Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-05 Thread Walt Zarnoch
DOH! Forgot stainless...

Walt

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:38 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
 Gotta love non-magnetic stainless screws there!

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 On Feb 3, 2011, at 17:27, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Was gonna say something but this ain't the banned part of the world.

 Hendrik
 who is in trouble with the council, so a bit more trouble ain't a problem

 WILTON wrote:
 Yes, I've used the masking tape trick many times, but, like I said, No 
 room to get my fingers down in there for securing the screw on the OUT 
 that worries me.

 Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-04 Thread John Reames
Gotta love non-magnetic stainless screws there!

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On Feb 3, 2011, at 17:27, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Was gonna say something but this ain't the banned part of the world.
 
 Hendrik
 who is in trouble with the council, so a bit more trouble ain't a problem
 
 WILTON wrote:
 Yes, I've used the masking tape trick many times, but, like I said, No room 
 to get my fingers down in there for securing the screw on the OUT that 
 worries me.
 
 Wilton
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-04 Thread Rolf
Harbor freight has em. You can also get the pick up thingy that has 3 of 
those claws on it there to. I just magnetize all of my screw drivers. 
Pen magnet FTW.


-Rolf

On 02/02/2011 06:34 PM, WILTON wrote:

Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 inches, or 
so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing a screw 
into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.  Spring on 
opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head of the screw, 
etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending valve kit 
replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to pack paper 
towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the abyss.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-03 Thread Gerry Archer



On Behalf Of WILTON
Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 
inches,
or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing 
a

screw into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.
Spring on opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head 
of

the screw, etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending
valve kit replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan 
to
pack paper towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the 
abyss.

Wilton

-
Been using those for years.  Got the last ones at Ace Hardware.  Have never
seen them at Autozone, Advance, Sears, or other stores.  The gripper part is
flimsy and the springs will fall out from yanking them off screw head, but 
the
springs can be put back in place and the retainer squeezed back together 
good

as new.
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-03 Thread John Reames
Kd makes something (handy for ignition points and condenser screws down in 
distributors) called a screw starter; the straight blade is KD 2282, and the 
crosshead is KD 2283. 

They are a different mechanism, but work VERY well...

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On Feb 2, 2011, at 18:34, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 inches, 
 or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing a 
 screw into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.  Spring 
 on opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head of the 
 screw, etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending valve kit 
 replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to pack paper 
 towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the abyss.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-03 Thread Mitch Haley

John Reames wrote:
Kd makes something (handy for ignition points and condenser screws down in distributors) called a screw starter; the straight blade is KD 2282, and the crosshead is KD 2283. 


They are a different mechanism, but work VERY well...


My dad has one, older than me, with two blades and a sliding collar on the 
shaft. The blades are tapered at the tips, so that when you squeeze them 
together they get thicker. Never knew who made it, but it grabbed a screw firmly 
from inside the slot.


A little searching, and I found something very similar from Klein.
http://www.amazon.com/Klein-SK234-3-Piece-Screw-Holding-Screwdriver/dp/B0002RIA3K

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-03 Thread Hendrik Fay

Was gonna say something but this ain't the banned part of the world.

Hendrik
who is in trouble with the council, so a bit more trouble ain't a problem

WILTON wrote:
Yes, I've used the masking tape trick many times, but, like I said, 
No room to get my fingers down in there for securing the screw on 
the OUT that worries me.


Wilton





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[MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread WILTON
Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 inches, or 
so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing a screw 
into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.  Spring on 
opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head of the screw, 
etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending valve kit 
replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to pack paper 
towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the abyss.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
My dad had one of those too, it was great.  My dumbass thieving cousin 
stole all his tools though, so it is gone wherever, forever.


In the absence of the tool, a bit of masking tape wrapped around the 
screw head and the screwdriver shaft will work.


--R

On 2/2/2011 6:34 PM, WILTON wrote:

Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 inches, or 
so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing a screw 
into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.  Spring on 
opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head of the screw, 
etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending valve kit 
replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to pack paper 
towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the abyss.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I have a couple of tools known as screw starters.  One is for slot-headed
and one for Phillips.  They are shaped like short magnetic pickup tools,
maybe 1/4 dia. by about 6 long, shafts made of knurled aluminum.  IIRC I
got them from Sears.  Once you get the threads started, you switch to a real
screwdriver.  Magnetic tips often work ok too.  They are really necessary
when needed!

Greg

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On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:35 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 inches,
or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing a
screw into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.
Spring on opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head of
the screw, etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending
valve kit replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to
pack paper towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the abyss.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:
Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 inches, or so) with a screw gripper spring 


There's on in this set. Seems like I paid $6.99 or so for the same set several 
years ago:

http://www.homier.com/hdc-22-piece-screwdriver-nutdriver-tool-set.html

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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread Dieselhead
I have a small one of those screwdrivers that my dad bought years ago 
when we were working on the boat.  Since I was a kid, my job was to 
remove and replace the brass or SS screws all over the boat.  Later, 
I acquired that screwdriver for my toolbox.  It is one of my 
favorites, and in a pinch, it will remove Phillips too.


I don't think flaps has them, but an electric wholesaler might.  I'd 
use my maggot.  It is a telescoping magnet about 1/2 dia that is 
very powerful.  I can use it to spin in a screw to get it started. 
works best with flathead screws.  FLAPS has the maggots.  mine came 
from oreilley, so autozone probably has them too.


You can also use some heavy grease or masking tape to stick the screw 
to the screwdriver.  For removal, i sometimes hold the maggot close 
to the screw while I am spinning it out.  That has prevented some 
losses.



Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 
inches, or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help 
keep from losing a screw into the abyss like that beneath the 
monovalve on my 91 350SDL.  Spring on opposing sides of the shaft 
had tips that would fit under head of the screw, etc.  'Spose Auto 
Zone may have such to help with my pending valve kit replacement? 
No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to pack paper towels 
around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the abyss.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread WILTON
Yes, I've used the masking tape trick many times, but, like I said, No room 
to get my fingers down in there for securing the screw on the OUT that 
worries me.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver


My dad had one of those too, it was great.  My dumbass thieving cousin 
stole all his tools though, so it is gone wherever, forever.


In the absence of the tool, a bit of masking tape wrapped around the screw 
head and the screwdriver shaft will work.


--R

On 2/2/2011 6:34 PM, WILTON wrote:
Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 
inches, or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep 
from losing a screw into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 
91 350SDL.  Spring on opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit 
under head of the screw, etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help 
with my pending valve kit replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in 
there.  'Plan to pack paper towels around the valve, too, in order to put 
a top on the abyss.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread WILTON

Yep, I have a magnetic tip here somewhere.  'Need to find it.

Wilton

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From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver



I have a couple of tools known as screw starters.  One is for slot-headed
and one for Phillips.  They are shaped like short magnetic pickup tools,
maybe 1/4 dia. by about 6 long, shafts made of knurled aluminum.  IIRC I
got them from Sears.  Once you get the threads started, you switch to a 
real

screwdriver.  Magnetic tips often work ok too.  They are really necessary
when needed!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:35 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 
inches,
or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing 
a

screw into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.
Spring on opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head 
of

the screw, etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending
valve kit replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to
pack paper towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the 
abyss.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Sears carries those. I bought one several months ago.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:43 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Yes, I've used the masking tape trick many times, but, like I said, No room to 
get my fingers down in there for securing the screw on the OUT that worries me.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver


My dad had one of those too, it was great.  My dumbass thieving cousin stole 
all his tools though, so it is gone wherever, forever.

In the absence of the tool, a bit of masking tape wrapped around the screw head 
and the screwdriver shaft will work.

--R

On 2/2/2011 6:34 PM, WILTON wrote:
Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 inches, or 
so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing a screw 
into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.  Spring on 
opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head of the screw, 
etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending valve kit 
replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan to pack paper 
towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the abyss.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread WILTON
Just turned around, reached inside a drawer in the cabinet behind me and 
immediately found my magnetic screwdriver tip of an appropriate size for the 
screws in question.  'Didn't even leave my seat.  'Task is looking better 
already.  ;)


Wilton

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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver



Yep, I have a magnetic tip here somewhere.  'Need to find it.

Wilton

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From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver


I have a couple of tools known as screw starters.  One is for 
slot-headed

and one for Phillips.  They are shaped like short magnetic pickup tools,
maybe 1/4 dia. by about 6 long, shafts made of knurled aluminum.  IIRC 
I
got them from Sears.  Once you get the threads started, you switch to a 
real

screwdriver.  Magnetic tips often work ok too.  They are really necessary
when needed!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]

On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:35 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6 
inches,
or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from losing 
a

screw into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.
Spring on opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head 
of

the screw, etc.  'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending
valve kit replacement?  No room to get my fingers down in there.  'Plan 
to
pack paper towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the 
abyss.


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

2011-02-02 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Another trick is to take a regular screwdriver, and a harddrive magnet,
stick magnet on the driver shaft, and you're good.

Done that more times than I can count.

Walt
On Feb 2, 2011 8:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Just turned around, reached inside a drawer in the cabinet behind me and
 immediately found my magnetic screwdriver tip of an appropriate size for
the
 screws in question. 'Didn't even leave my seat. 'Task is looking better
 already. ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver


 Yep, I have a magnetic tip here somewhere. 'Need to find it.

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver


I have a couple of tools known as screw starters. One is for
slot-headed
 and one for Phillips. They are shaped like short magnetic pickup tools,
 maybe 1/4 dia. by about 6 long, shafts made of knurled aluminum. IIRC
 I
 got them from Sears. Once you get the threads started, you switch to a
 real
 screwdriver. Magnetic tips often work ok too. They are really necessary
 when needed!

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
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 On Behalf Of WILTON
 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:35 PM
 To: mercedes list
 Subject: [MBZ] Gripper screwdriver

 Many years ago (maybe 50), I had a common screwdriver (shaft about 6
 inches,
 or so) with a screw gripper spring on it that could help keep from
losing
 a
 screw into the abyss like that beneath the monovalve on my 91 350SDL.
 Spring on opposing sides of the shaft had tips that would fit under head

 of
 the screw, etc. 'Spose Auto Zone may have such to help with my pending
 valve kit replacement? No room to get my fingers down in there. 'Plan
 to
 pack paper towels around the valve, too, in order to put a top on the
 abyss.

 Wilton
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