[geo] Re: Soft geoengineering could mitigate change

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Hayes
Parminder et al,

Thank you for bringing up the mangrove/salt marsh/peatland issue. As we 
know, the past 50-100 years have seen vast coastal areas simply devastated 
due to many human factors. One of the most far reaching factor, which is 
little known to the general public, is related to shrimp farming.

I'm sure you and the Atlanta Botanical Garden 
http://newcaledoniaplants.com/plant-catalog/mangrove-plants/ organization 
are well aware of this problem. However, this simple video presentation 
http://mangroveactionproject.org/shrimp-farming/ is a good primer on that 
issue for those not familiar with the scale of devastation. Further insight 
on this primary threat to the mangroves is also found in this brief NRDC 
article; Meals of Mass Destruction: Shrimp 
http://www.nrdc.org/living/shoppingwise/meals-mass-destruction-shrimp.asp. 
For those readers wishing to lean more, at a deeper level, on the 
mangrove/shrimp suite of subjects, Paul Greensberg's recent book 'American 
Catch 
http://www.amazon.com/American-Catch-Fight-Local-Seafood/dp/1480599069' 
offers a welcomed and in-depth treatment of the mangrove/shrimp issue as 
well as informative and enlightening insights into the environmental/social 
impacts of a number of other coastal region related problems; which all 
clearly have global scale climate change ramifications. 

In short, we need to develop offshore mariculture operations on a vast 
scale to provide a sustainable supply of this and other important marine 
proteins while removing the need for such wide area environmental 
devastation within these most productive and fragile coastal regions. One 
current project which is aimed at bring such a paradigm into reality is the 
TROPOS 
Project 
http://www.troposplatform.eu/TROPOS-on-different-sectors/Aquaculture. 
Clearly, the EU Programme for Research and Development can not be faulted 
as being flighty in thought or actions. And, the TROPO Project is but one 
of a number of efforts to shift fulfillment of our basic resource needs out 
into the marine environment. The Shizimu Corp 
http://www.shimz.co.jp/english/theme/dream/pdf/greenfloat_e.pdf. and the 
Seastead 
Foundation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOa31wJD3G4 have also offered 
up plans for large scale marine operations.

As an important technical note, offshore cultivation of shrimp and other 
cultivars, using organic recirculating aquacultural systems 
http://www.recircaqua.com/topics.html (i.e. organic feed, no 
antibiotics/chemicals and no 'waste' released), is well within the related 
STEM fields of knowledge. Such a systems approach to mariculture is a 
central focus of the protein related mariculture technology called for in 
the IMBECS 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m9VXozADC0IIE6mYx5NsnJLrUvF_fWJN_GyigCzDLn0/edit
 Protocol 
Draft. Further, coupling offshore protein farming with micro/macro algal 
farming offers the highest level of coastal environmental benefits as this 
eliminates cultivation pressure on both the mangroves and the broader 
marine littoral environments; which is an important factor in regenerating 
the balance needed between the two.

The human footprint within the littoral waters needs to be kept to a 
minimum as a means of reducing the real and apparent potential of 
propagating pathogens, generating and building levels of toxins and 
destabilization of natural pray/predator relationships. Unlike many who 
champion the marine littoral cultivation approach to climate change 
mitigation, I propose a '*hands off the littorals*' stance and promote 
offshore cultivation above all other forms of CDR and CO2 
utilization/sequestration. The logic of working well offshore being; Why 
interfere with a fragile coastal zone when the added cost of going well 
offshore is well within reason at the profit level?  

Some readers may view this marine based 'Soft Geoengineering' approach, 
with the call for biological management on a vast scale, as being too 
complicated and thus inferior to other more simplistic (reductionist) 
approaches. Beyond the apparent absurdity of thinking that global warming 
mitigation will ever be simplistic, the offshore regions offers us a vastly 
abundant and profitable opportunity to avoid the worst of climate change 
while reducing environmental pressures within critical littoral and coastal 
regions. This offshore marine based global carbon management method will 
also help reduce pressure on land protein production (marine protein can be 
grown with far fewer acquired resources than beef/fowl/pork) and provide a 
global abundance of organic fertilizer and biochar, for the building of 
soil organic carbon, as a by-product of marine biofuel production. The 
potential vast scale of ancillary freshwater production 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_thermal_energy_conversion#Desalination 
offered by offshore operations is something of a side bonus. We need a 
holistic, not reductionist, view of the problems we face and that of the 

[geo] Re: Soft geoengineering could mitigate change

2014-10-29 Thread Parminder Singh
http://newcaledoniaplants.com/plant-catalog/mangrove-plants/

In addition to return crops and other plants back on soil there is also the 
need to return mangroves and other plants on peatlands, 
salt marshes etc. Their ability to take up CO2 as much as 4 times in tidal 
conditions compared to forests on land makes alot of 
sense to do it. Besides they can protect the coasts against SLR and erosion 
problems.

Parminder Singh
Malaysia



On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:29:08 AM UTC+8, andrewjlockley wrote:

 http://www.thestarphoenix.com/touch/story.html?id=10331200

 Soft geoengineering could mitigate change

 BY PAUL HANLEY, THE STARPHOENIX OCTOBER 28, 2014

 Climate change looms over our children's future.

 For those not confident in global targets to reduce C02 emissions, 
 geoengineering - the deliberate large-scale intervention in the Earth's 
 natural systems to counteract climate change - offers a last-ditch 
 solution.Proposals have been made to fertilize or increase the alkalinity 
 of the oceans in order to increase carbon absorption or to release 
 stratospheric aerosols to block sunlight and cool the atmosphere. While 
 such proposals are rightly met with skepticism - if not fear - we should 
 acknowledge that burning fossil fuels, deforestation and cultivation are 
 inadvertent forms of reverse geoengineering.

 The American soil scientist Rattan Lal and others argue that restoring 
 vegetation on degraded lands and increasing soil organic carbon (SOC) on 
 existing farmland has the potential to sequester sufficient CO2 to 
 substantially mitigate climate change if done on a large scale. This form 
 of soft geoengineering is a safe, win-win solution, since land 
 restoration and soil improvement also restore watersheds, foster 
 biodiversity, improve productivity and assist with rural poverty reduction.

 The potential to reduce climate change by sequestering atmospheric C02 in 
 soil and vegetation is huge.Photosynthesis converts 112 billion tons of 
 atmospheric CO2 into biomass annually. (By comparison, only nine billion 
 tons of carbon emissions are produced from fossil fuel combustion.) 
 However, almost all of the CO2 synthesized by plants is returned back to 
 the atmosphere through plant and soil respiration.According to Lal, if 10 
 per cent of what plants photosynthesize annually - about 11 billion tons - 
 could be retained in the biosphere, it would be possible to balance the 
 global carbon budget, halting climate change.

 Lal explains that the atmospheric concentration of CO2 from fossil-fuel 
 combustion and land-use changes has increased by 30 per cent since 1750, 
 resulting in gradual global warming. Since the Industrial Revolution, 
 global emissions of carbon are estimated at around 270 billion tons due to 
 fossil-fuel combustion and about 136 billion tons due to land-use change 
 and soil cultivation.Emissions due to land-use change include those from 
 deforestation, biomass burning, conversion of natural ecosystems to 
 agriculture, drainage of wetlands and soil cultivation. Depletion of the 
 SOC pool has contributed around 78 billion tons of carbon to the 
 atmosphere. Some cultivated soils have lost one-half to two-thirds of the 
 original SOC.The depletion of SOC is accentuated by soil degradation and 
 exacerbated by land misuse and soil mismanagement.

 Soil is the third-largest carbon sink after oceans and fossil fuels. Soil 
 contains 4.5 times the sequestration capacity of all vegetation (including 
 trees) and 3.3 times that of the atmosphere.While Rattan Lal estimates that 
 10 to 20 per cent of annual greenhouse gas emissions could be removed each 
 year by sequestering carbon in cultivated land, a study by the Rodale 
 Institute was more optimistic. It states, multiple research efforts verify 
 that practical organic agriculture if practised on the planet's 3.5 billion 
 tillable acres, could sequester nearly 40 per cent of our current CO2 
 emissions.

 Even by the more conservative estimate, carbon farming holds significant 
 potential to mitigate climate change.

 The global potential of SOC sequestration through the application of 
 recommended management practices on a large scale, at an average of one ton 
 per hectare year, is one billion tons of carbon per year, which would 
 offset one-fourth to one-third of the total human-caused annual net 
 increase in atmospheric CO2, estimated at 3.3 billion tons per year.The 
 cumulative potential of SOC sequestration over 25 to 50 years could be as 
 much as 60 billion tons, close to half of all emissions from land-use 
 changes since 1750.The potential of soil sequestration to mitigate climate 
 change of course depends on the extent of the application of recommended 
 practices.

 Some 1.5 billion hectares of land are currently under cultivation. There 
 is an optimum range of SOC concentration of two to three per cent in the 
 root zone of most soil types. Given that cultivation has generally led to 

[geo] Re: Soft geoengineering could mitigate change

2014-10-29 Thread nathan currier
Hi, Michael and GeoE  -



Thanks. Michael, you write about wanting to “promote offshore cultivation
above all other forms of CDR and CO2 utilization/sequestration.” I’ve seen
the Rodale stuff before, and wondered about their rosy numbers. Note that
in the quote here Rodale are describing using 2x the current amount of
cultivated land. That’s quite an Ag footprint! It isn’t exactly “back to
Nature.”



It isn’t said often enough that agriculture is about the biggest and worst
of the current, unplanned instinctive geoengineerings we've gotten
ourselves into, and possibly where we should really take the bull by the
horns…..and get rid of him. Rather than the “carbon farming” of sustainable
beef, or the “carbon farming” of no till ag, Rodale, etc, what about the
idea that going higher-tech on ag, on a planet with more than 7 billion,
could possibly be one of the best ways toward greater carbon management and
returning the global ecosystem to a more natural state?



So, how about another idea, Michael, which is neither like your IMBECS – it
could be complementary to it – nor what Rattan Lal is describing? Some
years ago I got interested in hydroponics in general, and was fascinated
back in 2007 when I saw a publication from an international hydroponics
conference from the early 1970s where the opening essay said something
like, “if global warming should ever become a major problem for
agriculture, this could be an important solution.” They meant just to keep
us all eating when the soils are dried out, but I’ve often wondered since
whether it could become far more, and is better done sooner, proactively,
rather than later, defensively.



The only real CO2 purchasing market existing right now is for hothouse
tomatoes. How far could it go? I know Lackner with his artificial trees has
discussed tomatoes and such as a possible venue for growing his DAC
technique, with pretty low estimates of potential, but if global-scale ag
was really done this way, how high could the numbers reach?



Has anyone ever seen or done that calculation? In other words, how much of
that 112 Gt/yr CO2 mentioned in the article Andrew posted goes into what’s
eaten up by human beings? I'd love to see that number if anyone has seen or
done the calculations...



Anyhow, I have long wondered about the opposite from what Lal is proposing
– rather than growing the human ag footprint 2x but trying to sink much
more C/acre soil, what about shrinking that footprint vastly and letting
natural re-growth help species deal with the warming, sinking a great deal
of carbon initially into growing the new forests, and having a BECS-like
negative carbon ag profile from then on by boosting the internal CO2
growing environment to optimal for each crop, grown in large centers
outside of metro areas? Of course this shares some things with Despommier’s
“vertical farming” and such, but it’s also quite distinct in various
respects – not with artificial light, nor so high as he plans, etc.
Instead, just as high as the highest current greenhouses, maximizing light
use through vertical filtering by crop, etc.  The idea would be to have
protein sources, too: I discovered back when I was first interested in all
this that NASA had done a little research on possible hydroponic soy, but
never did any actual breeding program (the Hoyt can grow this way, but is
inferior...so, breeding work needed to get a higher quality cultivar); the
Japanese after 9/11 researched and achieved hydroponically growable rice,
for an “emergency” (they meant terrorism). All hydroponics grow with vastly
less water, don’t need pesticides, and with much higher yield densities
than soil ag. If rice were done widely this way, lots of methane would also
be trappable and could be used as an energy source.



One could even then promote the “high-CO2-consuming” diet for humanity. So,
a veggie diet, of course, but also centering it on those things that love
to suck up lots of CO2 – so… maybe forget Ken and his chomping on Chicken
McNuggets out in mid- century….maybe more like, a hydroponically grown
mushroom pizza  salad?


cheers, Nathan

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Michael Hayes voglerl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Parminder et al,

 Thank you for bringing up the mangrove/salt marsh/peatland issue. As we
 know, the past 50-100 years have seen vast coastal areas simply devastated
 due to many human factors. One of the most far reaching factor, which is
 little known to the general public, is related to shrimp farming.

 I'm sure you and the Atlanta Botanical Garden
 http://newcaledoniaplants.com/plant-catalog/mangrove-plants/ organization
 are well aware of this problem. However, this simple video presentation
 http://mangroveactionproject.org/shrimp-farming/ is a good primer on
 that issue for those not familiar with the scale of devastation. Further
 insight on this primary threat to the mangroves is also found in this brief
 NRDC article; Meals of Mass Destruction: Shrimp