Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU socket and picking a heat sink.
John Campbell wrote: On 12/03/2010 05:38 PM, Dale wrote: masterprometheus wrote: Thanks for confirming that the coolers will fit. I did some googling but it just wasn't making sense to me yet. I found a site later on that said most coolers used different adapters to work with different sockets if needed. That helped me figure out some of it. Picking another mobo was a good idea. I actually ended up picking this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675 That's a black-box CPU, not OEM. It includes a heatsink/fan. As far as I known, AMD heatsinks are fine for normal usage. You're not getting a high-end board so I assume you're not trying to tax the hell out of the CPU. You should be fine with that. I run folding in the winter so I will be running the heck out of the CPU at least. ;-) Folding helps heat the place up a little bit. I couldn't find a OEM version of that CPU tho. I used the list of supported CPU's from Gigabytes site. That is a GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 which is a bit better. I'll have to figure out a way to get my UPS, which uses a serial port, to work but I *think* I still have a serial to USB adapter around here somewhere. I'm going to have to cross that bridge one of these days. I have the AMD2+ version of that motherboard and it has a legacy serial header just like it has a legacy floppy connector. You just need to get a cable. Looking at the picture on NewEgg there seems to be a COMMA plug in the upper right corner of the motherboard. You'd need to pull the manual from Gigabyte to be sure. Thanks for that. I'll look into that when I get it in. I usually go over a new mobo with a magnifying glass anyway to see what all is on there. They always have that disclaimer that products are subject to change ya know. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: CPU socket and picking a heat sink.
Dale wrote: Hi, Doing some research on building me a new rig. I have ran into sort of a hick up. The socket types are confusing me here. This is the mobo that I *might* be getting. http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspecmaincat_no=1cat2_no=171cat3_no=prod_no=1856 If that link don't work, it is a MSI 790XT-G45 mobo. I do most of my shopping on newegg and was looking for a CPU heat sink to go on that bad boy. The MSI website says AM2+. When I start to looking on newegg, there are several sockets that have AM2+ in it. My question is, which is which or will any of them fit? The CPU I am looking at is a AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz and it says it is a AM2+ as well. I assume that will fit the mobo? ;-) It doesn't come with a cooler tho. I may end up picking something else for the mobo and CPU but I do want to figure out what the differences are between these socket types and what fits what. Explanations are good and links are good too. Pictures may even be better. lol Yes all HSF for AM2/AM2+/AM3 should work with your CPU. A good one (price/performance) would be this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 But may I suggest that you buy another mobo. It's not that cheap and lack some features : 1. It utilizes DDR2. I think you want this to get that OEM AMD CPU but it's not worth in my opinion. DDR2 modules are generally more expensive than DDR3 ones and will be more so in future. 2. No USB 3 ports. May not be that important but it's available already in most motherboards. 3. No SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. No big deal in general but might become important if you buy a high performance solid state disk. 4. No e-sata port. A few options for you : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157197 (no 6Gb/s and only 1 USB 3 port but very inexpensive) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660 (no 6Gb/s, no e-sata, VIA audio codec, but 2 usb 3 ports) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157192 (VIA audio codec, only 1 USB 3 port, up to 2 firewire port, 1 e-sata 6Gb/s, all the features, good price) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130269 (everything right and better components, a little expensive of course) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435 (great layout, high quality components, lacks e-sata though, but lots of expansion slots, expensive of course but a great one) Good luck
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU socket and picking a heat sink.
masterprometheus wrote: Dale wrote: Hi, Doing some research on building me a new rig. I have ran into sort of a hick up. The socket types are confusing me here. This is the mobo that I *might* be getting. http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=prodmbspecmaincat_no=1cat2_no=171cat3_no=prod_no=1856 If that link don't work, it is a MSI 790XT-G45 mobo. I do most of my shopping on newegg and was looking for a CPU heat sink to go on that bad boy. The MSI website says AM2+. When I start to looking on newegg, there are several sockets that have AM2+ in it. My question is, which is which or will any of them fit? The CPU I am looking at is a AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz and it says it is a AM2+ as well. I assume that will fit the mobo? ;-) It doesn't come with a cooler tho. I may end up picking something else for the mobo and CPU but I do want to figure out what the differences are between these socket types and what fits what. Explanations are good and links are good too. Pictures may even be better. lol Yes all HSF for AM2/AM2+/AM3 should work with your CPU. A good one (price/performance) would be this one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 But may I suggest that you buy another mobo. It's not that cheap and lack some features : 1. It utilizes DDR2. I think you want this to get that OEM AMD CPU but it's not worth in my opinion. DDR2 modules are generally more expensive than DDR3 ones and will be more so in future. 2. No USB 3 ports. May not be that important but it's available already in most motherboards. 3. No SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. No big deal in general but might become important if you buy a high performance solid state disk. 4. No e-sata port. A few options for you : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157197 (no 6Gb/s and only 1 USB 3 port but very inexpensive) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660 (no 6Gb/s, no e-sata, VIA audio codec, but 2 usb 3 ports) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157192 (VIA audio codec, only 1 USB 3 port, up to 2 firewire port, 1 e-sata 6Gb/s, all the features, good price) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130269 (everything right and better components, a little expensive of course) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435 (great layout, high quality components, lacks e-sata though, but lots of expansion slots, expensive of course but a great one) Good luck Thanks for confirming that the coolers will fit. I did some googling but it just wasn't making sense to me yet. I found a site later on that said most coolers used different adapters to work with different sockets if needed. That helped me figure out some of it. Picking another mobo was a good idea. I actually ended up picking this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675 That is a GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 which is a bit better. I'll have to figure out a way to get my UPS, which uses a serial port, to work but I *think* I still have a serial to USB adapter around here somewhere. I'm going to have to cross that bridge one of these days. This mobo is not as new as the Gigabyte you linked to but the one I posted above is in my budget. I actually blew my budget and may end up spending a little more than planed. I forgot the the new way for drives is to use SATA instead of IDE. I had to add a DVD burner that was SATA and also had to get some Artic Silver since I can't find my other tube from years ago. I'll take the opportunity to say this again. The new Cooler Master case is HUGE. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU socket and picking a heat sink.
On 12/03/2010 05:38 PM, Dale wrote: masterprometheus wrote: Thanks for confirming that the coolers will fit. I did some googling but it just wasn't making sense to me yet. I found a site later on that said most coolers used different adapters to work with different sockets if needed. That helped me figure out some of it. Picking another mobo was a good idea. I actually ended up picking this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675 That's a black-box CPU, not OEM. It includes a heatsink/fan. As far as I known, AMD heatsinks are fine for normal usage. You're not getting a high-end board so I assume you're not trying to tax the hell out of the CPU. You should be fine with that. That is a GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 which is a bit better. I'll have to figure out a way to get my UPS, which uses a serial port, to work but I *think* I still have a serial to USB adapter around here somewhere. I'm going to have to cross that bridge one of these days. I have the AMD2+ version of that motherboard and it has a legacy serial header just like it has a legacy floppy connector. You just need to get a cable. Looking at the picture on NewEgg there seems to be a COMMA plug in the upper right corner of the motherboard. You'd need to pull the manual from Gigabyte to be sure.
