database would 
have huge payoff.
There's a large open translation community online, we only need to give them 
familiar tools.

I'd reckon that we'd want our own custom tool for this. It would connect to the 
API, rather than SVN.
Maps could be embedded in the tool, to provide geographic context for 
translators.


Also, the Foundation has growing needs for translators for our communications. 
Wonder if TranslateWiki or something else
is a way to get that done.

-Mikel


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Re: [OSM-dev] The OpenStreetMap website is now translatable at Translatewiki

2009-09-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
>> But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the
>> main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in
>> TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.
>
> It's only the website at the moment as Siebrand says. But it would be
> very nice to add other OpenStreetMap applications, the most obvious
> next step being Potlatch.

It would also be a very interesting project to use Translatewiki to
translate some subsets of the OpenStreetMap data itself.

For instance country or state names, capitals, or cities with >0.5
million people, stuff like that.

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Re: [OSM-dev] The OpenStreetMap website is now translatable at Translatewiki

2009-09-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
> But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the
> main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in
> TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.

It's only the website at the moment as Siebrand says. But it would be
very nice to add other OpenStreetMap applications, the most obvious
next step being Potlatch.

To add Potlatch some internal changes need to be done in Potlatch
itself. I've filed a bug detailing what these are:

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2304

I don't think Richard minds this change to Potlatch but he'd rather
not do the work since he's working on Potlatch 2. Changing this is
easy even if you're not familiar with Potlatch, you just have to
change all the calls to the iText(): remove the first parameter and
split it ont a YAML file.

If you (or someone else) interested in seeing Potlatch on
Translatewiki solving that bug is the first step towards doing that.
The second one is hacking an importer/exporter for Potlatch's YAML
format for Translatewiki. That's easy though, it's just a matter of
reusing the existing YAML code without all the complexities we had to
deal with for supporting applications using Rails' i18n framework.

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Re: [OSM-dev] How do I do make shaded area overlays with openlayers or something similar?

2009-09-23 Thread John Smith
2009/9/23 Steven te Brinke :
> OpenLayers has nice support for vectors. It supports many formats, you can
> easily add WKT geometries for example. This is the best way to go if you
> want to add simple or dynamic overlays.
> The postcode finder you mentioned uses a tiled layer. Such a layer can be
> rendered using Mapnik. I have a nice example in [1]: Google Hybrid like, but
> with OSM data on top of their aerial images (unfortunately my site is Dutch,
> but it shows the idea).

I ended up making a simple mapnik style sheet with just town names and
post codes.

This has made spotting errors really easy, although I'm stumped as to
why some post codes aren't being rendered, like this area:

http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=9&ll=-15.629,133.036&layer=00B00FF

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Re: [OSM-dev] How do I do make shaded area overlays with openlayers or something similar?

2009-09-23 Thread Steven te Brinke
OpenLayers has nice support for vectors. It supports many formats, you 
can easily add WKT geometries for example. This is the best way to go if 
you want to add simple or dynamic overlays.
The postcode finder you mentioned uses a tiled layer. Such a layer can 
be rendered using Mapnik. I have a nice example in [1]: Google Hybrid 
like, but with OSM data on top of their aerial images (unfortunately my 
site is Dutch, but it shows the idea).


Cheers,
Steven


[1] 
http://squall.student.utwente.nl/betonning/waterkaart.html?zoom=14&lat=53.17767&lon=5.41759&layers=0B0FT



Peter Körner schreef:

John Smith schrieb:
  

2009/9/22 Peter Körner :


You may want to take a look at http://topo.geofabrik.de/
  

I can't read German, is there a download link or something?



Oh I'm sorry I missread your mail..
I thought you wanted to have hill-shading for your map ;)

As far as I understand you, take a look on openlayers [0]
As shown on [1] it supports drawing vector-data on maps. As I don't have 
any special knowledge about the usage, I can't help you any further, but 
I'm sure so. here will.


Peter



[0] http://openlayers.org/
[1] http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/behavior-fixed-http-gml.html

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Re: [OSM-dev] [JOSM][RemoteControl] import?url

2009-09-23 Thread Etienne Chové
Frederik Ramm a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Etienne Chové wrote:
>> I'm trying to use remote control plugin from JOSM with function 
>> /import?url=... When I put an invalid url, I get an error, but when I 
>> put a valid osm file url, nothing appens.
> 
> People are reporting server problems ATM so try again later, and if the 
> problem persist, we'll investigate further.

I've josm-tested (version 1981) => it works
  josm-latest (version 2180) => it doesn't work

The bug occurs if no data have been downloaded before the call to 
openUrl (wich calls DownloadOsmTask). If I download some data with 
Ctrl+Maj+D and then call openUrl, it works fine.

I think the bug comes from :
http://tiny.cc/YYd0a

Cheers.

Etienne

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Re: [OSM-dev] [ANNOUCEMENT] MapOSMatic: automatic generation of cities' map from OpenStreetMap data

2009-09-23 Thread David MENTRE
Frederik,

2009/9/23 Frederik Ramm :
> A daily diff should be doable in 3-4 hours on standard hardware. Maybe you
> can use some information from this thread:
>
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-September/016824.html

Ok. We'll look at it.

> Is Sylvain Letuffe involved in your project? I believe he might have some
> experience that could be useful to you.

He is not involved but we will probably ask him on talk...@. Good idea
to point this out.

> If you find you cannot handle the whole planet, you could have a go at
> Europe (or in fact the "non-US planet") first, that gives you 80% less data.

That's another option that would still be interesting (like looking at
i18n issues) but could be handled more easily.

Many thanks for the tips,
Best regards,
d.

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[OSM-dev] t...@h Server Down

2009-09-23 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
FYI,

there was a power blackout at the ETH and the t...@h server was affected
too. Power is on again, but apparently some firewall network cards seem
to be damaged, so t...@h is currently not reachable by anyone (including me).

I was promised to get to know when they resolved the issue but ATM I can
give no estimates on when that would be the case, sorry.

Sebastian



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Re: [OSM-dev] [ANNOUCEMENT] MapOSMatic: automatic generation of cities' map from OpenStreetMap data

2009-09-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
David,

David MENTRE wrote:
> But we are working on world support. The change of scale (75 GiB of
> database, 9h to import a daily diff) has a bit surprised us. We are
> discovering that the OSM world is huge! ;-)

A daily diff should be doable in 3-4 hours on standard hardware. Maybe 
you can use some information from this thread:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-September/016824.html

Is Sylvain Letuffe involved in your project? I believe he might have 
some experience that could be useful to you.

If you find you cannot handle the whole planet, you could have a go at 
Europe (or in fact the "non-US planet") first, that gives you 80% less data.

Bye
Frederik


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Re: [OSM-dev] [ANNOUCEMENT] MapOSMatic: automatic generation of cities' map from OpenStreetMap data

2009-09-23 Thread David MENTRE
Hello Philip and Frederik,

2009/9/21 Frederik Ramm :
> Philip Gillißen wrote:
>> 1. I tried to enter "Leverkusen" but your application did not found
>> administrative boundaries.
>> 2. I created a map for the boundary box:
>> http://maposmatic.org/jobs/2534
>> As you can see, there's no map, but a nice border ;)
>
> As David wrote in the announcement that you quoted: "For now, it only
> supports rendering French metropolitan cities' maps".
>
> Thus your observations don't really come as a surprise.

Yes, as Frederik underlined, we are only supporting metropolitan
France right now.

But we are working on world support. The change of scale (75 GiB of
database, 9h to import a daily diff) has a bit surprised us. We are
discovering that the OSM world is huge! ;-)

Best regards,
david

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