Re: [Freedos-user] Help linking to Borland Turbo C project to external object file ?
Hi! 21-Фев-2008 23:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Townsend) wrote to Freedos users : ST> We've managed to get Borland Turbo C 2.0 to compile a large model test file ST> without error, but we need to link to an OBJ file provided by the ST> manufacturer of the card. ST> How do we tell the Borland development environemt that we need to link to ST> this OBJ ? If you mean TC IDE, then open Project menu and press F1. Then you will read: " In its simplest form, the project file is just a list of the C source file names that make up your program. " Also, take a look at examples of TC2 - there is, for example, mcalc.prj. ST> We know that the object file contains the externals we need, because if we ST> TLINK to the OBJ at the command line they get resolved, but if we link at ST> the command line, printf and various other parts of the C libraries aren't ST> getting resolved, and just linking to CL.LIB wasn't enough to resolve all ...But if you need command line, just specify required .obj file at TCC command line between source files. For example, read HELPME!.DOC, especially next topic: " Q. Why does the linker tell me that all the graphics library routines are undefined? A. TCC will not search the graphics library unless you tell it to. You should specify the graphics library on the command line. For example, to compile BGIDEMO, type TCC BGIDEMO.C GRAPHICS.LIB " - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] please do never send files to a mailing list
2008/03/21 03:33 +0100, Eric Auer While this is theoretically true, I must say I myself never visit "group webpages" of for example the yahoo lists which I am reading by email. It is just very convenient to get the mail by mail without having to log in somewhere or check some webpage to see whether a new posting has shown up etc ;-). Only-online connection is irritating, although e-mail raises the problem of deleting the irrelevant, or maybe the relevant, too, when one has too much. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] please do never send files to a mailing list
Hi John, > I noticed the remark in the Xen posting, "please do never send files to a > mailing list". I think that this implies the need for a hosted discussion > group arrangement. That will preserve the history of discussions which I > think has benefits for this group. Well there already is an archive for our mailing lists on the web :-) http://www.mail-archive.com/freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=freedos-user > Given a history it would be possible given a really good archive search, > quicker answers to well know questions and associated replies. See above :-). > Threads can have comments added at any time, either immediately > or even years later. You can do the same with email, but if I understand your suggestion correctly, then you introduce the problem that comments would live in www space while the original mails live in email space. So I would say I prefer if people just reply to emails at any time ;-). Using interfaces like nabble allows you to reply even to old archived mails even without you ever having received that mail by mail, I believe? > If something happens to the maintainers such as an injury or worse > other could be found to take their places. It would allow for a > structured organization of question groups. It would not require > each list member to maintain the archive of the questions and replies. All mentioned benefits are available with a normal mailing list and a web archive for it, as the ones we already have :-). > It would also allow relevant files to be stored within the archive. While this is theoretically true, I must say I myself never visit "group webpages" of for example the yahoo lists which I am reading by email. It is just very convenient to get the mail by mail without having to log in somewhere or check some webpage to see whether a new posting has shown up etc ;-). > Does sourceforge.net have this facility or would you have to go > elsewhere to get these features? Actually we already do use this facility, which is another good reason to believe that people do not actually gain from forums: http://www.freedos.org/ Look at the news items and the "read more" links. Each news item starts a thread in a sourceforge forum: This thread http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=789150 for example discusses "new fat32 undelete". Jim posted a comment three weeks ago, but I only noticed this week, by accident, as the comment did not automatically get to my mailbox, as opposed to what a reply to an email would have done ;-). We also have a Wiki, even two of them, a Sourceforge feature request tracking system, Bugzilla bug mgmt system and a FAQ which would work better if more people would notice when a new question has arrived and would help by answering it :-). In addition, you can meet on our IRC (there even is a Java client if you have no IRC). There are several NNTP newsgroups and you can visit the general DOS web forum of Robert :-). There are also several reference sections like LSM package list (versions, maintainers, URLs...) and SVN source code repository with www interface for easy browsing. As you can see: Information sources and places to share your FreeDOS experience with others abound, all over the net... Happy FreeDOS easter everybody! Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] please do never send files to a mailing list
Eric, I noticed the remark in the Xen posting, "please do never send files to a mailing list". I think that this implies the need for a hosted discussion group arrangement. That will preserve the history of discussions which I think has benefits for this group. Given a history it would be possible given a really good archive search, quicker answers to well know questions and associated replies. Threads can have comments added at any time, either immediately or even years later. If something happens to the maintainers such as an injury or worse other could be found to take their places. It would allow for a structured organization of question groups. It would not require each list member to maintain the archive of the questions and replies. It would also allow relevant files to be stored within the archive. Does sourceforge.net have this facility or would you have to go elsewhere to get these features? -- John S. Wolter President Wolter Works Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Desk 1-734-665-1263 Cell: 1-734-904-8433 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Xen-devel] Unable to boot FreeDOS 1.0
Hi ;-) > > Hi Geraldo, please do never send files to a mailing list. > Btw, why? Because the file will be multiplied: Every reader of the list will get a copy of the file, even when he does not want to open the file. This eats space in all mailboxes and bandwidth for the mail servers. Putting files on the WWW and then only give the URL but not the actual file in the email is better, and it will also make list archives happy. While you can read old mailing list emails on many archive homepages, you cannot typically open files which were sent to the mailing list. I would guess this is to avoid eating space and bandwidth ;-). Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Xen-devel] Unable to boot FreeDOS 1.0
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Eric Auer wrote: > Hi Geraldo, please do never send files to a mailing list. Btw, why? > > > Hi Guys, It seems command.com is missing -- D.A. id 0xC4D22CDD fp 8F52 8619 6918 DAE3 5E61 3146 C89F BDB8 C4D2 2CDD - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Xen-devel] Unable to boot FreeDOS 1.0
Hi Geraldo, please do never send files to a mailing list. > Hi Guys, It seems command.com is missing > could you try any iso from this site? > www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/ >> The image shows (why on earth cannot people just cut and >> paste the TEXT when you see text?) the following: e820: 0010 01ef9c00 1 e820: 01ff9c00 2400 2 e820: 01ffd000 3000 2 Ramdisk at 0x1f9c000, length 0x0003c4e4 Moving compressed data from 0x01f9c000 to 0x01f63600 gzip image: decompressed addr 0x01f9c000, len 0x0005a000: ok command line: initrd=data/FDBOOT.IMG BOOT_IMAGE=data/memdisk Disk is floppy, 360 K, C/H/S = 40/2/9 Total size needed = 1436 bytes, allocating 2K Old dos memory at 0x9fc00 (map says 0x9fc00), loading at 0x9f400 1588: 0x7a7f 15E801: 0x3c00 0x00f9 INT 13 08: Success, count = 0, BPT = f000:efdf old: int13 = f000e3fe int15 = f000f859 new: int13 = 9f48 int15 = 9f40027c Loading boot sector... booting... >> what we see until here is isolinux booting memdisk which boots >> a compressed bootable 360k diskette with dos from the cdrom... FreeDOS kernel build 2036 cvs [version Aug 18 2006 compiled Aug 18 2006] Kernel compatibility 7.10 - WATCOMC - 80386 CPU required - FAT32 support >> copyright message about GPL2+ follows... - InitDiskBad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256 Enter the full shell command line: _ >> what you see here is that the FreeDOS kernel tries to boot from >> a disk which it cannot read at all. It does not open config sys, >> it only tries to open command.com because this is the default. >> Either the memdisk failed (int15 ext mem copy problem maybe?) or >> the kernel tries to boot from C: on a system which has no real >> or virtual harddisks visible to DOS (which uses the BIOS) at all. >> You see that InitDisk does not list any partitions, for example. Eric PS: Feel free to forward to other lists. Maybe you can add some spambot protection when mentioning my email addr there, though. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [Xen-devel] Unable to boot FreeDOS 1.0
Hi Guys, It seems command.com is missing could you try any iso from this site? http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/ See Ya, Geraldo ps: sorry for crossposting, at least i hope it helps :) -- São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://extremedev.sf.net msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 On 20/03/2008, Miguel Filho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear list, > > I've tried booting FreeDOS 1.0 with Xen 3.2.0 and with the lastest > 3.2.0-testing (changeset: 16817:d1d4cff0b3e4) without success. Using > Linux 2.6.18.8 available at xen.org. > > - I've checked md5sums and everything is OK. > - I tried with QEMU 0.8, available in Debian 4.0 and it worked fine. > - I've burned the ISO and booted it directly in my machine, it worked too. > > Any idea why is this happening? Error message attached. > > kernel = "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader" > builder='hvm' > memory = 32 > name = "freedos" > pae=0 > acpi=0 > apic=0 > disk = [ 'file:/root/hd.img,ioemu:hda,w', 'phy:/dev/hdc,hdc:cdrom,r' ] > device_model = '/usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-dm' > boot="dc" > sdl=1 > vnc=0 > vncpasswd='' > stdvga=0 > serial='pty' > > Regards, > > > Miguel > > ___ > Xen-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel <>- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] announce: OpenWatcom 1.7a (1.7.1) distributive in.zip archives
Arkady V.Belousov wrote: > Although there is no more official distribution of OpenWatcom as a > collection of .zip archives after OpenWatcom 1.3, you can download OW 1.7a > (1.7.1), and previous releases, as multiple zip files from ibiblio. These > archives are prepared by Arkady Belousov and placed on ibiblio by Jim > Hall. Great to hear that. Thanks for your efforts! :-) Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] announce: OpenWatcom 1.7a (1.7.1) distributive in .zip archives
Hi! http://www.openwatcom.org/index.php/Alternative_Open_Watcom_distribution Although there is no more official distribution of OpenWatcom as a collection of .zip archives after OpenWatcom 1.3, you can download OW 1.7a (1.7.1), and previous releases, as multiple zip files from ibiblio. These archives are prepared by Arkady Belousov and placed on ibiblio by Jim Hall. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/openwatcom/1.7.1/ Here you will find archives with the same layout as the OW 1.3 distribution, including the files license.txt, readme.txt (short introduction) and descript.ion (archives description file, compatible with FAR Manager, NDOS and 4DOS). Note that the either of the official installers (Windows or OS/2) can be unzipped using standard unzip tools. However, this unofficial distribution allows you to download a subset of the original packages which may be easier for people with limited resources (low disk space or slow network links). Important addition into given alternative distribution is CLIB.7Z archive, which includes sources for RTL (Run Time Library), not included into original binary distribution. These sources are invaluable source of information, which complements RTL documentation and may clarify all dark questions, related to RTL. CLIB.7Z archive packed by portable free archiver 7-Zip [http://www.7-zip.org/], this reduces sources size to 800 kb versus 3.4 Mb of zip archive. How might this distribution be useful? Suppose you only need the DOS host and the DOS target. The only components you need are: 1. License and Descriptions, 3 files/~30 kb LICENSE.TXT README.TXT DESCRIPT.ION 2. Base package, 6 archives/~2.6 Mb CM_CORE_ALL.ZIP CM_CORE_DOS.ZIP CM_CORE_DOSWIN.ZIP CORE_ALL.ZIPCORE_DOSWIN.ZIP C_DOSWIN.ZIP 3. C++ addition to base package, 1 archive/~1.3 Mb CPP_DOSWIN.ZIP 4. DOS extenders (may be downloaded all, one or nothing), 4 archives/~700 kb EXT_CAUSEWAY.ZIP EXT_DOS32A.ZIP EXT_DOS4GW.ZIP EXT_PMODEW.ZIP 5. Debugger, 5 archives/~960 kb CM_DBG_ALL.ZIP CM_DBG_DOS.ZIP CM_DBG_DOSWIN.ZIP CM_DBG_DOSOS2.ZIP CM_DBG_MISC1.ZIP 6. C RTL (standard headers and libraries), 5 archives/~1.7 Mb CM_CLIB_HDR.ZIP CM_CLIB_A16.ZIP CLIB_A16.ZIP CM_CLIB_D16.ZIP CLIB_D16.ZIP 7. C RTL for DOS extenders, 2 archives/~620 kb CM_CLIB_A32.ZIP CM_CLIB_D32.ZIP 8. C++ RTL, 3 archives/~1.1 Mb PLIB_HDR.ZIP CM_PLIB_A16.ZIP PLIB_A16.ZIP 9. C++ RTL for DOS extenders, 2 archives/~690 kb CM_PLIB_A32.ZIP PLIB_A32.ZIP 10. Help files, 2 archives/~2.1 Мb CM_HLP_DOS.ZIP HLP_DOS.ZIP 11. IDE, help and samples for IDE, 3 archives/~610 kb CM_IDE_ALL.ZIP CM_IDE_DOS.ZIP IDE_SAMPLES.ZIP 12. Examples and RTL sources, 5 archives/~1.3 Mb CM_SAMPLES.ZIP CLIB_SAMPLES.ZIP PLIB_SAMPLES.ZIP MISC_SRC.ZIP CLIB.7Z The total is only 41 files, or 14 Mb. There is also a minimal set (only C, no C++ / help / samples / debugger), which includes sets [2] and [6] above, consisting of 11 files, or ~4.4 Mb. Now compare this with original monolithic distribution size (62 Mb). PS: NASM (Netwide assembler) [http://nasm.sf.net/] development was unfrozen and recently was released NASM 2.02. PPS: FASM (flat assembler) [http://flatassembler.net/] is also evolved and latest edition is 1.67.26. PPPS: Japheth forks OpenWatcom WASM [http://www.japheth.de/wasm.html] and made some bugfixes and enhancements. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Arachne GPL 1.93;GPL has been updated
Ok, but contineu to remain this bugs: - disk greather then >2.04 Gb are not recognized correctly (error read disk size..) - arachne don't support DOSLFN (via doslfn drivers or directly via kernel like datalight dos) - js script capabilty by werner are not insert in core ? the planned support of SHTPS and js are stopped? Thanks for reply roberto Florian Xaver-2 wrote: > > Hi, > > download it from http://cisnet.com/glennmcc/a193gpl/! Updated files > only are available here: > http://cisnet.com/glennmcc/a193gpl/a193upd.zip > > What has been changed? > > * new core.exe > * new entity.cfg > * new proportional fonts > * new fontinfo.bin > > A "font-test" can be found here: > http://cisnet.com/glennmcc/ara-gpl/oelig.htm > > If you need more info about Arachne and the current status, (maybe) > you will want to read > http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Browsers. > > Bye > Flo > -- > http://www.flox.at.tf - neu: Erasmusblog von Madrid > Club Dr-DOS Wiki http://www.drdos.org > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Arachne-GPL-1.93-GPL-has-been-updated-tp16151124p16173518.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user