Re: Chinese input methods
Steve Underwood wrote: > I think Romanised entry is a PITA, but nobody has implemented a decent > stroke entry method for the recent X11 input schemes. I'd really like > to find the time to port my old stroke input system from the xcin days > to work with ibus. Chances are I won't. :-) > Romanization at its "finest" going from Chinese to Roman characters. In Taipei, at one time or another, they used 3 different methods to Romanize street names. The street that I live on had 3 different spellings on signs depending on where in the city you were. Combined with the non-English speaking sign makers actually gave you 4 when they produced both "Pateh" and "Patch" roads. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fc9 and kde 4.3
Hallo group members. Are there kde 4.3 rpm packages already available for fc9? if not are they going to be? best regards, michal -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chinese input methods
On 08/22/2009 01:07 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: On 08/22/2009 12:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: Hi all, Fedora 11 has changed the input method system yet again. The new system looks like its probably an improvement. However, I can't find many of the input methods that used to be available with SCIM in earlier versions. Things like jyut ping. Have I missed something, or do I need to change from Fedora 11 to something usable? I've not checkedbut do you have scim-chewing installed? I thought that included jyutping I have chewing installed. That only gives you the Taiwanese input scheme. Jyut ping was amongst the simple table inputs in SCIM. As far as I can see only a few of those simple table input methods have been carried across to ibus. Hummm I thought jyutping was geared towards Cantonese. When you say "Taiwanese" do you really mean "Traditional" as in Traditional Chinese Characters v.s. Simplified Chinese Characters? Even on my RHELv4 system with a full scim-1.4.4-2.el4 install I only have /usr/share/scim/tables/Jyutping.bin installed and SCIM management classifies it as "Traditional". jyutping is a Hong Kong entry system, so its a Traditional Chinese system. I do hope ibus becomes the one final input scheme. This endless changing of input schemes, with more concern about the code than about users entering characters, has been a huge pain for anyone who uses Chinese/Japanese/Korean on Linux (and maybe other languages for all I know). I've not had must problem with Japanese or Korean. Chinese seems to be a different issue due to the different dialects Cantonese, Mandarin, Hakka, etc., and the various schemes to Romanize. I think Romanised entry is a PITA, but nobody has implemented a decent stroke entry method for the recent X11 input schemes. I'd really like to find the time to port my old stroke input system from the xcin days to work with ibus. Chances are I won't. :-) Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chinese input methods
Steve Underwood wrote: > On 08/22/2009 12:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Steve Underwood wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Fedora 11 has changed the input method system yet again. The new >>> system looks like its probably an improvement. However, I can't find >>> many of the input methods that used to be available with SCIM in >>> earlier versions. Things like jyut ping. Have I missed something, or >>> do I need to change from Fedora 11 to something usable? >>> >>> >> I've not checkedbut do you have scim-chewing installed? I thought >> that included jyutping >> > I have chewing installed. That only gives you the Taiwanese input > scheme. Jyut ping was amongst the simple table inputs in SCIM. As far > as I can see only a few of those simple table input methods have been > carried across to ibus. Hummm I thought jyutping was geared towards Cantonese. When you say "Taiwanese" do you really mean "Traditional" as in Traditional Chinese Characters v.s. Simplified Chinese Characters? Even on my RHELv4 system with a full scim-1.4.4-2.el4 install I only have /usr/share/scim/tables/Jyutping.bin installed and SCIM management classifies it as "Traditional". > > I do hope ibus becomes the one final input scheme. This endless > changing of input schemes, with more concern about the code than about > users entering characters, has been a huge pain for anyone who uses > Chinese/Japanese/Korean on Linux (and maybe other languages for all I > know). > > I've not had must problem with Japanese or Korean. Chinese seems to be a different issue due to the different dialects Cantonese, Mandarin, Hakka, etc., and the various schemes to Romanize. -- We come to bury DOS, not to praise it. (Paul Vojta, vo...@math.berkeley.edu, paraphrasing a quote of Shakespeare) mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chinese input methods
On 08/22/2009 12:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: Hi all, Fedora 11 has changed the input method system yet again. The new system looks like its probably an improvement. However, I can't find many of the input methods that used to be available with SCIM in earlier versions. Things like jyut ping. Have I missed something, or do I need to change from Fedora 11 to something usable? I've not checkedbut do you have scim-chewing installed? I thought that included jyutping I have chewing installed. That only gives you the Taiwanese input scheme. Jyut ping was amongst the simple table inputs in SCIM. As far as I can see only a few of those simple table input methods have been carried across to ibus. I do hope ibus becomes the one final input scheme. This endless changing of input schemes, with more concern about the code than about users entering characters, has been a huge pain for anyone who uses Chinese/Japanese/Korean on Linux (and maybe other languages for all I know). Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On 08/21/2009 11:12 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Also, I'm not sure what is going wrong with your akmod package but it works like a charm for me. Do you have the kernel-devel package installed for your current kernel? I can never remember if kernel-headers is required too or not so I just install both. If an additional package is required and is not in the akmod-nvidia SPEC then it is a bug and it should be filed in the RPM Fusion bugzilla. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
>On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:25 PM, wrote: > They weren't bad until now. For the last 3-4 kernel updates, which is the > time I've been using them, updates came real fast. Then, with > 2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64, I decided to give akmod a try, and it was a > complete failure. (Of course, that was with my video card, an Asus > EN9400GT.) Just an FYI, I searched the release notes from Nvidia[1] and it lists two 9400 GT cards are supported. The device ID's are 0x042C & 0x0641. You can try "lspci -nn | grep VGA" and see if your's is one of the two. For instance, my output is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GT] [10de:0391] (rev a1) Near the end, the 10de is the vendor code I believe and the second have after the ":" is the device ID. Also, I'm not sure what is going wrong with your akmod package but it works like a charm for me. Do you have the kernel-devel package installed for your current kernel? I can never remember if kernel-headers is required too or not so I just install both. Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chinese input methods
Steve Underwood wrote: > Hi all, > > Fedora 11 has changed the input method system yet again. The new > system looks like its probably an improvement. However, I can't find > many of the input methods that used to be available with SCIM in > earlier versions. Things like jyut ping. Have I missed something, or > do I need to change from Fedora 11 to something usable? > I've not checkedbut do you have scim-chewing installed? I thought that included jyutping -- It is the quality rather than the quantity that matters. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Chinese input methods
Hi all, Fedora 11 has changed the input method system yet again. The new system looks like its probably an improvement. However, I can't find many of the input methods that used to be available with SCIM in earlier versions. Things like jyut ping. Have I missed something, or do I need to change from Fedora 11 to something usable? Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum problem with installing ktorrent
On FC11, latest updates, I did: $ sudo yum install ktorrent Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package ktorrent.i586 0:3.2.3-1.fc11 set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-32)>= 4.3.00 for package: ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc11.i586 --> Finished Dependency Resolution ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc11.i586 from updates has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-32)>= 4.3.00 is needed by package ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc11.i586 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-32)>= 4.3.00 is needed by package ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc11.i586 (updates) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest However, I cannot find kdelibs rev 4.3 for FC11 to solve this dependency problem. _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: plotting large datasets
Rick Walker writes: > It's got a few rough edges because it is a brand new program, but > I promise to jump on any bug reports if you want to give it a try. I can send you a pdplot input if you want to see what I'm up against. I got it to work, and the results are somewhat more usable that gnuplot in some ways, but less in other ways. Some first impressions: 1. The Time axis should have an option for time(2) format, converting to day/hours/sec etc. Currently, it shows the ten digit values in scientific format, which overlap. 2. It doesn't label the individual graphs, so you can't tell which graph is which. 3. The zooming is different than everyone else - should be click-drag rectangle (with outline), release to zoom. The second point should be allowed to be just outside the plot so you can reliably grab the zero axis. 4. Dude, scrollbars :-) 5. The git clone command fails. 6. The "homepage" link opens the homepage within a frame, need to re-target the top window. 7. If it had the ability to enable/disable the various graphs through the GUI, it'd be nearly prefect for me, caveat the above. Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox
On 08/21/2009 09:16 AM, brian wrote: thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours. Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the icons in the "write" window i'm typing now in are ok. In FF, there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason, save for the fact they're all PNGs. I thought that it was background images only, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Nor are all PNGs screwed up. I recently installed an LCD display and so modified my xorg.conf. But this problem only just appeared so i doubt it's related. Is anyone else seeing something similar (it's *really* hard to miss). Otherwise, can anyone think of what I can check? Here's the latest from yum.log: Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: gvfs-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:08 Updated: nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:10 Updated: libmtp-0.3.7-2.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-smb-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-obexftp-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-archive-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-gphoto2-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:17 Updated: gdb-6.8.50.20090302-37.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:53 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: 7:squid-3.0.STABLE18-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: m17n-db-1.5.5-1.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:07 Updated: kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:08 Updated: pciutils-devel-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:10 Updated: nss-devel-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:15 Updated: setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.18-5.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:19 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Updated: systemtap-runtime-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:52 Updated: systemtap-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:53 Updated: m17n-lib-1.5.5-1.fc11.i586 Correction: some JPEGs are also displayed like this in FF. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
> On 08/21/2009 08:51 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> Oops! So you do need additional RPMs and RPMfusion doesn't provide them. >> Which kinda seem to close the case. > No, you don't need additional RPMs. > > Instead of installing "kmod-nvidia" you would install "nvidia-x11-drv". This would be the file that you attached. And I put it where? /boot? > Just change the version to the version of the nVidia driver you wish to use. I suppose, for me, it would be 185.18.14-1 > When you install the package DKMS will build the kernel module. > Make sure you remove all kmod/akmod packages before hand. It seems pretty straightforwward, but so did it with akmod and it didn't work, maybe because I have a newer video card than most people who suggested using akmod. And maybe that's the problem the people at RPMfusion are dealing with: certain cards might not play nice with the new kernel. (For sure, by this time, they should have issued a communiqué. This really is a piss off!) I have no idea but, you know, when you're not an experienced user, any little detail that you didn't get right, is apt to send you into a nightmare that you feel you'll never get out of. That's why people like me prefer the most standard solutions that let people with more knowledge deal with the problems. I did save your file, though. If RPMfusion stops providing kmod, I'll certainly give it a try before reverting to Nouveau. Maybe other people here will agree with you that DKMS is more convenient than akmod, give it a try and ask RPMfusion to change its way of doing things. Certainly, I must thank you for merely bringing to my attention the existence of DKMS. I'm eager to see the comments you will receive from more learned people. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: plotting large datasets
> > I've got a need to plot "value vs time" data for 32 channels > > simultaneously. Gnuplot isn't up to the task (not enough uniqueness, > > even mixing lines and points, or control - the graph is just a mess). > > What else is there? You might try the pdplot program at http://www.omnisterra.com/walker/linux/pdplot/intro.htm It takes ascii datafiles and plots them to X11, postscript or PNG. The file format is x,y ascii data interspersed with commands like: title my plot xscale 1 time yscale 1 voltage 0 0 1 1 3 3 nextygraph yscale 1 current 0 8 2 2 3 4 nextygraph yscale 1 pressure 0 -1 3 3.99 the pdplot program is a daemon associated with a persistant plot window. You communicate with the daemon by sending data to it with "pd". For instance, to plot the above file you'd save it as "myplot" and do one of the following: pd myplot cat myplot | pd If you want to add new data to an already existing plot you cat do it with "cat newdata | pd -n". The general style and format works extremely well with awk(1) or perl(1) for massaging ascii data files. It's got a few rough edges because it is a brand new program, but I promise to jump on any bug reports if you want to give it a try. > > Ideally, I'd like something I can interact with - enable/disable > > channels, highlight channels, change the time range, etc. The data > > comes from processed log files, so either file or API input is OK. Sounds like a good use for Tcl/Tk. Write a front end to pd() with lots of options. Each time you make a change, Tk runs through the data a replots it with the desired format. kind regards, -- Rick Walker -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On 8/21/2009 4:31 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 08/21/2009 03:40 PM, David Boles wrote: >> On 8/21/2009 1:22 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >>> I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me >>> (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and >>> running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to >>> work with 3.0b3). I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had >>> installed would work with the beta. Are you running any other plugins >>> besides the 2 you mentioned? I kinda miss the quote collapse and header >>> scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release. >> >> >> Nightly Tester Tools 2.0.2 >> >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543 >> >> >> will solve your extension problems. :-) > > > Firefox extensions will solve my thunderbird problems? Please elaborate! Ya know. That is odd. From Thunderbird I pulled up 'the' page and, never looking, sent it. Sorry. Same plugin from the same person. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6543 -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On 08/21/2009 08:51 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
Oops! So you do need additional RPMs and RPMfusion doesn't provide them.
Which kinda seem to close the case.
No, you don't need additional RPMs.
Instead of installing "kmod-nvidia" you would install "nvidia-x11-drv".
You would have one package total installed for any number of kernels you
have installed. It's just a different SPEC file. I'll attach it for you.
Just change the version to the version of the nVidia driver you wish to
use. When you install the package DKMS will build the kernel module.
Make sure you remove all kmod/akmod packages before hand.
%define desktop_vendor freshrpms
%define nvidialibdir %{_libdir}/nvidia
%define nvidialib32dir %{_prefix}/lib/nvidia
#define beta .beta
%define debug_package %{nil}
Summary: Proprietary NVIDIA hardware accelerated OpenGL display driver
Name: nvidia-x11-drv
Version: 185.18.10
Release: 1%{?beta}%{?dist}
License: Proprietary
Group: User Interface/X Hardware Support
URL: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
# i386
Source0:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/%{version}/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-%{version}-pkg0.run
# x86_64
Source1:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/%{version}/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-%{version}-pkg2.run
Source2: nvidia.sh
Source3: nvidia.csh
Source4: nvidia-config-display
Source5: nvidia.modprobe
Source6: nvidia.nodes
# http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=20486&d=1158955681
Patch0: NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-9625-NOSMBUS.diff.txt
BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root
# Required for proper dkms operation
Requires: gcc, make
Requires(post): dkms, /sbin/ldconfig
Requires(preun): dkms
# Required by the nvidia-config-display utility/script
Requires: pyxf86config
# Required by the NVIDIA run file
Buildrequires: tar
# Required for our build
BuildRequires: desktop-file-utils
ExclusiveArch: i386 x86_64
Provides: dkms-nvidia = %{version}-%{release}
Conflicts: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
%description
Proprietary NVIDIA GL libraries, Xorg and Linux module for hardware
accelerated OpenGL support.
INSTALLING THIS PACKAGE WILL TAINT YOUR KERNEL, SO PLEASE DO NOT REPORT *ANY*
BUGS BEFORE YOU UNINSTALL THE PACKAGE AND REBOOT THE SYSTEM.
%package 32bit
Summary: Compatibility 32bit files for the 64bit Proprietary NVIDIA driver
Group: User Interface/X Hardware Support
Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
%description 32bit
Compatibility 32bit files for the 64bit Proprietary NVIDIA driver.
%prep
%setup -q -T -c
# Extract the proper "sources" for the current architecture
# We need to extract to a "not yet existing" directory first, so no "."
%ifarch i386
sh %{SOURCE0} --extract-only --target tmp/
%endif
%ifarch x86_64
sh %{SOURCE1} --extract-only --target tmp/
%endif
# Move all the files back from tmp/ to the main directory
%{__mv} tmp/* .
%{__rm} -rf tmp/
%patch0 -p0
%build
%install
%{__rm} -rf %{buildroot}
# Fix for FC6 kernels
#{__perl} -pi -e 's|#include ||g' usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h
%define dkms_name nvidia
%define dkms_vers %{version}-%{release}
%define quiet -q
# Copy dkms conf file
%{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}%{_usrsrc}/%{dkms_name}-%{dkms_vers}/
%{__cat} > %{buildroot}%{_usrsrc}/%{dkms_name}-%{dkms_vers}/dkms.conf << 'EOF'
PACKAGE_NAME=%{dkms_name}
PACKAGE_VERSION=%{dkms_vers}
MAKE[0]="make module KERNDIR=/lib/modules/$kernelver IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=1
SYSSRC=$kernel_source_dir"
BUILT_MODULE_NAME[0]=nvidia
DEST_MODULE_LOCATION[0]=/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
AUTOINSTALL=YES
EOF
# Install all the files, even the binary ones. Ick.
%{__install} -p -m 0644 usr/src/nv/{*.c,*.h,*.o,makefile,Makefile.kbuild} \
%{buildroot}%{_usrsrc}/%{dkms_name}-%{dkms_vers}/
%{__install} -p -m 0755 usr/src/nv/*.sh \
%{buildroot}%{_usrsrc}/%{dkms_name}-%{dkms_vers}/
# Install libXvMCNVIDIA.*
%{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}%{nvidialibdir}/
%{__install} -p -m 0755 usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.so.* \
%{buildroot}%{nvidialibdir}/
%{__install} -p -m 0644 usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA.a \
%{buildroot}%{nvidialibdir}/
# Install X driver and extension (is the nvidia_drv.o useful?)
%{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}%{_libdir}/xorg/modules/drivers/
%{__install} -p -m 0755 usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so \
%{buildroot}%{_libdir}/xorg/modules/drivers/
%{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}%{_libdir}/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/
%{__install} -p -m 0755 usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.%{version} \
%{buildroot}%{_libdir}/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so
#{__install} -p -m 0755 usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libnvidia-wfb.so.%{version} \
# %{buildroot}%{_libdir}/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
# Install GL and tls libs
%{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}%{nvidialibdir}/tls/
%{__install} -p -m 0755 usr/lib/*.so.%{version} \
%{buildroot}%{nvidialibdir}/
%{__install} -p -m 0755 usr/lib/tls/*.so.%{version} \
%{buildroot}%{nvidialibdir}/tls/
%ifarch x86_64
# Install 32bit compat GL and tls libs
%{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}%{nvidialib32dir}/tls/
%{__install} -p -
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
Michael Cronenworth wrote: > The Fedora kernel RPM even has DKMS hooks that trigger a module rebuild when it is updated. Nice! > You don't have to worry about having a corresponding RPM to match the kernel. This means no additional RPMs are built or required when you update the Fedora kernel package. Nicer! Later on: > Your nVidia RPM needs to be tailored for DKMS use. Oops! So you do need additional RPMs and RPMfusion doesn't provide them. Which kinda seem to close the case. > The RPM Fusion folks prefer the kmod package system. Given my expertise on the matter, I'm afraid giving an opinion wouldn't help you much. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Dual Display with Radeon Mobility 7500
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 18:20:06 William M. Quarles wrote: I'm trying to set up a spanning desktop on my Dell Latitude C640 laptop, which has an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics chipset and a Dell 1504FP LCD monitor in analog (VGA) mode. I use Gnome on Fedora 10. I can (sometimes) get the spanning desktop to work using System/Preferences/Hardware/Screen Resolution from the Gnome menu with the laptop configured to be on the left, and the external display configured to be on the right. However, this is actually the opposite of my physical setup at my desk. Every time that I try to switch the displays to their actual layout, the desktop still spans, but the displays are mirrored, which is not only useless, but can also cause problems, especially when sometimes it results in the display without the top and bottom bars missing (!). Does anybody know how I can get this work properly with the laptop on the right and the external monitor on the left? I would try to do it from the command line first, using xrandr. You can put all desktops left, right, up, down of each other, overlap, rotate, reflect sideways, upside-down, inside-out, and whatnot... When you sort out the options that make it work as you wish, you can put it in ~/.login or /etc/rc.local or whereever... man xrandr Cool, I just ran xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of LVDS and it worked! So if I were to report a bug in the Gnome tool that seems to be screwing this up, should I report it against the gnome-display-properties application, and thus the control-center RPM? Or should I report it against something at a lower level? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: plotting large datasets
NiftyFedora Mitch writes: > 32 channels is a LOT. Hence the problem :-) > Could you, an artist or a draftsman do it by hand? > Do you need all 32 channels on one page? > i.e. can you plot 4, 8, 16 to a page and just print more pages. Ideally, I'd have a GUI where I can select which channels to view, or show them all as a "background" color and select which ones to color/highlight. I don't need to see them *all* at the same time (at least, not in a way that each channel is uniquely identifiable) but the ones I do see should be together (same scale and axes). Now, if gnuplot had options for dashed or dotted lines, I might have squeaked by with it... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: System lock up firefox and ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955
On 8/21/09, NiftyFedora Mitch wrote: > Seamonkey works but Firefox triggers a system lockup. > Is this old news or am I the only one. > > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS > 200M 5955 (PCIE) Oh bother... a known issue just not easy to find without a browser. After adding radeon.modeset=0 to the kernel line in /boot/grub/grub/conf I am able to use firefox and post this follow up. Other b43 users should also check to see if Broadcom has updated firmware. See http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#b43_and_b43legacy for more info. Anyhow much improved once I found that seamonkey worked well enough I was able to do a better web search and find a better solution. Now that I have both a chicken and an egg I will be ready for breakfast in the morning. -- NiftyFedora T o m M i t c h e l l -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest kernel fixes Intel 3D video hangs
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 22:58 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Friday 21 August 2009 21:51:20 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I just installed kernel-2.6.30.5-32.fc11.x86_64 from updates-testing and > > find that my favourite 3D app (foobillard) is working again, i.e. the X > > server no longer freezes requiring a reboot. This is with Intel 965 > > video. I don't know how it affects people using window manager effects, > > but they might like to try it. > > Now this is some encouraging news! :-) And the weekend is just around the > corner, I just might try it out! > > Btw, have you tried anything 3D other than foobillard? Do you use UXA, EXA or > XAA acceleration? Any other visible improvement, like absence of random > lockups or such? I have no xorg.conf but according to the logs X is using EXA. I also tried the winpos demo (/usr/lib64/mesa/winpos) which now works and used to lock up every time. I've never had random lockups under F11 (and I still don't) but I don't use fancy composition effects so YMMV. I also haven't tried turning on modeswitching but that never seemed to make a difference before. I would encourage all interested parties to test this and report to BZ while it's still in updates-testing. My original bug report is at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948 but there may be better ones. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: dnsmasq starts even though it is disabled
> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:15:02 -0400 > From: tom.hors...@att.net > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Subject: Re: dnsmasq starts even though it is disabled > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:32:35 -0700 > Markus Kesaromous wrote: > >> How do I prevent it from being started? > > Are you running the libvirtd service? I think it > may start dnsmasq for use in its default virtual > network scheme. > > -- Yes I am. Thank for pointing this out. For the time being, I will disable this service too. Cheers, MK _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Pam configuration with ldap root user
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Guillaume CHARDIN wrote: > hi everyone, I hope someone can help me on this... > > I modify the pam configuration today to accept connection from a user > with uid&gid = 0. In /etc/pam.d/system-auth previously have this lines > : > > ### > auth required pam_env.so > auth sufficient pam_unix.so nullok try_first_pass > auth requisite pam_succeed_if.so uid >= 500 quiet > auth sufficient pam_ldap.so use_first_pass > auth required pam_deny.so > > account required pam_unix.so broken_shadow > account sufficient pam_succeed_if.so uid < 500 quiet > account [default=bad success=ok user_unknown=ignore] pam_ldap.so > account required pam_permit.so > > password requisite pam_cracklib.so try_first_pass retry=3 > password sufficient pam_unix.so sha512 shadow nullok > try_first_pass use_authtok > password sufficient pam_ldap.so use_authtok > password required pam_deny.so > > session optional pam_keyinit.so revoke > session required pam_limits.so > session [success=1 default=ignore] pam_succeed_if.so service in > crond quiet use_uid > session required pam_unix.so > session optional pam_ldap.so > ### > and i modify the auth part to : > > auth required pam_env.so > auth sufficient pam_unix.so nullok try_first_pass > auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so uid = 0 > auth requisite pam_succeed_if.so uid >= 500 quiet > auth sufficient pam_ldap.so use_first_pass > auth required pam_deny.so > > > I'm not sure about the consequences of this modifications. > But tell me if i'm wrong, but > a) the 3rd line "auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so uid = 0" > permit user with uid lower than 0 to authenticate against the system > and log it > b) the 4th line permit login to user with uid more than 500. do not > log it AND if any of other auth "method" have failed it return it to > the pgm making the call to pam. > > right ? > > Thanks for your help. > > -- > Guillaume __ I'm not very clear what you mean by "accept connection from a user > with uid&gid = 0". You'd have to do something on purpose to lock root (uid=0) out of the system. I'll try to share my limited understanding of PAM. "auth" merely establishes the user identity -is he who he claims to be? The line "auth requisite pam_succeed_if.so uid >= 500 quiet" is not to permit login, but rather to establish a user's identity; to be precise, a user whose id is not that of a system account. based on the line "authrequired pam_deny.so" The users whose IDs are listed in this block can be denied accesss (pam_deny.so) if their identity is not properly confirmed. Later, these lines "account sufficientpam_succeed_if.so uid < 500 quiet account required pam_permit.so" translate into "are you root or a system account? no problem! go right ahead!"; otherwise, some checks will run to further qualify the incoming user. BTW, if a pam file is misconfigured one could end up being locked out of the system. PAM can be a pain. For further understanding read some man pages. man pam_succeed_if man pam_permit man pam_deny HTH, ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
2009/8/21 Michael Cronenworth : > On 08/21/2009 05:13 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >> File a bug? Demand? >> >> What response time does your support contract promise? >> > > If this is the attitude of RPM Fusion packagers, why on earth are they > touting kmod as a superior kernel module packaging system? They would have > *less* to worry about if they switched to DKMS. Users would have more uptime > and less "I hope RPM Fusion is making a new RPM for me." Or, everyone could switch to akmods, which achieves the same result as DKMS but installs packages correctly (and removes them when no longer needed). -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dovecot update warning
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:33:16 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: > You should report this as a bug. Appreciate the warning, but lots of people > don't follow this list. I dunno. Didn't really seem like a bug to me, just your standard every day linux update that breaks backwards compatibility. That seems to happen all the time, and in this case was actually easy to fix, once I found the right web page. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora And Virtualization
Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: don't use VM$#$$#$# please use KVM, libvirt and virt-manager Be aware that KVM is a free-standing package, depending on your needs and preferences you might want to pass on virt-manager. xen is also available. If you are going to run Linux VMs this isn't a bad choice, works quite well. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Gene Poole wrote: If I plan to run VMware Servers on a Fedora 11 machine, is it good practice to install the virtual kernel? Thanks, Gene Poole Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: plotting large datasets
On 8/21/09, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I've got a need to plot "value vs time" data for 32 channels > simultaneously. Gnuplot isn't up to the task (not enough uniqueness, > even mixing lines and points, or control - the graph is just a mess). > What else is there? > > Ideally, I'd like something I can interact with - enable/disable > channels, highlight channels, change the time range, etc. The data > comes from processed log files, so either file or API input is OK. > > Ideas? > 32 channels is a LOT. Could you, an artist or a draftsman do it by hand? Do you need all 32 channels on one page? i.e. can you plot 4, 8, 16 to a page and just print more pages. Can you use R to run statistics to select groups or in some other way make sense of it? Can you put the data behind a script on a web server and let the viewer pick subsets. -- NiftyFedora T o m M i t c h e l l -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On 08/21/2009 05:13 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: File a bug? Demand? What response time does your support contract promise? If this is the attitude of RPM Fusion packagers, why on earth are they touting kmod as a superior kernel module packaging system? They would have *less* to worry about if they switched to DKMS. Users would have more uptime and less "I hope RPM Fusion is making a new RPM for me." Do we want to have upset users just because you feel time isn't important to you? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
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Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; most of my clients use IM to communicate realtime, however I have one who uses their own IRC server. Is there a way I can setup KDE or a specific IRC chat tool to alert me with a desktop popup message whenever my name is used in an irc room? Currently I'm using Konversation and I have it set to "watch" for my username but I'm not getting any alerts Chatzilla will turn the appropriate tab red when your name is taken in vain. There are some rules controlling this, but pretty much for your use the server tab will turn red. You can use "aggressive notification" option to get flash or beep. Never tried running it under KDE. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Menu/Panel
Don't hijack threads. When you have a new topic, start a fresh message instead of replying to an existing one. Changing the Subject line doesn't make it right. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On 08/21/2009 06:25 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Now, you tell me that DKMS, which is a less specific tool, would do a better job? that I update for newer driver versions only, not kernels. So, if there's a kernel security update, as at least the 2 last updates were, you don't update? Sure you could use the akmod package if you want more packages installed but I do not. What does "if you want more packages installed" mean? I just want want my video card to work with the most recent kernel. DKMS generates kernel modules on-demand instead of on a per-RPM basis. The Fedora kernel RPM even has DKMS hooks that trigger a module rebuild when it is updated. You don't have to worry about having a corresponding RPM to match the kernel. This means no additional RPMs are built or required when you update the Fedora kernel package. The "akmod" package is supposed to mirror this functionality, but users note that akmod packages simply don't work as intended. On a side note, you could even use a kernel.org vanilla kernel with DKMS. This simply couldn't happen under an akmod or kmod package that livna/RPM Fusion utilize. Why should I ask DKMS? yum search dkms Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit === Matched: dkms === dkms.noarch : Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework It seems all I have to do is install DKMS. Maybe you could explain what happens afterwards. You cannot simply install DKMS and be safe. Your nVidia RPM needs to be tailored for DKMS use. The freshrpms.net RPM was DKMS driven. The livna/RPM Fusion RPM is kmod driven. I suggested to use DKMS when RPM Fusion was forming and it was shot down for reasons of personal bias. The RPM Fusion folks prefer the kmod package system. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: virt-install - Custom Disk layout Missing while instalation
Mohammad Mateen Aslam wrote: > IIRC, the text mode installer lost some of these options in F11 (nothing > to do with virtualization). Any solution to this, am i alone in whole community ??? Can you change to a console window and partition with fdisk? Then move on? -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dovecot update warning
Tom Horsley wrote: Just a warning to anyone running dovecot and cmusieve. The new dovecot-1.2.3-1.fc11.x86_64 I just updated to includes a native sieve plugin and the dovecot-sieve rpm includes nothing that resembles a cmusieve plugin. This mean that unless you have softbounce turned on (from previous bad experiences :-), you'll basically lose all incoming mail till you fix things. Fortunately, the fix is pretty simple: Change the plugin name "cmusieve" in the /etc/dovecot.conf file to just "sieve". Details at: http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve/Dovecot#Migration_from_CMUSieve You should report this as a bug. Appreciate the warning, but lots of people don't follow this list. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: raid stripe size vs performance
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/8/20 Pasi Kärkkäinen : On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 01:43:27PM -0700, Phill wrote: I'm rebuilding a RHEL 5 server used primarily for building code. It has perc 6i controller and I'm installing 6 15K sas drives. The plan is to setup a raid 10 configuration for improved performance. Does anyone know if I can significantly increase or degrade my performance by selecting a larger stripe size? The default is 64k and I have read in a performance report that a 512k size may be more desirable for Linux systems. Thanks for any replies. Well.. if you do large sequential reads/writes then big stripe size will help, but if you do small random-io then large stripe size like that will be really bad. It really depends on your workload. I was about to say much the same thing in closing, but actually was going to point you to this article which has different advice to Pasi's (and different to how I would expect). http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/raid/concepts/perfStripe-c.html It actually says that a large stripe size might be better for random transactions on lots of small files (as I would expect from compiling code), because it means you can read a whole small file from each disk in the array - so in your case you'd be able to read 6 files at once (1 from each stripe (3) multiplied by 2 (for the mirrored copies)). If you had a small stripe size, you'd increase the chance that your small file would be split across multiple disks - so you might require more than one disk per file and you wouldn't get 6 concurrent accesses - in your case it might involve up to three drives. A small number of requests for large files might benefit from small stripe sizes, because it would increase the chance that reading your large file involved reads from multiple disks - so you'd get higher throughput. Which is fine for read-only use, while it may hurt your write. Also note that many controllers use the term "raid-10" when they really mean "raid 1+0" which isn't the same at all as Linux software raid-10. As always, "large" and "small" file sizes are subjective terms and there is no substitute for benchmarking your own particular case - and this is a hotly contested subject among Storage gurus! Hell, people can't even agree on what the terms mean, in some cases. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop
Jud Craft wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> One thing I forgot to mention >> >> I prefer to solve problems with standard tools than specialized scripts >> that need to be maintained. >> >> > > I totally agree. But the "FAT32-user limitation" is built into GNOME, > so that's not going away. Besides, the script's two lines. > That is easily solved with the mount options gid and uid. Good luck to you > Thanks to the guy who said check xinitrc.d! I'll give that a shot. > > For the curious, the per-user mount is a shared FAT32 partition, which > contains Documents and Desktop folders for all users. It has to be > remounted per-user to work well under GNOME. > > -- Always there remain portions of our heart into which no one is able to enter, invite them as we may. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
> On 08/21/2009 04:53 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> Until now, kmod-nvidia updates were provided within 24 hours. Did the Nouveau developers complain that updates were coming too soon? Is RPMfusion experiencing problems with akmod-nvidia? :) Or are they plainly >> on strike? I can't find information anywhere. > > This is why kmods are bad. They weren't bad until now. For the last 3-4 kernel updates, which is the time I've been using them, updates came real fast. Then, with 2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64, I decided to give akmod a try, and it was a complete failure. (Of course, that was with my video card, an Asus EN9400GT.) > I still use the "old" DKMS package Now, you tell me that DKMS, which is a less specific tool, would do a better job? > that I > update for newer driver versions only, not kernels. So, if there's a kernel security update, as at least the 2 last updates were, you don't update? > Sure you could use > the akmod package if you want more packages installed but I do not. What does "if you want more packages installed" mean? I just want want my video card to work with the most recent kernel. > File a bug with RPM Fusion as posting here is pointless. Yes, I could register to a non-developer mailing list at RPMfusion, where there's next to nobody, and ask what the hell is going on. But the fact that an update is not issued is not a bug: they might have a problem providing the update. I thought maybe someone here could have an idea of what this problem is. > Demand DKMS while you are at it. Why should I ask DKMS? yum search dkms Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit === Matched: dkms === dkms.noarch : Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework It seems all I have to do is install DKMS. Maybe you could explain what happens afterwards. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Dual Display with Radeon Mobility 7500
On Friday 21 August 2009 18:20:06 William M. Quarles wrote: > I'm trying to set up a spanning desktop on my Dell Latitude C640 laptop, > which has an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics chipset and a Dell 1504FP > LCD monitor in analog (VGA) mode. I use Gnome on Fedora 10. > > I can (sometimes) get the spanning desktop to work using > System/Preferences/Hardware/Screen Resolution from the Gnome menu with > the laptop configured to be on the left, and the external display > configured to be on the right. However, this is actually the opposite of > my physical setup at my desk. Every time that I try to switch the > displays to their actual layout, the desktop still spans, but the > displays are mirrored, which is not only useless, but can also cause > problems, especially when sometimes it results in the display without > the top and bottom bars missing (!). Does anybody know how I can get > this work properly with the laptop on the right and the external monitor > on the left? I would try to do it from the command line first, using xrandr. You can put all desktops left, right, up, down of each other, overlap, rotate, reflect sideways, upside-down, inside-out, and whatnot... When you sort out the options that make it work as you wish, you can put it in ~/.login or /etc/rc.local or whereever... man xrandr HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 08/21/2009 04:53 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Until now, kmod-nvidia updates were provided within 24 hours. Did the Nouveau developers complain that updates were coming too soon? Is RPMfusion experiencing problems with akmod-nvidia? :) Or are they plainly on strike? I can't find information anywhere. This is why kmods are bad. I still use the "old" DKMS package that I update for newer driver versions only, not kernels. Sure you could use the akmod package if you want more packages installed but I do not. File a bug with RPM Fusion as posting here is pointless. Demand DKMS while you are at it. File a bug? Demand? What response time does your support contract promise? -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Steven W. Orr wrote:
> and lsd is left as an exercise for the student. ;-)
Ha! I've had lsa and lsd as simple aliases for ages and always
chuckle about their alternate meanings when I use them (which isn't
all that often, as I trained myself to type the extra ' -{A,d}'
anyway). ;)
Thanks for a combining a handy tip with a good laugh Steven!
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Re: Latest kernel fixes Intel 3D video hangs
On Friday 21 August 2009 21:51:20 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I just installed kernel-2.6.30.5-32.fc11.x86_64 from updates-testing and > find that my favourite 3D app (foobillard) is working again, i.e. the X > server no longer freezes requiring a reboot. This is with Intel 965 > video. I don't know how it affects people using window manager effects, > but they might like to try it. Now this is some encouraging news! :-) And the weekend is just around the corner, I just might try it out! Btw, have you tried anything 3D other than foobillard? Do you use UXA, EXA or XAA acceleration? Any other visible improvement, like absence of random lockups or such? Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflict between packages
On 08/21/2009 01:09 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Should I just wait for a new possible release ? The issue is reported but no work has been done on it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513857 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
On Friday 21 August 2009 19:22:47 Steven W. Orr wrote: [snip] > and lsd is left as an exercise for the student. ;-) ROTFLMAO! Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflict between packages
On 21/08/09 20:24, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:19:16 +0100, Frank wrote: On 21/08/09 19:09, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, THis is the message that I got: est Transaction Errors: file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/25-unhint-nonlatin.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package --snip-- yum --skip-broken Won't help as it only covers the depsolving stage. Above is a conflict that is only discovered during the transaction test. has worked for me where i686 and x86_64 had conflicts, which part of the transfer had no idea. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is RPMfusion on strike?
On 08/21/2009 04:53 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Until now, kmod-nvidia updates were provided within 24 hours. Did the Nouveau developers complain that updates were coming too soon? Is RPMfusion experiencing problems with akmod-nvidia? :) Or are they plainly on strike? I can't find information anywhere. This is why kmods are bad. I still use the "old" DKMS package that I update for newer driver versions only, not kernels. Sure you could use the akmod package if you want more packages installed but I do not. File a bug with RPM Fusion as posting here is pointless. Demand DKMS while you are at it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Latest kernel fixes Intel 3D video hangs
I just installed kernel-2.6.30.5-32.fc11.x86_64 from updates-testing and find that my favourite 3D app (foobillard) is working again, i.e. the X server no longer freezes requiring a reboot. This is with Intel 965 video. I don't know how it affects people using window manager effects, but they might like to try it. Colour me delighted :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Is RPMfusion on strike?
My last kernel was installed on: Aug 17 23:07:07 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64 The last updates for kmod-nvidia were: # 16-Aug-2009: kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64-185.18.14-1.fc11.5.x86_64 # 16-Aug-2009: kmod-nvidia-185.18.14-1.fc11.5.x86_64 http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/11/x86_64/repoview/index.html Until now, kmod-nvidia updates were provided within 24 hours. Did the Nouveau developers complain that updates were coming too soon? Is RPMfusion experiencing problems with akmod-nvidia? :) Or are they plainly on strike? I can't find information anywhere. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ugly panel icon for Firefox
Just one followup to this, and then I'll shut up, I promise. I booted a Fedora 11 LiveCD, did a "yum install thunderbird" and put the launcher on the panel for reference: http://alanevans.org/lists/fedora-list-20090821a.png Then I did "yum update firefox" and suddenly: http://alanevans.org/lists/fedora-list-20090821b.png So I am remembering correctly that the icon used to be nicer. Really. I'm not crazy... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
On 08/21/2009 04:06 PM, ann kok wrote: > Thank you for all help > > I am using fedora 10 > > but ls -z doesn't work to me! He didn't say it existed, he just hypothesized a possible command line option to do what you wanted. B^) -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On 08/21/2009 03:40 PM, David Boles wrote: > On 8/21/2009 1:22 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me >> (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and >> running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to >> work with 3.0b3). I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had >> installed would work with the beta. Are you running any other plugins >> besides the 2 you mentioned? I kinda miss the quote collapse and header >> scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release. > > > Nightly Tester Tools 2.0.2 > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543 > > > will solve your extension problems. :-) Firefox extensions will solve my thunderbird problems? Please elaborate! -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Thank you for all help
I am using fedora 10
but ls -z doesn't work to me!
--- On Fri, 8/21/09, William Case wrote:
> From: William Case
> Subject: Re: list files but not directory
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."
>
> Received: Friday, August 21, 2009, 1:51 PM
> Hi;
>
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 18:12 +0100, Albert Graham wrote:
> > On 08/21/2009 03:35 PM, William Case wrote:
>
> > > Now that I am familiar with 'find' and 'grep'
> etc. I no longer worry
> > > about it. However, 'ls' is probably the
> first commandline command a
> > > beginner learns. It seems illogical, that
> 'ls' wouldn't have a flag
> > > that just shows files when it has a flag for
> directories. It can cost
> > > newbies hours looking for a solution that isn't
> there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Couldn't the shell maintainers just add an
> appropriate flag to show
> > > files only?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > It would probably be easier to hack the ls source and
> extend the -A
> > functionality.
>
> Perhaps. But in the end, it is not something I NEED
> now. But when I
> read the original post I thought back to my first days
> using Linux. It
> was a chore figuring out what the color code for files etc.
> meant, or
> what the identifying symbols where for etc. when all I
> wanted was to see
> if my disappearing file was in which directory. It
> was, to say the
> least, unnecessarily frustrating at the time.
>
> A clean uncomplicated list of files would have been useful
> back then.
>
> I would think something like the following would be
> useful:
>
> ]$ ls -z would show a list of just the files in the current
> directory
> similar to the way 'ls' shows an unadorned list of
> directory contents.
>
> ('-z' is not a good mnemonic choice for "files" but seems
> to be
> available as an option/flag.)
>
> -z should have the property of being able to combine with
> other ls
> options
>
> eg
> ]$ ls -za -- to show dot files as well, or,
> ]$ ls -zl -- to show long list format of just files, or,
> ]$ ls -zlA /some/other/directory's/files/ -- to show long
> list format of
> all files in a directory other than the current directory.
>
> Without hacking ls -A, but by writing "alias lsf='ls
> -hl | grep ^-'" to
> bashrc, lsf works well enough for the current
> directory. I still think
> an addition to the options available in 'ls' would be
> helpful.
>
> I am just wondering if this has been requested before or if
> this is a
> request for enhancement that would not be entertained by
> the maintainers
> of coreutils.
>
>
> --
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A good desktop Wi-Fi card for Fedora 10
Does anybody know of a good desktop PCI wireless ethernet card that I can buy and use with Fedora 10? I bought a new OEM HP Atheros-based wireless card, but it conflicts with my Sigma Designs REALMagic Hollywood Plus DVD/MPEG-2 decoder card, both in Windows XP Pro and in Fedora 10. Also, since I am trying to do a dual-boot setup, I couldn't get good drivers for Windows XP for the card. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
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Re: list files but not directory
On 08/21/09 10:35, quoth William Case:
> Hi;
>
>> Seems like a very reasonable request and its a shame that ls does not
>> provide such an option (which I guess would be an extension to the -A
>> option)
>>
>
> I remember asking about this four or five years ago when I first started
> using Linux (RedHat). (It was the first question I asked on the users
> mailing list.)
>
> Now that I am familiar with 'find' and 'grep' etc. I no longer worry about
> it. However, 'ls' is probably the first commandline command a beginner
> learns. It seems illogical, that 'ls' wouldn't have a flag that just shows
> files when it has a flag for directories. It can cost newbies hours
> looking for a solution that isn't there.
>
> Couldn't the shell maintainers just add an appropriate flag to show files
> only?
My take is that the ls command is already so heavily loaded with options that
you're better off rolling your own. For example, let's beuild two new
commands. lsd and lsD. lsd will only list directories and lsD will only list
nondirectories.
lsD ()
{
typeset args1="$1"
typeset args2="$2"
ls -la $args1 | awk '!/^d/ {print $9}' | xargs ls $args2
}
Now you can try things like
lsd '-d x*' -l
and lsd is left as an exercise for the student. ;-)
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Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On 8/21/2009 1:22 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 08/21/2009 07:30 AM, mike cloaked wrote: >> Ed Greshko wrote: >> You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right? I >> don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able >> to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas. >> ... [show rest of quote] >> >> When I originally installed F11 I then also installed the two >> additional packages from the Fedora updates via yum - since then I >> have just updated as normal and the packages remain in place. >> >> Lightning is installed with: >> yum install thunderbird-lightning which is in updates >> and enigmail via: >> yum install thunderbird-enigmail and this is in rpmfusion >> >> I know that the latter is not strictly directly supported by Fedora - >> but that was why I asked the question - if others are seeing this >> issue but who have not installed the latter then this implies there is >> a problem with thunderbird itself but I don't know the answer to this >> yet? > > Mike, > I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me > (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and > running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to > work with 3.0b3). I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had > installed would work with the beta. Are you running any other plugins > besides the 2 you mentioned? I kinda miss the quote collapse and header > scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release. Nightly Tester Tools 2.0.2 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6543 will solve your extension problems. :-) -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > > > Mike, > I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me > (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and > running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to > work with 3.0b3). I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had > installed would work with the beta. Are you running any other plugins > besides the 2 you mentioned? I kinda miss the quote collapse and header > scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release. > > Those are the only two extensions I have - and I put in an upstream bz at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511886 I am connecting to an external imap server as well as a local dovecot server in the same machine (localhost)... and I don't know if that is important or not - but it would be nice to be able to isolate the cause of this problem - there is another thread in Fedora List where others have reported the same issue - comparison of the different setups where these high CPU loads occue and do not would perhaps indicate the place to look for what drives this issue. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Thunderbird-does-not-shutdown-properly-in-F11--tp25075232p25086002.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflict between packages
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:19:16 +0100, Frank wrote: > On 21/08/09 19:09, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > > > THis is the message that I got: > > > > est Transaction Errors: file > > /etc/fonts/conf.avail/25-unhint-nonlatin.conf from install of > > fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package > > --snip-- > > yum --skip-broken Won't help as it only covers the depsolving stage. Above is a conflict that is only discovered during the transaction test. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [PSA] ATI Catalyst 9.8 fglrx driver
followed these... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=228689 been stable for a few hours now... http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_6f4406e7-1e98-4f6a-afe9-271be0eac2d8 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M76XT [Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT] glxgears runs at ~7100fps in kwin... didn't see anything on the list about it... cheers paul Will it be available in repos (rpmfusion) for f11? -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3.0b3 update changes
On 15.08.2009 22:29, Christoph A. wrote: > On thunderbird 3.0b2 it was possible to hide some informations in the > bar which resides on top of the message - this made this bar much > smaller and left more space for the messagebox it self. > It seams that button/feature has been removed..? in case someone is wondering why the compact header view was removed from the core (and is now an extension): http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/dmose/archives/2009/06/thunderbird_compact_header_mov.html kind regards, Christoph A. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Re: Unable to kill runaway app. -
Rick Stevens wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: Todd Denniston wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: I've added the option soft to the client /etc/fstab which may make it possible to interrupt things? That is, if I have done the right thing in the right place. Bob Assuming that after you reboot[1], the situation is better with soft, I would suggest going back to hard but use the intr[2] option. i.e. server:/usr/local/pub/pub nfshard,intr I have seen soft loose data on networks that are some what loaded, with out even giving you any error notifications. The probability seemed somewhat proportional with how many times larger the file you are writing is than the wsize parameter. It's "lose" (as in "lost") not "loose" (as in "running wild"). English lessons aside, I sometimes dislike my 'mother' tongue. did you use TCP instead of the default UDP on that heavily loaded network? was not available on the server of that time (Solaris 2.6 or was it 2.5). [1] so that the process that is currently stuck and CAN NOT be killed is finally terminated. :) [2] man nfs|grep -3 EINTR or read the man and search for intr -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Live TV Playback is too slow on Fedora 11 + mythtv-0.21-211
Hello guys, I installed mythtv-0.21 from atrpms and I have DVB-T card WinTV Nova-T USB2 and motherboard Jetway J7F2WE2G (CPU is VIA C7 2Ghz). My problem is when I try to watch live tv, the picture is not smooth, it is looks like slow motion. However when I tried to watch it in Kaffeine it was OK. Also when watchiing Mythtv, CPU is loaded at about 50% so I believe it has some spare power. Did anybody experience similar problem with mythtv? Also my chipset is supposed to support mpeg-2 decompression - does anybody know how can I check hardware decompression is used when playing TV? (I know my WinTV card does not support hardware compression so this has to be done by CPU). My Device section in xorg.conf looks like: Section "Device" Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Option "EnableAGPDMA" "true" Option "ExaScratchSize""8192" Option "MaxDRIMem" "16384" Option "MigrationHeuristic""greedy" Option "ExaNoComposite" "True" Option "VideoOverlay" "on" #Option "VBEModes" "true" #This is causing X11 to crash so I cannot enable it Identifier "Card0" Driver "openchrome" VendorName "Unknown Vendor" BoardName "Unknown Board" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Thank you very much in advance, Jan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora And Virtualization
http://communities.vmware.com/message/1333755#1333755 read this thread if running vmplayer or vmware. i got it to work. down side is once you get it working the upgrades to the kernel have to be suspended -- not so good from a security point of view -- but helps if you have 10 or 20 desktops running vmplayer/winXP. virt-manager and qemu-kvm are nice, but found issues moving a virt image from machine to machine (help woud be great), I'd like to drop vmware if i could. -- gary On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Wendell Nichols wrote: > Gene Poole wrote: >> If I plan to run VMware Servers on a Fedora 11 machine, is it good >> practice to install the virtual kernel? >> >> Thanks, >> Gene Poole > > You will find that the vmware setup script will not run on Fedora 11 > because some of the kernel header's have changed. It works in Fc10, not > 11. There are some people advertising patches, but they look shaky. > Vmware will likely update vmware server, but for now I would avoid it in > fc11. > wcn > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
System lock up firefox and ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955
Seamonkey works but Firefox triggers a system lockup. Is this old news or am I the only one. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) $ uname -a Linux hplaptop 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 01:07:59 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux HP Pavilion zv6000 $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 47 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1000.000 -- NiftyFedora T o m M i t c h e l l -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anaconda problem with sata drives
--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Mick M. wrote: > Hi; > > OK so Newegg had a sale on Samsung sata drives so I bought > 2. > I planned to use the raid connectors and run F11 on them. > > I installed the drives and created a raid 1 in the BIOS. > Then I installed F11 with updates onto it. > > It would not boot. > I selected it in the BIOS as first boot, but grub wanted a > BIOS disk ID. > When the system boots the raid is not shown in the sata/ide > first screen. > > I fought it for a long time and even re-installed. > Finally I gave up. > I went into the BIOS and cleared the raid so it was JBOD. > Then I put the drives onto the "normal" sata connectors and > disabled the raid sata. > > I was able to fdisk and format both drives just fine. > One as data and one for F11 /boot ext3 swap / as ext4. > > When I try to insstall F11 it cannot see the drive,at the > partitioning screen. > > I get an OK box: > "An error has occurred - no valid devices were found on > which to create new file systems. > Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem" > > I then installed Mint linux, and F10 to the drive just > fine > F11 refuses to install. > > I tried "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" with no change. > > While the installer is hanging I can Ctl-Alt-F2 and "fdisk > -l" > It sees the drive just fine, Ctl-Alt-F^ to the installer > and it dies. > > > Any ideas? > To clarify: Both new drives are now installed as regular sata drives. Both work fine under F11, are seen in fdisk and act normally. They are both seen in the BIOS boot menu. However they are NOT seen by anaconda during install. It just shows the drive with F11 on it, all are sata. I tried "linux nodmraid" still failed. I get as far as the partitioning screen, after root password. No matter what I choose (normally "custom"), it fails to see them. I can and have installed F10 on one of them just fine. F11 and F12-alpha fail. Any ideas? Mick M. Standard guarantee applies - 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflict between packages
On 21/08/09 19:09, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, THis is the message that I got: est Transaction Errors: file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/25-unhint-nonlatin.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package --snip-- yum --skip-broken -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
conflict between packages
Hello, THis is the message that I got: est Transaction Errors: file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/25-unhint-nonlatin.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1.fc11.i586 file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/30-metric-aliases.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1.fc11.i586 file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/30-urw-aliases.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1.fc11.i586 file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/45-latin.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1.fc11.i586 file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/60-latin.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090508-1.fc11.i586 file /etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-fonts-persian.conf from install of fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from packag... Should I just wait for a new possible release ? Thank. -- --- == Patrick DUPRÉ | | Department of Chemistry| |Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | |Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | |email: pd...@york.ac.uk ==-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Pam configuration with ldap root user
hi everyone, I hope someone can help me on this... I modify the pam configuration today to accept connection from a user with uid&gid = 0. In /etc/pam.d/system-auth previously have this lines : ### authrequired pam_env.so authsufficientpam_unix.so nullok try_first_pass authrequisite pam_succeed_if.so uid >= 500 quiet authsufficientpam_ldap.so use_first_pass authrequired pam_deny.so account required pam_unix.so broken_shadow account sufficientpam_succeed_if.so uid < 500 quiet account [default=bad success=ok user_unknown=ignore] pam_ldap.so account required pam_permit.so passwordrequisite pam_cracklib.so try_first_pass retry=3 passwordsufficientpam_unix.so sha512 shadow nullok try_first_pass use_authtok passwordsufficientpam_ldap.so use_authtok passwordrequired pam_deny.so session optional pam_keyinit.so revoke session required pam_limits.so session [success=1 default=ignore] pam_succeed_if.so service in crond quiet use_uid session required pam_unix.so session optional pam_ldap.so ### and i modify the auth part to : authrequired pam_env.so authsufficientpam_unix.so nullok try_first_pass authsufficient pam_succeed_if.so uid = 0 authrequisite pam_succeed_if.so uid >= 500 quiet authsufficientpam_ldap.so use_first_pass authrequired pam_deny.so I'm not sure about the consequences of this modifications. But tell me if i'm wrong, but a) the 3rd line "auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so uid = 0" permit user with uid lower than 0 to authenticate against the system and log it b) the 4th line permit login to user with uid more than 500. do not log it AND if any of other auth "method" have failed it return it to the pgm making the call to pam. right ? Thanks for your help. -- Guillaume -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Hi;
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 18:12 +0100, Albert Graham wrote:
> On 08/21/2009 03:35 PM, William Case wrote:
> > Now that I am familiar with 'find' and 'grep' etc. I no longer worry
> > about it. However, 'ls' is probably the first commandline command a
> > beginner learns. It seems illogical, that 'ls' wouldn't have a flag
> > that just shows files when it has a flag for directories. It can cost
> > newbies hours looking for a solution that isn't there.
> >
> >
> > Couldn't the shell maintainers just add an appropriate flag to show
> > files only?
> >
> >
>
> It would probably be easier to hack the ls source and extend the -A
> functionality.
Perhaps. But in the end, it is not something I NEED now. But when I
read the original post I thought back to my first days using Linux. It
was a chore figuring out what the color code for files etc. meant, or
what the identifying symbols where for etc. when all I wanted was to see
if my disappearing file was in which directory. It was, to say the
least, unnecessarily frustrating at the time.
A clean uncomplicated list of files would have been useful back then.
I would think something like the following would be useful:
]$ ls -z would show a list of just the files in the current directory
similar to the way 'ls' shows an unadorned list of directory contents.
('-z' is not a good mnemonic choice for "files" but seems to be
available as an option/flag.)
-z should have the property of being able to combine with other ls
options
eg
]$ ls -za -- to show dot files as well, or,
]$ ls -zl -- to show long list format of just files, or,
]$ ls -zlA /some/other/directory's/files/ -- to show long list format of
all files in a directory other than the current directory.
Without hacking ls -A, but by writing "alias lsf='ls -hl | grep ^-'" to
bashrc, lsf works well enough for the current directory. I still think
an addition to the options available in 'ls' would be helpful.
I am just wondering if this has been requested before or if this is a
request for enhancement that would not be entertained by the maintainers
of coreutils.
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Ugly panel icon for Firefox
A recent (last month or so) update changed the launch icon for Firefox in my panel. Whereas it was smaller and sharper looking, now it's larger and, subjectively, uglier. I put a screenshot here: http://alanevans.org/lists/fedora-list-20090821.png I distinctly recall that the icon used to be smaller and sharper looking, much like the Thunderbird icon beside it. Now it just looks oversized for my panel and out of place. The same ugly icon appears on my recently fresh-installed and fully updated F11 machine at home. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[PSA] ATI Catalyst 9.8 fglrx driver
followed these... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=228689 been stable for a few hours now... http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_6f4406e7-1e98-4f6a-afe9-271be0eac2d8 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M76XT [Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT] glxgears runs at ~7100fps in kwin... didn't see anything on the list about it... cheers paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: plotting large datasets
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 06:10pm on Friday, August 21, 2009 (UK time), DJ Delorie scrawled: > >> I've got a need to plot "value vs time" data for 32 channels >> simultaneously. Gnuplot isn't up to the task (not enough uniqueness, >> even mixing lines and points, or control - the graph is just a mess). >> What else is there? > > I use RRDtool. > > Steve > Have you tried with R (http://www.r-project.org)? It is very powerful and IMO easy to use. Also there are a lot of packages. See at http://cran.r-project.org Another powerful tool for charting is GLE (http://www.gle-graphics.org/) -- Marco -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On 08/21/2009 07:30 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right? I > don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able > to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas. > ... [show rest of quote] > > When I originally installed F11 I then also installed the two > additional packages from the Fedora updates via yum - since then I > have just updated as normal and the packages remain in place. > > Lightning is installed with: > yum install thunderbird-lightning which is in updates > and enigmail via: > yum install thunderbird-enigmail and this is in rpmfusion > > I know that the latter is not strictly directly supported by Fedora - > but that was why I asked the question - if others are seeing this > issue but who have not installed the latter then this implies there is > a problem with thunderbird itself but I don't know the answer to this > yet? Mike, I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and running both lightning and enigmail (which were both just re-released to work with 3.0b3). I kinda wish more of the other plugins I had installed would work with the beta. Are you running any other plugins besides the 2 you mentioned? I kinda miss the quote collapse and header scroll extensions which aren't compatible with the beta release. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problems with Dual Display with Radeon Mobility 7500
I'm trying to set up a spanning desktop on my Dell Latitude C640 laptop, which has an ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 graphics chipset and a Dell 1504FP LCD monitor in analog (VGA) mode. I use Gnome on Fedora 10. I can (sometimes) get the spanning desktop to work using System/Preferences/Hardware/Screen Resolution from the Gnome menu with the laptop configured to be on the left, and the external display configured to be on the right. However, this is actually the opposite of my physical setup at my desk. Every time that I try to switch the displays to their actual layout, the desktop still spans, but the displays are mirrored, which is not only useless, but can also cause problems, especially when sometimes it results in the display without the top and bottom bars missing (!). Does anybody know how I can get this work properly with the laptop on the right and the external monitor on the left? Thanks, William -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: plotting large datasets
Around 06:10pm on Friday, August 21, 2009 (UK time), DJ Delorie scrawled: > I've got a need to plot "value vs time" data for 32 channels > simultaneously. Gnuplot isn't up to the task (not enough uniqueness, > even mixing lines and points, or control - the graph is just a mess). > What else is there? I use RRDtool. Steve -- (o< www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message 18:16:12 up 1 day, 23:39, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.05 pgpnkicHyeS8s.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
On 08/21/2009 03:35 PM, William Case wrote: Hi; On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 13:36 +0100, Albert Graham wrote: On 08/21/2009 12:58 PM, ann kok wrote: Hi any way to list files but not directory Thank you __ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ Seems like a very reasonable request and its a shame that ls does not provide such an option (which I guess would be an extension to the -A option) I remember asking about this four or five years ago when I first started using Linux (RedHat). (It was the first question I asked on the users mailing list.) Now that I am familiar with 'find' and 'grep' etc. I no longer worry about it. However, 'ls' is probably the first commandline command a beginner learns. It seems illogical, that 'ls' wouldn't have a flag that just shows files when it has a flag for directories. It can cost newbies hours looking for a solution that isn't there. Couldn't the shell maintainers just add an appropriate flag to show files only? It would probably be easier to hack the ls source and extend the -A functionality. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
plotting large datasets
I've got a need to plot "value vs time" data for 32 channels simultaneously. Gnuplot isn't up to the task (not enough uniqueness, even mixing lines and points, or control - the graph is just a mess). What else is there? Ideally, I'd like something I can interact with - enable/disable channels, highlight channels, change the time range, etc. The data comes from processed log files, so either file or API input is OK. Ideas? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update failure
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:58:21 -0700 (PDT), Mike wrote: > > > > Kevin Kempter-4 wrote: > > > > > > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > > ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems > > --> Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package > > ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) > > Error: Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package > > ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) > > You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > > You could try running: package-cleanup --problems > > package-cleanup --dupes > > rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest > > > > > > Would this be a simple matter of waiting for the updates to propagate to > > the > > repo servers or might this be something else wrong? > > > > > > Yeah - will be a packing error - either wait it out or do: > yum update --skip-broken More communication/collaboration problems. A ktorrent update has been marked stable with the KDE4 packages still being test-updates. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-8597 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-8370 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > One thing I forgot to mention > > I prefer to solve problems with standard tools than specialized scripts > that need to be maintained. > I totally agree. But the "FAT32-user limitation" is built into GNOME, so that's not going away. Besides, the script's two lines. Thanks to the guy who said check xinitrc.d! I'll give that a shot. For the curious, the per-user mount is a shared FAT32 partition, which contains Documents and Desktop folders for all users. It has to be remounted per-user to work well under GNOME. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update failure
Kevin Kempter-4 wrote: > > > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems > --> Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package > ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) > Error: Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package > ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) > You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > You could try running: package-cleanup --problems > package-cleanup --dupes > rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest > > > Would this be a simple matter of waiting for the updates to propagate to > the > repo servers or might this be something else wrong? > > Yeah - will be a packing error - either wait it out or do: yum update --skip-broken -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/yum-update-failure-tp25083083p25083627.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Unable to kill runaway app. -
Todd Denniston wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: I've added the option soft to the client /etc/fstab which may make it possible to interrupt things? That is, if I have done the right thing in the right place. Bob Assuming that after you reboot[1], the situation is better with soft, I would suggest going back to hard but use the intr[2] option. i.e. server:/usr/local/pub/pub nfshard,intr I have seen soft loose data on networks that are some what loaded, with out even giving you any error notifications. The probability seemed somewhat proportional with how many times larger the file you are writing is than the wsize parameter. It's "lose" (as in "lost") not "loose" (as in "running wild"). English lessons aside, did you use TCP instead of the default UDP on that heavily loaded network? [1] so that the process that is currently stuck and CAN NOT be killed is finally terminated. :) [2] man nfs|grep -3 EINTR or read the man and search for intr -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "lousy hunter" - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum update failure
Hi all; Tried to update today and I get this: --> Finished Dependency Resolution ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 from updates has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency: kdelibs4(x86-64) >= 4.3.00 is needed by package ktorrent-3.2.3-1.fc10.x86_64 (updates) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest Would this be a simple matter of waiting for the updates to propagate to the repo servers or might this be something else wrong? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop
One thing I forgot to mention I prefer to solve problems with standard tools than specialized scripts that need to be maintained. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dnsmasq starts even though it is disabled
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:32:35 -0700 Markus Kesaromous wrote: > How do I prevent it from being started? Are you running the libvirtd service? I think it may start dnsmasq for use in its default virtual network scheme. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:39:17 -0400 Jud Craft wrote: > Doing a simple script that does "umount" followed by "mount" > accomplishes this nicely. I just need to make the script run before > Nautilus so it doesn't freak out if the XDG Desktop directory changes. One of the places where scripts get run (maybe even gnome-session gets run) is in the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ directory. In fact I see a script in there named xdg-user-dirs.sh - I wonder if there is already some mechanism in place for what you want if only it was documented somewhere? :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop
Jud Craft wrote: > I don't think Fedora comes with auto-fs built in, does it? > Yes, it is available "yum install autofs". The rest of you post indicates that you want to do more/less/different things than what you stated earlier as simply mounting a drive that contains your Desktop directory. And frankly, I don't know all of your requirements. Maybe all of your users run around with their directories on flash drivesI don't know. Anywayyou haven't tried autofs and from what you say below you don't really know how it works...and all the options available and maybe you don't even want to give it a try since you've already decided on a solution. (FWIW, the above doesn't sound good when I read it back...so I hope you don't take offensepast midnight here and too sleepy to change it) > One feature I essentially need is that all my users are in a > mount-group, so they can all unmount the drive. Whenever a user logs > in, I need the drive to be automatically unmounted and then > -remounted- as that user. > > Doing a simple script that does "umount" followed by "mount" > accomplishes this nicely. I just need to make the script run before > Nautilus so it doesn't freak out if the XDG Desktop directory changes. > > I'm not sure auto-fs can be set to "automatically umount the partition > if a different user is logging in and then remount it as that user." > Similar to gnome-automount, I think it just automatically mounts the > partition once, and leaves it mounted under the original user that > mounted it even across sessions. That won't work. > > Key problem is that a lot of GNOME programs won't work with a FAT32 > partition unless it is mounted under the user's name (ex., Trash > functionality, temporary backup files in Text Editor, etc) since FAT32 > doesn't have standard Unix permissions, so GNOME's shortcut is to only > allow functionality for the user who mounted it (not even the group, > but the specific user). > > That's great for a personal flash drive, but not for a shared system > partition that holds documents or temp files. I want that to work > automatically across different accounts on my machine, before startup, > without any user action. So automatically remounting the FAT32 > partition under the current user seems like a good idea. > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Jud Craft wrote: >> >>> It automatically mounts a drive that contains my Desktop directory. >>> Hence, I need it to work before nautilus does. >>> >>> It specifically is a per-user mount, so I can't have it globally >>> automount at computer startup. >>> >>> >>> >> Have you considered using autofs for this? The automount will only >> happen when directory is accessed. >> >> So, something like this should work >> >> In auto.master >> >> /misc /etc/auto.misc >> >> In /etc/auto.misc >> >> Desktop -fstype=auto :/dev/sdc2 (or whatever you need) >> >> And in your home directory make Desktop a symbolic link to /misc/Desktop. >> >> There are probably better ways to construct this with autofsbut I'm >> not giving it too much thought >> >> I've also read where pam can be used for what you want >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >> >> > > -- You have a strong desire for a home and your family interests come first. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop
I don't think Fedora comes with auto-fs built in, does it? One feature I essentially need is that all my users are in a mount-group, so they can all unmount the drive. Whenever a user logs in, I need the drive to be automatically unmounted and then -remounted- as that user. Doing a simple script that does "umount" followed by "mount" accomplishes this nicely. I just need to make the script run before Nautilus so it doesn't freak out if the XDG Desktop directory changes. I'm not sure auto-fs can be set to "automatically umount the partition if a different user is logging in and then remount it as that user." Similar to gnome-automount, I think it just automatically mounts the partition once, and leaves it mounted under the original user that mounted it even across sessions. That won't work. Key problem is that a lot of GNOME programs won't work with a FAT32 partition unless it is mounted under the user's name (ex., Trash functionality, temporary backup files in Text Editor, etc) since FAT32 doesn't have standard Unix permissions, so GNOME's shortcut is to only allow functionality for the user who mounted it (not even the group, but the specific user). That's great for a personal flash drive, but not for a shared system partition that holds documents or temp files. I want that to work automatically across different accounts on my machine, before startup, without any user action. So automatically remounting the FAT32 partition under the current user seems like a good idea. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Jud Craft wrote: >> It automatically mounts a drive that contains my Desktop directory. >> Hence, I need it to work before nautilus does. >> >> It specifically is a per-user mount, so I can't have it globally >> automount at computer startup. >> >> > Have you considered using autofs for this? The automount will only > happen when directory is accessed. > > So, something like this should work > > In auto.master > > /misc /etc/auto.misc > > In /etc/auto.misc > > Desktop -fstype=auto :/dev/sdc2 (or whatever you need) > > And in your home directory make Desktop a symbolic link to /misc/Desktop. > > There are probably better ways to construct this with autofsbut I'm > not giving it too much thought > > I've also read where pam can be used for what you want > > > > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not exiting
Anne Wilson-4 wrote: > > >> I see the same and I am not running x64! > > Forgot to say, mine is not x64 either. > > I have entered an upstream bz at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511886 Feel free to add to it and include as much data as possible maybe also add your strace outputs? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/thunderbird-not-exiting-tp24997333p25082216.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
dnsmasq starts even though it is disabled
On my machine: $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 20 17:37:37 PDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux dnsmasq is always running, even though I have run System -> Administration -> Services and have disabled it. Yet at every reboot it is still running. How do I prevent it from being started? Cheers, MK _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Awardbios virtualisation setting
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 10:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:11:32 +0100 > John Horne wrote: > > > IF I enable the > > setting, save it, and then power off the PC, and then power-on/reboot, > > it seems to work fine (virtualisation is enabled) until the next time I > > reboot the PC. It is then back to being disabled. > > That sounds more like a symptom of the battery on the motherboard > being too weak to keep the settings if power is removed for a while. > You might try replacing it and see if the setting sticks then. > Well it's possible I guess. However, the time between setting virtualization, power-off and reboot is a few seconds. The PC is usually left off overnight, and has no problems the following day with any other BIOS settings. John. -- --- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 E-mail: john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Awardbios virtualisation setting
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:11:32 +0100 John Horne wrote: > IF I enable the > setting, save it, and then power off the PC, and then power-on/reboot, > it seems to work fine (virtualisation is enabled) until the next time I > reboot the PC. It is then back to being disabled. That sounds more like a symptom of the battery on the motherboard being too weak to keep the settings if power is removed for a while. You might try replacing it and see if the setting sticks then. (And why on earth do all BIOSes always want to disable this by default? What on earth would it hurt to have it enabled?) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Hi; On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 13:36 +0100, Albert Graham wrote: > On 08/21/2009 12:58 PM, ann kok wrote: > > Hi > > > > any way to list files but not directory > > > > Thank you > > > > > >__ > > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! > > Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > Seems like a very reasonable request and its a shame that ls does not > provide such an option (which I guess would be an extension to the -A > option) > I remember asking about this four or five years ago when I first started using Linux (RedHat). (It was the first question I asked on the users mailing list.) Now that I am familiar with 'find' and 'grep' etc. I no longer worry about it. However, 'ls' is probably the first commandline command a beginner learns. It seems illogical, that 'ls' wouldn't have a flag that just shows files when it has a flag for directories. It can cost newbies hours looking for a solution that isn't there. Couldn't the shell maintainers just add an appropriate flag to show files only? -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora And Virtualization
Gene Poole wrote: > If I plan to run VMware Servers on a Fedora 11 machine, is it good > practice to install the virtual kernel? > > Thanks, > Gene Poole You will find that the vmware setup script will not run on Fedora 11 because some of the kernel header's have changed. It works in Fc10, not 11. There are some people advertising patches, but they look shaky. Vmware will likely update vmware server, but for now I would avoid it in fc11. wcn -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[OT] Awardbios virtualisation setting
Hello, I have been playing with KVM virtualisation under F11, and it has all worked fine. However, I am having a lot of trouble getting the 'Virtualisation' setting to 'stick' in the BIOS. It seems that by default it is disabled. If I enable it and then save the setting, the PC goes through a reboot, but not power-off, and the setting is disabled again. IF I enable the setting, save it, and then power off the PC, and then power-on/reboot, it seems to work fine (virtualisation is enabled) until the next time I reboot the PC. It is then back to being disabled. Does anyone know how to make the virtualisation setting permanently 'enabled'? It is an abit motherboard (AN-M2; socket AM2), and an AMD Athlon 64-bit X2 (6400 I think; the PC is at home and I'm at work at the moment). The BIOS is phoenix awardbios version 6.01 (again I think). I have checked with the abit web site, and I have the latest BIOS version for this motherboard. Thanks, John. -- --- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 E-mail: john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SMB client issue on F11
I've just done an install of F11 (from DVD) on my eeepc 901. when I click PLACES | NETWORK I get the nautilus file browser but it doesn't find any of the samba shares on my LAN. but if I boot up the live CD of F11, and do the same thing, it does. I'm not sure how to proceed here, can someone suggest what I should look at? Thanks! -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. -- Philippians 4:13 --- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > On Wednesday 19 August 2009 06:43:35 pm Tim wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 16:42 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: >> > and on that point, I've done kernel upgrades to my Centos 5.3 box many >> > times with no reboot. >> >> Do you *just* mean doing a "kernel upgrade" or do you mean an upgrade >> and *using* the new kernel, too? > > yes, both. Last reboot on the old serevr beside me was 148 days ago and three > kernel updates that I recall. > > [r...@cserver ~]# uname -a > Linux cserver.davedomain 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 09:19:18 EDT 2009 > i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > Dave So the kernel you are running was compiled in April (when did you reboot last?). What about the 5 kernels released since Apr? kernel-2.6.18-128.4.1.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.2.1.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.14.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 -- William Hooper -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:08 +0930, Tim wrote: > Tim: > >> Do you *just* mean doing a "kernel upgrade" or do you mean an upgrade > >> and *using* the new kernel, too? > > Dave Stevens: > > yes, both. Last reboot on the old serevr beside me was 148 days ago > > and three kernel updates that I recall. > > Interesting! I didn't know CentOS was able to do that, I'd only seen > discussions about how that sort of thing might be done in Linux, without > a reference to something that actually did it. > > Is the feature standard, or requires special treatment? I'm getting > close to setting up a new box with CentOS for the main server, and > wouldn't mind being able to do that. I'm sure a lot of us would like to know. AFAIK CentOS is based on RHEL and I haven't seen any news of the latter being able to do this. I also see nothing about it on the CentOS website, where I would expect such a major feature to be displayed prominently. Note that ksplice supports CentOS. Is that what we're talking about? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox
thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours. Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the icons in the "write" window i'm typing now in are ok. In FF, there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason, save for the fact they're all PNGs. I thought that it was background images only, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Nor are all PNGs screwed up. I recently installed an LCD display and so modified my xorg.conf. But this problem only just appeared so i doubt it's related. Is anyone else seeing something similar (it's *really* hard to miss). Otherwise, can anyone think of what I can check? Here's the latest from yum.log: Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: gvfs-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:08 Updated: nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:10 Updated: libmtp-0.3.7-2.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-smb-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-obexftp-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-archive-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-gphoto2-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:17 Updated: gdb-6.8.50.20090302-37.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:53 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: 7:squid-3.0.STABLE18-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: m17n-db-1.5.5-1.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:07 Updated: kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:08 Updated: pciutils-devel-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:10 Updated: nss-devel-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:15 Updated: setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.18-5.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:19 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Updated: systemtap-runtime-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:52 Updated: systemtap-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:53 Updated: m17n-lib-1.5.5-1.fc11.i586 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not exiting
On Friday 21 August 2009 13:54:47 Mike Cloaked wrote: > Mail Lists-3 wrote: > > Whenever I quit thunderbird (F11 updated) - screen clears but there > > remains thunderbird-bin process running. To restart TB (not a disease > > coff coff) .. I need to hand killall thunderbird-bin. (x64) > > > > I see same thing on stock mozilla build (32 bit) on F10 as well. > > > > Is this a bug with TB or a bug with gnome or ? > > > > thanks. > > > > gene > > I see the same and I am not running x64! Forgot to say, mine is not x64 either. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Hi any way to list files but not directory Thank you ls -hl | grep ^- -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not exiting
Mail Lists-3 wrote: > > > Whenever I quit thunderbird (F11 updated) - screen clears but there > remains thunderbird-bin process running. To restart TB (not a disease > coff coff) .. I need to hand killall thunderbird-bin. (x64) > > I see same thing on stock mozilla build (32 bit) on F10 as well. > > Is this a bug with TB or a bug with gnome or ? > > thanks. > > gene > > I see the same and I am not running x64! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/thunderbird-not-exiting-tp24997333p25079261.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: More on the Cat with a Twitter account
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 21:34 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > 2009/8/20 Aaron Konstam : > > Spurred on by the touching story of the creation of a Twitter account > > for a cat I indeed found that if firebox was put in Internet Explorer > > mode using the User Agent I could create a Twitter account. > > > > I felt appropriately chastened until this morning when I found that > > firefox pretending to be Internet Explorer could not execute the Twitter > > Search command. What a bummer. So back to Windows I had to go. > > I'm confused. I exclusively use Firefox. I signed up for a Twitter > account about 2 months ago and it was fine. > > I've just gone to twitter.com and clicked the Seach button and it > still works fine - although it does use Javascript to submit the > search. Do you perchance have the NoScript plugin loaded in Firefox? > > -- > Sam > Let us forget about this.. I don't have a NoScript plugin loaded. Why the behavior on my machine is different I can't imagine. I like to be unique but not this unique. For me twitter doesn't completely work in F11. I can deal with it. For example this morning Search works. So it must be a Twitter problem. -- === Bahdges? We don't need no stinkin' bahdges! -- "The Treasure of Sierra Madre" === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
