Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:11:07PM +0200, Yuval Hager wrote: > I find the lyx variant to be most intuitive. As I don't have time to look for > the documentation when I need to add diacritics, it makes much sense for פתח > to be on פ, for קמץ to be on ק, for חיריק to be on ח, and so on. If I don't > remember the exact position of something, I do not have to err much before I > find the right one. BTW, Sivan Toledo made something similar for Windows, in case you know someone who is interested: http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~stoledo/Tools/Keyboards/ -- Didi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
On Thursday 05 March 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/3/5 Yuval Hager : > > On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote: > >> Hi Yonatan, > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > >> > What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)? > >> > >> How about SI1452? > >> > >> http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm > > > > Is there something similar for the Lyx variant? > > If by "something similar" youmean a page that describes the character > placements, try this: > http://www.echoofeden.com/digest/slaveofone/2007/02/14/writing-hebrew-in-op >enoffice-under-linux/ > Yes, thanks. It is strange that the only page that clearly shows this visually is in English :) I find the lyx variant to be most intuitive. As I don't have time to look for the documentation when I need to add diacritics, it makes much sense for פתח to be on פ, for קמץ to be on ק, for חיריק to be on ח, and so on. If I don't remember the exact position of something, I do not have to err much before I find the right one. Compare that to the shift-number method... > It is missing some characters, though, notably RLM and LRM. Yup, these always confuse me. It would be great if someone writes up a simple page, in Hebrew, that explains that and shows it visually (both RLM/LRM and diacritics). It will also help non-technical people who use Linux desktops (for me this means - my wife, my kids, and my sister. I guess every second subscriber on this list has a couple of those installations too). --yuval signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
2009/3/5 Yuval Hager : > On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote: >> Hi Yonatan, >> >> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: >> > What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)? >> >> How about SI1452? >> >> http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm >> > > Is there something similar for the Lyx variant? > If by "something similar" youmean a page that describes the character placements, try this: http://www.echoofeden.com/digest/slaveofone/2007/02/14/writing-hebrew-in-openoffice-under-linux/ It is missing some characters, though, notably RLM and LRM. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>> Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the >> layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM >> and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard >> layouts: >> Default >> Basic >> Lyx >> Phonetic >> Biblical > > Hi Dotan, > Where do you see these keyboard layouts? What distro are you using? > Kubuntu 8.04, KDE 3.5.10. I see those layouts in Kcontrol. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
> After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the > Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that > capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language > shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does > anyone know anyone who is actually doing this? > That does look ridiculous. On Windows the solution is to have the Nikud on the Hebrew layout, Shift-lock enabled, shift- on each key. Non-shift-locked shift on each key gives the symbols expected. > That's why I suggested the alternative at > > http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html > Looks, nice, but where are the RLM and LRM characters? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Btw, the drawing of the keyboard does not show the following additional
mappings that I use (don't remember if they are part of the original
.xkbmap):
Hebrew shift Z: RLM
Hebrew shift X: LRM
(Mnemonic: RLM is in the left side as the writing direction is to the right.
LRM is on the right side as the writing direction is to the right.)
With that I can write:
xxx שלום! xxx
אאא hello! אאא
C++ שפת מחשב
Cheers,
Dov
2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham
> Hi Dov,
> I'd like to see a vote on this, or maybe just a discussion.
> Maybe there is a possibility of adopting this as a second standard.
> Anyone else have opinions about this?
>
> - yba
>
>
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:37 +0200
>> From: Dov Grobgeld
>> To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
>> Cc: Baruch Siach , linux-il.
>>
>> Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>
>> After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace
>> the
>> Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that
>> capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
>> shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
>> anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?
>>
>> That's why I suggested the alternative at
>>
>> http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html<http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/%7Edov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html>
>>
>> The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key
>> before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dov
>>
>> 2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham
>>
>>
>>> Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.
>>>
>>> - yba
>>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200
>>>
>>>> From: Baruch Siach
>>>> To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
>>>> Cc: Dotan Cohen , linux-il. <
>>>> linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>>>
>>>> Hi Yonatan,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> How about SI1452?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
>>>>
>>>> baruch
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Dotan Cohen
>>>>>> To: linux-il.
>>>>>> Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
>>>>>> layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
>>>>>> and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
>>>>>> in another popular OS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
>>>>>> some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
>>>>>> RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
>>>>>> as well. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
On Thursday 05 March 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
> Hi Yonatan,
>
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
> > What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
>
> How about SI1452?
>
> http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
>
Is there something similar for the Lyx variant?
--y
> baruch
>
> > On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
> >> From: Dotan Cohen
> >> To: linux-il.
> >> Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
> >>
> >> Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
> >> layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
> >> and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
> >> in another popular OS?
> >>
> >> Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
> >> some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
> >> RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
> >> as well. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:24:40 +0200
From: Dotan Cohen
To: Baruch Siach
Cc: Jonathan Ben Avraham , linux-il.
Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
How about SI1452?
http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the
layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM
and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard
layouts:
Default
Basic
Lyx
Phonetic
Biblical
Hi Dotan,
Where do you see these keyboard layouts? What distro are you using?
- yba
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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Hi Dov,
I'd like to see a vote on this, or maybe just a discussion.
Maybe there is a possibility of adopting this as a second standard.
Anyone else have opinions about this?
- yba
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:37 +0200
From: Dov Grobgeld
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Cc: Baruch Siach , linux-il.
Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the
Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that
capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?
That's why I suggested the alternative at
http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html
The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key
before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.
Regards,
Dov
2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham
Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.
- yba
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200
From: Baruch Siach
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Cc: Dotan Cohen , linux-il.
Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Hi Yonatan,
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
How about SI1452?
http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
baruch
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
From: Dotan Cohen
To: linux-il.
Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?
Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.
Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
> How about SI1452? > > http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm Thanks, Baruch, but those alt- characters don't match _any_ of the layouts on my system! It seems to be closest to Biblical, but the RLM and LRM characters do not work. I have these available keyboard layouts: Default Basic Lyx Phonetic Biblical -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace the
Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that
capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?
That's why I suggested the alternative at
http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html
The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key
before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.
Regards,
Dov
2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham
>
> Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.
>
> - yba
>
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200
>> From: Baruch Siach
>> To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
>> Cc: Dotan Cohen , linux-il. > >
>> Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>
>> Hi Yonatan,
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
>>
>>> What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
>>>
>>
>> How about SI1452?
>>
>> http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
>>
>> baruch
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
>>>> From: Dotan Cohen
>>>> To: linux-il.
>>>> Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>>>
>>>> Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
>>>> layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
>>>> and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
>>>> in another popular OS?
>>>>
>>>> Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
>>>> some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
>>>> RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
>>>> as well. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.
- yba
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200
From: Baruch Siach
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham
Cc: Dotan Cohen , linux-il.
Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Hi Yonatan,
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
How about SI1452?
http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
baruch
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
From: Dotan Cohen
To: linux-il.
Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?
Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.
Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Hi Yonatan,
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
> What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
How about SI1452?
http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
baruch
> On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
>> From: Dotan Cohen
>> To: linux-il.
>> Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>
>> Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
>> layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
>> and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
>> in another popular OS?
>>
>> Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
>> some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
>> RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
>> as well. Thanks.
>>
>> Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
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Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
- yba
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
From: Dotan Cohen
To: linux-il.
Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?
Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.
Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
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RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
in another popular OS?
Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
as well. Thanks.
Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
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