Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-08-01 Thread David Herring
Jim,

I'm not quite understanding why VMWare would be useless in this instance.

If you are using a serial USB device, you get to choose whether to present that 
device to the host OS (the mac) or to the guest OS (the instance of windows in 
the VM).  Simply load up your drivers in the instance of windows running in 
your VM, choose to present this device to the guest OS (the VM) and it should 
work FB.  I used to do this all the time and it has always worked perfectly.

Now that said, I've never used the K144XV application so I don't know about 
that, but I do know about VMware and when the drivers are loaded and the USB 
serial port is presented to the VM, it's a serial port like any other.  

73  Aloha,
Dave, AH6TD



On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:

 Well, as JC Fogerty said in his Stuck in Lodi Again tune: things got tough, 
 then things got worse…
 
 It turns out that VMWARE Fusion is worthless for trying to run the K144XV 
 application under Win/XP. They send serial port data to a file, instead of 
 to the USB bus. Wonderful.
 
 Two folks recommended using the $59 program CrossOver from CodeWeavers. 
 They've got a 14 day free trial, so I thought I give it a shot. Installed 
 their program and then installed the K144XV DOS utility. But, now I'm stuck - 
 no idea how to define a COM port for this thing to use. The K3, P3, and 
 KPA500 Utilities work fine with the Elecraft Serial--USB cable, so I know 
 I've got a working connection. Anyone know how to do this?
 
 Wayne / Eric / Gary: Any progress getting the Mac version of the K144XV 
 utility going to complement the other products?
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-08-01 Thread Roger de Valle
I have to agree Dave, I used fusion to set up my K144XV with no issues at all, 
I was using Windows 7 on fusion so I am not sure what Jim's problem would have 
been to cause the sort of issues he mentioned.

Roger VK3ADE

On 01/08/2012, at 19:21, David Herring d...@ah6td.com wrote:

 Jim,
 
 I'm not quite understanding why VMWare would be useless in this instance.
 
 If you are using a serial USB device, you get to choose whether to present 
 that device to the host OS (the mac) or to the guest OS (the instance of 
 windows in the VM).  Simply load up your drivers in the instance of windows 
 running in your VM, choose to present this device to the guest OS (the VM) 
 and it should work FB.  I used to do this all the time and it has always 
 worked perfectly.
 
 Now that said, I've never used the K144XV application so I don't know about 
 that, but I do know about VMware and when the drivers are loaded and the USB 
 serial port is presented to the VM, it's a serial port like any other.  
 
 73  Aloha,
 Dave, AH6TD
 
 
 
 On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
 
 Well, as JC Fogerty said in his Stuck in Lodi Again tune: things got 
 tough, then things got worse…
 
 It turns out that VMWARE Fusion is worthless for trying to run the K144XV 
 application under Win/XP. They send serial port data to a file, instead of 
 to the USB bus. Wonderful.
 
 Two folks recommended using the $59 program CrossOver from CodeWeavers. 
 They've got a 14 day free trial, so I thought I give it a shot. Installed 
 their program and then installed the K144XV DOS utility. But, now I'm stuck 
 - no idea how to define a COM port for this thing to use. The K3, P3, and 
 KPA500 Utilities work fine with the Elecraft Serial--USB cable, so I know 
 I've got a working connection. Anyone know how to do this?
 
 Wayne / Eric / Gary: Any progress getting the Mac version of the K144XV 
 utility going to complement the other products?
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-08-01 Thread Jim Bennett
OK - problem solved.

Hey guys - thanks for the Fusion follow-up replies! I was going to give 
CrossOver a shot but decided to look at Fusion one more time, as AH6TD and 
VK3ADE said it worked for them. Well, I certainly have a giant egg on my face. 
I was trying to use my K3/P3/KPA500 USB--serial cable to do the K144XV 
firmware update! Nothing I did worked. But for some reason I remembered that 
the K144XV came with a separate cable that plugs into that little module, on 
the side. I pulled the  K3/P3/KPA500 USB--serial cable out and plugged in the 
one that hooks directly into the K144XV and - bingo - it works perfectly.

Yippee - now, on to actually USING the 2 meter module!

73, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-31 Thread Mike Markowski
Jim,

This utility seems to be the only one where Elecraft is Windows-only with no
apparent plans to change.  I discovered the same last year looking for the linux
version, when Elecraft support recommended using a virtual host.  :-(

The easiest solution I found was installing VirtualBox (free) and then
installing Windows XP in it, but you do need an XP installation disc.  (At work,
as soon as desktop PCs are bought for email/web, the Windows os is replaced with
linux so we have many old XP, Vista, 7 cd 'frisbees'.)

GL es 73,
Mike ab3ap

On 07/30/2012 11:29 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
 I posted this question several hours ago. It is in the archives, but I never 
 got an email so I'm thinking that it never got sent to anyone. If it did, 
 please excuse this possible double-post of my question. Here is what I asked:

 I must be missing something - looking on the 
 www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to find the Mac 
 OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the Windows version (1.3.2.27), but 
 not the Mac version.

 Towards the bottom of the page are links for the Mac version of the KUSB 
 driver, but that isn't gonna help!

 Please tell me that there really IS a Mac version of the firmware and where I 
 can find it.

 Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-31 Thread Bill Frantz
On April 11, 2012 I asked support about Mac support for the 
K144XV. Garry Surrency replied:

Not at this time, but we are working on it. You will need a Windows PC to do 
the K144XV f/w update.

My current plan is to beg help from friends who have PCs should 
there be a new firmware release. (I worked with Windows 12 years 
ago. I don't want to to pay for the pain of managing a Windows system.)

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 7/30/12 at 20:29, w6...@mac.com (Jim Bennett) wrote:

I must be missing something - looking on the 
www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to 
find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the 
Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-31 Thread W4ATK
Bill, 

Check out CrossOver. It is a $59.95  app from CodeWeavers that sets up a PC 
based program to run on a Mac. There is no requirement for Windows. I have used 
it for the following things so far,  JT65-HF, EZNEC2 antenna design software, 
RS91 Icom Programming software, and lastly CWGet Morse decoder. If you are 
using a com port, as you  would be, you will need to create a Unix type link to 
associate the COMx number to a USB/serial driver, very easy.

Jim, W4ATK

On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:

 On April 11, 2012 I asked support about Mac support for the 
 K144XV. Garry Surrency replied:
 
 Not at this time, but we are working on it. You will need a Windows PC to do 
 the K144XV f/w update.
 
 My current plan is to beg help from friends who have PCs should 
 there be a new firmware release. (I worked with Windows 12 years 
 ago. I don't want to to pay for the pain of managing a Windows system.)
 
 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV
 
 On 7/30/12 at 20:29, w6...@mac.com (Jim Bennett) wrote:
 
 I must be missing something - looking on the 
 www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to 
 find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the 
 Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.
 
 -
 Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when  | Periwinkle
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 Englewood Ave
 www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, 
 CA 95032
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-31 Thread Ray Sills
I'd recommend Crossover as well. It's a little strange to set up, but once 
done, it does a nice job. 

I use it to run Echolink. 

73 de Ray
K2ULR


On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:04 AM, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Bill, 
 
 Check out CrossOver. It is a $59.95  app from CodeWeavers that sets up a PC 
 based program to run on a Mac. There is no requirement for Windows. I have 
 used it for the following things so far,  JT65-HF, EZNEC2 antenna design 
 software, RS91 Icom Programming software, and lastly CWGet Morse decoder. If 
 you are using a com port, as you  would be, you will need to create a Unix 
 type link to associate the COMx number to a USB/serial driver, very easy.
 
 Jim, W4ATK
 
 On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
 
 On April 11, 2012 I asked support about Mac support for the 
 K144XV. Garry Surrency replied:
 
 Not at this time, but we are working on it. You will need a Windows PC to 
 do the K144XV f/w update.
 
 My current plan is to beg help from friends who have PCs should 
 there be a new firmware release. (I worked with Windows 12 years 
 ago. I don't want to to pay for the pain of managing a Windows system.)
 
 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV
 
 On 7/30/12 at 20:29, w6...@mac.com (Jim Bennett) wrote:
 
 I must be missing something - looking on the 
 www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to 
 find the Mac OS X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the 
 Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not the Mac version.
 
 -
 Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when  | Periwinkle
 (408)356-8506  | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 
 Englewood Ave
 www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, 
 CA 95032
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-31 Thread Jim Bennett
Looks like something has gone astray with my email receiving - I'm only getting 
a couple of messages from this reflector, none of which were regarding my 
K144XV Utility question. I just popped up to the reflector archives and see 
that there were several replies. Thanks to those who answered me. 

 have an iMac with VMWARE Fusion and Win/XP sitting on another desk, so I'll 
have to load the USB-Serial driver over there and move my cable to that 
computer temporarily to run the utility. I wish Elecraft would have simply put 
a one-liner on their web page indicating that there was no Mac version of the 
K144XV Utility - would have saved me a bunch of time. And I hope that this 
utility WILL come in a Mac version some day, like the other's I've been using: 
K3 Utility, P3 Utility, KPA500 Utility - the Mac versions of them work very 
well.

Regards, Jim


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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-31 Thread Jim Bennett
Well, as JC Fogerty said in his Stuck in Lodi Again tune: things got tough, 
then things got worse…

It turns out that VMWARE Fusion is worthless for trying to run the K144XV 
application under Win/XP. They send serial port data to a file, instead of to 
the USB bus. Wonderful.

Two folks recommended using the $59 program CrossOver from CodeWeavers. 
They've got a 14 day free trial, so I thought I give it a shot. Installed their 
program and then installed the K144XV DOS utility. But, now I'm stuck - no idea 
how to define a COM port for this thing to use. The K3, P3, and KPA500 
Utilities work fine with the Elecraft Serial--USB cable, so I know I've got a 
working connection. Anyone know how to do this?

Wayne / Eric / Gary: Any progress getting the Mac version of the K144XV utility 
going to complement the other products?
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[Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-30 Thread Jim Bennett
I posted this question several hours ago. It is in the archives, but I never 
got an email so I'm thinking that it never got sent to anyone. If it did, 
please excuse this possible double-post of my question. Here is what I asked:

I must be missing something - looking on the 
www.Elecraft.com/K3/144xv_software.htm pages and I'm unable to find the Mac OS 
X version of the K144XV Utility. I see the Windows version (1.3.2.27), but not 
the Mac version.

Towards the bottom of the page are links for the Mac version of the KUSB 
driver, but that isn't gonna help!

Please tell me that there really IS a Mac version of the firmware and where I 
can find it.

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Utility for Mac (Repost)

2012-07-30 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com writes
Please tell me that there really IS a Mac version of the firmware and
where I can find it.

Your original e-mail did appear on the reflector okay, Jim. I've had a
look at all possible sources but, like you, am unable to find a K144XV
utility for the Mac.

There seem to be several difficulties that Mac owners have is updating
Elecraft gear with the latest firmware that I feel a sensible solution
would be to get a cheap basic Windows compatible computer for the
purpose. Such a PC would only cost a few dollars and if you were in the
UK I would gladly give you one.

I won't say scrap the Mac, but you know what I mean.

73 de David G4DMP

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