[Goanet-News] Goa news for July 19, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa law commission suggests amendments in tenants act - Press Trust of India ecade-old acts to give rights of property to the tenants in the state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ptinews.com/news/178187_Goa-law-commission-suggests-amendments-in-tenants-actusg=AFQjCNFPH0Gzz5Uu2dF3MqR8fsU5B2FQHA *** Serial killer charge-sheeted by Goa police - Press Trust of India heeted by Goa police http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ptinews.com/news/181196_Serial-killer-charge-sheeted-by-Goa-policeusg=AFQjCNFwvsjV6F8pnGxOMGrGAG1gddeNJw *** Goa police refuses to hand over bodies of Russians - Press Trust of India KU6HIlT0AwQCops refuse to hand over bodies of Russian duo http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/179012_Goa-police-refuses-to-hand-over-bodies-of-Russiansusg=AFQjCNHNO6EYcOxzcDP1fMxTjqOcx5JwbQ *** 20-year-old boy tests positive for swine flu in Goa - Times of India ear-old-man-tests-positive-for-swine-fluusg=AFQjCNEvrON8pk3YF3Uv_H--YjqpCFXLBw20-year-old man tests positive for swine flu http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Goa-20-year-old-boy-tests-positive-for-swine-flu-in-Goa/articleshow/4792898.cmsusg=AFQjCNGWEHsZ0-hi6xXsY9LDP82DM-mezA *** Goa criticised for pushing SEZs in guise of \'health estates\' - SINDH TODAY yHPTR5Q6g6_VxOIATrouble brewing for health estates http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/31840.htmusg=AFQjCNGQ535-TJWuHkm0mb9V1u5tqZdUew *** Grants.gov has Serious Weaknesses, Says GOA - IT Business Edge _GUf68HjWS_aEfxDXwGAO: Federal Grants Web Site Shows 'Weaknesses' http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/community/news/gt/blog/grantsgov-has-serious-weaknesses-says-goa/?cs=34219usg=AFQjCNGzF2_jiCISAavqA4vNSxKgWSewDw *** Eze Must Be Punished For Cheating - Sporting Clube De Goa - Goal.com 7-07-2009-003.htmusg=AFQjCNETRIarXBCt3z9EUZic8BSgi2fvEAFIFA fine Indian club over Nigerian star http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/136/india/2009/07/17/1387816/eze-must-be-punished-for-cheating-sporting-clube-de-goausg=AFQjCNH5AnuM9mCU-TJUAwSaFYX9odBlnA *** \'Goa\' gang mobbed in Malaysia - IndiaGlitz diaGlitzWith almost half the film's shoot being completed, the crew of director Venkat Prabhu's 'Goa' has proceeded to shoot in Malaysia. The film has Jai, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/48396.htmlusg=AFQjCNFedzphwB4cY86wln8ih5F5wZS_Zw *** Goa Chief Secretary favours speedy disposal of files - Hindu rdinates not to keep government files pending for more than seven days. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200907181331.htmusg=AFQjCNG5jNHJxjSBd21HX8toGUOLhPPKlA *** Animal lovers keen to guard Goa\'s forests - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The killing of a cow by a tiger reported recently in a forest area near Amboli, barely 35 km from Goa's border at Dodamarg, has stirred the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4791112.cmsusg=AFQjCNG5Cwbs0OYREPUfovnxd89eSN1opg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet-News] Goanet highlights: Who or what is a caneco? (Selma Carvalho)
Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho One of the interesting discussion on Goanet has been about the word “canecos”. The Portuguese used this word, often as a racial slur, for Catholic Goans but opinions were divided as to its actual meaning. Here are some of the more interesting viewpoints shared by Goanet members. Gabriel de Figueiredo: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179875.html Bernado Colaco: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179941.html Monica Reis of the Indo-Portuguese Art Research Project: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179934.html Con Menezes: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180027.html Although a consensus was not reached on its actual meaning, there is a strong possibility that it is a corruption of the word “canarims,” the old Portuguese word for people of the Konkan coast. The fact that in Africa, only Catholic Goans were called “canecos” and not the Africans, leads credence to this theory. Another interesting discourse was about the cabaia. Up until the mid-20th century, Goan men often wore a cabaia, a loose fitting gown similar to those worn by Arabs. Was it the last vestige of an Islamic influence that influence Goan men to wear this cabaia or was it something else. Read, two insightful posts on this topic: Alfred de Tavares: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179974.html Fatima Gracias: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180012.html One debate which makes a cyclical appearance on Goanet and which always gets over-heated is the issue of migrants coming into Goa from other part of India. This is a subject which certainly has two sides to it and both have been well defended by members of Goanet: Frederick Noronha: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180209.html Arwin Mesquita: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180213.html George Pinto: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180225.html And speaking of migrations, Valmiki Faleiro, gives us a historical perspective on Goan out-migration. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180222.html For the Konkani aficionado, Lino Dourada, has a : Aitaracheo Katkutleo: TAnchem Pap, Ami Kiteak Divnchi Zap. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180226.html If anyone has a hankering for the glorious Goan monsoon, you can catch a glimpse of it on these excellent photographs by Rajan Parrikar. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180181.html Samir Kelekar shares with us his perspective on the perils of unbridled growth. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180153.html These breathtaking photographs by JoeGoaUK are worth a look if you still yearn for a delectable serving of fish, curry and rice. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180142.html Vidyadhar Gadgil writes about the moving plight of Muslims who seek a burial ground in Goa, in “Dying with dignity.” Cecil Pinto takes a hilarious look at homosexuality in “Homosexuality: the straight truth.” http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179880.html No debate on Goanet has ignited as much fire in recent weeks as the contentious issue of “Foreigners buying property in Goa.” Whichever side your own convictions lie, here are some insightful viewpoints. For a background of the topic, Eddie Fernandes: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179522.html Mario Goveia: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179933.html Freddy Fernandes: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179896.html Pandu Lampiao: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179730.html Goanet can be accessed by subject at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/subject.html To follow this discuss click on either British citizens buying property in Goa or Foreigners buying land in Goa.
[Goanet-News] Music from the Goan world ... rendered in style on the piano
Here's wishing Goanetter Francis Rodrigues all the best: Mollbailo Dou http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHtdqmIskF8feature=related Claudia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20GX2Xhh9U0feature=related Sweater Kori http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGm6ML12AIQfeature=related Cadiza za za Olha Policia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKDmir-maJI Encosta Tua Cabecinha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37_tY9_9xDo Tambdde Roza (sax) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuyUeHs2w_Ufeature=related ... among others. Comments/feedback to Francis Rodrigues fcarodrig...@hotmail.com -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. - Larry Wall
[Goanet] Over 450 Illegal Land Deals by Foreigners
http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/938-over-450-illegal-land-deals-by-foreigners [image: smaller text tool icon]http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/938-over-450-illegal-land-deals-by-foreigners# [image: medium text tool icon]http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/938-over-450-illegal-land-deals-by-foreigners# [image: larger text tool icon]http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/938-over-450-illegal-land-deals-by-foreigners# PANAJI: Ever since it was established that a large number of foreigners of different nationalities had unauthorizedly purchased huge plots of land in the state, the government agencies have begun investigations into the land deals. Over 450 illegal land deals involving British, Russians, Germans, etc have been unearthed. Most of the land that has been bought by foreign nationals is along the state’s coastline and prime locations. It has been revealed that the foreigners have “illegally” bought over 12 lakh square metres of land in the state. The Enforcement Department, which looks after cases of violation of Foreign Exchange Management Act, has issued show-cause notices to a large number of companies owned by foreigners asking their officials to explain why action should not be taken for violating the state laws. Dozens of United Kingdom nationals, who constitute a chunk of those who have been booked for violation of FEMA, recently raked up the issue and petitioned their Prime Minister, Mr Gordon Brown claiming harassment by Goan officials in registering the land deals. Though it was reported that Mr Brown had intervened in the matter and had written to Indian officials, the state officials said that they have not yet received any correspondence from the British Prime Minister or any of the central agencies. “There has not been any sort of officials communication from any quarter so far, they said. The senior officials in the state administration denied the claim made by the UK nationals that they were being harassed and said that these people (against whom action has been initiated) had purchased the land in total violation of the country’s laws that govern purchase of land by foreigners. “How can we register any deal that has been made against the law of the land,” said a senior government official even as he denied that any person was ever harassed while seeking registration of a legal deal. The state government officials, however, admitted that it has come to notice that the purchases could have been done in connivance with some unscrupulous elements. The officials also said that many foreigners were “lured” into making purchases by some locals, including a few lawyers and other officials, adding that some foreigners had given written complaints that they were misled at every step of land deals by “everybody” involved in the deals and that they were ignorant of the law. The officials, however, said that they would proceed with the cases in accordance with the provisions of law and take appropriate action as laid down in law. They also said that Enforcement Department was already looking into the matter and action would follow soon. Back to Tophttp://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/938-over-450-illegal-land-deals-by-foreigners#top-toolbar-article -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
[Goanet] History through the eyes of historians
The above named brilliant article written by Basilio G Monteiro appeared on Sunday Mirror Herald (Goa) dated July 19. I reproduce below two paras on Goa for the information of the Goanetters. Basilio G Monteiro: ''One may know a lot about the history ;of 18th century Goa, written bythose who could write and read; that means from a perspective of a particular high society or by an individual of the dominant society; what do we know from the perspective of a village person, who did not write, lived on the fringes of the society eking out a marginal existence ? '' BGM: '' The history of the Church of Goa has not been immune from ungodly ambitions, and holders of power from being used as a tool, sometimes willingly, to promote colonial agendas and from corrupt and self aggrandising !pastors! '''
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Dear Goanetters, It's a shame that Rama Velip of Colamb village is being harassed. Can Goanet do something for him. Ashley -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Venantius Pinto Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:27 PM To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Some thoughts. If it possible to get an OP, Order of Protection against the police. I mean has it ever been done. Besides emotional torture, what do midnight calls amount to? An ample opportunity for possible liquidation?! It also reminded me that almost no analysis has been done of anything related to mining and its various caveats, as sporadic missives from the fields appear on Goanet--by Goanetters. I could be wrong, but even if I could be, it still implies that unlike other issues this one needs a lot of processing before cogent or however incoherent thoughts make it into cyberspace. Also have not seen much by way of writers or essayists, however well meaning their toughts on matters and ills relating to society; aside from mining, with its pros and cons as it plays out in Goa. I am not talking here of journalists, or correspondents in the journalistic sense, nor of activists, or bloggers (who are not exactly slacking). I am talking of corespondence from writers, artists, poets, doctors, professionals, home-makers, and other as correspondents. Remember the word correspondent as it was used in the past. ++ The dessais--Phaldessais--sounds more like fruit parasites, who took a shine to ore. ++ venantius Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:03:18 +0530 From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. There are phone calls made at Rama Velip's residence at very odd hours in the night and ask him to report to Quepem Police Station. Rama Velip is heading Gawda, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Fedearation (GAKUVED) unit under the jurisdiction of Rivona Panchayat and in the middle of resistance movement against mining in Sanguem and Quepem Talukas of South Goa. CID officer who is involved in harassing Rama Velip is one Premanand Phaldessai attached to Quepem Police Station. He hails from Sanvordem and according to the sources his family members are involved in business of transportation of Iron Ore through ownership of trucks. _ Stay updated! Add Facebook, LinkedIn, MySpace Hi5 friends to your Windows Live network instantly. Add Now! http://profile.live.com/webactivities/?mkt=en-in --
[Goanet] 100-year-old nun Sister Lenka of Kolkata hailed as unsung Mother Teresa
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) INDIA 100-year-old nun hailed as unsung Mother Teresa By Anne Nigli KOLKATA, India (UCAN) -- A Hungarian nun, who has just turned 100, has been hailed as an unsung Mother Teresa for her decades of work helping poor women gain the skills to earn a living. Centenarian Sister Lenke Franciscan Sister Etelka Marton, popularly known as Sister Lenke, has lived in Kolkata since 1968 where she has taught thousands of women to sew and embroider, giving them skills that helped them feed their families. Unlike Mother Teresa, or Blessed Teresa of Kolkata, Sister Lenke was unknown to the media, retired Archbishop Henry D'Souza of Calcutta told UCA News before celebrating a Mass to mark her 100th birthday on June 27. While Blessed Teresa's work was highly visible, Sister Lenke spent most of her time in her workroom, training poor women sent by priests from far-flung mission stations. The frail nun, with a wide grin and sparkle in her eye, still commands respect and love from her companions and the women she taught, say those who know her. Some 250 women who she has helped over the years visited her on her birthday bringing their children and grandchildren. Sister Lenke was active until Jan. 1 when she broke her right arm in a fall, her superior, Sister Celine Xavier, said. While her arm has healed, Sister Lenke, who is nearly blind, has been bedridden since the accident. Sister Xavier said that during her decades of service, the centenarian nun has worked as gardener, nurse, matron to orphans, sacristan and catechism teacher. Her main mission, however, was to head the embroidery section that had in its early years trained over 500 poor village women. She stopped teaching in 1994 but continued to pray, listen to spiritual readings, and welcome innumerable visitors, said Sister Xavier. Sister Lenke was born in 1909 in Budapest. According to Sister Celine, the senior nun vividly recalls growing up in the turmoil that followed the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire after World War I. While her father was away at war, her mother worked as a dressmaker to provide for her four children, of which Sister Lenke was the eldest. Only the nun's younger sister is still living today, in Hungary. One of her brothers died a few weeks after his birth and the other died during the World War II. Sister Lenke joined the Franciscan Missionaries of Mary in 1930 and reached Jabalpur in central India in 1934. She came to Kolkata in 1968 but remains a Hungarian citizen. http://www.ucanews.com/2009/07/16/100-year-old-nun-hailed-as-unsung-mother-teresa/ http://www.goa-world.com www.colaco.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/venantius/ www.goa-world.com/goa/ music/ - The Online Music Station for KONKANI http://www.konkanisongbook.com/ THANKS TO ALL FOR YOUR PRAYERS http://www.jrsbible.info/bible.htm Promoting Tiatr Tiatrists since 1994 http://tiatracademy.blogspot.com/ Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans EXPRESSIONS - THE FLOWER SHOP http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/ Tuji kopi sugur korunk visronaka http://tiatracademy.blogspot.com/2009/07/greatest-konkani-song-hits-214-page.html http://tiatracademy.blogspot.com/2009/07/greatest-konkani-song-hits-214-page.html
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: TAnchem Pap, Ami Kiteak Divnchi Zap?
Tanchem Pap, Ami Kiteak Divnchi Zap? Thoddem bhov Inglez vachunk-borovnk xiklolem Fulam-bai, (disbhor mhateak fulam mallpi, dekhunuch tika fulam-bai nanv dilam) tichea xezareak ravpi Klement-timaink, tea disache disaleacher chappun ailoli khobor, Swine flu-hit suffer social stigma! vachun sangtalem. Klement-timai, apnnalea dhukrank khann ghaltali. Hea disamni ti matxe pertubad (disturb) asli. Bhailea desamni rabito (thikann) korun aslolo lok, kosli tori dhukrachi pidda ghevn tourism-achea nanvan Goem bhitor sorta mhunn tika khobor asli. Goyche dhukrank ani masak giraik nasun, tika bhouch lukson zalolem. Tigelim, tonddan udkam haddpa sarkelim dhukrachim chevrisam Moddganvchea pornea bazaran hot cake koxim khoptalim. Fulam-bayen, swine flu he pidde vixim tika mahiti ditana, luksonachea ujean lastolea Klementin-timaink, paperacher chhapunn ailoleo khannio sangun anikui chintnachem vozem tichea mhatear dovorlem. Klementin-timaigelo ek tuntunit anglotin bhorlolo solog (dhukor) pottbhor dhon khavn laginch aslole dhukrik mellunk ghelo. “Hey dhukri. Rav! Aik, aik!” “Kitem zalem re pelvont dhukra? Soglloch abuzadd zala koso? Rongar bha yeunk na mhu?” “Hanv kitem sangtam tem poilim aik. Rongancheo khobro uprant dovor. Bhailea desamni aslole Goykarank amchi, mhonnchem; pig flu pidda zalea. Ani tea pasot, hea disamni amche sonsticher hol’lo (attack) unno asa.” “Itlench? Fokot itlench aikolam tuvem? Arre dhukra, amchi pidda dhamichi (contagious) zalolea bhaxen ani dhukor-piddek kosloch ilaz naslole porim chukicho somoz ghevn lok asa tem mat sarkem nhoi mhunn, Goyche Bholaike Khatean lokachea nodrek haddlam khoim. Inglez vachunk-borounk noko asloli Klementin-timaink, tea Fulam-bayen ek aslolem tem, dha korun sanglem astolem.” “Avois!! Hem tuka koxem ghomlem bara pillanche dhukri?” “Tuka kitem dislem? Tujench Fulam-bai Inglez zannam mhunn? Mhoji-i ghorvali unni na. Kal ti Agostinhochea kumarik sangtanam, hanvem sogllem aikolam.” “Mhakai-i aikopak di nhi?” “Halinchea disamni Goyant anink dog zonn swine flu piddek boli poddleat mhunn Bholaike Khatean thokrari nond zaleat. Ani tankam Chikalim Cottage Hospitalant vorun, ilaz divn ghora portileat henvuim sarkem. Punn atam, ganvcho lok tankam veglech torechi vagnnunk divnk lagla. Tanchea ghora nhoi mhunn lagsor vochun tanche thaim ulounk bhieta mhunn, piddek boli poddlolea eka ghorkarachi mogall potin, Bholaike Khatem odikaream thaim xinn korta. Hem lokachem sarkem re yea?” “Sarkench! Pig flu pidda laglolea mon’xanchea khonvli velean zontu (virus) yeta khoim” “Kainch noko zalear, ogich rav dhukra! Tum sangta te toren amchi pidda bori zainam osli (incurable) mhunn? Adim, Goyant dhukranchi pidda nasli? Lok mortalo? Bhailea desantlean hi swine flu pidda hanga ailear ami guneavkari? Dhukranchi poltton aslole kodden sonvsarbhor dhukrachi pidda asach. Jednam dhukrachim poromporik chevrisam vikun dispotto zhoddtolea dhondekaramni apli oddchonn ani luksonn zata tem Bholaike Montreak ani Kasdar Sardinho ani PWD Montri Churchillache nodrek haddlem tednam tannim sanglem, zonvoranchem mas bore toren xizoun khailear koslich pidda zavpachi xoketai nam mhunn. Kombi mhunn bori? Bird-flu mhunn ghevn yevnk nam? Goycho sorkar ani Bholaike Khatem zata te toren lokak he pidde vixim zagrutai kortolo mhunn sanglam ani somaja koddsun unneponn sonsunk poddtolea lokak apnnalo adhar basaila.” “Itli sogott khobor tuka khoinchean mellta?” “Mhoji ghorvali, Agostinhoche kumarik sangtana aikolam. Ani itlench nhoi. Ti mhonnta, Goychim dhukram irvem tonn, char ani zhaddachim panam khatat dekhunuch koslech duensam amkam lagu zainant. Goychim poromporik ruchik chevrisam amchea masakoddsun zatat toslim chevrisam mollant (farms) postolea dhukram koddlean mellonant. Kiteak? Amkam mellta toslem nallache pende borobor sullsulit xitacho nis khavunk, famant postolea dhukranchea noxibant nam….” “Punn ami ganvant heddtolim dhukram, mon’xanchi hollxig khatat te toren mollant vo famant aslolim dhukram khainant nhi gho yea?” “Mhonnchem?” “Hi poi Klement-timaim udkacho thambio ghevn veta. Tichi matxe khobor ghevn yetam.” Lino B. Dourado
[Goanet] List of new tiatr/current tiatrs etc
List of new tiatr/current tiatrs etc Devache Vhodd Upkar by Mariano Fernandes http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3734308444/sizes/l/ TARVOTTIA TUKA NOMAN releasing soon Don’t know if it is VCD or ACD Other current showing Tiatr AMCHEI-I ANVDDE by Maxcy Pereira, 2nd Aug, Margao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAVkOuthNYo POLICE part I Com Agostinho, 26th July Margao/Sanvordem, 28th Panjim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CR7e68qJmQ JEM DEVAN GHODDLAM by Elves-Carmen 22nd July Panjim/Margao, 25th Sanvordem - see flyer THAPOTT by Roseferns 26th July Panjim/Margao/Ponda, 1st 4th Aug Margao See flyer JIVIT DILAM by Sons of Anthony de Velsao 25th July Margao. See flyer TUM FELIZ ZAUM by Samuel Carvalho 30th july Margao GOUYO PUT by Souza Ferao/Anil Kumar 20th July Ponda, 22nd Mapusa, 24th Panjim (FREE SHOW) KAL AIZ ANI FALEAM by Mario Menezes 19th July Mapusa Manohar Parrikar as chief Guest, again today at Margao and again 24th and then 2nd Aug Sanvordem http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3548794687/ TOURIST by Anthony Sylvester 25th July Panjim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnjF59OtYEY DEVUL by John D’Silva 26th July Margao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHm0d0_dS8g KITEAK BHURGUIM AMCHI GIRESKA by Mini Mario today at Margao 19th July http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCxFDv5gzcs MAHANAND MONIS VO SOITAN by Tony Dias. Tickets on sale from tomorrow. 8th Aug Ponda, 9th Sanvordem, 10th Margao, 16th Panjim http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3550947796/ DHA LAKH by Minin de Bandar Today Sanvordem, 23rd Margao JIV by Minin de Bandar on 21st july Panjim See flyer TO AMKAM VISORLO by Late Jacint Vaz/Ben Evangelisto 26th July Panjim, 27th Margao and 1st Aug Margao again See flyer TALLIO MARAT by Milagres de Chandor today Sanvordem and Mapusa and 21st Margao http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3463581460/ ZAIT ZAGE by Prince Jacob 25th July Margao, 26th Panjim and Ponda 2nd Aug Mapusa. See flyer EK DHAGO SUKACHO by Anil-Olga 23rd Aug N. Delhi It seems, the also go to London same month. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4JDzDTUq0k Mariano’s prev. tiatr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2bhftKtovY Flyers: Elvis-Carmen/Prince Jacob/Jacint Vaz http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3712282163/sizes/l/ Mini Mario/John/Minin Bandar etc http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiatr/3447659357/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Extend time and hold local level consultations: Round Table on Goa Police Bill
Extend time and hold local level consultations: Round Table on Goa Police Bill That the House Committee must seek extension of time for eliciting suggestions on the Goa Police Bill and must have informed hearings at village and taluka levels and submit a reasoned report, was the consensus at a State-level Round Table on the Goa Police Bill organised in the city today. This demand came in the light of the testimonies from participants about their experiences with the police as also their concerns about the police, none of which was reflected in the Police Bill. The Round Table organised by Citizens Initiatives for Communal Harmony drew the participation of representatives of women’s , children’s rights, tribal, youth and minority groups, trade unions, organizations working on local self-governance, civic issues, informal workers’ groups, non-Government organizations, and educational institutions, besides lawyers and other concerned citizens. Mr. Karl Pinto e Souza, stated that it was necessary to look at whose interests the police force serves and also to look at what access is available to vulnerable and differently abled sections of society to access the police. He questioned the prejudices in the bill which make uncalled for assumptions about the criminality of tenants and migrants while completely overlooking gated communities with their mega-facilities and clout. Retired Defense service officer John Eric Gomes observed that there were several ambiguities and contradictions in the Goa Police Bill and no provisions for citizens to be able to complain at a police station of their comfort. Referring to the series of unearthed murders of women Ms. Auda Viegas of Bailancho Ekvott suggested that the police should maintain written records and have data maintenance systems as regards the work being done by them and the crimes recorded by them. Ms. Viegas further opined that politically motivated transfers must stop as this deters effective investigations. Dr. Narayan Dumo pointed out that the ground of ‘administrative exigency’ set out in the Goa Police Bill to justify transfers was too vague, while also drawing attention to the inhuman working terms for the police which he stated must also be addressed through this Bill. Mr. Reggie Gomes also stressed the need for an independence from politicians both in the recruitment and functioning of police. Ms. Madhuri Rao of Family Counselling Centre of All India Women’s Conference made a case for putting an obligation for compensation by police for dereliction of their duty to register complaints, besides stating that the police were hesitant to consider counselors at the police station which could have facilitated complainants. Mr. Pranab Mukhopadhyay also stated that provisions must be built in to ensure that police do not shirk their responsibility to register complaints. Mr. Anthony D’Silva of Ambelim remarked on the right of a complainant to get their complaint registered in a language which they understand. Mr. Pravin Sabnis of Goa Bachao Abhiyan stated that law and order is a vague term and that protection was being afforded to violators in the name of averting a law and order situation generated by the very violators, complaints against whom were not being taken up. A common refrain at the Round Table was the failure of the police to register complaints of the lay man and woman even as false complaints were registered by the police against those who were questioned the illegalities of certain corporate interests and the corruption and hafta collection and mafiasation of the police. Experiences in this regard were shared by Mr. Rama Velip of Goa Mines Affected Peoples, Mr. Mahesh Naik of Jai Damodar Association, Mr. Laurie Abranches of United Goans Welfare Front. Ms. Sunita Mulgaonkar representing Tribes of Goa also wondered whether police protection was meant for perpetrators of crimes giving an instance where a perpetrator of a serious crime against a tribal domestic help was afforded protection. Mr. Rahul Tripathi of the Department of Political Science, Goa University, emphasized the importance of human rights education as part and parcel of police training and education, while also pointing out the need for defined roles for state and central police agencies. Ms. Sumita Sawant Desai spoke of the need for priority in the police curriculum of education about traffic and redressal of important people’s concerns. Mr. Soter D’Souza of Centre for Panchayati Raj stated that the police must be at the service of the citizens to ensure their effective political participation including at the gram sabha in order to protect themselves from the disruption of these gram sabhas by organised goons. Mr. Vidyadhar Gadgil of CICH stated that the Government was not serious even about implementing its own one-man inquiry report into the Guddemol riots where police sensitization for dealing with communal tensions was recommended. The communalization of the police force
[Goanet] Nunchaku=Nunchuck and also Hobson-Jobson
From Ben Zimmer is executive producer of the Visual Thesaurus and editor of the online magazine.: The way that *nunchaku* got reshaped as *nunchuck*/*numchuck* is reminiscent of the Hobson-Jobsonisms that I discussed in this space last monthhttp://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wordroutes/1874/. *Hobson-Jobson*, you may recall, was the title of an Anglo-Indian dictionary that has come to refer to the process of adapting foreign words into the sound system of another language. So, for instance, the Malay word *amok*run around violently got Anglicized as *amuck http://www.visualthesaurus.com/?word=amuck*, perhaps under the influence of the English verb *muck (up)http://www.visualthesaurus.com/?word=muck up *, make a mess of, destroy or ruin. And if you run amuck with a nunchuck, well, you're pressing your luck. http://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wordroutes/1918/ ++ Also at the aboove url, came across a reference to Hobson-Jobson: A Glossary of Anglo-Indian words and phrases, and of Kindred Terms, Etymological, Historical, Geographic and Disursive, by Henry Yule and A. C. Burnell.New Edition Edited by William Crooke. Btw, those who have never seen Hobson-Jobson should look it up sometime. Interesting words abound -- like Hoogly (Hugli, from the Bengali word hogla for tall grass (Typha angustifolia), Hooghley, Hoogly; Chatanati, Chuttanutty, now Calcutta; or for that matter the same word -- Shahbunder, Xabandar, Sabaio, Sabandar, Sabindar, Sha-bunder, Shawbunder, Shabander, Sjahbander, Shawbandaar, Shebander, Shahbendar, meaning Harbour-Master; The story Behind Hobson-Jobson at: http://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wordroutes/1874/ (excerpt) *amok* (run around violently) *a-muck*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.0:1:49.hobson *bangsal* (shed, warehouse) *bankshall*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.0:1:140.hobson *gadis* (young woman) *goddess*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:29.hobson *gudang* (warehouse) *godown*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:30.hobson *jung *(Chinese ship) *junk*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:280.hobson *kampung* (quarter, residential area) *compound*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.0:1:603.hobson *kris* (Javanese dagger) *crease*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.0:1:678.hobson *padi* (rice plant) *paddy*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:727.hobson *perahu* (boat) *prow*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:884.hobson *rotan* (rattan) *rattan*http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:940.hobson ++ venantius j pinto
[Goanet] Not much impact.
This is in reference to the below article by Mr. Eduardo Falerio that there is not much impact on the Goans i would like to ask the Commissioner for Non Resident Indian affairs to aswer the following question if he has proper data? The number of Indian in the Gulf How many Indian have residgetred with the Goa Govt How many indian are paying some kind of fees to support them in case they come back to Goa in case of job loss. I would like to inform the commisioner that there was 40,000 people Gulf / US / Shippy)who have returned to Goa after Job from Oct 2008 and non of them have registered to the govt of Job loss. Looking at Goans population the % is very high. How can Mr. Eduardo Falerio make such a statement and have press conferece once in a while and sit in Goa in his residential house to make such comments.The commissioner needs to travel to the Gulf on the govt cost and find the truth about job loss. Commisioner just dont spend the people money and have press conference to make such pathetic comments go find out the truth and only the truth from some people n the gulf and otehr region who knows what is happeing in the other countries about the job loss. I need to see a reply on the same. reagrds PANAJI: The Commissioner for Non Resident Indian Affairs, Mr Eduardo Faleiro on Friday said the recession and its subsequent fallout has not significantly affected the Goans working overseas (particularly Arabian Gulf) as they normally do not work in the industries like construction, sale of big cars etc and the number of those returning home due to recession is not much. The Commissioner for NRI affairs, however, said that most Arab countries did not feel the effect of recession except for the UAE and Kuwait. Addressing a press conference here on Friday morning, Mr Faleiro said contrary to the belief that recession has affected Goans working abroad, the number of Goans going overseas for jobs, particularly Arabian Gulf, has increased even as he said the situation was not worrisome, despite many Arabian nations going in for indigenisation. Mr Faleiro said that his interaction with the country’s envoys to some Arab countries, Goan associations abroad and those returning home on vacations and otherwise have revealed that the situation was not worrisome. He said the number of Goans migrating overseas could not be quantified as many of them go on visit visas and later take up jobs. The Commissioner for NRI affairs informed that the NRI commission had undertaken various steps to provide all possible help to Goans working abroad and prevailed the government to bring in a bill to protect their properties, which has subsequently become a law. He went on to add that two more bills aimed at the welfare of non-resident Goans were in the offing and that the government could bring them in the monsoon session beginning on Monday. The first bills is aimed at amending the Goa Registration of Tourist Trade Act, 1982, so as to bar travel agents from doubling as recruiting agents unless they were registered with the protector general of emigrants. He said that there were 20 cases registered at various police stations against recruiting agents, who have cheated people but the pace of investigation has been rather slow. The second bill, the Goa (non-resident Goan) welfare bill, was aimed at creation of a welfare fund to grant relief to non-resident Goans in certain cases of exigencies, he said adding that NRGs would have to become members of the fund by contributing Rs 300 per month for not less than five years and would the members or their families would be eligible for pension/family pension as the case may be, financial assistance in case of disability, medical treatment etc. Mr Faleiro also said the holders of Goa Card would henceforth not only be eligible to obtain faster access and attention from government departments but also would get discounts ranging from 10 per cent to 40 per cent in more than 25 establishments in Goa, including hotels, travel agents, hospitals, etc. The card could be obtained by NRGs on payment of Rs 250 and was valid for two years and could be subsequently renewed, he said adding that it has now been decided to provide insurance cover of Rs 1 lakh to the holders of Goa Card without any further payment. Later replying to a question, he said the commission has been acting on the complaints received by it even as it carries out random scrutiny of the advertisements placed in newspapers by recruiting agents to verify whether they were genuine or not. He said that so far in all cases the scrutiny has revealed that all those who advertise were genuine people. _ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1
[Goanet] The Milk Myth: What a Body Really Needs | LiveScience
The Milk Myth: What upur Body really needs Con http://www.livescience.com/health/090624-milk-myth.html
[Goanet] Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Ashley writes: Dear Goanetters, It's a shame that Rama Velip of Colamb village is being harassed. Can Goanet do something for him. Ashley Can we have Phaldessai's number ? We can definitely call him and ask him under what law is he making midnight calls ? If ten people call, it will surely have an effect. samir
[Goanet] PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARIES A HUGE FINANCIAL BURDEN
A Parliamentary Secretary is an unwarranted heavy financial burden on the State exchequer. By virtue of his cabinet status he is entitled to 11 staff members of his own, besides an official car with red beacon, an office and all other benefits on par with a cabinet Minister. Appointments of Parliamentary Secretaries even under an Act would be a fraud on the Constitution of India being violative of the spirit and intent of the 91st Amendment to the constitution which was meant to restrict the size of the Cabinet and to prevent Jumbo size cabinets. For decades Goa was ably governed by a cabinet of four. How can Chief Minister Mr. Digambar Kamat say that there is tremendous work load in his office and justify the 12 ministers of his jumbo cabinet who are frequently traveling and touring with some of them even having the time to gamble at Casinos. Every Goan knows that Mr. Digambar Kamat is once again for his political survival trying to appoint parliamentary secretaries to accommodate disgruntled MLAs who have not found a slot in the cabinet. During Mr. Digambar Kamat’s regime Goa has witnessed unprecedented administrative chaos and no good governance. The Parliamentary Secretaries bill is just another addition to Digambar Kamat’s long list of bad decisions. Mr. Digambar Kamat should graciously make way for another Chief Minister if he is unable to govern India’s smallest state with a jumbo cabinet of 12. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar
[Goanet] 600th special: Bob Marley Samantha Fox
600th special: Bob Marley Samantha Fox Just found out from a regular viewer.. This is my 600th public clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W85rZtXDPJo Thanks for you patronage. 600 in 3 years that's Av.200 per year i.e. 17/month or 4/week Note: You can always watch in in a new window (new feature) for this, click on the little arrow seen top right of the youtube TV screen My first was 'Susu' Aug. 20th, 2006 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozqp2c1a0iM uploaded at Google Video joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] One a Day is Good for You–Apples and Orgasms!
Below, the British National Health Service emphasizes the importance of safe sex and education. Also see attached 1960s SexEd video. One a Day is Good for You–Apples and Orgasms! http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/141326/one_a_day_is_good_for_you%E2%80%93apples_and_orgasms%21/ + venantius j pinto
[Goanet] Rat study: Krill beats fish omega-3s in battling metabolic dysfunctions
Heard of Krill oil? Reputed to be better that fish oil. Read study results. Con http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Publications/Food-Beverage-Nutrition/NutraIngredients.com/Research/Rat-study-Krill-beats-fish-omega-3s-in-battling-metabolic-dysfunctions
Re: [Goanet] Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans vs. Goa’s Migrants
George, you're giving the anti-migrant arguments a kind of gloss by claiming that you are against migrants because they indulge in illegalities. This is a more sophisticated than Arwin's or Rajan's, but it is as fallacious. I wonder on what grounds you could make assumptions about Goans not indulging in illegalities, and The Other indulging in this? As for Goans in Byculla or Dhobi Talao indulging in illegalities, just talk to Roland Francis, who has documented this well in his write-ups of the Aunties and the illegal liquor industry in that part of town. (Unlike the Shiv Sena, I am not against Goan migration to Mumbai, but am just pointing out that your argument is not based on facts.) Btw, could anyone talking about migration into Goa kindly give me the basis on which they claim that 40% (of some such figure) of Goa is made up of in-migrants? I ask because afaik, the State keeps no details of a person's ethnicity. (The populism-driven promise of 80%-jobs-in-local-industry promised by Luisinho Faleiro and others turned into a complete joke.) The only records that are maintained by the State are based on place-of-birth. At one time, when there were eight members in our household, exactly two were born in Goa itself! So much for all this hot air! If you guys are not careful, I'm sure this debate is going to end up disenfranchising a whole lot of Goans themselves. Just as was the case with the I-love-Konkani-above-all logic pushed in the 1980s and 1990s (which has now ended up in compulsory Konkani at the primary level, in a script and dialect that can be quite foreign for most of its learners). FN 2009/7/19 George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com: No mainstream person is arguing for a zero migrant policy. The issue is should rich and poor migrants come to Goa primarily to support illegal mining and illegal mega-projects. Although the Goan political system facilitates these illegal activities, does not excuse migrant (rich and poor) coming to Goa to foster illegal activity. One justification is that Goans are a small population, and don't swamp other, but get swamped themselves. It all depends on how we frame the issue. I guess if you ask the natives of Byculla or Dhobi Talao what *they* think of Goan migration, the answer would be different. Goans who went to Byculla and Dhobi Talao did not engage in illegal activities.
[Goanet] Goanet highlights: Who or what is a caneco? (Selma Carvalho)
Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho One of the interesting discussion on Goanet has been about the word “canecos”. The Portuguese used this word, often as a racial slur, for Catholic Goans but opinions were divided as to its actual meaning. Here are some of the more interesting viewpoints shared by Goanet members. Gabriel de Figueiredo: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179875.html Bernado Colaco: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179941.html Monica Reis of the Indo-Portuguese Art Research Project: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179934.html Con Menezes: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180027.html Although a consensus was not reached on its actual meaning, there is a strong possibility that it is a corruption of the word “canarims,” the old Portuguese word for people of the Konkan coast. The fact that in Africa, only Catholic Goans were called “canecos” and not the Africans, leads credence to this theory. Another interesting discourse was about the cabaia. Up until the mid-20th century, Goan men often wore a cabaia, a loose fitting gown similar to those worn by Arabs. Was it the last vestige of an Islamic influence that influence Goan men to wear this cabaia or was it something else. Read, two insightful posts on this topic: Alfred de Tavares: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179974.html Fatima Gracias: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180012.html One debate which makes a cyclical appearance on Goanet and which always gets over-heated is the issue of migrants coming into Goa from other part of India. This is a subject which certainly has two sides to it and both have been well defended by members of Goanet: Frederick Noronha: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180209.html Arwin Mesquita: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180213.html George Pinto: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180225.html And speaking of migrations, Valmiki Faleiro, gives us a historical perspective on Goan out-migration. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180222.html For the Konkani aficionado, Lino Dourada, has a : Aitaracheo Katkutleo: TAnchem Pap, Ami Kiteak Divnchi Zap. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180226.html If anyone has a hankering for the glorious Goan monsoon, you can catch a glimpse of it on these excellent photographs by Rajan Parrikar. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180181.html Samir Kelekar shares with us his perspective on the perils of unbridled growth. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180153.html These breathtaking photographs by JoeGoaUK are worth a look if you still yearn for a delectable serving of fish, curry and rice. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180142.html Vidyadhar Gadgil writes about the moving plight of Muslims who seek a burial ground in Goa, in “Dying with dignity.” Cecil Pinto takes a hilarious look at homosexuality in “Homosexuality: the straight truth.” http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179880.html No debate on Goanet has ignited as much fire in recent weeks as the contentious issue of “Foreigners buying property in Goa.” Whichever side your own convictions lie, here are some insightful viewpoints. For a background of the topic, Eddie Fernandes: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179522.html Mario Goveia: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179933.html Freddy Fernandes: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179896.html Pandu Lampiao: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/179730.html Goanet can be accessed by subject at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/subject.html To follow this discuss click on either British citizens buying property in Goa or Foreigners buying land in Goa.
[Goanet] Migration now - insignificant given what is yet about to happen
Up to a point, I suppose it is understandable the feelings of some goans in Goa about being overwhelmed by migrants from other parts of India and foreign countries , and being concerned about the fact that the proportion of goans in Goa in relation to people from other regions, is decreasing very quickly - after all Goa is the smallest State in India! ...but who is attracting all these people to Goa, anyway? who is advertising Goa as the land of wine, women and songs? ...and now gambling! and when the tourists arrive in Goa they find that as far as songs are concerned there are only two songs in Goa - the Deckni and Malhao, malhao (which is a portuguese folk song!).oooh! the shortsighted VISION of our sucessive governments!! Anyway, regarding migration - it is a known fact that we all come originally from AFRICA, so all the heated discussions about migration, I think are interesting but frankly just academic. Things are likely to get worse, much worse, and most probably in our life time, or *for sure* during the life time of our children and grandchildren. CLIMATE CHANGE is about to force mass migrations of entire populations running away from drought, or floods or famine from one place to the other. Under those circumstances we all will have to receive our fellow human beings brothers and sisters from other regions with open arms and provide them with shelter and food if possible, and cope as best as we can with the environmental disasters until it hits Goa too in a big way ..and we find that we too will have to pack our *hatleo potleo* in seacrh of greener pastures.if there are any at all The Russian and Israeli mafia appart, where is our generosity of spirit and humanity, specially towards the very poor migrants who have no alternative but go where ever they can to survive and are forced to live in inhuman conditions in order to build the houses and roads for the rich? Others not so poor come to Goa, for the same reason that led hundreds of thousands of goans to migrated around the world in search of jobs and a better life. Carmen Miranda
[Goanet] (no subject)
I just saw Wendell Rodricks in CNBC's Beautiful people. I must compliment Wendell on the courage of his convictions.Congratulations Wendell!!! As Wendell says, they are not criminals - only people who have a certain sexual preference and I am glad today that by law they can exercise this choice. Homosexuals and lesbians have been there from time immemorial and and because of the severe bias against them, their activities have been performed in a hush hush manner. I remember we had a pair of girls in a hostel in Goa where I was, as a very young girl. Every night they'd land up on the same bed. They were a butt of a lot of jokes. For that matter, how many men and women are living absolutely straight lives (i.e. one man one woman). Is not promiscuity bad? Isn't that abnormal but yet accepted. In fact these are the very people who are idolized by the masses because of their money and glamour.Nobody thinks of the poor innocent children who are victims of these so called marriages.. What a false world we live in!!! Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] ABCD of Football - Lector Mascarenhas (GW)
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) ABCD of Football Sunday, 19. July 2009 - Lector Mascarenhas (GW) The first four alphabets ABCD are crucial in the career of a professional coach today to get to the highest level. In the seventies the first four alphabets, ABCD were made very popular by the famous four of Vasco Sports Club: Andrew, Bernard, Catao and Domnic. Football aficionados in Goa still remember them very fondly even today for their contribution to Goan football. Now, almost three decades later, the same alphabets ABCD are once again very much in the news, albeit for a different reason. In fact, the alphabet 'A' jeopardised the planning and preparation of I-League clubs finding themselves on the wrong side of AFC's criteria and guidelines for recruitment of I-League club coaches. ABC are the three Licence courses offered by the AFC as part of their coach education and as per the latest dictate, all I-League clubs are required to have 'A' Licensed coaches in their squads. Some of the big names drawn in the hit list were former internationals and present coaches Subhas Bhowmick, Sukhvinder Singh, Shabbir Ali. These former players have gained vast experience both as players and coaches of top Indian clubs for several years. What's important, certificate or experience? These are some of the germane questions to be answered by the authorities involved. The out going general secretary Alberto Colaco very forthrightly stated that the standing of these former players cannot be equated with a mere licence and that the AIFF has taken up the matter with the AFC. I am glad this response is on expected lines and deserves to be backed up by all. Lets hope AFC considers this matter sympathetically and enough time and relaxation will be given to these senior coaches to meet the criteria. The 'D' License course is the brain child of the Goa Football Association and our own 'A' Licensed Goan coaches very ably lead by Armando Colaco. A few days back, there was a 'D' License course organised by the GFA at Tilak Maidan in Vasco. As per reports, thirty four coaches have cleared the course successfully and it was heartening to see, three of my former national/international colleagues from Salgaocar Sports Club viz Oscar Rebello, Jose D'Souza and Anton Joao Fernandes, among the successful candidates. They have served the club and the state with distinction. Unlike the AFC courses, there is no age restriction in the 'D' License course which made it possible for these former star players to attend. I would like to pose the same question again - Do only degrees or certificates matter? My reaction to this would be the same as expressed by the AIFF General Secretary. Their standing cannot be equated by acquiring mere certificates. However, these courses DCBA in the ascending order are very important to learn the latest trends/methods and Principles of coaching. They are: Organisation, Start, Observation, Identification of a Problem, Stopping, Rehearsing and Re-Starting. And now having learnt the basics of coaching, I am sure these former players will be an asset for youth development training in Goa. During their playing days these players were known for exhibiting certain technique/skills which I would like to recollect with nostalgia - Oscar Rebello - a stopper-back, had great sense of timing in tackling, Jose D'Souza - a Midfielder - had the ability to use both feet for timely shifting the flanks of play and Anton Joao Fernandes - a Forward - could beat any defender in one-on-one situation by flicking a dead ball over a defender. I believe when it comes to training youngsters, a good demonstration of a technique/skill is a job half done. I happen to be the secretary of Goa Veterans Football Club and bringing back veteran players back into the game for training youngsters is one of our objectives. I am aware that not all good players necessarily make good coaches but you never know, till you try. Armando Colaco, the AFC instructor and the man heading the Technical Committee of GFA, is also very enthusiastic to conduct this 'D' Licence course all over Goa. GFA has done well by starting the Fun stage (6 to 10 year olds) at several centres in Goa and I am sure all these centres will also get to hold the 'D' Licence course so that PE teachers more importantly around these centres and former players get the opportunity to undertake this course in the locality. I request the GFA to also recognise, these former players who have donned Senior National/International colours and passed the 'D' License course, as qualified coaches equivalent to the 'C License course' so that they can formally appear as licensed coaches in all GFA organised football events. They have the experience which one cannot gain in seven, twenty or one month. I also hope, the AFC will also relax the age limit for all former State (seniors)/International players to help them take
[Goanet] Konkani Film: Atancheo Sunom released
C. Alvares films in association with Ashterwayne Productions, released their new konkani video film 'Atancheo Sunom' produced Directed by Capucina Alvares, daughter of yesteryears superstar the late. Mr C. Alvares on thursday 16th July 2009 at the Holy Cross Shrine, Bambolim, Goa. The film has been co-produced and marketed by Ashterwayne Productions. Rev Fr. Raymond Antao released the film. Also present at the event were family and friends. The film is availabe on VCD all over Goa. Alternatively it can be purchased online from www.ashterwayne.com or www.angelav.com PHOTO: www.goanet.org SOURCE: Ashterwayne Productions Goanet AE www.goanet.org
[Goanet] Re.Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans vs. Goa?s
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:38:43 +0530 Response to Fredricks Statement: “If you guys are not careful, I'm sure this debate is going to end updisenfranchising a whole lot of Goans themselves. Just as was the case with the I-love-Konkani-above-all logic pushed in the 1980s and1990s (which has now ended up in compulsory Konkani at the primary level, in a script and dialect that can be quite foreign for most ofits learners). FN” Response from Arwin: Actually, I think we Guys are not careful, live in denial about he issues facing Goa Goans; like “Ostriches with our heads in the sand” we do not need to worry about Fredrick’s statement about ‘disenfranchising a whole lot of Goans themselves’ as then the term “Goan” will no longer be relevant!! -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
Re: [Goanet] Migration now - insignificant given what is yet about tohappen
I must say that Carmen's line of thought process and a clear mind that generates such jewel thoughts ( there have been quite a few Goans on the same wave lenght like Carmen though) is/has been missing from Goa related preservation debates, thereby creating a vacuum to suck in 'hate migrant' mania. Carmen is right. We have heard of the 'gold rush' of yore. No GOLD, no RUSH. Period. And man has always been aspiring for the greener grass elsewhere wanting to improve his lot. But then there is something called the 'laws of the land'. And the most beautiful thing that we have in Goa is DEMOCRACY where we ourselves can frame such self-preserving laws, that is, if we can muster a general consensus without been seen as trying to build a cacoon. Let us start by formulating laws that will open our beautiful land Goa to the whole world but not allowing anyone to take undue advantage of the goodness. As an example we might want to look at the Gulf regions and their laws. It is inevitable that there is gold there and therefore the rush. Gulf regions are full of migrants. They are needed and they are wooed. But do they hate them?? Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Carmen Miranda carmitamira...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: [Goanet] Migration now - insignificant given what is yet about tohappen Up to a point, I suppose it is understandable the feelings of some goans in Goa about being overwhelmed by migrants from other parts of India and foreign countries , and being concerned about the fact that the proportion of goans in Goa in relation to people from other regions, is decreasing very quickly - after all Goa is the smallest State in India! ...but who is attracting all these people to Goa, anyway? who is advertising Goa as the land of wine, women and songs? ...and now gambling! and when the tourists arrive in Goa they find that as far as songs are concerned there are only two songs in Goa - the Deckni and Malhao, malhao (which is a portuguese folk song!).oooh! the shortsighted VISION of our sucessive governments!! Anyway, regarding migration - it is a known fact that we all come originally from AFRICA, so all the heated discussions about migration, I think are interesting but frankly just academic. Things are likely to get worse, much worse, and most probably in our life time, or *for sure* during the life time of our children and grandchildren. CLIMATE CHANGE is about to force mass migrations of entire populations running away from drought, or floods or famine from one place to the other. Under those circumstances we all will have to receive our fellow human beings brothers and sisters from other regions with open arms and provide them with shelter and food if possible, and cope as best as we can with the environmental disasters until it hits Goa too in a big way ..and we find that we too will have to pack our *hatleo potleo* in seacrh of greener pastures.if there are any at all The Russian and Israeli mafia appart, where is our generosity of spirit and humanity, specially towards the very poor migrants who have no alternative but go where ever they can to survive and are forced to live in inhuman conditions in order to build the houses and roads for the rich? Others not so poor come to Goa, for the same reason that led hundreds of thousands of goans to migrated around the world in search of jobs and a better life. Carmen Miranda
[Goanet] over-450-illegal-land-deals-by-foreigners
Dear Goans here are some goveerment figures and some brife of goas Population and its area http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/938-over-450-illegal-land-deals-by-foreigners Population of GOA 1,400,000 (25th) 363 /km2 (940 /sq mi) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_India_by_population Area 3,702 km² (1,429 sq mi) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E%2B9_m²
[Goanet] Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans vs. Goa?s Migrants
Goa has no conditions to support this incoming population. Unless it is ok for you that they shite and pis all over the place. Not for like minded Goans please! BC Goa for Goans Whatever we may say, it is ironic that those who migrate the most from Goa (UAE, US, Bahamas, wherever) also tend to be the most critical migrants into Goa. One justification is that Goans are a small population, and don't swamp other, but get swamped themselves. It all depends on how we frame the issue. I guess if you ask the natives of Byculla or Dhobi Talao what *they* think of Goan migration, the answer would be different.
[Goanet] Re.Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans vs. Goa?s
I am not yet sure I agree with either Frederick or Arwin. However, I understand the basis of Arwin's statement. I do not know - the basis for Frederick's 'uncouched warning'. Perhaps, he will advise appropriately. Who are the you guys who need to be careful? What is the (FN) recommended method of 'carefulness? Just shut up and behave yourselves? And HOW, is this debate on GoaNet 'going to end up disenfranchising a whole lot of Goans themselves' ? Are they following this debate on the various Bihar Railway stations?.Ready to migrate in even greater numbers IF these you guys do not watch it? What happened . Salazar came back in another avatar ? ...or is it He never left Goa? By jove (or zuze) FN, I'd say that you might as well return to some new made up story about some Siddi on another Daman bridge. Even that bogus set of stories makes better sense than what you have scripted infra. jc === Frederick Noronha wrote: “If you guys are not careful, I'm sure this debate is going to end up disenfranchising a whole lot of Goans themselves. Just as was the case with the I-love-Konkani-above-all logic pushed in the 1980s and1990s (which has now ended up in compulsory Konkani at the primary level, in a script and dialect that can be quite foreign for most of its learners). FN” Arwin Mesquitta wrote: Actually, I think we Guys are not careful, live in denial about he issues facing Goa Goans; like “Ostriches with our heads in the sand” we do not need to worry about Fredrick’s statement about ‘disenfranchising a whole lot of Goans themselves’ as then the term “Goan” will no longer be relevant!!
[Goanet] KGA to organize 8-a-side Football Tournament on 23th July
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994) Kuwait Goan Association to organize 8-a-side Football Tournament Kuwait-Goan Association is proud to be announce their forthcoming 8-a-side football tournament on Thursday, 23rd July 2009, from 5:00 p.m. onwards at the Salmiya Grounds, Opp. Citizen Supermarket. [Ashanta Fernandes presenting a bouquet to chief guest, Milagres D'Mello who has been flown from Muscat - a resident of Maina, Curtorim] [KIFF League 2008-09 highest scorer Josse Fernandes of KGA seen left receiving the ball from KGA goalkeeper Conceisao Rodrigues] With 20 Teams confirming their participation, the tourney is sure to be an exciting venture with lots of surprise gifts for the attendees. [Seen: Right - Tome Gracias flanked by Milagres D'Mello (Centre) and KGA President Salvador Dias - Extreme left is A.Fidelis Fernandes, KGA Advisor] Kuwait Goan Association football team is currently sponsored by Churchill Bros. For more details contact KGA - 67063958 / 67031425
[Goanet] Music from the Goan world ... rendered in style on the piano
Here's wishing Goanetter Francis Rodrigues all the best: Mollbailo Dou http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHtdqmIskF8feature=related Claudia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20GX2Xhh9U0feature=related Sweater Kori http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGm6ML12AIQfeature=related Cadiza za za Olha Policia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKDmir-maJI Encosta Tua Cabecinha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37_tY9_9xDo Tambdde Roza (sax) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuyUeHs2w_Ufeature=related ... among others. Comments/feedback to Francis Rodrigues fcarodrig...@hotmail.com -- FN * http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/fn M +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 http://fredericknoronha.multiply.com/ http://goa1556.goa-india.org Real programmers can write assembly code in any language. - Larry Wall
[Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Can somebody let us know his no? I'd be glad to call him up or ask his higher ups at Panaji. I think i have rama velip's phone no. Rama surely must have Phaldessai's phone no. Clinton.. +91 9890936828 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:19:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: 300528.21269...@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ashley writes: Dear Goanetters, It's a shame that Rama Velip of Colamb village is being harassed. Can Goanet do something for him. Ashley Can we have Phaldessai's number ? We can definitely call him and ask him under what law is he making midnight calls ? If ten people call, it will surely have an effect.
[Goanet] Difference: Gulf Non Resident Goans v s. Goa’s Migrants
Those arguing for controls on migration into Goa keep on harping on the following points: 1. There are controls over the number of people that can enter into a country like USA, UK, Canada. 2. There are controls over the number of people who can come on temporary work permits to the Gulf. 3. In-migrants into Goa are engaged in illegal activities 4. in-migrants into Goa are dirtying up the place with their unhygienic habits 5. the demographic character of the state is changing and goans are becoming a minority in their own state. A major flaw in the arguments of those proposing controls on migration into Goa is that of equating IMMIGRATION into countries like USA, Canada, UK or elsewhere or obtaining work permits in the Gulf with that of free flow/ migration of Indian nationals within the country. Just as a national in any free democratic country can move freely anywhere within the country so also in India which professes to be a free, democratic country. It is only in communist countries like China that there can be controls over the movement of people. Even in JK, HP and the North East there is no restriction on movement of people except in the disturbed areas where special security laws prevail. Article 370 and 371 only restrict the acquisition of land by non-residents of the state. And for those who want to circumvent the law, there are even ways of acquiring property in these places. It is a fact of life that people will gravitate to places which afford them a better quality of life or provide a higher standard of living or where there are better employment opportunities or better educational facilities. That is precisely why goans have moved to countries like USA, Canada, UK, Australia, NZ and the Gulf. And this is precisely why others are moving into Goa. Goa has been heading or within the top three bracket in the development and per capita income index. This is a sure attraction for those from less developed states. Add to this the singular absence of goan masons, carpenters, mechanics, electricians, maids etc. We need to be practical and realistic and accept that in-migration is going to happen come what may. What is needed are mitigating factors to ensure that Goa does not go down the Bombay way (of breeding slums). For this the laws on illegal construction, illegal mining, squatting on public spaces, littering, illegally approving building plans need to be strictly enforced. But then who is going to bell the cat? Who is going to confront the moneybags, the builders, corrupt politicians, corrupt businessmen? Poor and illiterate labour are soft targets everywhere. Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Fr Cedric Prakash
I refer to Rajiv Desai's post on Fr Cedric Prakash. Persons like Fr Cedric Prakash or Medha Patkar are a rarity. They do not have any political affiliations or harbour any political ambitions or seek to build vote banks. They are selfless and committed individuals who are trying to make a difference to society. They prefer to light a candle to banish the darkness rather than play politics or preach or just criticise. Standing up for the downtrodden or the marginalised or victimised is no joke. The odds are strongly against you. Most people prefer to sail with the tide. And in a highly polarised society like Gujarat, even the victims of violence prefer maintaining a stoic silence to avoid further misfortunes. Hence, I am not surprised to learn that even christians in Gujarat are not great supporters of Fr Cedric. This is the way of the world. People generally like to sway in the direction of the wind. Even Jesus Christ was deserted by his disciples in his hour of need. His closest disciple even denied knowing Him in order to save his own skin. Medha Patkar is an alumni of TISS and I understand a Gold Medalist. She could have easily opted for a cushy corporate job and could have been earning a fat 6 figure salary today. However, she has opted to give to society and has been fighting a lonely battle for the Narmada oustees. If today, the plight of the Narmada oustees has been recognised and accepted and they have been given some compensation and/or land it is largely due to the fight put up by Medha Patkar on their behalf. People like Fr Cedric Prakash and Medha Patkar should be beacons for all of us if we are really keen in having a just and fair society. It is a fact of life that there can be peace only if there is justice. Where there is no justice, there will never be peace. Regarding the Congress Party, I am sorry to say that the Congress Party of today is not the same as the Congress of Gandhiji and Nehru. Gandhiji and Nehru led from the front. During the partition riots as well as during the riots in Noakali, Gandhiji went on a fast unto death which brought the riots and killings to an immediate halt. Is there any leader today in the country who can command such respect or such moral force? The Congress Party has been running with the hares while hunting with the hounds. The locks of the Babri Masjid were opened on the orders of the Congress. The Congress opened its election campaign in 1984 by performing shilanyas at the site of the Babri Masjid. The make shift Ram temple was built after the Kalyan Singh ministry was dismissed and UP was under President's rule. It is a matter of shame that the killers of innocent sikhs in 1984 have not yet been brought to justice even after 25 years. No action has been taken on the Shrikrishna Commission Report even after 17 years. Anti - Conversion bills were passed by the Congress in MP, Orissa, Arunachal Pradesh and HP. Under the circumstances, I am not surprised to hear that Fr Cedric Prakash's view that people were voting for the Congress only because of a lack of a better alternative. This is true for many people. Rajiv Desai has not elaborated on the role and contribution of the Congress during and after the 2002 genocide of muslims. I wish he had done so as it would have given us a better perspective why Fr Cedric Prakash was sceptical about the Congress campaign and was reluctant to associate himself with it. If Fr Cedric Prakash was considered an outsider, Mallika Sarabhai a distinguished daughter of Gujarat is treated no better. FN, I believe Fr Cedric Prakash hails from Mangalore. Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Samir's idea is sharp and implementable--and should be appreciated. Thanks Samir. Perhaps also the address of the Police Station. Even if letters were written and cced to the media, the chances of embarassing or rendering human -- Shri Phaldessai is quite high. ++ It is disheartening, whenever I am in Goa, hearing people talk big things about change and koko meme--very little is said in terms of doing ones mite--that little bit that could make one a better person. NOTE: I am largely talking of those of us who live abroad. If you need all your money for yourself, at least consider a letter, a yell, a scream, a walk through Panjim with a placard saying something even as simple as Where is the Goa I remember. I know, I know, hin kalpana mhojim mhojem burgeponn dakonn dita. Zait ghodek mhojem nadanponn-ui. Bamtya bhaxen jivit jiyet tor tumchi poristhti dukhest and paist zateli. Nissonton zatolem amcher nhoim zalear, amchya kuliyer. Rama Velip amcho bhav ani Goycho laguullo (rooted in Goa), ani techer bhiyankul dabhav ghatla to amchea dollea mukhar dovorya; kann diuya. Niyal korat--patkan Pai-chim, Azo (Xapaichim)/Ponzo/ Khapor Ponzo, veglea veglea purvozanchim, tim maguir khavunk yetelim. (basically, sins of our fathers). ++ venantius j pinto Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:19:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: 300528.21269...@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ashley writes: Dear Goanetters, It's a shame that Rama Velip of Colamb village is being harassed. Can Goanet do something for him. Ashley Can we have Phaldessai's number ? We can definitely call him and ask him under what law is he making midnight calls ? If ten people call, it will surely have an effect. samir --
[Goanet] Employment Solutions - GOA
Employment Solutions – Goahttp://goanidentity.blogspot.com/2008/06/employment-solutions-goa.html I left Goa “temporarily” reluctantly, due to lack of opportunities. Many with me agree the need, to seriously address, opportunities in Goa for Goans passing out annually from various educational bodies. We could also create opportunities for Goan’s to return home. Lack of opportunities in Goa, is one main reason for our Identity Erosion. But I don’t support proposals which employ’s Majority Non-Goans without safeguards; to an extent that Goan/Goa is no longer relevant!! I hear views advocating a one-track approach for development; at times with the Globalisation view. I think with the latter, we loose focus on the Objective i.e. “Opportunities for Goans with a balanced need to preserve Goan Identity”. There has to be ways that works best for us. With Respect, its not campaign against. Non-Goans but safeguards are must to preserve our Identity. Let’s debate, discuss agree a model that works for Goa. We need to think strategically with a vision avoid quick fixes. Let’s think differently agree solutions that could also be a model for other threatened Identities. We should Think Global but Act Local. We can set up a High Level Expert Committee with key people from (A) Government (B) Local Experts (3) Goans returned home (4) Overseas Goans(I think many spend considerable time in Goa) (4). This committee can use multiple ways to agree solutions; one could be open forums where opinions are raised, shared common points are agreed and at least start to be done in parts. Forums could be by (A) Holding Area wise meetings in Goa (B) Identify Key times when Many Overseas Goans are home then have meetings with Goans in Goa. Please appreciate the need to be united in this effort to do what we agree, is best for Goa Goan identity. I can volunteer my time from abroad or when in Goa for the same. When next in Goa, I’ll try meeting with Key Goans to push for idea. I have already contacted NRI Commissioners Office, to get their views/support. Of course if anyone has better idea/different approach, they are welcome to propose. It is high time we stop discussing all that we cannot do and look at what we CAN DO for Goa Goans. Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. Rape of Chicalim : http://rapeofchicalim.wordpress.com/ 4. Boycott Cidade de Goa : http://boycotthotelcidadedegoa.blogspot.com/ 5. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 6. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
[Goanet] (no subject)
Well put Bernice. There are relationships and relationships. They are homosexuals who do not sleep with each other or anyone else. I mean sleep in the sense of penetration. Period. I point this out only because sleep has such divergent connotation and denotations. But they live with each other, share meals, hug each other, take care of each other when sick, look good for each other--under one roof, or live separately. I have friends who are scholars and they are married (as in husband and wife) but do not sleep in the same bed. They are heterosexuals. They are not retarded or anything. Perhaps they are old royalty. : ) Perhaps asexual if that matters. Other than that, all married people do not have sex. Some sustain themselves not through sex, nor any form towards procreation in terms of rearing progeny an having some extra. Their minds move differently. They see things others do not. They are not better, only a little different. Then there are the grand male (I am talking of older pedigreed Goans) beings who think they are so liberal but make one sick just seeing them exfoliate upon the other sex. Weddings are their haunts as I believe are foreign jaunts. Some are totally grounded in their being. Some do not take the vow to be faithful to each other (and that too in a Catholic marriage), but stay the course. Note that the above does not in any form imply that they are seeking gratification elsewhere, and if that happens the house does not collapse. And if it happened its not a balls-to-the-wall scenario, as in craving--must have it. Do not ask why. Its pointless to get into that. Not in India per se, but many of us have to come up to snuff with the idea of relationships, in whatever form marriage takes. I also believe that many things we do are choices. One of my colleagues told me last Friday, she believe her 81 year old grandmother is having a grand time. I do not doubt her at all. But imagine what our people would think if their mothers wanted to have some, at say even 70. How about with a much younger guy. Besides the other implications, would they consider the younger person perverted, or would they just be happy for their mothers, or would they feel their mother was cheating on their dead father, or that the man was after the family khazana. Sexuality is a moving constant and there is a constancy to its call. It tell a bit about someone but never much, although people pride themselves on being able to do so. I knew men who had taken the trouble to have sex with eunuchs. One just before he got married. But if one were to suggest that it could be a form of homosexuality, bisexuality or even poly sexuality, they would split someones skull. I believe these are things in their past, unless they are being moved differently now. What happens inside bedrooms is something that should least concern us, unless we wish to emulate and if so there are books, and dictionaries. venantius j pinto Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:39:51 +0530 (IST) From: Bernice Pereira bernicepere...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] (no subject) I remember we had a pair of girls in a hostel in Goa where I was, as a very young girl.? Every night? they'd land up on the same bed.? They were a butt of a lot of jokes. ? ? For that matter, how many men and women are living absolutely straight lives (i.e. one man one woman). Is not promiscuity bad? Isn't that abnormal but yet accepted.? In fact these are the very people who are idolized by the masses because of their money and glamour.Nobody thinks of the poor innocent children who are victims of these so called marriages.. ? ? What a false world we live in!!! ? ? ? ? ? ?
[Goanet] Daily Grook #471
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[Goanet] One of my favourite sweet dishes
One of my favourite but simple sweet dishes http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3727824890/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Workshop on River Sal draws up a comprehensive action plan.
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help CONSUMERS in Goa to be better informed. Workshop on River Sal draws up a comprehensive action plan. The problems facing River Sal are many and requires that we all work together so that we can help each other sort out the problems and this river can be restored to its former glory, thereby becoming an example of public service and community partnership. The Goa State Pollution Control Board (GSPCB) will be pro active with regards the protection of River Sal. said Dr. Simon D'Souza, Chairman, Goa State Pollution Control Board. Dr. D'Souza was speaking at the inaugural session of the Workshop on the Restoration and Protection of River Sal organised by the Benaulim Environment Trust and the Goa Civic and Consumer Action Network (GOACAN) held on Sunday 5th July at the Don Bosco Youth Animation Centre, Benaulim. In his welcome address Mr. Agnelo Fernandes, Chairman of the Benaulim Environment Trust (BET) gave a brief background of the documentation work of the Trust from 2001 with regards the pollution of the River Sal with the assistance of students scientists from Sweden. Mr. Roland Martins Co-ordinator GOACAN in an overview of the Workshop stressed that involving all stakeholders in the Restoration and Protection of River Sal is crucial. He stated that the Village Panchayats, Margao Municipal Council, the Govt. Depts. NGO's and the educational institutions must take advantage of the opportunities available in the next two years to achieve results. Dr. Manoj Borkar from Biodiversity Research Cell, Carmel College speaking on the River Sal Project Proposal highlighted the need for a comphrensive approach for the restoration of the river. He gave a detailed presentation on the technical and non technical steps that need to be taken to transform the environmental problems affecting the river into opportunities for economic and social development. In the Govt. Agencies panel discussion moderated by Clinton Vaz, Secretary (BET), Mr.Y.B.Tavde Chief Officer Margao Municipal Council described the steps taken till date with regards pollution in the river caused by sewarage discharge from Housing complexes and other establishments. He called for citizens co-operation in making the sewarage system functional and effective. Mr. Arvind S. Salelkar Supdt. Engineer of the Water Resources Department (WRD) explained the works undertaken by the Dept. for protection of the rivers and other water bodies. He also emphasised the importance of ground water protection and rain water harvesting. Mr. Sanjeev Joglekar Asst. Environment Engineer of the Goa State Pollution Control Board explained the role of the Board as an Environment Protection Agency and informed that water samples have already been collected for examination. The over 65 participants at the Workshop in group discussions listed important activities and interventions related to the Restoration Protection of River Sal. The group reports were presented by Dr. K.G. Hiremath , Cyriaco Barreto, Dr. Sanjay D. Gaikwad, Xavier Cota, Dr. Nandkumar N. Sawant and Rosario D'Costa. The workshop had participation from the Civic and Consumer Forums of Velim, Betalbatim, Raia, Davorlim, Nuvem, Seraulim, Colva, Navelim, Majorda Benaulim, the Botanical Society of Goa (BSG), Citizens Welfare Committee (CWC) Margao, Navelchea Xetkarieancho Ekvott (NXE), South Goa Public Interest Action Group (SGPIAG), Organic Farming Association of India (OFAI), Sarpanch of Village Panchayats of Ambelim Carmona, lecturers students of Smt. Parvatibai Chowgule College Shree Damodar Higher Secondary School of Science Margao Agnel Polytechnic Verna. The highlights of the action plan included a follow up on the investigations by the Goa State Pollution Control Board (GSPCB) and the directives of the South Goa District Disaster Management Authority, an Environment Awareness Campaign in November followed by a River Sal Festival, setting up of email discussion forum, Blog and Website, review of existing legislation with the Goa Law Commission, a Campus program for student projects, mobilisation of Gram Sabhas in July, August and October on issues affecting River Sal, steps to ensure protection to the water source at Verna and an effective Waste Management Program along the river bank. A photo exhibition by Siddharth Karapurkar of the Navelim Civic and Consumer Forum highlighting the various aspects affecting the River Sal like contamination, encroachment, waste dumping, choking by weeds etc was on display at the workshop. Mr.Tony Corriea Afonso founder Trustee of the Benaulim Environment Trust delivered the vote of thanks.
Re: [Goanet] Music from the Goan world ... rendered in style on the piano
Nice work, Fred ! Our viewers listeners will be delighted. Rgds, Alex Silveira, ex-Qatar, now settled in Goa. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Frederick FN Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote: Here's wishing Goanetter Francis Rodrigues all the best: Mollbailo Dou http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHtdqmIskF8feature=related Claudia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20GX2Xhh9U0feature=related Sweater Kori http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGm6ML12AIQfeature=related
Re: [Goanet] Fr Cedric Prakash
--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Persons like Fr Cedric Prakash or Medha Patkar are a rarity.They prefer to light a candle to banish the darkness rather than play politics or preach or just criticise. This is a very disingenuous assertion. Fr. Cedric Prakash is a Catholic priest. He is supposed to preach his religion to the masses. He is a regular contributor to religious news services such as South Asia Religious News, in which he criticizes the government, as well. Please see: http://www.sarnews.in/details.php?n=1110 From his writings and from the post of Rajiv Desai it is clear that he is also politically active, in opposition to the Congress and Bharatiya Janata parties. Moreover, Mr. Desai claimed the following from his own personal experience regarding Fr. Prakash's political associations: I arranged as meeting for the Congress campaign team with him and his band of activists, mostly left-wing ideologues and jholewalas from outside Gujarat. Rajiv Desai Please see http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180139.html Mr. Desai might want to clarify to which left-wing party these ideologues belonged. There is nothing wrong in being a political activist. What I see as problems in a secular democracy, however, are: 1) The mixing of religion with activism and politics, and 2) Playing and taking advantage of religious identity politics The latter is as bad as vote banks. The following assertion is especially instructive in this regard: Hence, I am not surprised to learn that even christians in Gujarat are not great supporters of Fr Cedric. Marshall Mendonza Please note the implicit assumption above that Christians, by definition, are supposed to be great supporters of Fr. Cedric. I say the fact that they are not, speaks to their greatness. It gives me hope that Indian Christians and non-Christians have finally learned to value independent thinking, and reject the impulses of conditioned communal groupism. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
[Goanet] Goa news for July 20, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa law commission suggests amendments in tenants act - Press Trust of India ecade-old acts to give rights of property to the tenants in the state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ptinews.com/news/178187_Goa-law-commission-suggests-amendments-in-tenants-actusg=AFQjCNFPH0Gzz5Uu2dF3MqR8fsU5B2FQHA *** Goa not doing enough for swine flu patients, says nodal officer - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa health department's nodal officer for swine flu on Sunday alleged that the state health authorities were not cooperating with him and not ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Goa-Goa-not-doing-enough-for-swine-flu-patients-says-nodal-officer-/articleshow/4795483.cmsusg=AFQjCNFTsatdx-YuQMpAgLjvIxWhQ40gug *** Serial killer charge-sheeted by Goa police - Press Trust of India heeted by Goa police http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ptinews.com/news/181196_Serial-killer-charge-sheeted-by-Goa-policeusg=AFQjCNFwvsjV6F8pnGxOMGrGAG1gddeNJw *** Eze Must Be Punished For Cheating - Sporting Clube De Goa - Goal.com 7-07-2009-003.htmusg=AFQjCNETRIarXBCt3z9EUZic8BSgi2fvEAFIFA fine Indian club over Nigerian star http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/136/india/2009/07/17/1387816/eze-must-be-punished-for-cheating-sporting-clube-de-goausg=AFQjCNH5AnuM9mCU-TJUAwSaFYX9odBlnA *** Grants.gov has Serious Weaknesses, Says GOA - IT Business Edge and more » http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/community/news/gt/blog/grantsgov-has-serious-weaknesses-says-goa/?cs=34219usg=AFQjCNGzF2_jiCISAavqA4vNSxKgWSewDw *** \'Goa\' gang mobbed in Malaysia - IndiaGlitz diaGlitzWith almost half the film's shoot being completed, the crew of director Venkat Prabhu's 'Goa' has proceeded to shoot in Malaysia. The film has Jai, ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/48396.htmlusg=AFQjCNFedzphwB4cY86wln8ih5F5wZS_Zw *** Goa Chief Secretary favours speedy disposal of files - Hindu rdinates not to keep government files pending for more than seven days. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200907181331.htmusg=AFQjCNG5jNHJxjSBd21HX8toGUOLhPPKlA *** Animal lovers keen to guard Goa\'s forests - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The killing of a cow by a tiger reported recently in a forest area near Amboli, barely 35 km from Goa's border at Dodamarg, has stirred the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4791112.cmsusg=AFQjCNG5Cwbs0OYREPUfovnxd89eSN1opg *** Sexual harassment case: GU asked to give report in 7 days - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa state commission for women has asked the Goa University to submit the report of the prevention of sexual harassment committee indicting the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Goa-Sexual-harassment-case-GU-asked-to-give-report-in-7-days/articleshow/4796336.cmsusg=AFQjCNFgIoCCGhTS6KBB9fzKM6knpw8TpQ *** Cops unable to trace issing Russian - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: More than six months after Russian national, Victor Pomerantsev, who was staying in Goa without valid documents, was discharged from the Institute ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Goa-Cops-unable-to-trace-issing-Russian/articleshow/4796334.cmsusg=AFQjCNG0WL--BG-j8gkiL7qOUSIGU3J_KQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Retiring In Goa
Coming back home is a dream we all cherish. Especially, when it's time to retire and hang up your boots. But there's always the worry - about the change of lifestyle/relocating/backup support systems, and the facilities and comfort you're used to in your adopted country. My wife Tomoko (Japanese) and I returned to Goa 17 years ago and set up home and a company here - Homes Estates. As Goa's leading property consultants, we also started a magazine, Goa's oldest property and building trade guide. Today among our other popular publications are FindAll-Goa, a monthly events and entertainment guide and Goa Maps. We're nearing our retirement now, and while we're home, we realized there wasn't a senior citizen friendly place here that would address our every need - including the lifestyle we're used to and the independence we long for. That is when I decided, with our long years of experience in the business, to build a world-class Retirement Village that would not only have the amenities for a comfortable and secure retired life, but would incorporate the physical, psychological and emotional environment for a rewarding old age. Bougainvilla-Hermitage Retirement Village has now taken root in picturesque Nachinola, 5 kms from Mapusa. It will be ready in August 2011 and we believe it will fulfill a long-cherished dream of Goans the world over - to retire in their beloved land without compromise to their lifestyle. We have attached the press release as well as the link to our website (www.bougainvilla-hermitage.com) and would appreciate if you could spread the good news within your community. Looking forward to your support and reply. Thanks and take care. Sincerely, Michael Lobo. World class retirement Village coming up in Goa. Bougainvilla-Hermitage is going to be the first Retirement Village in Goa, offering apartments on outright sale only to Senior Citizens. The Village has 60 apartments on sale - Studio-579sq.ft., Rs.16.2 lakhs, Superior-869sq.ft., Rs.24.3 lakhs and Executive-1158sq.ft., Rs.32.4 lakhs. The Village is an ideal size to create a close-knit community. Here personal care and service will reach out to each and every resident. This will fill a deep felt need for a comfortable, secure, dignified life, with senior friendly equipment and facilities. All apartments are air-conditioned, fitted with modular kitchens, wheelchair accessible toilets; grab rails, bigger size switches, emergency alarms, etc. Besides, the Village will have an infirmary, ambulance service, restaurant, swimming pool, health club and spa, wheelchair elevators, prayer and meditation hall, and other services. Bougainvilla Hermitage is coming up in the tiny village of Nachinola, 5km from Mapusa, in North Goa. To preserve Goan identity and nature, the Village is being built in the Goan-Portuguese style and will adhere to strict eco-friendly norms, where many known and time tested Green technologies will be deployed, such as rain water harvesting, solar water heating, sewage and garbage treatment, solar lighting, etc. The aim of this Village is to provide an environment where, one is independent but not alone and can enjoy a retired life with like minded people. Personal growth takes priority here - regular entertainment programmes, fitness and cultural activities will be organized by the management and residents. The Village is now open for booking and will be ready for occupation in 24 months. www.bougainvilla-hermitage.com Call: 9890701936 / 9923726168
Re: [Goanet] British citizens buying property in Goa
Dear George, My responses are preceded with ** Your quotations are preceded by **On 16 July you wrote: in many cases some builders refuse to sell to Goans... **So, how many is some? Can you name and shame many? Or some? Or many of some? You now write: IF a legal transaction occurred . I would be outraged. **Now your outrage is peppered with ifs and butts! It is my contention too that one innocent party is one too many. Then you ask: But I question HOW MANY . were legal. **Are we back to many of some? You then go on to accept that it is difficult for me to believe than more than a handful were legal. **So is a handful some of many or many of some? Surely it must be more than one! If so, can we get to see your display of outrage, please? You then ask: How many of these builders/sellers/agents . come to London at the Tourism mart, comply with the law? ** 100% since builders/sellers/agents do not come to the London Tourism Mart! ** Take care - your bias is showing! Best wishes Eddie Fernandes
[Goanet] AIR: Our old time ‘doton’
AIR: Our old time ‘doton’ I am sure, the present generation do not learn the same ‘doton’ (Catechism) we leant at our time. (AIR) As I remember... We used to get lot of beatings from the Pe.vigar. I still remember our Pe. Vigar hitting on our heads with the Church Door big Key (Heavy metal key about 400-500g and about 6 inch long) (Chavi- as seen on Chavi Match box). The typical ‘dotorn’ or ‘doton’ of our time was.. DEU KITLE ASAT? Ans: Ek DEU KHUIM ASA? Ans, Sogle Suater (to the abv ans., sometimes, the same priest would ask.. DEU MADDACHER ASA?) And we said NO. for this I got one stroke of key on my head. When we were caught playing mischief, the priest often said ‘ POLLE KOSO DEUCHAR TANCHEA KANANT XEMPDDI GALTA POI TO’ We were often told, if we make ‘patok’ (sin) we would go to ‘ifern’ (hell). After death, we either go to ‘Purgator-int, ifern-ant or sorg-ar’ Except infants go to ‘Lima’ DEU EK PUNN ZONN TIN Bap, Putr ani Ispisant (Father, son and the Holy Spirit). DHA MADAMENT (10 Commandments) Ekleach Devak sorpott poddun nomoskar korcho ani soglea kallan tacho mog korcho Chorum naye, peleache vostumchi axa korum naye Avoi-Bapaik Man diumcho Peleachem naum bestem uboun naye etc etc (pl continue or correct me). Devacho dis tache kuxe pormonnem samballcho (pl correct or add more) AMCHEA BAPA TUM SOGAR AHA, TUJEM NANV VHODD ZAUM.. AMCHO DISPOTTO IGRAS AMKAM DHI.. NOMAN MURIYE KURPEM BORLOLE, SUAMI DEU TUJE THAIM ASA.. SANTAN MURIYE, DEVACHE MAYE, AM-PAPIYAM VINOTI KOR.. ONOD BABAP, PUTAK ANI ISPI SANTANK ZOSO ADIN, ANTAN ANI SODANCH SORVOTA. AMEN (Note: the above is now practiced with newer version. E.g. 'Suami Dev' now change to ‘Sorvespor’, ‘Onod Bapak’ now become MHOIMA BAPAK, Tujem naum vhodd zaum has not become tujem naum POVITR zaum, ‘Santan Muriye’ now ‘BHAGIVONTI MORIE’ etc etc) Besides, the regular above, the foll was also compulsory to lean by heart (like a parrot) SOT MANDITAM Deva Bapak HANV PATKI SORVONITAN Tuka Rannie (There was another one but I can’t recollect now, can you?) MISTER (pro. Mist-yer) SONTOSACHE MISTER HORKACHE MISTER DUKICHE MISTER SAT (7) SACRAMENT I remember this.. We had to repeat after the Pe.vigar Poilo: Bautiszm Dusro: Kumsar Tisro: Kumnianv Chouto: Krizm Panchvo: Ord(i) Sovo: Sontesao And when it comes to the last one i.e. ‘Satvo’ we used to say is louder ‘KAZAR’ DOYAL KORNIO Kuddicheo Sat (ou panch?) Otmeacheo Sat e.g. Dukestank buzvonn diumchi Bhukleleank jevonn diumchem (Tanneleank Piunk diumchem) Meloleank Matiek lauchim Bonnkonnint asleliank bhett diumchi (Some years ago, we went to Aguada Jail but they did not let us in saying we need to bring a letter from the IGP) Now, this is what I found out recently when I went to watch Tiatr ‘Hanv Porot Etelim’. The Pad Vigar there, asks one of the two comedians.. OTMEACHE DUSMAN KITLE ANI KONN? To be honest, to me, this ‘dotorn’ is new. May be different places had different teachings. Yes, Otmeache Dusman kitle ani konn? Ans. 3. If one of 3 is ‘Deuchar’ (Devil) What are the other two? please come back if you know the other two. Before I sign off, let me sing the traditional hymn that we used to sing at the end of our ‘dotorn’ class. It goes like this.. DEV AMKAM ZAI, DEVAK CHODD MANDTANV BHAVARTA SOTAM SOTMANDTANV BHAVART VHODD DAIZ, DENNEM KRISTACHEM SONVSARANT AMKAM DOVORLEM AMI KRISTANV JIV DIUNK TOYAR BHAVART AMKAM EK VHODD BHANDDAR DEV-PAP AMCHO MOGALL BAPUI ) DEV-PUT AMCHO VORTO PATXAI ) repeat last two lines (Brass bands at the church novena/feasts etc, sometime play the above tune) Check it here at 4.02 till 4.54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D293j8ovLmo also at 5.58 to 6.50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SfIlF6E1o4 joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
The CID in India,is like the FBI in the United States and certain police units in Great Britain, France, and other democracies. Its detectives work under cover, but whoever called them the Secret Police obviously not only mislabelled them out of ignorance but also managed to confuse you, Gabriel. That is what I have to say. Very best regards, and I hope some time soon we will meet again? I enjoyed my last meeting with you in Melbourne, not so long ago, when you were such a gracious host! --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:35 PM Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (20Jul09)
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[Goanet] Who or what is a caneco?
To me the most likely origin of the word canecos (also used by the Portuguese to refer to Goans in Africa) stems from the practice of using a jug of water for / after their personal habits. The issue I have: Is the word canecos a racial slur or is it a slang? Of course one could argue if it was used in a demeaning manner or as a general descriptive term. In cosmopolitan areas, be it Bombay or America, in the last century, every ethnic group was described in a slang terminology. In the USA we had WASP, pollack, WAP, papist, etc. In Bombay the slang was more on the typical food of the ethnic group. Regards, GL -- Selma Carvalho One of the interesting discussion on Goanet has been about the word 'canecos'. The Portuguese used this word, often as a racial slur, for Catholic Goans but opinions were divided as to its actual meaning. Although a consensus was not reached on its actual meaning, there is a strong possibility that it is a corruption of the word 'canarims', the old Portuguese word for people of the Konkan coast. The fact that in Africa, only Catholic Goans were called 'canecos' and not the Africans, leads credence to this theory.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Linking Road
Linking Road Not the famous linking road of Bandra but Goa ’s very own, except there are no fashion streets One of the oldest linking roads of Goa. (Connecting Panjim) Linking road- Starting point http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3715131614/sizes/l/ Linking Road- finishing point http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3708567944/sizes/l/ OK, to be more specific, these two are the starting and the ending points of the linking road http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/3331588136/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/3716438170/sizes/l/ Bonus: This one is Linking Road/bridge http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3708567360/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Dear Gabriel, I much regret that my reply to you went out unsigned, all because I mistakenly hit the tab key! Sorry about that. Regards, Victor --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:35 PM Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
[Goanet] In search of the perfect Fofos
In search of the perfect Fofos Melinda Pereira Kamat Fofos is a dish which has its roots in Portugal and was introduced in Goa during the Portuguese regime. In the olden days it was generally prepared by the upper class Catholics in Goa. Fofos is popular snack which is usually served at parties and marriages. This preparation differs from almondegas or albardado. Unlike almondegas, there is no use of raw onion or green chillies in a fofos. Fofos prepared from prawns is called fofos de camarao, while fofos de quejo is made with cheese, fofos de peixe with fish, and fofos de bacalhau with dry salted cod fish. Eating fish reduces the risk of strokes and heart diseases since fish oils regulate blood triglycerides. Consumption of fish also reduces the risk of giving birth to premature or underweight babies, since it is rich in omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids. Fish is rich in Vitamin D, proteins and calcium. Nevertheless, the quality of fish used is critical for getting the end results right. Fofos is traditionally deep fried in olive oil. Some families, however, use refined oil for this purpose. Goans were originally accustomed to using coconut oil, but the use of olive oil was introduced to the neo converts by the Portuguese. Olive oil is said to be effective in lowering the risk of heart diseases. It is rich in antioxidants such as polyphenols and helps to reduce bad cholesterol. It contains a monounsaturated fat called oleic acid which helps control obesity. The fofos de bacalhau prepared in Portugal differs from that prepared in Goa. In Portugal, large pieces of cod fish are wetted and dipped into a batter of maida, egg yolks, salt, beaten whites of eggs and then deep fried in olive oil. At times grated cheese is used in the batter. People in Goa also add potatoes besides a few spices. It is important that the original flavour of the main ingredient like fish, prawns, cheese or cod fish be maintained. A special variety of potatoes that are used to make chips are to be used. Potatoes should be old, free of sprouts and not newly harvested as they tend to be sticky and lumpy. They are are boiled till the skin and the central portion cracks and are then grated to form a paste. Paste of one medium-sized potato is mixed with an egg yolk, 1 tbsp of maida, 1tsp very finely chopped ginger, 1tsp finely chopped garlic, 1 ? wati of boiled fish, salt and pepper to taste. Two tbsp of stiffly beaten egg white is added to this mixture and it is then immediately deep fried. The desired shape of Fofos is not moulded by one's hands but with the help of 2 spoons. The fish used is generally mackerels and kingfish. No breadcrumbs or semolina is used as a coating while frying fofos. The secret of making good fofos lies in beating the egg whites till they resemble vanilla ice cream. The consistency of the batter should be like that used to prepare pakodas. For Subhash Bomkar, a cook at Hotel Mandovi in Panaji, making fofos is a work of art. It is fun watching him juggle the batter between two teaspoons till an oval shape is obtained. He then deep fries the oval shaped fofos in hot refined vegetable oil on a slow flame. This is done so that the internal portion gets well cooked. It is advisable to deep fry the fofos till it obtains a slightly deeper colour then golden brown. The final product should be light in weight, unlike almondegas which are heavier. When pressed, fofos is soft to touch and immediately flattens. Fofos de camarao is prepared in a similar manner with prawns. So also fofos de queijo is prepared similarly with grated cheese but with no salt. However, fofos de bacalhau is made in a slightly different manner. Dry salted bacalhau, which is meaty, is soaked in cold water overnight. The thick skin and bones are separated from the flesh and the latter is boiled with little water, separated into thin strands and made into a minced mass. This mass is then mixed with the above batter and deep fried. Certain families in Goa replace potato with sweet potato while making fofos de bacalhau. Since bacalhau is not easily available in Goa, some families have replaced it with dry salted mackerels, shark or Bombay ducks with the procedure remaining the same. Fofos is relished as a snack, when it is hot, but without using any accompaniments like sauce. It tastes best while sipping a glass of wine or caju feni. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Goa-In-search-of-the-perfect-Fofos/articleshow/4794057.cms
Re: [Goanet] Canecos
Dear Antonio, Canalha was a term that could be freely applied to anybody and everybody. It was not specifically aimed at Goans by the Portuguese, the descendentes, the mesticos, or people of other races! Regards, Victor --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com wrote: From: Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Canecos To: goanet goa...@goanet.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:07 AM No matter what the word actually may mean,it is possible that the Portuguese and their half-breeds the mestissos called native Goans , Canarins in Goa, Canecos in Mozambique ( Con Menezes post dated july 14 ). Another word which was freely used during the colonial days in Goa was CANALHAS. These desterrados (exiles) obviously hankered after white (or brancas ) c*nas and in their frustration appear to have showered native Goans with similarly sounding scornful words. Antonio
[Goanet] Proof Reading
Proofreading is a dying art, wouldn't you say? Man Kills Self Before Shooting Wife and Daughter This one I caught in the SGV Tribune the other day and called the Editorial Room and asked who wrote this. It took two or three readings before the editor realized that what he was reading was impossible!! ! They put in a correction the next day. I just couldn't help but sending this along. Too funny. Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says No, really? Ya think? - - - - - - - - Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers Now that's takingthings a bit far! - - - - - -- Panda Mating Fails;Veterinarian Takes Over What a guy! - - - - - -- Miners Refuse to Work after Death No-good-for- nothing' lazy so-and-so's! - - - - -- Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant See if that works any better than a fair trial! - - - - - - War Dims Hope for Peace I can see where it might have that effect! - - - - - --- If Strike Isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last Awhile Ya think?! - - - - - - - Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures Who would have thought! - - - - - --- Enfield( London ) Couple Slain;PoliceSuspect Homicide They may be on to something! - - - - - - -- Red Tape Holds Up New Bridges You mean there's something stronger than duct tape? - - - - - - Man Struck By Lightning:Faces Battery Charge He probably IS the battery charge! - - - --- New Study of Obesity Looks for LargerTest Group Weren't they fat enough?! - - - Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft That's what he gets for eating those beans! - - --- Kids Make Nutritious Snacks Do they taste like chicken? * * * * Local High SchoolDropoutsCut in Half Chainsaw Massacre all over again! * * * * *** Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors Boy, are they tall! * * * And the winner is Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead Did I read that right? * * * * *** Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. _ Missed any of the IPL matches ? Catch a recap of all the action on MSN Videos http://msnvideos.in/iplt20/msnvideoplayer.aspx
[Goanet] The Accidental Activist - Rain Song
The Accidental Activist - Rain Song By Venita Coelho Baby is finally old enough to understand weather. When the first rumblings of the monsoon began she would put up her head wonderingly and repeat after us 'Thunda. Thunda!' It was a wonder to her, those great roars that travelled across the sky and sent the dogs scampering under the bed. Then came the rain and she struggled to express her amazement in her limited vocabulary 'Big mum mum.. Mama very BIG mum mum.' To see the rain through the eyes of a two year old is to stand awe struck again. She would stick her hand out in it then jerk it back shrieking with excitement. Her next delight was her umbrella. A friend got her a whimsical one in orange that opened up to become a giraffe, horns, ears and all. With her umbrella she ventured out in the rain - but only the small rain, not the big one. The big one is to be stared at wide eyed, not to be ventured into. Puddles are another delight, since they are made to be splashed in no matter what mama says. I had tried to prepare her for the monsoons, telling her that there would be frogs all over the house, and at night she could hear them calling in the paddy fields. Every monsoon in Goa I have always had one additional duty - saving the frogs from the dogs and cats. They just can't resist playing with them. Biscuit the mongrel, will paw a frog then pretend to have forgotten it. Just as the poor fellow is trying to hop to freedom she will grab it again. The game goes on for hours, and it is only interrupted by me coming upon them, grabbing the exhausted frog and chucking it out into the garden. Baby asked 'Froggie? Where froggie gone?' It was a question I have been asking too. Every monsoon we have had platoons of frogs. Big ones and little ones. Dozens of tiny ones hopping in tandem across the floor. Big fat ones that usurp a favourite corner and refuse to move from there. One frog last year took up residence in a teacup, and no matter how many times he was ousted would always return. When he finally vanished at the end of the monsoon we were quite bereft. This year there hasn't been a single frog. In other years they have been so plentiful that I have literally had to take the broom and sweep scads of them off the porch so that we could walk around without danger of stepping on them. This year baby has asked 'froggie?' in vain. There just aren't any. Nor can you hear them any more. In front of my house are fields that get filled with monsoon water and become a mini lake. Frog song used to roll across them in great sheets. All night long you'd hear the racket. Croakers, singers, whistlers, beepers, peepers. all of them yelling for all they were worth. It used to be difficult to go to sleep. This year - nothing. I was away in Bombay when the first brief spell of rain fell. Mother tells me that the night was filled with frog song. Then the next morning the fields were full of people hunting frogs. And now the essential music of the rain is missing. The mature frogs come out with the first rains to mate. Killing them means no next generation of frogs. And no frogs means that every evening before Baby can go for a walk I have to coat her in mosquito repellent. With no frogs to feast on them the mosquito population has exploded and I am having to find ways and means to cope. The penalties are stringent. Rs 25,000 fine and three years imprisonment for killing endangered species. But these stay on paper without any means or will to implement them. 'Three years imprisonment? For killing frogs?! Chaah men!' I can hear my neighbours saying as they feast on monsoon chicken. But what they are killing is not just frogs. It is the delicate balance that sustains life in the fields, and eventually, us. I am wondering how to explain to my daughter what happened to them. How do you tell a child that somebody ate them up? That too humans, not other animals. Since she is vegetarian like me, it's going to be one heck of an explanation. Luckily she isn't old enough to ask as yet, or to understand. The loss of the frogs means one less melody in the Rain song. It means one more step towards unknitting the delicate web of life that we are part of. It means one less thing for Baby to wonder at. I have no idea how many more such small miracles will have vanished by the time she grows old enough to want to do something about it. (ENDS) === The above article appeared in the July 14, 2009 edition of the Herald, Goa
Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip
Dear Goa' netters, It would help if all en- mass email the concerned police dept and its head, Goa CM and the Home Ministry, collector etc and swamp them with emails that will jam the whole line forcing them to take cognizance action against this harassment to Rama. Some years back when some smart guy opened a restaurant and named it 'Hitler' in Kharghar- Navi Mumbai, the Jewish community from all over the world used this tactic and simply laid Mantralaya low forcing the C.M to immediately react in minutes - fall out was that they did not want a bad name and labeled as fascist. So therefore somebody get the details for their emails and put it up on the net and start acting rather than tossing mails around - let all the mails be directed to the Govt and the Governor. Best of luck to all, Ashley D'Silva -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Victor Rangel-Ribeiro Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:46 AM To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip The CID in India,is like the FBI in the United States and certain police units in Great Britain, France, and other democracies. Its detectives work under cover, but whoever called them the Secret Police obviously not only mislabelled them out of ignorance but also managed to confuse you, Gabriel. That is what I have to say. Very best regards, and I hope some time soon we will meet again? I enjoyed my last meeting with you in Melbourne, not so long ago, when you were such a gracious host! --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:35 PM Secret Police? I thought these had gone out with the so-called liberation. Get Karmali and all the freedom fighters involved. No use just getting the pensions and benefits, and celebrating 18 June and 19 Dec - they need to see that the freedom they fought for, is also maintained. Victor RR, what do you say to this? - Original Message From: sebastian Rodrigues sebydesio...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 18 July, 2009 9:33:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa's Secret Police Harass Rama Velip Over the past two weeks Rama Velip of Colamb village in Sanguem Taluka is being harassed by Goa's Secret Police - CID (Criminal Intelligence Department). Secret police has been visiting the house of Rama Velip and seeks to know about future plans of anti-mining movement. Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
[Goanet] Room for Rumour – Monday-muse (20 Ju ly’09)
MONDAY MUSE (20 July 2009) ROOM FOR RUMOUR “Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.”- G. B. Shaw Wednesday, July 22, 2009 will see the occurrence of the longest total solar eclipse of this century, which will not be surpassed in duration until June 13, 2132. A total solar eclipse is a spectacular natural phenomenon and many enthusiasts have already embarked on travel to locations where it is best visible. An airline has even discovered business opportunity by announcing a flight to view the eclipse from the sky. While the hype of the historical event has been in the public domain for a long time, a latest rumour has found greater attention. An e-mail doing the rounds warns coastal Asia of a tsunami triggered by the eclipse. Although mainstream scientists and media have already rejected this hypothesis, the rumour is swiftly gaining attention worldwide as an electronic chain letter. Doomsday prophets are going berserk with their unscientific predictions. A day of joy will now be a day of worry for the gullible. Our minds have room for rumour at the cost of critical thinking. While we are slow to apply our minds, we show urgency in giving credibility to a rumour. We easily acquire the irresponsible habit to forward information without verifying its authenticity. It is ironical that people who receive e-rumours do not use the same internet to verify its authenticity. Albert Einstein said it so well: “Information is not knowledge”. We must learn to sift facts from non-facts in the information we receive. We must be careful to ensure that non-factual rumours do not eclipse the real truth. To be better at escaping the stranglehold of rumours, we must develop the spirit of inquiry and investigation. No room for rumour, but lots for critical inquiring... That’s the way to BE BETTER at effective thinking! - Pravin Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] Goan Homestay
With the obvious impact of the global recession on Goa's tourism it makes good sense for the government to start a website to promote a Goan Homestay as Goans are an important part of the tourism attraction in this part of the world. Even if no more than one room is converted into a guest room and a couple is charged Rs 300-500 a day, it means an additional income of one job per month for the family. This is more than loose change and can become an important source of employment for the family. Financial support to build modern toilets is also necessary, as was the case when Dr Luis Barbosa was the tourism minister. At the time the project did not fare well as the hippies wanted to hang out on the beach. Today the tourism scenario is vastly different so it can hardly fail. We have, in addition, the Internet. All that is needed is government support.
