Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Tanveer Singh wrote: > On 3/9/06, Tushar Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why >> shouldnot 32 bit stuff run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any >> pointers or a correct google query it will be great :) >> Regards >> Tushar >> > > > Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems. hi Tushar, 32bit apps run fine under the > 32bit stuff that the x86_64 specifications stipulate ( its not 64bit, but thats another conversation for another day on another thread ). one of the reasons a lot of people say it wont run is because either their package management system is incapable of handling dual / multilib and needs funky chrooting tricks or they run the 'build eveyrthing yourself' sort of distro's and lack the ability to cleanly build i386/x86_64 pacakges. look at your options, choose a distro that has the functionality you need - and things work fine ( as I type this running thunderbird/i386 on a x86_64 laptop ). -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Actually there are certain applications/modules that do not run if they detect the environment to be 64 bit. I have encountered, this problem with the tun drivers on 64 bit (http://vtun.sourceforge.net/) .. I was forced to move to a 32 bit architecture to run the same. You'd better check out your requirements, day to day 32 bit applications work just fine though. Anand On 3/9/06, Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
hi, What would be the correct ans to this: "Is it easier for a fat man to wear a thin man's trousers or vice-versa"? Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/9/06, Tushar Shah wrote: > > Hi, > This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why > shouldnot 32 bit stuff run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any > pointers or a correct google query it will be great :) > Regards > Tushar > Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ catch ya later (Ive gotta UnWire Life!!!) shiv - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
On 3/9/06, Tushar Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why > shouldnot 32 bit stuff run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any > pointers or a correct google query it will be great :) > Regards > Tushar > Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Hi, This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why shouldnot 32 bit stuff run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any pointers or a correct google query it will be great :) Regards Tushar -- Somedays you're the dog, and some day's you're the hydrant ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
On 08/03/06, Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Sudev Barar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in > > q64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running > > flash on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has > > not got around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash > > project, but I will admit it does not work very well...yet! > > libflash-mozplugin and libflash-swfplugin are available on Debian Sid, > and I run the AMD 64bit version. You can try it. > Tried this. With libflash-swfpulgin or mozplugin if a web site containing flash is opened in firefox the browser dies! Any pointers in this direction? I am using Ubuntu 5.10 on AMD 64 machine. Everythng else is up and running superbly but flash sites. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Gaurav wrote: > >> i didnt think it would be worth spamming this list with a gazzilion pkg >> names that only exist in 32bit userspace. >> >> here is one to get you started : vmware >> >> - K >> > or get best of the both world ...use xen with 64 bit > host Os and 32 bit OS images > considering Xen is much broken still on x86_64, i'd stay away from that option for the time being. The guys seem to be doing a lot of work to get it working in a usable manner. Lets see how things pan out. Xen is cool :) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
> i didnt think it would be worth spamming this list with a gazzilion pkg > names that only exist in 32bit userspace. > > here is one to get you started : vmware > > - K > or get best of the both world ...use xen with 64 bit host Os and 32 bit OS images DISCLAIMER: -- This e-mail contains confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error)please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure, use or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. --- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Sudev Barar wrote: > On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u. >> softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed >> Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of >> softwares. >> i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently. > > I suggest you get better friends... ;-) > Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in > 64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash > on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got > around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I > will admit it does not work very well...yet! > i didnt think it would be worth spamming this list with a gazzilion pkg names that only exist in 32bit userspace. here is one to get you started : vmware - K -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Vaibhav Singh wrote: > well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u. > softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed > Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of > softwares. > i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently. > if you use a smart enough system, there is no problem with 32bit and 64bit on the same system - eg. CentOS ( plug! ) give bedian and ubuntoo a few more years, they might have these issues resolved in a usable manner. - K -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Nitin Chandra wrote: > Hello Everyone > > could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux > OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use; > CDs/DVD any, will be preferable. > > My computer config is : > > AMD Sempron 2400+ (it sayes 64bit) > 512 MB RAM > K8V-MX motherboard > 120GB PATA HDD > > and if any one has that distribution, can you make a > copy available to me in West Delhi. > > reply to me off list in this regard Please. CentOS ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
"Sudev Barar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in > q64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running > flash on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has > not got around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash > project, but I will admit it does not work very well...yet! libflash-mozplugin and libflash-swfplugin are available on Debian Sid, and I run the AMD 64bit version. You can try it. You need a chroot environment to run OpenOfffice.org, however. The easy way out for me was to install Koffice, which is a good substitute for OO.o. (It is good enough for an advanced power user of Word processing like me, so why would koffice not work for err.. lesser mortals out there?) -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://paivakil.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
I have CentOS 4.2 (64 bit). if you need this then please let me know. PS: you have to pickup the CD's from Qutub institutional Area. --Narender On 3/8/06, Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/8/06, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u. > > > softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed > > > Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of > > > softwares. > > > i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently. > > > > I suggest you get better friends... ;-) > > Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in > > 64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash > > on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got > > around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I > > will admit it does not work very well...yet! > > > Flash is not that much of a problem. I run firefox in 32bit mode so I can > use all plugins. Rest everything runs 64bit. But then I use a more 64bit > friendly distro(gentoo). Since precompiled 64bit applications are rare, > gentoo flow works fine. > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
On 3/8/06, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u. > > softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed > > Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of > > softwares. > > i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently. > > I suggest you get better friends... ;-) > Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in > 64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash > on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got > around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I > will admit it does not work very well...yet! > Flash is not that much of a problem. I run firefox in 32bit mode so I can use all plugins. Rest everything runs 64bit. But then I use a more 64bit friendly distro(gentoo). Since precompiled 64bit applications are rare, gentoo flow works fine. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u. > softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed > Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of > softwares. > i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently. I suggest you get better friends... ;-) Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in 64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I will admit it does not work very well...yet! -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
Thanks guys. Gora i do keep going to Dwarka, to Sector 4 & market of sector 12. So if u can give me your mobile / ph no. i can call you and get a 1st hand feedback from you :) , i might be there tomorrow. Thanks n Reg Nitin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u. softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of softwares. i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently. bye ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
--- Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/03/06, Nitin Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux > > OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use; > > CDs/DVD any, will be preferable. [...] > Replying online. Ubuntu 64 bit works like charm. ILUG-D has copies, > you will have to move and attend the next meeting to get one. [...] Ubuntu is not RPM-based, but is indeed a good choice. Sarai has copies, and I can pick one up for Nitin, if he can collect it from Dwarka. If RPM-based is required, I would suggest OpenSuSE, but do not have 64-bit CDs. Regards, Gora __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
--- Nitin Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux > OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use; > CDs/DVD any, will be preferable. Why the RPM-based stipulation? Ubuntu 64-bit is available, and is a winner on the desktop. [...] > and if any one has that distribution, can you make a > copy available to me in West Delhi. Sarai has copies, and I can pick one up if you let me know soon, and can pick it up in Dwarka. > reply to me off list in this regard Please. Sorry. Post here, read here. Regards, Gora Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket http://in.sports.yahoo.com/cricket/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS
On 07/03/06, Nitin Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux > OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use; > CDs/DVD any, will be preferable. > > My computer config is : > > AMD Sempron 2400+ (it sayes 64bit) > 512 MB RAM > K8V-MX motherboard > 120GB PATA HDD > Replying online. Ubuntu 64 bit works like charm. ILUG-D has copies, you will have to move and attend the next meeting to get one. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/