Re: Templeton Foundation

2009-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal


On 05 Feb 2009, at 01:56, Brent Meeker wrote:

>
> Kim Jones wrote:
>> The Templeton Foundation gives sizeable grants to projects for
>> reconciling science and religion, and awards a yearly prize of two
>> million dollars to a philosopher or scientist whose work highlights
>> the "spiritual dimension of scientific progress."
>>
>> Go for it, Bruno! If Paul Davies can do it with a rather mediocre  
>> tome
>> like "The Mind of God" - you will surely impress them with your
>> machine theology - none of which they will understand, so it will
>> surely command respect.
>>
>> Not a cynical suggestion; if the Templeton Foundation is anything
>> beyond a perverse attempt to reward scientists who are prepared to  
>> say
>> something nice about religion, then your setting this whole science/
>> religion (physical sciences/human sciences; whatever) house in order
>> will surely be worth the two million. And then you would be obliged  
>> to
>> write a book about it all that will show the materialist/atheists a
>> thing or two!
>>
>> Hands up if you think Bruno should apply for a Templeton grant!!!  
>> With
>> two million in his bank balance, he might even come out to Australia
>> to visit me and Russell!!!
>
> Sure.  Go for it, Bruno!



Thanks for the encouragement. I appreciate the suggestion.
Thanks to Kim for that suggestion, and for beginning the translation,  
it seems very good. Unfortunately I am a bit busy. I hope I will have  
more time tomorrow, but in any case I will have time Sunday, and much  
more time next week for more precise comments, and for telling you two  
or three things about  zero, and perhaps even one :)

Have a good day,

Bruno




>
>
>>
>> What happened to Step 7, Doctor?
>>
>> warmest regards
>>
>> Kim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Another annoying feature of the term "metaphysics" is that it has  
>> made
>> it quasi-impossible for physicians to do metaphysics, since "meta"
>> here has a sense corresponding to "meta" in metamathematics (the old
>> name for Recursion Theory). Now, most physicians would argue (at  
>> least
>> before the rise of the quantum) that such a "meta-physics" is simply
>> physics. Which means: physicians, together with their laboratories  
>> and
>> their libraries simply obey the laws of physics. OK, but when you
>> say the same thing of quantum mechanics, you are now heading toward
>> Everett and the Many-Worlds interpretation. Everett was the first
>> serious "meta-physician" in that sense. Well, Galileo and Einstein
>
> And your namesake, Giordano Bruno.
>
> Brent
>
>> (among others) also helped to prepare the terrain for this
>> 'desanthropomorphisation' process. Embedding the subject into the
>> object of study. Embedding the spectator in the spectacles, as the
>> Hindu says. - Bruno Marchal
>>
>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
>
> >

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/




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Re: Templeton Foundation

2009-02-04 Thread Brent Meeker

Kim Jones wrote:
> The Templeton Foundation gives sizeable grants to projects for  
> reconciling science and religion, and awards a yearly prize of two  
> million dollars to a philosopher or scientist whose work highlights  
> the "spiritual dimension of scientific progress."
> 
> Go for it, Bruno! If Paul Davies can do it with a rather mediocre tome  
> like "The Mind of God" - you will surely impress them with your  
> machine theology - none of which they will understand, so it will  
> surely command respect.
> 
> Not a cynical suggestion; if the Templeton Foundation is anything  
> beyond a perverse attempt to reward scientists who are prepared to say  
> something nice about religion, then your setting this whole science/ 
> religion (physical sciences/human sciences; whatever) house in order  
> will surely be worth the two million. And then you would be obliged to  
> write a book about it all that will show the materialist/atheists a  
> thing or two!
> 
> Hands up if you think Bruno should apply for a Templeton grant!!! With  
> two million in his bank balance, he might even come out to Australia  
> to visit me and Russell!!!

Sure.  Go for it, Bruno!

> 
> What happened to Step 7, Doctor?
> 
> warmest regards
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Another annoying feature of the term "metaphysics" is that it has made  
> it quasi-impossible for physicians to do metaphysics, since "meta"  
> here has a sense corresponding to "meta" in metamathematics (the old  
> name for Recursion Theory). Now, most physicians would argue (at least  
> before the rise of the quantum) that such a "meta-physics" is simply  
> physics. Which means: physicians, together with their laboratories and  
> their libraries simply obey the laws of physics. OK, but when you  
> say the same thing of quantum mechanics, you are now heading toward  
> Everett and the Many-Worlds interpretation. Everett was the first  
> serious "meta-physician" in that sense. Well, Galileo and Einstein  

And your namesake, Giordano Bruno.

Brent

> (among others) also helped to prepare the terrain for this  
> 'desanthropomorphisation' process. Embedding the subject into the  
> object of study. Embedding the spectator in the spectacles, as the  
> Hindu says. - Bruno Marchal
> 
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/

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Templeton Foundation

2009-02-04 Thread Kim Jones

The Templeton Foundation gives sizeable grants to projects for  
reconciling science and religion, and awards a yearly prize of two  
million dollars to a philosopher or scientist whose work highlights  
the "spiritual dimension of scientific progress."

Go for it, Bruno! If Paul Davies can do it with a rather mediocre tome  
like "The Mind of God" - you will surely impress them with your  
machine theology - none of which they will understand, so it will  
surely command respect.

Not a cynical suggestion; if the Templeton Foundation is anything  
beyond a perverse attempt to reward scientists who are prepared to say  
something nice about religion, then your setting this whole science/ 
religion (physical sciences/human sciences; whatever) house in order  
will surely be worth the two million. And then you would be obliged to  
write a book about it all that will show the materialist/atheists a  
thing or two!

Hands up if you think Bruno should apply for a Templeton grant!!! With  
two million in his bank balance, he might even come out to Australia  
to visit me and Russell!!!

What happened to Step 7, Doctor?

warmest regards

Kim





Another annoying feature of the term "metaphysics" is that it has made  
it quasi-impossible for physicians to do metaphysics, since "meta"  
here has a sense corresponding to "meta" in metamathematics (the old  
name for Recursion Theory). Now, most physicians would argue (at least  
before the rise of the quantum) that such a "meta-physics" is simply  
physics. Which means: physicians, together with their laboratories and  
their libraries simply obey the laws of physics. OK, but when you  
say the same thing of quantum mechanics, you are now heading toward  
Everett and the Many-Worlds interpretation. Everett was the first  
serious "meta-physician" in that sense. Well, Galileo and Einstein  
(among others) also helped to prepare the terrain for this  
'desanthropomorphisation' process. Embedding the subject into the  
object of study. Embedding the spectator in the spectacles, as the  
Hindu says. - Bruno Marchal

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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