Re: Roseline Bassey - Community Architect Intern Introduction

[Justin W. Flory (he/him)]

Welcome to the Fedora community, Roseline!  I'm excited to have you as an
intern over the next few months. 

I also put this in my last reply, but for anyone curious about how the
Outreachy internships are being conducted, you can see the intern issue
tracker on GitLab [1] for more
information.

[1] – https://gitlab.com/fedora/commops/interns/

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 2:40 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
domi...@greysector.net> wrote:

> Hello, Roseline!
>
> On Monday, 27 May 2024 at 17:26, Roseline Bassey wrote:
> [...]
> > I’m excited to bring my experience and skills and to contribute to and
> > support various Fedora teams and the broader community during my
> > internship.
>
> Welcome to Fedora!
>
> Regards,
> Dominik
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Re: Tosin Adesola - Community Architect Intern Introduction

[Justin W. Flory (he/him)]

Welcome to the Fedora community, Tosin!  Looking forward to working with
you over the next few months. 

For anyone curious about how the Outreachy internships are being conducted,
you can see the intern issue tracker on GitLab
[1] for more information.

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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:52 AM Priscila Gutierres 
wrote:

> Good to see you here Tosin.
> Welcome :-)
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:51 AM TosinDoreen  wrote:
>
>> Hello Fedora folks!﫡
>>
>> I'm Tosin Adesola, excited to join your ranks as a community architect
>> intern. I'm calling Nigeria home, and while my Linux experience is mostly
>> through Outreachy, I'm eager to dive deeper into the Fedora universe.
>>
>> Community building is my jam – I love bringing people together,
>> coordinating events, and making sure everyone feels included. I'm thrilled
>> to bring that passion to Fedora and learn all I can about Git, tech
>> writing, and crafting engaging social content. Let's collaborate!
>>
>> Connect with me on:
>>
>> Email: tosindor...@gmail.com
>> Matrix: @tosin_doreen:matrix.org
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Re: Self-Introduction: Peter Pentchev

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On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 09:35:52AM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> Hello, Peter!
> 
> On Tuesday, 28 May 2024 at 08:23, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> [...]
> > If my packager group application is accepted,
> 
> Have you gone through the other steps outlined in 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/
> ?

Yes, and I already have a reviewed package - spiped,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2265862 - and AFAIU the next
step should be creating a dist-git repository, hence the packager group
application :)

> > I will try to
> > help several packaging teams within Fedora (Python, Perl, Rust, maybe
> > some other topic-based ones) and probably separately package some tools
> > that I use on a daily basis, some written by me, some by others.
> 
> Sounds good. Welcome to Fedora!

Thank you! From what I've seen in the mailing lists in the past several
years when I've been mostly lurking, it is mostly a nice place :)

> > PGP key:http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc
> 
> You might want to update this URL to use https.

Right... good catch. Of course, the FreeBSD webserver had an automatic
redirect, but it was kind of high time I moved that over to my own
website. Thanks!

G'luck,
Peter

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Re: Self-Introduction: Peter Pentchev

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hello, Peter!

On Tuesday, 28 May 2024 at 08:23, Peter Pentchev wrote:
[...]
> If my packager group application is accepted,

Have you gone through the other steps outlined in 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/
?

> I will try to
> help several packaging teams within Fedora (Python, Perl, Rust, maybe
> some other topic-based ones) and probably separately package some tools
> that I use on a daily basis, some written by me, some by others.

Sounds good. Welcome to Fedora!

> PGP key:http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc

You might want to update this URL to use https.

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Self-Introduction: Peter Pentchev

[Peter Pentchev]

Hi,

My name is Peter Pentchev. I am a software developer who has been
wrangling computers since 1986 and free/libre-software OS's and
distributions since 1997 (Slackware and RedHat (way before RHEL) at
first, then a decade or two of FreeBSD, then a decade or two of Debian).
I have maintained packages for FreeBSD since the year 2000, for Debian
since 2004-2005, and (unofficially, in personal and vendor repositories)
for CentOS and RHEL since 2013.

My main interests lie in system and network programming, but I have
dabbled in almost all areas of software development over the years with
varying degrees of success. My longest programming experience is in C
and Perl, but lately I prefer a mixture of Rust, type-checked Python,
and, when absolutely necessary, very carefully written POSIX shell and
Bash. If my packager group application is accepted, I will try to
help several packaging teams within Fedora (Python, Perl, Rust, maybe
some other topic-based ones) and probably separately package some tools
that I use on a daily basis, some written by me, some by others.

Thanks for reading this, and thanks for working on Fedora - it takes so
many different kinds of people doing so many different kinds of tasks to
create and maintain a working software distrubition!

G'luck,
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Re: Roseline Bassey - Community Architect Intern Introduction

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hello, Roseline!

On Monday, 27 May 2024 at 17:26, Roseline Bassey wrote:
[...]
> I’m excited to bring my experience and skills and to contribute to and
> support various Fedora teams and the broader community during my
> internship.

Welcome to Fedora!

Regards,
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Roseline Bassey - Community Architect Intern Introduction

[Roseline Bassey]

Hello, Fedora devel.

My name is Roseline Bassey, and I’m from Nigeria. I’m thrilled to begin my 
internship today as a Community Architect Intern with Fedora through the 
Outreachy internship program. My interest in the inner workings of managing 
global open source communities has driven my passion for community management. 
This led me to become a community builder for the Women in Cloud Native 
community. I’m excited to bring my experience and skills and to contribute to 
and support various Fedora teams and the broader community during my internship.

If you need to reach me, I’ll be active on the following platforms:

Fedora Discussions: @roseline-bassey
Matrix: @roseline:matrix.org
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Re: Tosin Adesola - Community Architect Intern Introduction

[Priscila Gutierres]

Good to see you here Tosin.
Welcome :-)

On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 9:51 AM TosinDoreen  wrote:

> Hello Fedora folks!﫡
>
> I'm Tosin Adesola, excited to join your ranks as a community architect
> intern. I'm calling Nigeria home, and while my Linux experience is mostly
> through Outreachy, I'm eager to dive deeper into the Fedora universe.
>
> Community building is my jam – I love bringing people together,
> coordinating events, and making sure everyone feels included. I'm thrilled
> to bring that passion to Fedora and learn all I can about Git, tech
> writing, and crafting engaging social content. Let's collaborate!
>
> Connect with me on:
>
> Email: tosindor...@gmail.com
> Matrix: @tosin_doreen:matrix.org
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Tosin Adesola - Community Architect Intern Introduction

[TosinDoreen]

Hello Fedora folks!﫡 

I'm Tosin Adesola, excited to join your ranks as a community architect intern. 
I'm calling Nigeria home, and while my Linux experience is mostly through 
Outreachy, I'm eager to dive deeper into the Fedora universe.

Community building is my jam – I love bringing people together, coordinating 
events, and making sure everyone feels included. I'm thrilled to bring that 
passion to Fedora and learn all I can about Git, tech writing, and crafting 
engaging social content. Let's collaborate!

Connect with me on:

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Matrix: @tosin_doreen:matrix.org
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Tosin Adesola - Community Architect Intern Introduction

[TosinDoreen]

Hello Fedora folks!﫡 

I'm Tosin Adesola, excited to join your ranks as a community architect intern. 
I'm calling Nigeria home, and while my Linux experience is mostly through 
Outreachy, I'm eager to dive deeper into the Fedora universe.

Community building is my jam – I love bringing people together, coordinating 
events, and making sure everyone feels included. I'm thrilled to bring that 
passion to Fedora and learn all I can about Git, tech writing, and crafting 
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Connect with me on:

Email: tosindor...@gmail.com
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Re: Self Introduction: Jose Fernandez

[Jonathan Wright via devel]

Welcome to Fedora!

On Sat, May 25, 2024, 09:37 Jose Fernandez  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm Jose. I work at Netflix on the Compute Runtime team. We manage the
> multi-tenant container runtime and the base OS (Ubuntu-based). My expertise
> is in observability, performance, and reliability. My current focus is on
> container technology, the Linux kernel, CPU schedulers, and eBPF.
>
> I recently became a Kernel contributor with patches to bpf [1] and amdgpu
> [2].
> I'm the author and maintainer of bpftop [3], a process monitor for eBPF
> apps
> built with Rust that leverages libbpf-rs and ratatui.
>
> I'm beginning to get involved in the sched_ext [4] project, primarily
> contributing to libbpf-rs and scx_rustland, the Rust-based user-space CPU
> scheduler.
>
> My main topic is packaging bpftop for Fedora [5]. I'm working on packaging
> the missing crates [6] [7] and looking for a sponsor.
>
> I'm looking forward to learning more about Fedora and the packaging
> ecosystem.
>
> - Jose
>
> [1]
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=ce09cbdd97662546a1175bcfdfc6c8fdd150
> [2]
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=130afc8a886183a94cf6eab7d24f300014ff87ba
> [3] https://github.com/Netflix/bpftop
> [4] https://github.com/sched-ext/scx/pull/285
> [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2281565
> [6] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2282282
> [7] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2282804
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Re: Self Introduction: Jose Fernandez

[Jose Fernandez]

> Hello, Josh try making an issue in packager-sponsors as well
> https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue

Thank you for the suggestion. I found a sponsor via the issue tracker.
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Re: Self Introduction: Jose Fernandez

[Man2Dev via devel]

Hello, Josh try making an issue in packager-sponsors as well 
https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue


 Original Message 
On 5/25/24 18:06, Jose Fernandez  wrote:

>  Hi folks,
>  
>  I'm Jose. I work at Netflix on the Compute Runtime team. We manage the
>  multi-tenant container runtime and the base OS (Ubuntu-based). My expertise
>  is in observability, performance, and reliability. My current focus is on
>  container technology, the Linux kernel, CPU schedulers, and eBPF.
>  
>  I recently became a Kernel contributor with patches to bpf [1] and amdgpu 
> [2].
>  I'm the author and maintainer of bpftop [3], a process monitor for eBPF apps
>  built with Rust that leverages libbpf-rs and ratatui.
>  
>  I'm beginning to get involved in the sched_ext [4] project, primarily
>  contributing to libbpf-rs and scx_rustland, the Rust-based user-space CPU
>  scheduler.
>  
>  My main topic is packaging bpftop for Fedora [5]. I'm working on packaging
>  the missing crates [6] [7] and looking for a sponsor.
>  
>  I'm looking forward to learning more about Fedora and the packaging 
> ecosystem.
>  
>  - Jose
>  
>  [1] 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=ce09cbdd97662546a1175bcfdfc6c8fdd150
>  [2] 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=130afc8a886183a94cf6eab7d24f300014ff87ba
>  [3] https://github.com/Netflix/bpftop
>  [4] https://github.com/sched-ext/scx/pull/285
>  [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2281565
>  [6] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2282282
>  [7] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2282804
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Self Introduction: Jose Fernandez

[Jose Fernandez]

Hi folks,

I'm Jose. I work at Netflix on the Compute Runtime team. We manage the
multi-tenant container runtime and the base OS (Ubuntu-based). My expertise
is in observability, performance, and reliability. My current focus is on
container technology, the Linux kernel, CPU schedulers, and eBPF.

I recently became a Kernel contributor with patches to bpf [1] and amdgpu [2].
I'm the author and maintainer of bpftop [3], a process monitor for eBPF apps
built with Rust that leverages libbpf-rs and ratatui.

I'm beginning to get involved in the sched_ext [4] project, primarily
contributing to libbpf-rs and scx_rustland, the Rust-based user-space CPU
scheduler.

My main topic is packaging bpftop for Fedora [5]. I'm working on packaging
the missing crates [6] [7] and looking for a sponsor.

I'm looking forward to learning more about Fedora and the packaging ecosystem.

- Jose

[1] 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=ce09cbdd97662546a1175bcfdfc6c8fdd150
[2] 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=130afc8a886183a94cf6eab7d24f300014ff87ba
[3] https://github.com/Netflix/bpftop
[4] https://github.com/sched-ext/scx/pull/285
[5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2281565
[6] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2282282
[7] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2282804
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Re: Personal introduction // Interested in adopting orphans

[Sandro]

On 24-05-2024 07:11, Paul Pfeister via devel wrote:

Last Thursday, an inactive packagers list was sent out on devel with a list
of now-orphaned packages. Among these are python-git-changelog
  and
python-pyzabbix. Both
of these packages are currently still orphaned, and I have an interest in
adopting either or both packages.

python-git-changelog's only maintainer was (seemingly) pushed inactive.
python-pyzabbix's co-maintainer is an existing packager, but after speaking
with Orion, he is not interested in adopting as the main admin due to time
constraints, and he has opened the door for me to do so myself.


Well, with regards to python-git-changelog, there are two more admins 
listed. One of them is neuro-sig grroup. We decided to let this package 
go, since we have no need for it within the group and nothing within 
Fedora appears to depend on it.


I'd be willing to sit on the package for you until you have been 
sponsored into the packagers group. But I have no interest in 
maintaining it. The package lags several versions behind upstream and 
hasn't seen any attention in years.


Having said that, how far away are you from being sponsored? The 
packages will be available for another few weeks before being retired. 
From there on you'd have another eight weeks before needing a re-review.


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Personal introduction // Interested in adopting orphans

[Paul Pfeister via devel]

Hi all!

I've probably met a few of you on Matrix already. I've been lurking on irc,
but that side is fairly quiet nowadays. (irc is still my go to outside of
Fedora)

For those of you who I haven't spoken to yet...
I work primarily in the security and infrastructure space, with some
systems and software background sprinkled in as well. I've recently joined
Sherlock  (upstream) as a
maintainer, and have put in a good bit of work reworking things after a
nearly-stale year for the project.

After packaging Sherlock for PyPI and DockerHub, I eventually found my way
over to my personal distro of choice. Figured I may as well package for the
system I use most. Opened a couple Bugzilla requests for review (namely
sherlock-project  and
python-exrex ) and a
pagure request for sponsorship (python-exrex
) after getting quite a bit
of helpful feedback from current packagers.

Last Thursday, an inactive packagers list was sent out on devel with a list
of now-orphaned packages. Among these are python-git-changelog
 and
python-pyzabbix . Both
of these packages are currently still orphaned, and I have an interest in
adopting either or both packages.

python-git-changelog's only maintainer was (seemingly) pushed inactive.
python-pyzabbix's co-maintainer is an existing packager, but after speaking
with Orion, he is not interested in adopting as the main admin due to time
constraints, and he has opened the door for me to do so myself.

>From what you all have seen, is there anything that I may need to consider
for these packages before adoption, that I may not have already? Horror
stories or words of caution?
I'm unable to *officially* claim these packages as I'm not yet in the
packagers group, but I plan to do so as soon as I have some sort of
sponsorship (help there is appreciated, of course!).

Glad to meet y'all!

Paul Pfeister
FAS  // GitHub
 (more active recently)
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Re: Self Introduction: Oliver Steffen

[Germano Massullo]

Hi Oliver! Welcome!
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Self Introduction: Oliver Steffen

[Oliver Steffen]

Hi,

I am Oliver, I work at Red Hat in the Virtualization Team, focussing on
Confidential Computing, EDK2 Firmware, and boot in general. My current
main topic is the Coconut-SVSM[1], which I would like to bring to Fedora.

I am looking forward to woking with you all :-)

- Oliver


[1] https://github.com/coconut-svsm/svsm
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Re: Self Introduction: Attila Kovacs

[Mattia Verga via devel]

Il 22/05/24 6:13 PM, Attila Kovacs ha scritto:
> Hi!
>
Hi Attila and welcome to the Fedora community!

I myself am just an amateur astronomer trying to keep up packaging some 
useful software in Fedora, but I look forward in seeing SuperNOVAS 
packaged in our repositories. Don't hesitate to ask me if you have any 
question about packaging, I'm not a sponsor, but I can do a review of 
the package submission when ready.

Mattia

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Re: Self Introduction: Attila Kovacs

[Benson Muite]

On 22/05/2024 19.13, Attila Kovacs wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm an astrophysicist / developer (nowadays more developer than 
> astrohysicist). I mostly write code in C and Java (for work and for personal 
> stuff). My main job is maintaining and developing software for the 
> Smithsonian's Submillimeter Array (SMA) observatory atop Maunakea. Some of 
> the software we develop can have wider application. Hence I'm starting to 
> spin off and open-source some of the more universally applicable bits of our 
> code.
> 
> For example, at the SMA (and the MIT Haystack 37-m telescope) we use a 
> customized version of the Naval Observatory Vector Astrometry Software 
> (NOVAS) C 3.1. I have fixed a bunch of bugs in it, cleaned up the API, added 
> browseable documentation, and extended its functionality with new features. 
> My goal is to make it easier and safer to use it, while promoting best 
> practices also. This is is how the SuperNOVAS package on GitHub was born, 
> somewhat recently. It is a light-weight high-precision C/C++ astrometry 
> library capable of sub-microarsecond position calculations. Thus is may serve 
> as a component for running observatories (or your backyard telescope), or a 
> very precise planetarium program, or any other astronomy software that needs 
> to calculate positions of celestial objects with accuracy. The source code 
> and releases are hosted at:
> 
>   https://github.com/Smithsonian/SuperNOVAS
> 
> And you can find more information, including the online documentation at the 
> project pages at:
> 
>  https://smithsonian.github.io/SuperNOVAS/
>  
> Its second release (v1.0.1) just got published some two weeks ago. (Yay!)
> 
> Next I would like to package it for Fedora, not the least because the Debian 
> folks have expressed interest -- which is all great, but I myself have been a 
> Fedora / RedHatter since '97, so I'd look forward to a Fedora package ever 
> more so. I am hoping to find a sponsor too. If I understand correctly that's 
> a separate step from the self intro here, but if you would want to help guide 
> me anyway, I'd very much welcome it any time.

Welcome to Fedora.  Consider joining the Astronomy and Scitech SIGS:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Astronomy_SIG

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SciTech_SIG

> 
> I look forward to working with you and learning from you.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> -- Attila.
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Self Introduction: Attila Kovacs

[Attila Kovacs]

Hi!

I'm an astrophysicist / developer (nowadays more developer than astrohysicist). 
I mostly write code in C and Java (for work and for personal stuff). My main 
job is maintaining and developing software for the Smithsonian's Submillimeter 
Array (SMA) observatory atop Maunakea. Some of the software we develop can have 
wider application. Hence I'm starting to spin off and open-source some of the 
more universally applicable bits of our code.

For example, at the SMA (and the MIT Haystack 37-m telescope) we use a 
customized version of the Naval Observatory Vector Astrometry Software (NOVAS) 
C 3.1. I have fixed a bunch of bugs in it, cleaned up the API, added browseable 
documentation, and extended its functionality with new features. My goal is to 
make it easier and safer to use it, while promoting best practices also. This 
is is how the SuperNOVAS package on GitHub was born, somewhat recently. It is a 
light-weight high-precision C/C++ astrometry library capable of 
sub-microarsecond position calculations. Thus is may serve as a component for 
running observatories (or your backyard telescope), or a very precise 
planetarium program, or any other astronomy software that needs to calculate 
positions of celestial objects with accuracy. The source code and releases are 
hosted at:

  https://github.com/Smithsonian/SuperNOVAS

And you can find more information, including the online documentation at the 
project pages at:

 https://smithsonian.github.io/SuperNOVAS/
 
Its second release (v1.0.1) just got published some two weeks ago. (Yay!)

Next I would like to package it for Fedora, not the least because the Debian 
folks have expressed interest -- which is all great, but I myself have been a 
Fedora / RedHatter since '97, so I'd look forward to a Fedora package ever more 
so. I am hoping to find a sponsor too. If I understand correctly that's a 
separate step from the self intro here, but if you would want to help guide me 
anyway, I'd very much welcome it any time.

I look forward to working with you and learning from you.

cheers,

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Re: Introduction: Adrian Edwards - Fedora Community Architect Intern

[Justin W. Flory (he/him)]

Welcome to the Fedora community, Adrian! 

On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 3:33 PM Adrian Edwards 
wrote:

> Hello Fedora devel mailing list,
>
> My name is Adrian and i'm a CS student at RIT who is minoring in Free and
> Open Source Software. I wanted to send this out briefly to introduce myself.
> I'll be working as a Fedora Community Architect Intern during my time with
> Red Hat in Boston (US/Eastern TZ) and I'm excited to learn about the Fedora
> community. One particular recurring interest of mine has been wondering how
> to encourage more of the people who benefit from open source to support it
> or give back in some way so that working on smaller, independent open
> source passion projects that others rely on can become as common as making
> a living working on corporate-controlled open source and improve the
> stability of the system as a whole (here's an [amazing podcast episode](
> https://www.npr.org/2024/05/17/1197959102/open-source-xz-hack) i recently
> heard about the recent XZ hack that makes a really good point about public
> goods at the end).
>
> Maybe this is a bigger goal than I'll realistically be able to tackle in
> the next few months in my current role, but I hope to at least learn as
> much as possible about Fedora and surrounding communities to see where
> there may be opportunities for me to make a difference.
>
> If you need to reach me, I'll do my best to monitor the following places:
>   - Fedora Discussions: @moralcode
>   - Matrix: @moralcode:fedora.im
>   - Email: moralc...@fedoraproject.org
>
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Introduction: Adrian Edwards - Fedora Community Architect Intern

[Adrian Edwards]

Hello Fedora devel mailing list,

My name is Adrian and i'm a CS student at RIT who is minoring in Free and Open 
Source Software. I wanted to send this out briefly to introduce myself.
I'll be working as a Fedora Community Architect Intern during my time with Red 
Hat in Boston (US/Eastern TZ) and I'm excited to learn about the Fedora 
community. One particular recurring interest of mine has been wondering how to 
encourage more of the people who benefit from open source to support it or give 
back in some way so that working on smaller, independent open source passion 
projects that others rely on can become as common as making a living working on 
corporate-controlled open source and improve the stability of the system as a 
whole (here's an [amazing podcast 
episode](https://www.npr.org/2024/05/17/1197959102/open-source-xz-hack) i 
recently heard about the recent XZ hack that makes a really good point about 
public goods at the end). 

Maybe this is a bigger goal than I'll realistically be able to tackle in the 
next few months in my current role, but I hope to at least learn as much as 
possible about Fedora and surrounding communities to see where there may be 
opportunities for me to make a difference.

If you need to reach me, I'll do my best to monitor the following places:
  - Fedora Discussions: @moralcode
  - Matrix: @moralcode:fedora.im
  - Email: moralc...@fedoraproject.org

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Re: Self Introduction: Mateus Rodrigues Costa

[Priscila Gutierres]

Olá Mateus! Bom ver mais brasileiros aqui! :-)


On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 11:21 PM Mateus Rodrigues Costa <
mateusrodco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Mateus Rodrigues Costa, I'm a Brazilian Programmer with a
> degree in Software Engineering but currently going for a Computer
> Engineering degree as well.
>
> I have been a Fedora Contributor since 2021, but so far I have been
> mostly contributing as part of Fedora Magazine (my articles can be
> found at https://fedoramagazine.org/author/mateusrodcosta/).
> I recently became a member of the "Brazilian Fedora Council" with a
> goal of better organizing contributions from Brazilian contributors.
>
> Recently I have created a thumbnailer, bign-handheld-thumbnailer
> (https://github.com/MateusRodCosta/bign-handheld-thumbnailer) and I
> have created a spec
> (https://pagure.io/bign-handheld-thumbnailer-spec/) and I currently
> set a COPR (
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/mateusrodcosta/bign-handheld-thumbnailer/
> ).
>
> I'm interested in becoming a packager and packaging it myself for Fedora.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Mateus Rodrigues Costa
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Self Introduction: Mateus Rodrigues Costa

[Mateus Rodrigues Costa]

Hello everyone,

My name is Mateus Rodrigues Costa, I'm a Brazilian Programmer with a
degree in Software Engineering but currently going for a Computer
Engineering degree as well.

I have been a Fedora Contributor since 2021, but so far I have been
mostly contributing as part of Fedora Magazine (my articles can be
found at https://fedoramagazine.org/author/mateusrodcosta/).
I recently became a member of the "Brazilian Fedora Council" with a
goal of better organizing contributions from Brazilian contributors.

Recently I have created a thumbnailer, bign-handheld-thumbnailer
(https://github.com/MateusRodCosta/bign-handheld-thumbnailer) and I
have created a spec
(https://pagure.io/bign-handheld-thumbnailer-spec/) and I currently
set a COPR 
(https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/mateusrodcosta/bign-handheld-thumbnailer/).

I'm interested in becoming a packager and packaging it myself for Fedora.

Thanks for your time,
Mateus Rodrigues Costa
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Re: Self Introduction: Susan LeGendre-McGhee

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hello, Susan.

On Thursday, 09 May 2024 at 20:53, Susan LeGendre-McGhee wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I'd like to introduce myself to the community. @bgurney reviewed and
> approved my first package at
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2273535. As such, I'm now
> looking for someone to sponsor me. My official request for sponsorship is
> at https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/657.
> 
> I have been developing software for over a decade, mostly in the realm of
> embedded applications. For the last two years, I have also co-maintained the
> VDO kernel and user tool packages for CentOS/RHEL. Our kernel module has
> been accepted upstream and is included in the 6.9 kernel that was pulled in
> for F41. I would like to maintain the VDO user tools for Fedora, and
> potentially other packages in the future.

Great stuff!

> I generally love learning and contributing wherever I can, so my interests
> are broad. I look forward to contributing more to Fedora.

Welcome to Fedora!

Regards,
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Self Introduction: Susan LeGendre-McGhee

[Susan LeGendre-McGhee]

Hey all,

I'd like to introduce myself to the community. @bgurney reviewed and
approved my first package at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2273535. As such, I'm now
looking for someone to sponsor me. My official request for sponsorship is
at https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/657.

I have been developing software for over a decade, mostly in the realm of
embedded applications. For the last two years, I have also co-maintained the
VDO kernel and user tool packages for CentOS/RHEL. Our kernel module has
been accepted upstream and is included in the 6.9 kernel that was pulled in
for F41. I would like to maintain the VDO user tools for Fedora, and
potentially other packages in the future.

I generally love learning and contributing wherever I can, so my interests
are broad. I look forward to contributing more to Fedora.

Thanks,
Susan

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Re: Self Introduction: Jan André Reuter

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hello, Jan!

On Friday, 03 May 2024 at 11:29, Jan Andre Reuter wrote:
[...]
> I decided to learn a bit about the packaging and open a PR to update
> it to the latest release. I have still a lot to learn, but I'm eager
> to learn more about the packaging and everything around it.

Welcome to Fedora. Your achievements are quite impressive already and
we're definitely looking forward to more contributions from you.

Please consider joining the SciTech SIG:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SciTech_SIG as this group's
interests seem to overlap with yours.

Regards,
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Re: Self Introduction: Jan André Reuter

[Benson Muite]

On 03/05/2024 12.29, Jan Andre Reuter wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I'd like to self introduce myself to the devel community.
> 
> My name is Jan, I'm 27 years old and working in the Jülich
> Supercomputing Centre (JSC) at the Research Center Jülich as a software
> developer and researcher. I've started working at the Research Center
> back in 2015, initially as a part of the vocational training for a
> mathematical technical software developer and since 2018 as a researcher
> working on software for HPC systems (full time since 2020, after
> finishing my masters). In December 2022, I switched institutes and
> joined the Parallel Performance team at JSC to work on the open-source
> performance infrastructure Score-P and improve its support for OpenMP
> (mostly via the OpenMP Tools Interface), compilers, and accelerators in
> general.
> 
> My interests in general involve everything around HPC development and
> performance analysis, and (on a less work-focused level) PC hardware and
> board games.
> 
> After our last release mid March, I've noticed that the Fedora package
> of Score-P was a few versions behind the current one. As we update most
> of the available install methods ourselves (like EasyBuild/Spack), I was
> also interested in providing a newer version for Fedora. Therefore, I
> decided to learn a bit about the packaging and open a PR to update it to
> the latest release. I have still a lot to learn, but I'm eager to learn
> more about the packaging and everything around it.
> 
> You can find my first PRs down below:
> 
> - Update Score-P to v8.4:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/scorep/pull-request/1
> - Update OPARI2 to v2.0.8:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/opari2/pull-request/1
> - Fix for update, since Score-P requires libunwind-devel to be present:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/scorep/pull-request/2
> 
> In the long term, I'd love to help maintaining Score-P
>  and its associated packages
> (OPARI2 , Cube
> , Scalasca
> , OTF2
> ) for Fedora, since our
> releases are often coupled together and I have close contact to the
> people working on these packages.

Welcome Jan.  You might also consider joining the Science and Technology
and Heterogeneous Computing SIGs:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SciTech_SIG
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/HC

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Self Introduction: Jan André Reuter

[Jan Andre Reuter]

Hey everyone,

I'd like to self introduce myself to the devel community.

My name is Jan, I'm 27 years old and working in the Jülich 
Supercomputing Centre (JSC) at the Research Center Jülich as a software 
developer and researcher. I've started working at the Research Center 
back in 2015, initially as a part of the vocational training for a 
mathematical technical software developer and since 2018 as a researcher 
working on software for HPC systems (full time since 2020, after 
finishing my masters). In December 2022, I switched institutes and 
joined the Parallel Performance team at JSC to work on the open-source 
performance infrastructure Score-P and improve its support for OpenMP 
(mostly via the OpenMP Tools Interface), compilers, and accelerators in 
general.


My interests in general involve everything around HPC development and 
performance analysis, and (on a less work-focused level) PC hardware and 
board games.


After our last release mid March, I've noticed that the Fedora package 
of Score-P was a few versions behind the current one. As we update most 
of the available install methods ourselves (like EasyBuild/Spack), I was 
also interested in providing a newer version for Fedora. Therefore, I 
decided to learn a bit about the packaging and open a PR to update it to 
the latest release. I have still a lot to learn, but I'm eager to learn 
more about the packaging and everything around it.


You can find my first PRs down below:

- Update Score-P to v8.4: 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/scorep/pull-request/1
- Update OPARI2 to v2.0.8: 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/opari2/pull-request/1
- Fix for update, since Score-P requires libunwind-devel to be present: 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/scorep/pull-request/2


In the long term, I'd love to help maintaining Score-P 
 and its associated packages 
(OPARI2 , Cube 
, Scalasca 
, OTF2 
) for Fedora, since our 
releases are often coupled together and I have close contact to the 
people working on these packages.


Jan

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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Łukasz Wojniłowicz]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:43:22 +0200
Fabio Valentini  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:16 PM Łukasz Wojniłowicz
>  wrote:
> >
> > You're welcome. rust-appdirs got in and I believe is waiting to be
> > available in the repositories.  
> 
> No, it's waiting for *you* to actually import the package. :)
> Just getting the package review ticket approved does nothing on its
> own.
> 
> > Meanwhile, I try to get another dependencies in at:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276462
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276290  
> 
> I will try to get to those soon, but I can't promise when I will have
> the time to do so.
> 
> Fabio

Great. Then I guess I don't have to consider a "review swap" anymore as
mentioned at
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Review_Process/#_contributor

No rush though. I might get this aw-server-rust concurrently on my COPR
and then wait for its dependencies to be accepted one-by-one in a
leisurely fashion.

Łukasz
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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Łukasz Wojniłowicz]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:44:26 +0200
Fabio Valentini  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:43 PM Fabio Valentini
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:16 PM Łukasz Wojniłowicz
> >  wrote:  
> > >
> > > You're welcome. rust-appdirs got in and I believe is waiting to be
> > > available in the repositories.  
> >
> > No, it's waiting for *you* to actually import the package. :)
> > Just getting the package review ticket approved does nothing on its
> > own.  
> 
> Sorry, I just saw that you imported and built the package for Rawhide.
> Congratulations for getting your first package into Fedora then! :)
> 
> Fabio


No problem and thanks. The process was a little bit bumpy (fedpkg not
detecting me correctly) at the last straight but somehow it went
forward.

Łukasz
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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Łukasz Wojniłowicz]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:09:58 +
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 08:37:12PM +0200, Łukasz Wojniłowicz wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > @decathorpe reviewed my first package positively at
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2271100 
> > and now I'm looking for somebody to sponsor me. My official request
> > for sponsorship is at https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/640.
> > 
> > I would like to package aw-server-rust and eventually other
> > components from ActivityWatch. Fedora is missing several dozens of
> > dependencies for aw-server-rust and I would like to follow up on
> > them as well.
> > 
> > If that's of any use, I already maintain nvidia-340xx-kmod at
> > RPMFusion and provide ungoogled-chromium at my own COPR.
> > 
> > I look forward to hearing from you soon.  
> 
> Welcome to Fedora.
> 
> Zbyszek

Thanks :)

Łukasz
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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Fabio Valentini]

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:43 PM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:16 PM Łukasz Wojniłowicz
>  wrote:
> >
> > You're welcome. rust-appdirs got in and I believe is waiting to be
> > available in the repositories.
>
> No, it's waiting for *you* to actually import the package. :)
> Just getting the package review ticket approved does nothing on its own.

Sorry, I just saw that you imported and built the package for Rawhide.
Congratulations for getting your first package into Fedora then! :)

Fabio
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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Fabio Valentini]

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:16 PM Łukasz Wojniłowicz
 wrote:
>
> You're welcome. rust-appdirs got in and I believe is waiting to be
> available in the repositories.

No, it's waiting for *you* to actually import the package. :)
Just getting the package review ticket approved does nothing on its own.

> Meanwhile, I try to get another dependencies in at:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276462
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276290

I will try to get to those soon, but I can't promise when I will have
the time to do so.

Fabio
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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Łukasz Wojniłowicz]

Hi Dominik,

On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:31:50 +0200
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski  wrote:

> Hello, Łukasz.
> 
> On Sunday, 21 April 2024 at 20:37, Łukasz Wojniłowicz wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > @decathorpe reviewed my first package positively at
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2271100 
> > and now I'm looking for somebody to sponsor me. My official request
> > for sponsorship is at
> > https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/640.  
> 
> I've sponsored you.

Thanks again :)

> > I would like to package aw-server-rust and eventually other
> > components from ActivityWatch. Fedora is missing several dozens of
> > dependencies for aw-server-rust and I would like to follow up on
> > them as well.  
> 
> Great! Thanks for your contribution.

You're welcome. rust-appdirs got in and I believe is waiting to be
available in the repositories.

Meanwhile, I try to get another dependencies in at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276462
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276290

> > If that's of any use, I already maintain nvidia-340xx-kmod at
> > RPMFusion and provide ungoogled-chromium at my own COPR.  
> 
> That is certainly useful for users of older nVidia GPUs. Thanks!

Me included :)

> > I look forward to hearing from you soon.  
> 
> Welcome to Fedora!

Thank you for welcoming me and for your fast response.

Regards,
Łukasz
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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 08:37:12PM +0200, Łukasz Wojniłowicz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> @decathorpe reviewed my first package positively at
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2271100 
> and now I'm looking for somebody to sponsor me. My official request for
> sponsorship is at https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/640.
> 
> I would like to package aw-server-rust and eventually other components
> from ActivityWatch. Fedora is missing several dozens of dependencies
> for aw-server-rust and I would like to follow up on them as well.
> 
> If that's of any use, I already maintain nvidia-340xx-kmod at RPMFusion
> and provide ungoogled-chromium at my own COPR.
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Welcome to Fedora.

Zbyszek
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Re: Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hello, Łukasz.

On Sunday, 21 April 2024 at 20:37, Łukasz Wojniłowicz wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> @decathorpe reviewed my first package positively at
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2271100 
> and now I'm looking for somebody to sponsor me. My official request for
> sponsorship is at https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/640.

I've sponsored you.

> I would like to package aw-server-rust and eventually other components
> from ActivityWatch. Fedora is missing several dozens of dependencies
> for aw-server-rust and I would like to follow up on them as well.

Great! Thanks for your contribution.

> If that's of any use, I already maintain nvidia-340xx-kmod at RPMFusion
> and provide ungoogled-chromium at my own COPR.

That is certainly useful for users of older nVidia GPUs. Thanks!

> I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Welcome to Fedora!

Regards,
Dominik
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Self Introduction: Łukasz W.

[Łukasz Wojniłowicz]

Hi all,

@decathorpe reviewed my first package positively at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2271100 
and now I'm looking for somebody to sponsor me. My official request for
sponsorship is at https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/640.

I would like to package aw-server-rust and eventually other components
from ActivityWatch. Fedora is missing several dozens of dependencies
for aw-server-rust and I would like to follow up on them as well.

If that's of any use, I already maintain nvidia-340xx-kmod at RPMFusion
and provide ungoogled-chromium at my own COPR.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Cheers,
Łukasz
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Self Introduction: Pratham Patel

[Pratham Patel]

Hello everyone,

I'm Pratham! I have a few SBCs (graciously provided by the RESF to me)
that I have been using and are now "mainline-ready". As the Fedora
project lies upstream to Rocky, it would be amazing to contribute to
the Fedora project to add support for these SBCs. That way, not only
Rocky but other projects like Alma and even some adventurous RHEL
users (after manually compiling, of course) can benefit from this.

 -- Pratham Patel
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Re: Self Introduction: Dominik Wombacher

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 01:45:58PM +0200, Dominik Wombacher wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I met a few people already on Events, during the Job or by contributing
> to Pagure, Uyuni and some other projects. But I didn't properly
> introduced myself on the Fedora devel list, so here we go.
> 
> My nickname for most accounts, including FAS, is wombelix, you can also
> call me Dom. I live in Germany and work as Sr. Partner Solutions
> Architect at AWS. I would describe myself as Open Source Enthusiast and
> Contributor, Dog Person and Passionate Engineer. I'm in IT my whole life
> and on/off contributor to different open source projects since a couple
> of years. Doing hands-on tech and devel stuff is what I enjoy most. Give
> me problems to solve so I can go down the rabbit hole of troubleshooting
> and debugging. Let me put some code and a fix together. That's how to
> make my happy.

Hi Dominik,

welcome to Fedora (now officially ;) )!

Rabbit holes and troubleshooting opportunities is something that don't
lack, so I hope you find joy.

Zbyszek


> I had it on my bucket list for quite a while to do some packaging and
> learn some of the Spec magic. I finally got started and work on my first
> Fedora package.
> I'm looking for a Reviewer and Sponsor:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274150
> 
> My intention is to work on a couple more AWS related packages and to see
> if there are some orphaned packages that are interesting.
> 
> Dom
> 
> 
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Self Introduction: Dominik Wombacher

[Dominik Wombacher]

Hey everyone,

I met a few people already on Events, during the Job or by contributing
to Pagure, Uyuni and some other projects. But I didn't properly
introduced myself on the Fedora devel list, so here we go.

My nickname for most accounts, including FAS, is wombelix, you can also
call me Dom. I live in Germany and work as Sr. Partner Solutions
Architect at AWS. I would describe myself as Open Source Enthusiast and
Contributor, Dog Person and Passionate Engineer. I'm in IT my whole life
and on/off contributor to different open source projects since a couple
of years. Doing hands-on tech and devel stuff is what I enjoy most. Give
me problems to solve so I can go down the rabbit hole of troubleshooting
and debugging. Let me put some code and a fix together. That's how to
make my happy.

I had it on my bucket list for quite a while to do some packaging and
learn some of the Spec magic. I finally got started and work on my first
Fedora package.
I'm looking for a Reviewer and Sponsor:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274150

My intention is to work on a couple more AWS related packages and to see
if there are some orphaned packages that are interesting.

Dom


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Re: Self Introduction: Aditi Mishra

[Dan Horák]

Hello Aditi,

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 22:31:41 +0530
Aditi Mishra  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm very new to open-source world however I'm willing and passionate 
> candiate to work with you all. I had worked in the field of linux 
> scheduler area as an intern. Willing to learn fedora packing and wants 
> to contribute my work in future journey of fedora.
> 
> Looking forward for your help.

welcome in the community :-) Feel free to reach me in case of any
Fedora related questions.


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Self Introduction: Aditi Mishra

[Aditi Mishra]

Hello everyone,

I'm very new to open-source world however I'm willing and passionate 
candiate to work with you all. I had worked in the field of linux 
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to contribute my work in future journey of fedora.


Looking forward for your help.

Thanks and regards,

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Re: Introduction and Application for Sponsorship

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 03:07:39PM +, seanmott...@posteo.net wrote:
> Hi devel!
> 
> I'm Sean (FAS: seaninspace). I've been working professionally in Linux
> Sysadmin/Engineering positions for over a decade now, and would like to help
> out more :)
> 
> I've spent most of my Fedora time in QA with the installer, specifically the
> XFCE Live ISO. Additionally, I have maintained small/personal packages
> outside of the official repositories in the past, and have previously
> maintained an RPM mirror with a decent amount of traffic. I'm hoping to
> learn more and give back by adopting this package.
> 
> I've submitted a sponsorship ticket here:
> https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/643

Welcome Sean!

Feel free to ask here or in the #devel:fedoraproject.org matrix channel
if you run into any problems/questions.

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Introduction and Application for Sponsorship

[seanmottles]

Hi devel!

I'm Sean (FAS: seaninspace). I've been working professionally in Linux 
Sysadmin/Engineering positions for over a decade now, and would like to 
help out more :)


I've spent most of my Fedora time in QA with the installer, specifically 
the XFCE Live ISO. Additionally, I have maintained small/personal 
packages outside of the official repositories in the past, and have 
previously maintained an RPM mirror with a decent amount of traffic. I'm 
hoping to learn more and give back by adopting this package.


I've submitted a sponsorship ticket here: 
https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/643


Thanks for your time and work!

Sean
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Re: Self Introduction: Matthew Kosarek

[Neal Gompa]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:44 PM Matthew Kosarek via devel
 wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> My name is Matthew (Matt) Kosarek and I am a developer on the Mir team at 
> Canonical. I am currently developing a tiling window manager based on Mir 
> called miracle-wm (https://github.com/mattkae/miracle-wm). The goal is to 
> have a tiling experience similar to sway/i3, but with a bit more flair by 
> default. I am in the process of packaging the project for Fedora at the 
> moment, which is why I am introducing myself here. Here's a link to the 
> review request for miracle-wm: 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2272744. Feel free to 
> check out the project and file bugs/feedback if you have any! I am aiming to 
> have release 0.2.0 later this month 
>
> Nice to meet you all,
>

Welcome to Fedora, Matt! I've picked up your package to review. I hope
you have a great time here. :)


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Re: Self Introduction: Matthew Kosarek

[Steve Cossette]

Hello Matthew, and welcome to Fedora!

You'll find alot of good people in here eager to help you. Feel free to
also drop in on matrix for a more real-time conversation!

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:44 PM Matthew Kosarek via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> My name is Matthew (Matt) Kosarek and I am a developer on the Mir team at
> Canonical. I am currently developing a tiling window manager based on
> *Mir* called *miracle-wm* (https://github.com/mattkae/miracle-wm). The
> goal is to have a tiling experience similar to *sway*/*i3*, but with a
> bit more flair by default. I am in the process of packaging the project for
> Fedora at the moment, which is why I am introducing myself here. Here's a
> link to the review request for *miracle-wm*:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2272744. Feel free
> to check out the project and file bugs/feedback if you have any! I am
> aiming to have release 0.2.0 later this month 
>
> Nice to meet you all,
>
> Matt
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Self Introduction: Matthew Kosarek

[Matthew Kosarek via devel]

Hello all,

My name is Matthew (Matt) Kosarek and I am a developer on the Mir team 
at Canonical. I am currently developing a tiling window manager based on 
/Mir/ called *miracle-wm* (https://github.com/mattkae/miracle-wm). The 
goal is to have a tiling experience similar to /sway///i3/, but with a 
bit more flair by default. I am in the process of packaging the project 
for Fedora at the moment, which is why I am introducing myself here. 
Here's a link to the review request for /miracle-wm/: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2272744. Feel free 
to check out the project and file bugs/feedback if you have any! I am 
aiming to have release 0.2.0 later this month 


Nice to meet you all,

Matt
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Re: Introduction and package submission question

[None via devel]

Thank you for the info. Unfortunately I haven't learned c yet so I'd be relying 
pretty heavily on upstream to patch issues after being reported. I can't tell 
if it's been abandoned because the Github repo hasn't been touched in ~6 
months, but I pinged the developer for a status update. Should be the last 
thing that needs to get sorted before I can be confident in submitting the 
package.

And yes I am aware that pretty much all software has bugs, my question was 
mainly about if severe usability bugs are problematic in this situation, I 
believe it was issue #12 which prevented(and still prevents) Tails from using 
kloak, so I wasn't sure if it would be enough to bar it from Fedora's repos. I 
hope that clears my question up a bit, nonetheless you still answered my 
question just fine, so thank you again.


Mar 24, 2024, 08:17 by msu...@redhat.com:

> Dne 24. 03. 24 v 12:32 dop. None via devel napsal(a):
>
>> Hello everyone! My name is Jonathon Hyde, and I want to become a packager 
>> for Fedora. I'm excited to contribute back something to a project that I 
>> have been using for so long. I haven't made my first package submission yet, 
>> but I wanted kloak to be among the first packages I submit. I had a question 
>> first though, what is the tolerance for buggy/beta software in Fedora? The 
>> project has a couple of notable open issues on Github, mainly 
>> https://github.com/vmonaco/kloak/issues/12 and 
>> https://github.com/vmonaco/kloak/issues/72. I have already successfully 
>> built with mock and weeded out the issues that showed up in rpmlint, I'm 
>> just not sure what state upstream needs to be in before a package submission 
>> can be accepted in Fedora. I had quite a few submissions I wanted to make 
>> and maintain, so a generalized answer/explanation is preferred, because I 
>> can't find any documentation to answer this particular question.
>>
>> I look forward to learning and contributing back what little I can offer to 
>> the Fedora community.
>>
> Closest to your question is:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Package_maintainer_responsibilities/#_manage_security_issues
>
> You should work on security bugs in timely manner. And you should co-operate 
> with upstream on solving bugs. Somehow. In very elemental meaning that means 
> you forward the bug to upstream.
>
> And BTW every project has bugs. If therewa condition to include only packages 
> without bug then Fedora would have no package at all. :)
>
> Feel free to submit your package for Package Review.
>
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Re: Introduction and package submission question

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 24. 03. 24 v 12:32 dop. None via devel napsal(a):
Hello everyone! My name is Jonathon Hyde, and I want to become a packager for Fedora. I'm excited to contribute back 
something to a project that I have been using for so long. I haven't made my first package submission yet, but I 
wanted kloak to be among the first packages I submit. I had a question first though, what is the tolerance for 
buggy/beta software in Fedora? The project has a couple of notable open issues on Github, mainly 
https://github.com/vmonaco/kloak/issues/12 and https://github.com/vmonaco/kloak/issues/72. I have already successfully 
built with mock and weeded out the issues that showed up in rpmlint, I'm just not sure what state upstream needs to be 
in before a package submission can be accepted in Fedora. I had quite a few submissions I wanted to make and maintain, 
so a generalized answer/explanation is preferred, because I can't find any documentation to answer this particular 
question.


I look forward to learning and contributing back what little I can offer to the 
Fedora community.


Closest to your question is:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Package_maintainer_responsibilities/#_manage_security_issues

You should work on security bugs in timely manner. And you should co-operate with upstream on solving bugs. Somehow. In 
very elemental meaning that means you forward the bug to upstream.


And BTW every project has bugs. If therewa condition to include only packages without bug then Fedora would have no 
package at all. :)


Feel free to submit your package for Package Review.

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Introduction and package submission question

[None via devel]

Hello everyone! My name is Jonathon Hyde, and I want to become a packager for 
Fedora. I'm excited to contribute back something to a project that I have been 
using for so long. I haven't made my first package submission yet, but I wanted 
kloak to be among the first packages I submit. I had a question first though, 
what is the tolerance for buggy/beta software in Fedora? The project has a 
couple of notable open issues on Github, mainly 
https://github.com/vmonaco/kloak/issues/12 and 
https://github.com/vmonaco/kloak/issues/72. I have already successfully built 
with mock and weeded out the issues that showed up in rpmlint, I'm just not 
sure what state upstream needs to be in before a package submission can be 
accepted in Fedora. I had quite a few submissions I wanted to make and 
maintain, so a generalized answer/explanation is preferred, because I can't 
find any documentation to answer this particular question.

I look forward to learning and contributing back what little I can offer to the 
Fedora community.
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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Davide Cavalca]

On 2024-03-07 04:39, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

Hi,

The effort to make package builds in Fedora reproducible has picked up
steam again.


I gave a talk at SCALE 21x last week covering this work, the current 
state and what's coming down the pipe. You can find the recording at 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c4gfXVPAbU if you're interested, and a 
copy of the slides at 
https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/21x/presentations/making-fedora-linux-more-reproducible


Cheers
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Re: Self Introduction: Adam McCartney

[Joe Doss]

On 3/16/24 5:03 AM, Adam McCartney wrote:

Dear Fedora Developers,

Thanks for your work in developing and maintaining such a useful Linux
distribution!

I'm relatively new to open source development and am trying to make my 
first

contributions. Basically, I'm hoping to package some dependencies
for the `nix and `guix package managers in fedora.

To give a bit of backstory, in the past both package managers have 
depended on
nscd[1], which has been recently removed from glibc. Since it had been 
marked for
deprecation in glibc, distributions have been removing their reliance on 
it's

functionality [2].

There has been some discussion on the guix mailing list about possible
replacements for nscd. A popular suggestion is to transition to nsncd,
a program written in rust that provides similar functionality. Following 
this
dicussion I volunteered to package nsncd for fedora. I've started the 
process by

packaging some upstream dependencies.

This is my first attempt at contributing packages to fedora (or any 
distro for
that matter!). Fabio Valentini has been very helpful in providing some 
guidance

and reviewing my initial bug report[3].

I'm a little bit unsure of the next steps are for having the package 
accepted.

I would welcome any further advice or guidance that you could provide.

With kind regards,
Adam


Welcome Adam! We are glad you are here. I look forward to seeing your 
contributions to Fedora. :)


Joe



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Self Introduction: Adam McCartney

[Adam McCartney]

Dear Fedora Developers,

Thanks for your work in developing and maintaining such a useful Linux
distribution!

I'm relatively new to open source development and am trying to make my first
contributions. Basically, I'm hoping to package some dependencies
for the `nix and `guix package managers in fedora.

To give a bit of backstory, in the past both package managers have depended on
nscd[1], which has been recently removed from glibc. Since it had been marked 
for
deprecation in glibc, distributions have been removing their reliance on it's
functionality [2].

There has been some discussion on the guix mailing list about possible
replacements for nscd. A popular suggestion is to transition to nsncd,
a program written in rust that provides similar functionality. Following this
dicussion I volunteered to package nsncd for fedora. I've started the process by
packaging some upstream dependencies.

This is my first attempt at contributing packages to fedora (or any distro for
that matter!). Fabio Valentini has been very helpful in providing some guidance
and reviewing my initial bug report[3].

I'm a little bit unsure of the next steps are for having the package accepted.
I would welcome any further advice or guidance that you could provide.

With kind regards,
Adam


[1] 
https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Application-Setup.html#Name-Service-Switch
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveNSCD
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 04:43:37PM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote:
> V Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 05:04:01PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
> napsal(a):
> > And perl-Module-Build has:
> > ├── ./usr/libexec/perl-Module-Build/_build/magicnum
> > │ @@ -1 +1 @@
> > │ -1016
> > │ +697476
> > 
> > It's generated via
> >   $self->_write_data('magicnum', $self->magic_number(int rand 1_000_000));
> > It seems strange to fix the seed for tests like this…
> > 
> That file was a byproduct of perl-Module-Build's build script. I removed it
> the from a binary package and perl-Module-Build-0.42.34-6.fc41 should be
> reproducible now.

It is indeed. Thanks!

Zbyszek
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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Petr Pisar]

V Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 05:04:01PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):
> And perl-Module-Build has:
> ├── ./usr/libexec/perl-Module-Build/_build/magicnum
> │ @@ -1 +1 @@
> │ -1016
> │ +697476
> 
> It's generated via
>   $self->_write_data('magicnum', $self->magic_number(int rand 1_000_000));
> It seems strange to fix the seed for tests like this…
> 
That file was a byproduct of perl-Module-Build's build script. I removed it
the from a binary package and perl-Module-Build-0.42.34-6.fc41 should be
reproducible now.

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 12:29:49PM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote:
> V Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 04:54:04PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
> napsal(a):
> > On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 09:07:30AM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > > (2) Both perl-Alien-pkgconf NEVRAs reports a differing
> > > /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
> > > content. That content looks likes this:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > {"libs":"-lpkgconf","version":"2.1.0","install_type":"system","cflags":"-I/usr/include/pkgconf","dll":"/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"}
> > > 
> > > That means you had to perform rebuilds of the same NEVRA with different
> > > libpkgconf-devel packages in the build roots. That looks like a bug in 
> > > your
> > > mini rebuild scheduler.
> > 
> > Diffoscope says:
> > 
> > ├── ./usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
> > │ ├── Pretty-printed
> > │ │┄ Ordering differences only
> > │ │ @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
> > │ │  {
> > │ │  "libs": "-lpkgconf",
> > │ │ +"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0",
> > │ │  "version": "2.1.0",
> > │ │ -"install_type": "system",
> > │ │  "cflags": "-I/usr/include/pkgconf",
> > │ │ -"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"
> > │ │ +"install_type": "system"
> > │ │  }
> > 
> > It would be great to sort the dictionary to avoid this randomness.
> > 
> You are right. I completely forgot the ordering. I fixed it in
> perl-Alien-pkgconf-0.19-10.fc41.

Ah, cool, thanks! I can confirm that with
perl-Alien-pkgconf-0.19-10.fc41, rpmdiff reports no differences.

> > > (4) dnf5-5.1.13-1.fc41.src reports changes in Requires (e.g. "removed
> > > REQUIRES createrepo_c"). That again looks like you built the same NEVRA in
> > > different build roots (for some reason "%bcond_without tests" flipped).
> > 
> > Yes, the build root is different. I install the package set that was
> > used for the main package build and just call mock with that and it
> > does both srpm and the binary rpms there. But koji does the srpm build
> > in a separate buildroot that is smaller.
> > 
> Using SRPMs from a different archicture won't work as you find out. You need
> to unpack the SRPM and do "dnf builddep THE_UNPACKED_SPEC_FILE". But then you
> will have a different build root content comparing to the Koji build.
> 
> So I guess an architecture of the builder needs to be handled as a piece of
> the reproducibility environment (i.e. reproducing a noarch package built on
> s390x on s390x, not on x86_64), or you can assume that noarch builds should
> not differ among builder archictures and then ignore the build root content
> and only focus on the resulting binary package.

Yes, but that'd be a bummer. If we were strict about this, the number
of packages that can be rebuilt would go down by a large percentage.
So I think we need to take some hybrid approach, where we try to redo
the srpm build on a different architecture.

Zbyszek


P.S. I pasted this in the Matrix channel already, but here is a summary
of the rebuild:

 SUMMARY 
total builds: 1810
reproducible: 989 (55%)
only src metadata: 76  (4%)
irreproducible: 745 (41%)

by rpm:
  total rpms: 12259
  src, non-src: 1810 (15%), 10449 (85%)
  reproducible: 8879 (72%)
  only src metadata: 279  (2%)
  irreproducible: 3101 (25%)

  rpms with irreproducibility:
src_metadata: 288
static_library: 529
jar_library: 718
mingw_binary: 92
debuginfo_metadata: 205
debuginfo_hash: 775
javadoc_html: 338
doc_pdf: 7
rpm_metadata: 24
payload_paths: 32
payload_mods: 1286
unknown: 13

If we ignore the bogus metadata on srpms, we're 59% reproducible by
package, and 75% reproducible counting individual rpms. The next order
of business is to handle those static libraries and jars, which should
make a sizeable dent in the remaining list. I started working on some
tooling for this on the weekend.

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Petr Pisar]

V Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 04:54:04PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 09:07:30AM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > (2) Both perl-Alien-pkgconf NEVRAs reports a differing
> > /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
> > content. That content looks likes this:
> > 
> > 
> > {"libs":"-lpkgconf","version":"2.1.0","install_type":"system","cflags":"-I/usr/include/pkgconf","dll":"/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"}
> > 
> > That means you had to perform rebuilds of the same NEVRA with different
> > libpkgconf-devel packages in the build roots. That looks like a bug in your
> > mini rebuild scheduler.
> 
> Diffoscope says:
> 
> ├── ./usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
> │ ├── Pretty-printed
> │ │┄ Ordering differences only
> │ │ @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
> │ │  {
> │ │  "libs": "-lpkgconf",
> │ │ +"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0",
> │ │  "version": "2.1.0",
> │ │ -"install_type": "system",
> │ │  "cflags": "-I/usr/include/pkgconf",
> │ │ -"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"
> │ │ +"install_type": "system"
> │ │  }
> 
> It would be great to sort the dictionary to avoid this randomness.
> 
You are right. I completely forgot the ordering. I fixed it in
perl-Alien-pkgconf-0.19-10.fc41.

> > (3) Some packages listed in builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.txt are missing 
> > from
> > builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.results.txt. E.g.
> > perl-CPAN-Plugin-Sysdeps-0.73-1.fc41 is listed as COMPLETE, yet results are
> > missing.
> 
> Yes. Some packages failed to build, and then I finished the build
> early because there were already enough interesting results.
> 
> (The few failures I looked at were caused by differences in BR between
> architectures. This is currently a corner case that I'm not sure how
> to deal with. Most of the time, using a srpm from a different
> architecture works fine, but in some cases the set of installed
> packages would differ, and then I can't figure out which version of
> the rpm for the local architecture would have been used and buildroot
> creation fails. I would be happy to describe the problem in more
> detail. It's also possible that other packages FTBFS, I didn't look
> into this and I didn't save the logs.)
>  
> > (4) dnf5-5.1.13-1.fc41.src reports changes in Requires (e.g. "removed
> > REQUIRES createrepo_c"). That again looks like you built the same NEVRA in
> > different build roots (for some reason "%bcond_without tests" flipped).
> 
> Yes, the build root is different. I install the package set that was
> used for the main package build and just call mock with that and it
> does both srpm and the binary rpms there. But koji does the srpm build
> in a separate buildroot that is smaller.
> 
Using SRPMs from a different archicture won't work as you find out. You need
to unpack the SRPM and do "dnf builddep THE_UNPACKED_SPEC_FILE". But then you
will have a different build root content comparing to the Koji build.

So I guess an architecture of the builder needs to be handled as a piece of
the reproducibility environment (i.e. reproducing a noarch package built on
s390x on s390x, not on x86_64), or you can assume that noarch builds should
not differ among builder archictures and then ignore the build root content
and only focus on the resulting binary package.

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 04:54:04PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 09:07:30AM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > (2) Both perl-Alien-pkgconf NEVRAs reports a differing
> > /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
> > content. That content looks likes this:
> > 
> > 
> > {"libs":"-lpkgconf","version":"2.1.0","install_type":"system","cflags":"-I/usr/include/pkgconf","dll":"/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"}
> > 
> > That means you had to perform rebuilds of the same NEVRA with different
> > libpkgconf-devel packages in the build roots. That looks like a bug in your
> > mini rebuild scheduler.
> 
> Diffoscope says:
> 
> ├── ./usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
> │ ├── Pretty-printed
> │ │┄ Ordering differences only
> │ │ @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
> │ │  {
> │ │  "libs": "-lpkgconf",
> │ │ +"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0",
> │ │  "version": "2.1.0",
> │ │ -"install_type": "system",
> │ │  "cflags": "-I/usr/include/pkgconf",
> │ │ -"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"
> │ │ +"install_type": "system"
> │ │  }
> 
> It would be great to sort the dictionary to avoid this randomness.

And perl-Module-Build has:
├── ./usr/libexec/perl-Module-Build/_build/magicnum
│ @@ -1 +1 @@
│ -1016
│ +697476

It's generated via
  $self->_write_data('magicnum', $self->magic_number(int rand 1_000_000));
It seems strange to fix the seed for tests like this…

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 09:07:30AM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote:
> V Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 12:39:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
> napsal(a):
> > The effort to make package builds in Fedora reproducible has picked up 
> > steam again.
> > We now have a new website: 
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/reproducible-builds
> > and an issue tracker: https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project
> > and a matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#reproducible-builds:fedora.im
> > 
> > We've done a mini rebuild using [1] for the package list [2] and results 
> > are at [3].
> > (The result is a json dump of rpmdiff output by package. Generally, "" means
> > the rebuild was identical except for variable metadata, and non-empty
> > output else means that the rebuild was different.)
> > 
> > [1] https://github.com/keszybz/fedora-repro-build
> > [2] https://fedorapeople.org/~zbyszek/builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.txt
> > [3] 
> > https://fedorapeople.org/~zbyszek/builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.results.txt
> > 
> Is this mini rebuild a one-shot thing, or are are you going to rebuild the
> packages repeatedly or use the results for something significant? I ask
> because I spotted some discrepancies in those text files:

Both ;) I'm working on the tooling to do the rebuilds, and the code is
still a bit rough, but also I'm still figuring out the design. Once
that done, we hope to hook this up to rebuilderd to get a continous
rebuild with a nice dashboard (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Rebuilderd).
For now, the results are being used to figure out a list of things to fix.

> (1) Some packages are listed twice, with different NEVRAs. E.g.
> perl-Alien-pkgconf or perl-RDF-RDFa-Generator.

This is because they were built multiple times in koji.

> (2) Both perl-Alien-pkgconf NEVRAs reports a differing
> /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
> content. That content looks likes this:
> 
> 
> {"libs":"-lpkgconf","version":"2.1.0","install_type":"system","cflags":"-I/usr/include/pkgconf","dll":"/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"}
> 
> That means you had to perform rebuilds of the same NEVRA with different
> libpkgconf-devel packages in the build roots. That looks like a bug in your
> mini rebuild scheduler.

Diffoscope says:

├── ./usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
│ ├── Pretty-printed
│ │┄ Ordering differences only
│ │ @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
│ │  {
│ │  "libs": "-lpkgconf",
│ │ +"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0",
│ │  "version": "2.1.0",
│ │ -"install_type": "system",
│ │  "cflags": "-I/usr/include/pkgconf",
│ │ -"dll": "/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"
│ │ +"install_type": "system"
│ │  }

It would be great to sort the dictionary to avoid this randomness.

> (3) Some packages listed in builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.txt are missing from
> builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.results.txt. E.g.
> perl-CPAN-Plugin-Sysdeps-0.73-1.fc41 is listed as COMPLETE, yet results are
> missing.

Yes. Some packages failed to build, and then I finished the build
early because there were already enough interesting results.

(The few failures I looked at were caused by differences in BR between
architectures. This is currently a corner case that I'm not sure how
to deal with. Most of the time, using a srpm from a different
architecture works fine, but in some cases the set of installed
packages would differ, and then I can't figure out which version of
the rpm for the local architecture would have been used and buildroot
creation fails. I would be happy to describe the problem in more
detail. It's also possible that other packages FTBFS, I didn't look
into this and I didn't save the logs.)
 
> (4) dnf5-5.1.13-1.fc41.src reports changes in Requires (e.g. "removed
> REQUIRES createrepo_c"). That again looks like you built the same NEVRA in
> different build roots (for some reason "%bcond_without tests" flipped).

Yes, the build root is different. I install the package set that was
used for the main package build and just call mock with that and it
does both srpm and the binary rpms there. But koji does the srpm build
in a separate buildroot that is smaller.

It would be fairly easy to get the buildroot listing for the srpm and
build the srpm separately. This wouldn't actually doesn't solve the
problem fully, because koji will use a random build architecture, so
we may potentially hit the problem that was described above for noarch
builds.

For now, I'm taking the pragmatic approach of ignoring changes in
PROVIDES/REQUIRES for the srpm. We know that those are not important.
OTOH, for example changes in the source files are unexpected.
I filed https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stratisd/pull-request/6
for stratisd to stop rewriting the source tarballs (it was done
irreproducibly, but I think it's better to not do this at all).

> All that means you might hunting ghosts instead of real bugs.

The rebuild process is surprisingly reliable. Per the discussion
above, we 

Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Petr Pisar]

V Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 12:39:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):
> The effort to make package builds in Fedora reproducible has picked up steam 
> again.
> We now have a new website: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/reproducible-builds
> and an issue tracker: https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project
> and a matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#reproducible-builds:fedora.im
> 
> We've done a mini rebuild using [1] for the package list [2] and results are 
> at [3].
> (The result is a json dump of rpmdiff output by package. Generally, "" means
> the rebuild was identical except for variable metadata, and non-empty
> output else means that the rebuild was different.)
> 
> [1] https://github.com/keszybz/fedora-repro-build
> [2] https://fedorapeople.org/~zbyszek/builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.txt
> [3] https://fedorapeople.org/~zbyszek/builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.results.txt
> 
Is this mini rebuild a one-shot thing, or are are you going to rebuild the
packages repeatedly or use the results for something significant? I ask
because I spotted some discrepancies in those text files:

(1) Some packages are listed twice, with different NEVRAs. E.g.
perl-Alien-pkgconf or perl-RDF-RDFa-Generator.

(2) Both perl-Alien-pkgconf NEVRAs reports a differing
/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/auto/share/dist/Alien-pkgconf/status.json
content. That content looks likes this:


{"libs":"-lpkgconf","version":"2.1.0","install_type":"system","cflags":"-I/usr/include/pkgconf","dll":"/lib64/libpkgconf.so.4.0.0"}

That means you had to perform rebuilds of the same NEVRA with different
libpkgconf-devel packages in the build roots. That looks like a bug in your
mini rebuild scheduler.

(3) Some packages listed in builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.txt are missing from
builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.results.txt. E.g.
perl-CPAN-Plugin-Sysdeps-0.73-1.fc41 is listed as COMPLETE, yet results are
missing.

(4) dnf5-5.1.13-1.fc41.src reports changes in Requires (e.g. "removed
REQUIRES createrepo_c"). That again looks like you built the same NEVRA in
different build roots (for some reason "%bcond_without tests" flipped).

All that means you might hunting ghosts instead of real bugs.

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Stephen Smoogen]

On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 18:38, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 10:01:08PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 12:39:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
>
>


> Nevertheless, for me, reproducibility is interesting because it aids
> debugability, and "threats" are not an immediate concern. Essentially,
> when the
> builds are stable, any unexpected change in the build outputs is much
> easier to
> diagnose. We have already found and submitted a bunch of obvious fixes that
> would not have been found otherwise. Also, when builds are stable, when
> working
> on the tools, it is easy to do a rebuild with the patched tools and
> observe the
> diff. If the build is "unstable", i.e. there are various other unrelated
> changes, interesting differences often drown in noise.
>
>
Now this is the part which is the real important part which gets overlooked
a lot.
As much as some people somehow make it out that reproducibility will make
things secure.. it will only do so against a threat which isn't as existent
as people injecting bad source code. [Supply chain attacks are already just
including bad source code which will build reproducible but still be bad.
It is much cheaper to make mostly useful but compromised code into pypi,
cpan, some cargo place etc and getting other people to need to include it
in a distro or just straight to a developer than it is to break into
Fedora/Debian/etc and compromise a gcc ]

The real fix is in Quality and catching things which silently make builds
bad. A CPU problem, a memory problem, a builder kernel issue, etc are
bigger problems and more likely to cause hard to fix bugs because they
aren't bugs in the code. Of course this means that builds need to be built
twice inside a build system to make sure that both builds match.. otherwise
you can end up where someone rebuilding starts reporting problems with our
build system but its because they used overclocked ram or cpu :)



> E.g. today I ended up creating a pull request for intltool package [1],
> backporting a patch to fix a race in cache creation which was corrupting
> translations in files. The patch is from 2015, but seemingly nobody
> noticed the
> issue in Fedora so far.
>
> More examples are [2,3], one of the many examples of noarch packages using
> arch-dependent macros, e.g. %_libdir, leading to packages that are
> "noarch",
> but actually depend on the build architecture, and misbehave when installed
> on a system with a different architecture than the build machine.
>
> [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/intltool/pull-request/2
> [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xbyak/pull-request/5
> [3] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-virt-firmware/pull-request/3
>
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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 10:01:08PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 12:39:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The effort to make package builds in Fedora reproducible has picked
> > up steam again.  We now have a new website:
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/reproducible-builds
> 
> I read this page but it doesn't cover an important point (for me).
> What's the actual threat model you have in mind?

The threat model is the build machine being "compromised" and modifying the
build artifacts somehow. In case of a software attack, this could mean for
example a rogue version of the compiler injecting additional code into the
binaries. In general, any kind of "supply chain attack". But a non-malicious
scenario is also possible, with the hardware being flaky or overheated or having
firmware problems that result in some modification to the output binaries.

I imagine that large organizations may invest in setting up a "shadow rebuild"
instance that has the full pipeline from dist-git to binary rpms and does fully
independent builds of packages. Reproducibility allows independent verification
that the dist-git sources actually correspond to the binaries that are
delivered. With such checks, any kind of supply chain attack would be very hard
to do undetected. The build infrastracture in Fedora is obviously well
protected, so such an attack would be very hard to pull off, but it also is
exteremely attractive because of how effective and stealthy it would be. So by
making builds reproducible and allowing 3rd parties to do rebuilds, we allow
more trust to be established for our packages.

Nevertheless, for me, reproducibility is interesting because it aids
debugability, and "threats" are not an immediate concern. Essentially, when the
builds are stable, any unexpected change in the build outputs is much easier to
diagnose. We have already found and submitted a bunch of obvious fixes that
would not have been found otherwise. Also, when builds are stable, when working
on the tools, it is easy to do a rebuild with the patched tools and observe the
diff. If the build is "unstable", i.e. there are various other unrelated
changes, interesting differences often drown in noise.

E.g. today I ended up creating a pull request for intltool package [1],
backporting a patch to fix a race in cache creation which was corrupting
translations in files. The patch is from 2015, but seemingly nobody noticed the
issue in Fedora so far.

More examples are [2,3], one of the many examples of noarch packages using
arch-dependent macros, e.g. %_libdir, leading to packages that are "noarch",
but actually depend on the build architecture, and misbehave when installed
on a system with a different architecture than the build machine.

[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/intltool/pull-request/2
[2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xbyak/pull-request/5
[3] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-virt-firmware/pull-request/3

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Richard W.M. Jones]

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 12:39:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The effort to make package builds in Fedora reproducible has picked
> up steam again.  We now have a new website:
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/reproducible-builds

I read this page but it doesn't cover an important point (for me).
What's the actual threat model you have in mind?

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Re: reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 12:39:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Second, for the usual enticement: join and be merry.

I forgot to add: if you want me to rebuild your package and report the
result, please send a name-version-release string.

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reprodubible builds (re)introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

Hi,

The effort to make package builds in Fedora reproducible has picked up steam 
again.
We now have a new website: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/reproducible-builds
and an issue tracker: https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project
and a matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#reproducible-builds:fedora.im

We've done a mini rebuild using [1] for the package list [2] and results are at 
[3].
(The result is a json dump of rpmdiff output by package. Generally, "" means
the rebuild was identical except for variable metadata, and non-empty
output else means that the rebuild was different.)

[1] https://github.com/keszybz/fedora-repro-build
[2] https://fedorapeople.org/~zbyszek/builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.txt
[3] https://fedorapeople.org/~zbyszek/builds-2024-02-fc41-filtered.results.txt

I'm writing this mail for two purposes. First, as a heads-up:
various patches and RFEs have been filed to fix issues as they are detected.
Second, for the usual enticement: join and be merry.

The plan for the immediate future is to fix various issues, both those
that affect a single package and also the ones that affect a swath of packages.
Some of the remaining second type:

https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project/issue/7
  — static archives do not respect $SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH, embed UID and GID 
https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project/issue/10
  — Java jar files embed build timestamps
https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project/issue/12
  — Python pyc file serialization is architecture-specific
https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project/issue/14
  — noarch packages installing into %{_libdir}
https://pagure.io/fedora-reproducible-builds/project/issue/15
  — golang debuginfo pakages have files with .gdb_index section of varying size 

If you have ideas how to tackle some of those issues, help would be very 
welcome.
Please use the matrix room for coordination.

Currently the percentage of reproducibility is not very high.
Once we fix the issues that affect swaths of packages and we're down
to issues that only affect one or a very small number of packages, I hope
we can make reproducibility an official effort in Fedora. But that's still
some way ahead.

Zbyszek
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Re: Introduction / unorphaning package request

[Michel Lind]

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 11:32:44AM -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
> Welcome!
> 
> Since name collisions are fun, I want to clarify for everyone else that
> we are not the same person. I'm jistone, he's jostone, and I'm sure this
> won't confuse anyone... :)
> 
You should sponsor jostone for extra confusion :)

> On 2/23/24 6:23 AM, Joshua Stone wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I've been a Linux user since my friends showed me Ubuntu 9.04! That was
> > a lifesaver when I needed an OS with a functional office suite after my
> > MS Office 2007 license expired and Windows Vista was having stability
> > issues. After multi-booting Windows and Linux for several years, I had
> > decided that I no longer boot Windows enough to warrant the disk space,
> > so I've been running Linux exclusively for over a decade.
> > 
> > When I was first using Linux, I would distro hop between Ubuntu, Linux
> > Mint, and Fedora, finally before settling on Fedora right around the
> > time it switched to Wayland by default.
> > 
> > I think Fedora has been very beneficial for me because it's given me
> > enough of a background on RPM-based distros to have a career where I can
> > use Linux professionally. My current employment is at Red Hat so I spend
> > a lot of time packaging software.
> > 
> > I also spend time maintaining several apps on Flathub, and I'd like to
> > expand maintenance efforts to Fedora!
> > 
> > Earlier I filed a request for unorphaning a package:
> > 
> > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11963 
> > 
> > It would appear that there are several requirements I must fulfill,
> > especially finding a sponsor. If there's anyone who can help, then I'd
> > really appreciate it! I hope to be more involved with the Fedora community!
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > - Josh
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Re: Introduction / unorphaning package request

[Josh Stone]

Welcome!

Since name collisions are fun, I want to clarify for everyone else that
we are not the same person. I'm jistone, he's jostone, and I'm sure this
won't confuse anyone... :)

On 2/23/24 6:23 AM, Joshua Stone wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I've been a Linux user since my friends showed me Ubuntu 9.04! That was
> a lifesaver when I needed an OS with a functional office suite after my
> MS Office 2007 license expired and Windows Vista was having stability
> issues. After multi-booting Windows and Linux for several years, I had
> decided that I no longer boot Windows enough to warrant the disk space,
> so I've been running Linux exclusively for over a decade.
> 
> When I was first using Linux, I would distro hop between Ubuntu, Linux
> Mint, and Fedora, finally before settling on Fedora right around the
> time it switched to Wayland by default.
> 
> I think Fedora has been very beneficial for me because it's given me
> enough of a background on RPM-based distros to have a career where I can
> use Linux professionally. My current employment is at Red Hat so I spend
> a lot of time packaging software.
> 
> I also spend time maintaining several apps on Flathub, and I'd like to
> expand maintenance efforts to Fedora!
> 
> Earlier I filed a request for unorphaning a package:
> 
> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11963 
> 
> It would appear that there are several requirements I must fulfill,
> especially finding a sponsor. If there's anyone who can help, then I'd
> really appreciate it! I hope to be more involved with the Fedora community!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Josh
> 
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Re: Introduction / unorphaning package request

[Michel Lind]

Hi Josh,


On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 09:23:34AM -0500, Joshua Stone wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I also spend time maintaining several apps on Flathub, and I'd like to
> expand maintenance efforts to Fedora!
> 
Welcome!

> Earlier I filed a request for unorphaning a package:
> 
> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11963
> 
> It would appear that there are several requirements I must fulfill,
> especially finding a sponsor. If there's anyone who can help, then I'd
> really appreciate it! I hope to be more involved with the Fedora community!
>
You might want to join https://matrix.to/#/#golang:fedoraproject.org -
the Golang SIG members are there, and you might get one of them to
sponsor you.

Note that there is a specific template to use for unretiring (not
unorphaning - the package is retired because it was orphaned for too
long), and it would have asked for the Bugzilla issue for the re-review
- the package would have to be reviewed again as if it's a new package.

I can't link to the template now since it seems OpenID is acting up
right now :(

This provides the full instructions for becoming a packager:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/

and this for unretiring

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retirement_Process/#claiming

and these are the packaging guidelines for Golang

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Golang/

HTH,

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Introduction / unorphaning package request

[Joshua Stone]

Hello everyone,

I've been a Linux user since my friends showed me Ubuntu 9.04! That was a
lifesaver when I needed an OS with a functional office suite after my MS
Office 2007 license expired and Windows Vista was having stability issues.
After multi-booting Windows and Linux for several years, I had decided that
I no longer boot Windows enough to warrant the disk space, so I've been
running Linux exclusively for over a decade.

When I was first using Linux, I would distro hop between Ubuntu, Linux
Mint, and Fedora, finally before settling on Fedora right around the time
it switched to Wayland by default.

I think Fedora has been very beneficial for me because it's given me enough
of a background on RPM-based distros to have a career where I can use Linux
professionally. My current employment is at Red Hat so I spend a lot of
time packaging software.

I also spend time maintaining several apps on Flathub, and I'd like to
expand maintenance efforts to Fedora!

Earlier I filed a request for unorphaning a package:

https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11963

It would appear that there are several requirements I must fulfill,
especially finding a sponsor. If there's anyone who can help, then I'd
really appreciate it! I hope to be more involved with the Fedora community!

Thanks!

- Josh
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Re: Introduction

[Patrice Peterson via devel]

Am 20.02.24 um 15:25 schrieb Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski:

Some quick nitpicks for your spec:


I think I've addressed everything [1], thank you very much for taking 
the time! :) I'll keep the default->sysconfig switch, though—it's a 
one-line patch anyway. The change was motivated by an old ticket [2].



If you unretire within a week, you'll be able to claim ownership and
start working on it immediately.

The package has been retired after being orphaned for 6+ weeks, and if
you wait another week, it'll have been retired for 8 weeks, which is the
cut-off time for a new review requirement.


Yeah, that was going to be my next step. I'm afraid I need a few days to 
get my bearings first, though. I'll keep the one-week deadline in mind.


Best,
Patrice

[1] 
https://codeberg.org/runiq/rpms/commit/776f74090f530c5a7457f25683c9b117451daec9

[2] https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/152
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Re: Introduction

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hello, Patrice!

On Monday, 19 February 2024 at 13:55, Patrice Peterson via devel wrote:
> Hello to all and sundry!
> 
> I've been a Fedora user for close to ten years but I've never been involved
> with the project itself, aside from reporting a few bugs here and there.
> Been using Linux for ~20 years, more or less – started out on Ubuntu, moved
> over to Arch, and then Fedora. On Arch, I used to maintain a few AUR
> packages, mostly games. A while ago, I began getting into music production
> on Linux, started building flatpaks and submitting my first one to Flathub
> [1], and I'm currently trying to pull the rtirq package into the current
> decade [2].

Some quick nitpicks for your spec:

1. License must be converted to SPDX (and verified):
https://codeberg.org/runiq/rpms/src/branch/main/rtirq/rtirq.spec#L7

2. You might consider using %autosetup -p1 instead of %setup and a
series of %patch calls:
https://codeberg.org/runiq/rpms/src/branch/main/rtirq/rtirq.spec#L32

3. You don't need to clean the buildroot in %install and you should drop
the whole %clean section:
https://codeberg.org/runiq/rpms/src/branch/main/rtirq/rtirq.spec#L47
https://codeberg.org/runiq/rpms/src/branch/main/rtirq/rtirq.spec#L70

4. systemd macros are in a separate package (systemd-rpm-macros), so
there's no need to BR: systemd:
https://codeberg.org/runiq/rpms/src/branch/main/rtirq/rtirq.spec#L23

5. I think there's nothing wrong with using /etc/default instead of
/etc/sysconfig. Grub and shadow-utils are using that location, so
there's a precedent and you could save some patching.

6. The upstream URL returns 404 not found (http://www.rncbc.org/jack/)

7. There's a tarball signature that you could validate:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#_source_file_verification

If you unretire within a week, you'll be able to claim ownership and
start working on it immediately.

The package has been retired after being orphaned for 6+ weeks, and if
you wait another week, it'll have been retired for 8 weeks, which is the
cut-off time for a new review requirement.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_orphan_and_retired_packages/#unorphaning_and_unretiring_packages

> Thanks for having me :)

You are most welcome!

Regards,
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Introduction

[Patrice Peterson via devel]

Hello to all and sundry!

I've been a Fedora user for close to ten years but I've never been 
involved with the project itself, aside from reporting a few bugs here 
and there. Been using Linux for ~20 years, more or less – started out on 
Ubuntu, moved over to Arch, and then Fedora. On Arch, I used to maintain 
a few AUR packages, mostly games. A while ago, I began getting into 
music production on Linux, started building flatpaks and submitting my 
first one to Flathub [1], and I'm currently trying to pull the rtirq 
package into the current decade [2].


Thanks for having me :)

Best,
Patrice

[1] 
https://flathub.org/apps/org.freedesktop.LinuxAudio.Plugins.NeuralAmpModeler

[2] https://codeberg.org/runiq/rpms/src/branch/main/rtirq
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Re: Introduction

[Christiano Anderson]

Welcome :-)

On 17/02/2024 13:38, Loren M. Lang wrote:

Hello all,

I am looking to get more involved in the Fedora Project and contributing back 
into it. I have been using Linux since Red Hat Linux 5.1 was released in 1998. 
Since then, I have been able to provide a variety of contributions back to 
various projects including Debian, Ubuntu, and even FreeBSD. I tend to work 
mostly in either C, Python, or Rust but can work in a variety of languages. 
Over the last few years, Fedora has become one of my main drivers for 
development and I'd like to give back and help maintain some packages in need 
of loving. I am looking forward to joining the community and offering my 
assistance.

Sincerely,
Loren M. Lang
https://github.com/penguin359/

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Re: Introduction

[Joe Doss]

On 2/17/24 6:38 AM, Loren M. Lang wrote:

Hello all,

I am looking to get more involved in the Fedora Project and contributing back 
into it. I have been using Linux since Red Hat Linux 5.1 was released in 1998. 
Since then, I have been able to provide a variety of contributions back to 
various projects including Debian, Ubuntu, and even FreeBSD. I tend to work 
mostly in either C, Python, or Rust but can work in a variety of languages. 
Over the last few years, Fedora has become one of my main drivers for 
development and I'd like to give back and help maintain some packages in need 
of loving. I am looking forward to joining the community and offering my 
assistance.


Welcome Loren! We are all glad that you are here. :)

Joe



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Introduction

[Loren M. Lang]

Hello all,

I am looking to get more involved in the Fedora Project and contributing back 
into it. I have been using Linux since Red Hat Linux 5.1 was released in 1998. 
Since then, I have been able to provide a variety of contributions back to 
various projects including Debian, Ubuntu, and even FreeBSD. I tend to work 
mostly in either C, Python, or Rust but can work in a variety of languages. 
Over the last few years, Fedora has become one of my main drivers for 
development and I'd like to give back and help maintain some packages in need 
of loving. I am looking forward to joining the community and offering my 
assistance.

Sincerely,
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Re: Introduction

[Luis Correia]

Oh, I see!

Well, let me get the hang of RPM Fusion right now, then I'll try to figure
out how that's done :)

I'm just trying to help the mixxx project having it working on the Fedora
ecosystem as the former packager has resigned.

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 14:46, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
domi...@greysector.net> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 07 February 2024 at 15:31, Luis Correia wrote:
> > The package already exists, under RPM Fusion free (most updated is a beta
> > version)
> >
> > I'll at least keep it up to date with new releases
>
> We know it exists. Neal is saying you should move it from RPM Fusion to
> Fedora.
>
> As far as I know, it doesn't depend on anything not already in Fedora.
>
> Regards,
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Re: Introduction

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

On Wednesday, 07 February 2024 at 15:31, Luis Correia wrote:
> The package already exists, under RPM Fusion free (most updated is a beta
> version)
> 
> I'll at least keep it up to date with new releases

We know it exists. Neal is saying you should move it from RPM Fusion to
Fedora.

As far as I know, it doesn't depend on anything not already in Fedora.

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Re: Introduction

[Luis Correia]

The package already exists, under RPM Fusion free (most updated is a beta
version)

I'll at least keep it up to date with new releases

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 14:25, Neal Gompa  wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 6:08 PM Luis Correia 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink
> Wireless driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time.
> >
> > I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over
> at rpmfusion.
> >
> > Hope to be useful with this new venture.
> >
>
> Welcome! Have you considered bringing mixxx over to Fedora? I'm pretty
> sure it can be packaged in Fedora proper these days.
>
>
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Re: Introduction

[Neal Gompa]

On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 6:08 PM Luis Correia  wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink Wireless 
> driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time.
>
> I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over at 
> rpmfusion.
>
> Hope to be useful with this new venture.
>

Welcome! Have you considered bringing mixxx over to Fedora? I'm pretty
sure it can be packaged in Fedora proper these days.



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Re: Introduction

[Leslie Satenstein via devel]

Thank you. 


Leslie Satenstein
 

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 06:08:37 p.m. EST, Luis Correia 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink Wireless 
driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time.
I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over at 
rpmfusion.
Hope to be useful with this new venture.
Luis Correia
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Re: Introduction

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 11:07:43PM +, Luis Correia wrote:
> Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink
> Wireless driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time.
> 
> I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over at
> rpmfusion.
> 
> Hope to be useful with this new venture.

Cool. Welcome.

Zbyszek
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Introduction

[Luis Correia]

Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink
Wireless driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time.

I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over at
rpmfusion.

Hope to be useful with this new venture.

Luis Correia
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Re: Self Introduction: Leo Sandoval

[Steve Cossette]

Welcome to Fedora!

Drop by matrix, we don't bite (hard)!

Le jeu. 1 févr. 2024, à 19 h 48, Leo Sandoval  a
écrit :

> Dear Fedora Community!
>
> My name is Leonardo Sandoval, a software developer living in Guadalajara,
> Mexico. I have been in the industry since 2006, most of the time close to
> the Linux kernel (openmax, gstreamer, glibc, yocto project, ltib,
> toolchains) and recently doing gitlab CI/CD, but all the time under
> GNU/Linux (and emacs). Also, I recently started teaching Fundamentals of OS
> in a local university, trying to get new students involved into the Linux
> internals.
>
> Since Dic 2023 I have been working at RedHat (remote), in particular
> I  joined the  bootloader team to co-maintain Fedora grub2 and other
> bootloader tasks. I have the fortune to be surrounded by amazing  technical
> people so I am  glad to be part of this team and Fedora community in
> general.
>
> Leo
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Re: Self Introduction: Leo Sandoval

[Neal Gompa]

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 12:48 AM Leo Sandoval  wrote:
>
> Dear Fedora Community!
>
> My name is Leonardo Sandoval, a software developer living in Guadalajara, 
> Mexico. I have been in the industry since 2006, most of the time close to the 
> Linux kernel (openmax, gstreamer, glibc, yocto project, ltib, toolchains) and 
> recently doing gitlab CI/CD, but all the time under GNU/Linux (and emacs). 
> Also, I recently started teaching Fundamentals of OS in a local university, 
> trying to get new students involved into the Linux internals.
>
> Since Dic 2023 I have been working at RedHat (remote), in particular I  
> joined the  bootloader team to co-maintain Fedora grub2 and other bootloader 
> tasks. I have the fortune to be surrounded by amazing  technical people so I 
> am  glad to be part of this team and Fedora community in general.
>

Welcome to Fedora, Leo!



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Self Introduction: Leo Sandoval

[Leo Sandoval]

Dear Fedora Community!

My name is Leonardo Sandoval, a software developer living in Guadalajara,
Mexico. I have been in the industry since 2006, most of the time close to
the Linux kernel (openmax, gstreamer, glibc, yocto project, ltib,
toolchains) and recently doing gitlab CI/CD, but all the time under
GNU/Linux (and emacs). Also, I recently started teaching Fundamentals of OS
in a local university, trying to get new students involved into the Linux
internals.

Since Dic 2023 I have been working at RedHat (remote), in particular
I  joined the  bootloader team to co-maintain Fedora grub2 and other
bootloader tasks. I have the fortune to be surrounded by amazing  technical
people so I am  glad to be part of this team and Fedora community in
general.

Leo
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Re: Self Introduction: Neftali Yagua

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 04:26:50AM +, Neftalí Yagua wrote:
> Dear Community!
> 
> My name is Neftalí Yagua, a Software Engineer from Venezuela since 2004,
> I'm worked with Linux since 1997, my beginnings with RHEL have been with
> RedHat, but I have been using Fedora for about 10 years, and I love it, I
> want to be an active part of the community, develop and maintain sources
> for Fedora. I would even like to make a distribution based on Fedora.

Hi Neftalí,

welcome!

I tried to follow the links, but they either return 404 or lead to a
page index where the subfolders return 403 (permission denied).
Also, it's not great to use a link obfuscator/tracker. Please just
show the real links to the destination pages. It's also easier to
spot typos in such links ;)

Zbyszek


> 
> I am currently working on the development of plugins for Cockpit, to try to
> integrate myself and at the same time have some control over the projects.
> http://links.neftaliyagua.com/ls/click?upn=lAjBpxZAYTGU0gh6HQsXzgI75bmeb7UjLATZ4HOAEA47AQPQGhHc0Rn0-2Fh8QSGcYI4-2BlDNQniyhgzyWzygfu6A-3D-3DDl4V_3yVA0AJkLK9RgkvZQZCJdO94hzOZQVjCoe20Mu-2BWM5HBXsZ0An3ls9w8QbBlVtybZ18GiHUiCl9zHo-2FqdmJOImOugeS8HOHZjLXRClE1b7ERLBgraWFljzydXAEWANbJrlhSIyfLbBmeGn8jbX4WzoHYVr3BNn5seSDB-2BGl64Q4rNN-2Bckt05YCjFx8-2F3nKTcUMdLDY4oCVwQFVkXqpZUbU0HO5ItbSKpOf7XW06DAJU-3D
> 
> Additionally, I will be collaborating with the translations into Spanish. I
> have experience in multiple programming languages.
> 
> Please, if you think I can contribute something to a project you are
> working on, invite me.
> 
> http://links.neftaliyagua.com/ls/click?upn=lAjBpxZAYTGU0gh6HQsXzi95GQNLYugmhu8M5rb2oTSNkjGcFl4XEkoGIUhmeQ2ty8gg_3yVA0AJkLK9RgkvZQZCJdO94hzOZQVjCoe20Mu-2BWM5HBXsZ0An3ls9w8QbBlVtybZ18GiHUiCl9zHo-2FqdmJOIoTTR-2BK7ozjFJKwY655WLpHAejW-2FCObKs8zAatNBgW-2BDzCTo63PwJfI1zGJQsegqi2cQE-2B-2Bw4CjNps0WNxuThPVXjPJQMost-2FubXZDECeVVDN0GuarpdI39X-2BbUnB3Vv4uJdYqtOJnWvTa29I2trV50-3D
> http://links.neftaliyagua.com/ls/click?upn=lAjBpxZAYTGU0gh6HQsXzuW-2BqCohBeZuiXr8bYbVwRO5rMZdVZFscbZ7H5NzfFjqBgJM_3yVA0AJkLK9RgkvZQZCJdO94hzOZQVjCoe20Mu-2BWM5HBXsZ0An3ls9w8QbBlVtybZ18GiHUiCl9zHo-2FqdmJOIs22YYEAtTP9nBVcA-2Fu1iv0OuKQ6wt3Lwyy9BbLPZO6RpVa7GvxKXuIDcte1Kit7R5CB9rK-2BRhqvNndA7UFajhqRVJRmkDtk1cMsq8EbSxFzTDWEiKOuoRvYs-2Fv8eW3kXaKjxXN9Hy0EA7txO-2B0gq6o-3D
> http://links.neftaliyagua.com/ls/click?upn=lAjBpxZAYTGU0gh6HQsXzr8QK3Perh2BRCaz0OO5vsy-2F1ck-2BT7FPvxUZ0V60jdEPu-rD_3yVA0AJkLK9RgkvZQZCJdO94hzOZQVjCoe20Mu-2BWM5HBXsZ0An3ls9w8QbBlVtybZ18GiHUiCl9zHo-2FqdmJOIooGlZ-2Bzot5FzojzZyXi-2FyD2kg9LN4Nlp-2Bu5RJV4sooEOfZBmmQ4p5PUxWUfmOIt0F6lKP5GIMelu9bg81CXO9NoYtLnEty-2BBsFr03rDlV3AlcrxPrXqeUrkJfM7kpCFJ-2FTodY-2Bo8Q2b-2BkEB08SYn5E-3D
> Linux User: 507122 Ubuntu User: 30642
>   -- Regards, Neftali Yagua
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Re: Self Introduction: Jacek Migacz

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 08:46:08PM +0100, Jacek Migacz wrote:
> Dear Community!
> 
> My name is Jacek Migacz; a software engineer from Poland.
> I'm currently maintaining curl and emacs on Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
> I am eager to learn from the collective wisdom of the community and
> contribute in meaningful ways.

Cześć!

Zbyszek
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Re: Self Introduction: Kan-Ru Chen

[kevin]

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 03:39:06PM +0900, Kan-Ru Chen wrote:
> Hello Fedora,
> 
> I have been lurking around the mailing lists, forum, and chats. It's
> time for a self introduction! My first distribution was CLE 0.9 which
> was based on Red Hat 6.1. Later I have switched between many
> distributions then settled on Debian and became a DD. I was interested
> by Fedora again when packaging a Flatpak application and came to know
> the Silverblue variant.
> 
> I'm now using Silverblue as my daily driver and CoreOS for some of my
> hosting needs. I'm looking forward to contribute to Fedora especially
> in the i18n area and beta testing.

Welcome!

You may be interested in the #i18n:fedoraproject.org and
#quality:fedoraproject.org matrix channels if you haven't already seen
them. :)

kevin


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Re: Self Introduction: Jacek Migacz

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Hello, Jacek!

On Friday, 26 January 2024 at 20:46, Jacek Migacz wrote:
> Dear Community!
> 
> My name is Jacek Migacz; a software engineer from Poland.
> I'm currently maintaining curl and emacs on Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
> I am eager to learn from the collective wisdom of the community and
> contribute in meaningful ways.

Welcome to Fedora! Feel free to drop by our official room on Matrix[1]
and/or IRC[2] to say hello.

[1] #pl:fedoraproject.org
[2] #fedora-pl

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Self Introduction: Kan-Ru Chen

[Kan-Ru Chen]

Hello Fedora,

I have been lurking around the mailing lists, forum, and chats. It's
time for a self introduction! My first distribution was CLE 0.9 which
was based on Red Hat 6.1. Later I have switched between many
distributions then settled on Debian and became a DD. I was interested
by Fedora again when packaging a Flatpak application and came to know
the Silverblue variant.

I'm now using Silverblue as my daily driver and CoreOS for some of my
hosting needs. I'm looking forward to contribute to Fedora especially
in the i18n area and beta testing.

Cheers,
Kan-Ru

* CLE stands for Chinese GNU/Linux Extensions, a pioneer effort to bring
  i18n and Chinese l10n to GNU/Linux.
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Self Introduction: Neftali Yagua

[Neftalí Yagua]

Dear Community!

My name is Neftalí Yagua, a Software Engineer from Venezuela since 2004,
I'm worked with Linux since 1997, my beginnings with RHEL have been with
RedHat, but I have been using Fedora for about 10 years, and I love it, I
want to be an active part of the community, develop and maintain sources
for Fedora. I would even like to make a distribution based on Fedora.

I am currently working on the development of plugins for Cockpit, to try to
integrate myself and at the same time have some control over the projects.
http://links.neftaliyagua.com/ls/click?upn=lAjBpxZAYTGU0gh6HQsXzgI75bmeb7UjLATZ4HOAEA47AQPQGhHc0Rn0-2Fh8QSGcYI4-2BlDNQniyhgzyWzygfu6A-3D-3DDl4V_3yVA0AJkLK9RgkvZQZCJdO94hzOZQVjCoe20Mu-2BWM5HBXsZ0An3ls9w8QbBlVtybZ18GiHUiCl9zHo-2FqdmJOImOugeS8HOHZjLXRClE1b7ERLBgraWFljzydXAEWANbJrlhSIyfLbBmeGn8jbX4WzoHYVr3BNn5seSDB-2BGl64Q4rNN-2Bckt05YCjFx8-2F3nKTcUMdLDY4oCVwQFVkXqpZUbU0HO5ItbSKpOf7XW06DAJU-3D

Additionally, I will be collaborating with the translations into Spanish. I
have experience in multiple programming languages.

Please, if you think I can contribute something to a project you are
working on, invite me.

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Self Introduction: Jacek Migacz

[Jacek Migacz]

Dear Community!

My name is Jacek Migacz; a software engineer from Poland.
I'm currently maintaining curl and emacs on Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
I am eager to learn from the collective wisdom of the community and
contribute in meaningful ways.

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Re: Self Introduction: Rafel Amer

[Priscila Gutierres]

Hello Rafel

I'm also a mathematician and I'm happy to see other people from mathematics
get involved with Fedora
Until you not become a Fedora maintainer (I hope you find a sponsor soon!)
we can work together
As a Fedora maintainer I think I can check and merge your PRs.

Priscila.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 6:17 PM Rafel Amer Ramon  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> my name is Rafel Amer and I'm professor at the Technical University of
> Catalonia https:/www.upc.edu. I teach Maths
> and I use sagemath for my classes. After the sagemath package is
> orphandend, I would like to be a maintainer or
> co-maintainer this package.
>
> I have successfully build sagemath 10.1 packages for Fedora 38 in x86_64
> and aarch64 architectures, so I think that
> I could maintain this package.
>
> I started using Linux in  1995 with Slackware and I have administered
> server with Debian and CentOS. At house and
> for my classes I use Fedora 28.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rafel Amer
>
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Re: Self Introduction: Rafel Amer

[Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski]

Welcome to Fedora, Rafel!

On Sunday, 10 December 2023 at 22:17, Rafel Amer Ramon wrote:
>Hi,
>my name is Rafel Amer and I'm professor at the Technical University of
>Catalonia [1]https:/www.upc.edu. I teach Maths
>and I use sagemath for my classes. After the sagemath package is
>orphandend, I would like to be a maintainer or
>co-maintainer this package.
>I have successfully build sagemath 10.1 packages for Fedora 38 in
>x86_64 and aarch64 architectures, so I think that
>I could maintain this package.

Maintaining packages is a little more involved than just being able to
build them, but I'm sure you'll get there. See:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Package_maintainer_responsibilities/

Since you posted this introduction, I assume you've reached
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/#introduce_yourself

If you want to maintain sagemath, which has been retired, you need to
prepare an unretirement review:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retirement_Process/#claiming

And you need to get sponsored:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/#_understand_the_sponsorship_model

We have quite a few people interested in scientific software at Fedora:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:SciTech_SIG and man other SIGs
at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_special-interest_groups

Feel free to reach out for help.

>I started using Linux in  1995 with Slackware and I have administered
>server with Debian and CentOS.

Nice! I also started with Slackware around that time.

>At house and for my classes I use Fedora 28.

I really hope that was a typo and you meant 38.

Regards,
Dominik
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Self Introduction: Rafel Amer

[Rafel Amer Ramon]

  
  
Hi,

my name is Rafel Amer and I'm professor at the Technical University
of Catalonia https:/www.upc.edu.
I teach Maths
and I use sagemath for my classes. After the sagemath package is
orphandend, I would like to be a maintainer or
co-maintainer this package.

I have successfully build sagemath 10.1 packages for Fedora 38 in
x86_64 and aarch64 architectures, so
  I think that
  I could maintain this package.
  
  I started using Linux in  1995 with Slackware and I have
  administered server with Debian and CentOS. At house and 
  for my classes I use Fedora 28.
  
  Regards,
  
  Rafel Amer
   

  
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[python-SIG] Introduction new member

[seddik alaoui ismaili]

Hi Folks,

I'm seddik, I have joined Fedora Infrastructure Community in July 2020 as a
contributor. So I'm helping with automation and monitoring tasks.
I have a little experience on python programming, and would be happy to get
involved as much as ever.

Please feel free to help me with any documentation, or process related to
fedora python contribution. I would love to help/ maintain a python
application.

I found these links :

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python#Areas_of_contribution
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=MODIFIED_status=ON_DEV_status=ON_QA_status=VERIFIED_status=RELEASE_PENDING_status=POST=Package%20Review_id=13374947=Fedora_format=advanced_desc=python_desc_type=allwordssubstr
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/How_to_Get_Sponsored_into_the_Packager_Group/


Regards,

*Seddik *
Nickname (irc / matrix ): *saibug*
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Re: Self Introduction: Jamie Chapman

[James Chapman]

Thanks Folks,

Yes I will do that.

Thanks

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 7:42 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> Hey Jamie!
>
> Welcome. :)
>
> If you get a chance do drop by our matrix space and chime in with any
> questions or comments.
>
> kevin
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Re: Self Introduction: Jamie Chapman

[Kevin Fenzi]

Hey Jamie!

Welcome. :)

If you get a chance do drop by our matrix space and chime in with any
questions or comments.

kevin


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