Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread rathodrajesh...@gmail.com
 hi purusottam 
u are right.
But dear don't write such frustrating things. 
Because some our friends like salimbhai are trying best to access the enroyed 
i personally think that when we are unable to change cenario 
we should accept the reality and be optimistic.
Our such negative statement will frustrate those who are trying to access 
sorry if i have hurt u.  
-Original message-
From: Purushottam Lodhaniya
Sent:  26/09/2013, 12:21  am
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen 
phones.-discuss


many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
always found the discussion of android confusing.
I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
with that much confidence. This is my fear.
Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
think thats why we are crying for nokia.
I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
mobile using are over in our case.


On 9/25/13, sanjay ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
 windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction of
 iPhone users who say their phones are much better than symbian phones both
 from the perspectives of accessibility and wide range of accessible
 applications apple has given to those blind users.
  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for symbian
 phones.


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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread Purushottam Lodhaniya
i am not negative person sir,
i am ready to try android touch screen phone.
many friends have recommended xolo q700, and i am exploring other options too.

On 9/26/13, rathodrajesh...@gmail.com rathodrajesh...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi purusottam
 u are right.
 But dear don't write such frustrating things.
 Because some our friends like salimbhai are trying best to access the
 enroyed
 i personally think that when we are unable to change cenario
 we should accept the reality and be optimistic.
 Our such negative statement will frustrate those who are trying to access
 sorry if i have hurt u.
 -Original message-
 From: Purushottam Lodhaniya
 Sent:  26/09/2013, 12:21  am
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
   and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen
 phones.-discuss


 many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
 part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
 Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
 true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
 accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
 always found the discussion of android confusing.
 I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
 as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
 with that much confidence. This is my fear.
 Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
 think thats why we are crying for nokia.
 I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
 mobile using are over in our case.


 On 9/25/13, sanjay ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
 windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction of
 iPhone users who say their phones are much better than symbian phones
 both
 from the perspectives of accessibility and wide range of accessible
 applications apple has given to those blind users.
  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for symbian
 phones.


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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread Purushottam Lodhaniya
dear salam bhai and all, please suggest few models under 10k. as i
don't trust xolo brand. correct me if i am wrong.

On 9/26/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 i am not negative person sir,
 i am ready to try android touch screen phone.
 many friends have recommended xolo q700, and i am exploring other options
 too.

 On 9/26/13, rathodrajesh...@gmail.com rathodrajesh...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi purusottam
 u are right.
 But dear don't write such frustrating things.
 Because some our friends like salimbhai are trying best to access the
 enroyed
 i personally think that when we are unable to change cenario
 we should accept the reality and be optimistic.
 Our such negative statement will frustrate those who are trying to access
 sorry if i have hurt u.
 -Original message-
 From: Purushottam Lodhaniya
 Sent:  26/09/2013, 12:21  am
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
  and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch
 screen
 phones.-discuss


 many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
 part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
 Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
 true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
 accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
 always found the discussion of android confusing.
 I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
 as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
 with that much confidence. This is my fear.
 Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
 think thats why we are crying for nokia.
 I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
 mobile using are over in our case.


 On 9/25/13, sanjay ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
 windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction
 of
 iPhone users who say their phones are much better than symbian phones
 both
 from the perspectives of accessibility and wide range of accessible
 applications apple has given to those blind users.
  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for symbian
 phones.


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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread jignesh thakur
The most frustrating experience with android was caller id.
In simbian we use key 2 for announcing caller’s name, but I couldn’t
find such option or application in android.
Sometime caller id works along with ring tone, and sometime it doesn’t.


On 9/26/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear salam bhai and all, please suggest few models under 10k. as i
 don't trust xolo brand. correct me if i am wrong.

 On 9/26/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 i am not negative person sir,
 i am ready to try android touch screen phone.
 many friends have recommended xolo q700, and i am exploring other options
 too.

 On 9/26/13, rathodrajesh...@gmail.com rathodrajesh...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi purusottam
 u are right.
 But dear don't write such frustrating things.
 Because some our friends like salimbhai are trying best to access the
 enroyed
 i personally think that when we are unable to change cenario
 we should accept the reality and be optimistic.
 Our such negative statement will frustrate those who are trying to
 access
 sorry if i have hurt u.
 -Original message-
 From: Purushottam Lodhaniya
 Sent:  26/09/2013, 12:21  am
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
 and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch
 screen
 phones.-discuss


 many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
 part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
 Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
 true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
 accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
 always found the discussion of android confusing.
 I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
 as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
 with that much confidence. This is my fear.
 Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
 think thats why we are crying for nokia.
 I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
 mobile using are over in our case.


 On 9/25/13, sanjay ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
 windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction
 of
 iPhone users who say their phones are much better than symbian phones
 both
 from the perspectives of accessibility and wide range of accessible
 applications apple has given to those blind users.
  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for symbian
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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread jignesh thakur
even in built music player in android jelly bean was not quite accessible.
i tried the most trusted brand samsung galaxy grand. but it gave me
only frustration.

On 9/26/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 The most frustrating experience with android was caller id.
 In simbian we use key 2 for announcing caller’s name, but I couldn’t
 find such option or application in android.
 Sometime caller id works along with ring tone, and sometime it doesn’t.


 On 9/26/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear salam bhai and all, please suggest few models under 10k. as i
 don't trust xolo brand. correct me if i am wrong.

 On 9/26/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 i am not negative person sir,
 i am ready to try android touch screen phone.
 many friends have recommended xolo q700, and i am exploring other
 options
 too.

 On 9/26/13, rathodrajesh...@gmail.com rathodrajesh...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi purusottam
 u are right.
 But dear don't write such frustrating things.
 Because some our friends like salimbhai are trying best to access the
 enroyed
 i personally think that when we are unable to change cenario
 we should accept the reality and be optimistic.
 Our such negative statement will frustrate those who are trying to
 access
 sorry if i have hurt u.
 -Original message-
 From: Purushottam Lodhaniya
 Sent:  26/09/2013, 12:21  am
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch
 screen
 phones.-discuss


 many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
 part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
 Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
 true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
 accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
 always found the discussion of android confusing.
 I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
 as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
 with that much confidence. This is my fear.
 Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
 think thats why we are crying for nokia.
 I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
 mobile using are over in our case.


 On 9/25/13, sanjay ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
 windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction
 of
 iPhone users who say their phones are much better than symbian phones
 both
 from the perspectives of accessibility and wide range of accessible
 applications apple has given to those blind users.
  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for
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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread Salim qureshi
for music player, you can use rocklock or gon mad player wich is accessible.

On 9/26/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 even in built music player in android jelly bean was not quite accessible.
 i tried the most trusted brand samsung galaxy grand. but it gave me
 only frustration.

 On 9/26/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 The most frustrating experience with android was caller id.
 In simbian we use key 2 for announcing caller’s name, but I couldn’t
 find such option or application in android.
 Sometime caller id works along with ring tone, and sometime it doesn’t.


 On 9/26/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear salam bhai and all, please suggest few models under 10k. as i
 don't trust xolo brand. correct me if i am wrong.

 On 9/26/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 i am not negative person sir,
 i am ready to try android touch screen phone.
 many friends have recommended xolo q700, and i am exploring other
 options
 too.

 On 9/26/13, rathodrajesh...@gmail.com rathodrajesh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  hi purusottam
 u are right.
 But dear don't write such frustrating things.
 Because some our friends like salimbhai are trying best to access the
 enroyed
 i personally think that when we are unable to change cenario
 we should accept the reality and be optimistic.
 Our such negative statement will frustrate those who are trying to
 access
 sorry if i have hurt u.
 -Original message-
 From: Purushottam Lodhaniya
 Sent:  26/09/2013, 12:21  am
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
   and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch
 screen
 phones.-discuss


 many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
 part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
 Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
 true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
 accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
 always found the discussion of android confusing.
 I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
 as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
 with that much confidence. This is my fear.
 Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
 think thats why we are crying for nokia.
 I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
 mobile using are over in our case.


 On 9/25/13, sanjay ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in
 early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles
 about
 windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the
 reaction
 of
 iPhone users who say their phones are much better than symbian phones
 both
 from the perspectives of accessibility and wide range of accessible
 applications apple has given to those blind users.
  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for
 symbian
 phones.


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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread Salim qureshi
just put your finger on to the center of screen and it will speek
caller id again!so easy.

On 9/26/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 The most frustrating experience with android was caller id.
 In simbian we use key 2 for announcing caller’s name, but I couldn’t
 find such option or application in android.
 Sometime caller id works along with ring tone, and sometime it doesn’t.


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 dear salam bhai and all, please suggest few models under 10k. as i
 don't trust xolo brand. correct me if i am wrong.

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 i am not negative person sir,
 i am ready to try android touch screen phone.
 many friends have recommended xolo q700, and i am exploring other
 options
 too.

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  hi purusottam
 u are right.
 But dear don't write such frustrating things.
 Because some our friends like salimbhai are trying best to access the
 enroyed
 i personally think that when we are unable to change cenario
 we should accept the reality and be optimistic.
 Our such negative statement will frustrate those who are trying to
 access
 sorry if i have hurt u.
 -Original message-
 From: Purushottam Lodhaniya
 Sent:  26/09/2013, 12:21  am
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch
 screen
 phones.-discuss


 many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
 part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
 Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
 true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
 accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
 always found the discussion of android confusing.
 I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
 as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
 with that much confidence. This is my fear.
 Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
 think thats why we are crying for nokia.
 I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
 mobile using are over in our case.


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 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
 windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction
 of
 iPhone users who say their phones are much better than symbian phones
 both
 from the perspectives of accessibility and wide range of accessible
 applications apple has given to those blind users.
  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for
 symbian
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2013-09-26 Thread Abdul Razzaq
it is very easy to listen caller name. while getting incoming call,
press any of volume key, then, place ur finger center of the screen it
will read out caller name, or#

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2013-09-26 Thread Purushottam Lodhaniya
everybody will change their mind dear salam sir, as we do not have any
other option and people like you are there to guide us.

On 9/26/13, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote:
 main problem is that, this discussion will never end unless some
 members will not change there thinking about android...

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  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for symbian
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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-26 Thread jignesh thakur
what is the best way to type on android phone without external keyboard?

On 9/26/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 great tips.
 i couldn't find out that option of caller id.
 how do you find such stuff?

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 everybody will change their mind dear salam sir, as we do not have any
 other option and people like you are there to guide us.

 On 9/26/13, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote:
 main problem is that, this discussion will never end unless some
 members will not change there thinking about android...

 On 9/25/13, sanjay ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
 1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
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 difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction
 of
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  Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for symbian
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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-25 Thread anjaneyulu
hi sir
 many thanks too specially Jignesh and purushottam and other experts

you are conducting nice and very use full discussion
sir I want know what is the different between android and touch screen mobiles?
just few months back I took second hand E5 mobile
because new peace is not available in market
even I search entire Hyderabad I spent 600 rupees for searching this
mobiles for 3 days
that time some of my friends suggested me to take android phone
but I was afride with this suggestion
does android really help full to visually impaire candidates?
shall we manage with screen god?
still in mind I have we may not able to operate this phone as like
symbian mobiles
if we can enjoy as like other phone it is fine
I'M ready to take with your blessings
if so can any one share with me your your good experience
I want to take good phone
suggest me blind friendly mobile modal NO and with company name and price.
because if I get any doubts some one will be able to clarify my needs.
thanks for your kind attention on my words.



On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-25 Thread Abdul Razzaq
Which doesn't has keypad we will call touchscreen mobile.
If you come to android, it is a different OS from google which help us
to run our mobiles.
For example, Nokia has its own OS like,simbian, or java, Microsoft has
its own OS like windows,ETC.

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2013-09-25 Thread Mahesh S. Panicker
An operating system is the basic software on which the phone runs.
Android is an OS from Google, IOS is the OS that runs on Apple
devices, Microsoft has Windows Mobile, Nokia used to have Symbian and
they also use windows and java as well.
A touchscreen is just that, a phone without a physical keypad, and on
all the OS platforms mentioned above, there are touchscreen phones. In
fact, Apple iPhone is a touchscreen device, and most of the newer
android phones are also of the same mode.
As for a reasonable budget android phone with good configuration,  I
would say Xolo Q 700 fits the bill. It started off with a price range
just under 1, but has come down a bit more since then.
Best,

On 9/25/13, Abdul Razzaq razzaq@gmail.com wrote:
 Which doesn't has keypad we will call touchscreen mobile.
 If you come to android, it is a different OS from google which help us
 to run our mobiles.
 For example, Nokia has its own OS like,simbian, or java, Microsoft has
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2013-09-25 Thread sanjay
You are right Salim.  When windows was about to be introduced in early
1990's, some Braille magazines in US published negative articles about
windows with reference to blind community claiming that it would be
difficult for vi to use windows based pc.  I am amazed by the reaction of
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 Let us  migrate to touch screen phones instead of mourning for symbian
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2013-09-25 Thread Purushottam Lodhaniya
many of us are afraid from touch screen because mobile is an important
part of our life. It is not just for calling or sms.
Today or tomorro we will have to switch to touch screen phones that is
true. But what about speed? I phones are good in terms of
accessibility as i have also heard. But they are costlier. And i have
always found the discussion of android confusing.
I can type on qwerty as good as sighted person. I can type on laptop
as well. But i do not think i will be able to use touch screen phone
with that much confidence. This is my fear.
Even at this time i am chatting on whats app while typing this mail. I
think thats why we are crying for nokia.
I may sound psyco but i strongly believe that the golden days of
mobile using are over in our case.


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 applications apple has given to those blind users.
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2013-09-24 Thread jignesh thakur
Dear friends,
I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
I could do almost everything with the phone.
But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
as the phone with physical keyboard.
I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
hardships which I had to face.
I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
enjoy both things are different.
What do you say?
Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
thanks.

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2013-09-24 Thread Purushottam Lodhaniya
thanks jignesh sir for iniciating this discussion, as i am still
afraid from buying android phone.

On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread Salim qureshi
hi, friend first of all, you are apsulootly wrong!using tuch screen
phone is more fun then the keypad.i'm doing all this task wich you
have mention without any problem! Remember one thing when there is a
will there is a way!

On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread jignesh thakur
Thank you sir.
How do you manage to type particular number while talking with someone?
How do you handle ivr?
How do you type something when you are in traffic?
Doesn’t it become annoying?
I am not against touch screen technology. As it is reality of today.
But being totally blind I faced certain difficulties with said phone.
and this discussion will help me and others like purushottam sir who
are afraid to buy android phone.
even today i see many visually impaired friends looking for second
hand simbian phones.

On 9/24/13, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi, friend first of all, you are apsulootly wrong!using tuch screen
 phone is more fun then the keypad.i'm doing all this task wich you
 have mention without any problem! Remember one thing when there is a
 will there is a way!

 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread bidh...@gmail.com
Suppose i v r is telling press 1 to know the balance, ... How is it possible 
to press 1 to know? Does talkback able to speak during call session?  
Send from nokia c5.-Original message-
From: Salim qureshi
Sent:  24/09/2013, 4:13  pm
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen 
phones.-discuss


you can easily manege ivr calls by using headphones or keeping your
phone on speeker mode...

On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you sir.
 How do you manage to type particular number while talking with someone?
 How do you handle ivr?
 How do you type something when you are in traffic?
 Doesn’t it become annoying?
 I am not against touch screen technology. As it is reality of today.
 But being totally blind I faced certain difficulties with said phone.
 and this discussion will help me and others like purushottam sir who
 are afraid to buy android phone.
 even today i see many visually impaired friends looking for second
 hand simbian phones.

 On 9/24/13, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi, friend first of all, you are apsulootly wrong!using tuch screen
 phone is more fun then the keypad.i'm doing all this task wich you
 have mention without any problem! Remember one thing when there is a
 will there is a way!

 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread Salim qureshi
yes talkback will speek if you put your phone on speeker mode or use
headphone you have to dabal tab on number 1

On 9/24/13, bidh...@gmail.com bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Suppose i v r is telling press 1 to know the balance, ... How is it
 possible to press 1 to know? Does talkback able to speak during call
 session?
 Send from nokia c5.-Original message-
 From: Salim qureshi
 Sent:  24/09/2013, 4:13  pm
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
   and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen
 phones.-discuss


 you can easily manege ivr calls by using headphones or keeping your
 phone on speeker mode...

 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you sir.
 How do you manage to type particular number while talking with someone?
 How do you handle ivr?
 How do you type something when you are in traffic?
 Doesn’t it become annoying?
 I am not against touch screen technology. As it is reality of today.
 But being totally blind I faced certain difficulties with said phone.
 and this discussion will help me and others like purushottam sir who
 are afraid to buy android phone.
 even today i see many visually impaired friends looking for second
 hand simbian phones.

 On 9/24/13, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi, friend first of all, you are apsulootly wrong!using tuch screen
 phone is more fun then the keypad.i'm doing all this task wich you
 have mention without any problem! Remember one thing when there is a
 will there is a way!

 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi
according to me, it is very difficult to operate. Because I already
used 1 touch screen mobile, name of that handset is nokia500. It is my
brother's mobile. Yes after instaling screen reader, I spent important
time to operate properly. But when I keep my finger on the handset,
that time it anounce everything. So I unable to find menu option,
unable to type number and sms. So still I am using c5. Hoping good
keyPad mobile in future. I am not discouraging anybody from my reply
mail, but just Telling you all my experience.

On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread Atul Sahay
Let's take issues one by one. The usability in open environment is
really restricted by the fact that our ability to interact through
voice gets disabled by the noise around. I faced the problem and the
solution is in using the headphone which allowed me to type etc. Use
of Fleksy was another beautiful solution to typing which I learnt from
this group and tried successfully. While I have found a few things
difficult there are also several advantages. I think we will all have
problems to begin with but once we are ahead of the learning curve, a
more accessible world awaits us. I too am trying Samsung Grand in
addition to I5 and will get back with the experience in due course.

Regards.

On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread BHAVESH
Hi accessindians,

Although it may be a dis advantage for many or some of us to use a
touch screen phones, there are some advantages as well. For instance
there were many apps we couldn't use tdue to in accessibility of the
apps on the symbian with screen readers. But look at the number of
apps we can use on the IOS or on the android. Right from performing
the basic tasks, such as call managements, up to using GPS, playing
games etc. Playing games, which was not at all possible on a symbian
phone, except for those, who had Mobile spealk. So it's up to every
individual; How does he/she takes the use of touch screen. it may be
of fun for some of us, as they might feel, that using a touch screen
phone is a revolution for the blind folks. Or some may take this as
total disappointment, as they can not take full advantage of each and
every function of their phone, dispight  of paying so much money, like
a customer without disability pays. This is my thinking. Please do not
take it personal.
Thanks,
Bhavesh.

On 9/24/13, Salim qureshi salim2...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear Siddalingeshwar, what you have tried is not an android phone.
 android is totaly deffrent.

 On 9/24/13, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote:
 according to me, it is very difficult to operate. Because I already
 used 1 touch screen mobile, name of that handset is nokia500. It is my
 brother's mobile. Yes after instaling screen reader, I spent important
 time to operate properly. But when I keep my finger on the handset,
 that time it anounce everything. So I unable to find menu option,
 unable to type number and sms. So still I am using c5. Hoping good
 keyPad mobile in future. I am not discouraging anybody from my reply
 mail, but just Telling you all my experience.

 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur jigneshthaku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends,
 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.
 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.
 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.
 I could do almost everything with the phone.
 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us
 as the phone with physical keyboard.
 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to
 hardships which I had to face.
 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.
 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.
 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.
 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible
 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?
 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic
 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?
 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to
 enjoy both things are different.
 What do you say?
 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.
 thanks.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread gufran ahmed
what about USSD? many services such as mobile banking or other e-volit services 
have certain time limit to perform a transaction. in that case what are the 
steps that should take a visually impaired user?



On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:55:19 +0530  wrote

according to me, it is very difficult to operate. Because I already



used 1 touch screen mobile, name of that handset is nokia500. It is my



brother's mobile. Yes after instaling screen reader, I spent important



time to operate properly. But when I keep my finger on the handset,



that time it anounce everything. So I unable to find menu option,



unable to type number and sms. So still I am using c5. Hoping good



keyPad mobile in future. I am not discouraging anybody from my reply



mail, but just Telling you all my experience.







On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:



 Dear friends,



 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.



 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.



 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.



 I could do almost everything with the phone.



 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us



 as the phone with physical keyboard.



 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to



 hardships which I had to face.



 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.



 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.



 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.



 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible



 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?



 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic



 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?



 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to



 enjoy both things are different.



 What do you say?



 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.



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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread Mahesh S. Panicker
More than the transition itself, the more difficult part is to take
the plung. But ones you do that and overcome the initial instinct
against change, things can fall into place. I had aganized long and
hard before taking the plunge towards the touchscreen interface, but
after I overcame the same, things have started working absolutely
fine.
I am using Xolo Q 700, a fully touchscreen phone running Android 4.2.
To dial buttons during calls, put the phone on speaker by doubltapping
audio  switch, and then doubletap dialpad icon. Both are available
towards the lower part of the phone. After that, doubletap the number
you need, Talkback works absolutely fine while on call. Best,

On 9/24/13, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed1...@rediffmail.com wrote:
 what about USSD? many services such as mobile banking or other e-volit
 services have certain time limit to perform a transaction. in that case what
 are the steps that should take a visually impaired user?



 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:55:19 +0530  wrote

according to me, it is very difficult to operate. Because I already



 used 1 touch screen mobile, name of that handset is nokia500. It is my



 brother's mobile. Yes after instaling screen reader, I spent important



 time to operate properly. But when I keep my finger on the handset,



 that time it anounce everything. So I unable to find menu option,



 unable to type number and sms. So still I am using c5. Hoping good



 keyPad mobile in future. I am not discouraging anybody from my reply



 mail, but just Telling you all my experience.







 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:



 Dear friends,



 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.



 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.



 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.



 I could do almost everything with the phone.



 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us



 as the phone with physical keyboard.



 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to



 hardships which I had to face.



 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.



 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.



 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.



 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible



 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?



 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic



 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?



 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to



 enjoy both things are different.



 What do you say?



 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.



 thanks.







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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread ishita kapoor
first of all thank you sir for starting this useful discussion.
I had same issues when i was thinking to buy an android device. And i
have bored our friends like anything with my childish questions.
This is not only yours problem. Even i was afraid to touch screen when
i can work on any mobile without any screen reader. I have seen many
sighted who do not want to use touch screen phone.
But in our case as you said we do not have any option. So accept this
reality of touch screen.
I am using xolo q700 from 10 days, and believe me it is not as tough
as i thought.
I agree that without sight it is tough to operate but possibilities are there.
So happy learning.

On 9/24/13, Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 More than the transition itself, the more difficult part is to take
 the plung. But ones you do that and overcome the initial instinct
 against change, things can fall into place. I had aganized long and
 hard before taking the plunge towards the touchscreen interface, but
 after I overcame the same, things have started working absolutely
 fine.
 I am using Xolo Q 700, a fully touchscreen phone running Android 4.2.
 To dial buttons during calls, put the phone on speaker by doubltapping
 audio  switch, and then doubletap dialpad icon. Both are available
 towards the lower part of the phone. After that, doubletap the number
 you need, Talkback works absolutely fine while on call. Best,

 On 9/24/13, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed1...@rediffmail.com wrote:
 what about USSD? many services such as mobile banking or other e-volit
 services have certain time limit to perform a transaction. in that case
 what
 are the steps that should take a visually impaired user?



 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:55:19 +0530  wrote

according to me, it is very difficult to operate. Because I already



 used 1 touch screen mobile, name of that handset is nokia500. It is my



 brother's mobile. Yes after instaling screen reader, I spent important



 time to operate properly. But when I keep my finger on the handset,



 that time it anounce everything. So I unable to find menu option,



 unable to type number and sms. So still I am using c5. Hoping good



 keyPad mobile in future. I am not discouraging anybody from my reply



 mail, but just Telling you all my experience.







 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:



 Dear friends,



 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.



 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.



 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.



 I could do almost everything with the phone.



 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us



 as the phone with physical keyboard.



 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to



 hardships which I had to face.



 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.



 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.



 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.



 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible



 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?



 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic



 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?



 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to



 enjoy both things are different.



 What do you say?



 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.



 thanks.







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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread Himanshu Sahu
Hi Friends, hitherto I have been using N-79. However, motivated by
this encouraging discussion, I too would like to experiment with
Androit phone. So please guide me that for a novice like me, which
Androit mobile will be best suited with a low budget, say, around rs.
10,000,  for initial period?


On 9/25/13, rathodrajesh...@gmail.com rathodrajesh...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi friends
 those who have started using touch screen mobile
 they really deserve compliments
 because there are as many solutions as problems in this world.
 Keep it up without frustration
 rathodrajesh...@gmail.com
 -Original message-
 From: ishita kapoor
 Sent:  24/09/2013, 10:00  pm
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
   and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen
 phones.-discuss


 first of all thank you sir for starting this useful discussion.
 I had same issues when i was thinking to buy an android device. And i
 have bored our friends like anything with my childish questions.
 This is not only yours problem. Even i was afraid to touch screen when
 i can work on any mobile without any screen reader. I have seen many
 sighted who do not want to use touch screen phone.
 But in our case as you said we do not have any option. So accept this
 reality of touch screen.
 I am using xolo q700 from 10 days, and believe me it is not as tough
 as i thought.
 I agree that without sight it is tough to operate but possibilities are
 there.
 So happy learning.

 On 9/24/13, Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 More than the transition itself, the more difficult part is to take
 the plung. But ones you do that and overcome the initial instinct
 against change, things can fall into place. I had aganized long and
 hard before taking the plunge towards the touchscreen interface, but
 after I overcame the same, things have started working absolutely
 fine.
 I am using Xolo Q 700, a fully touchscreen phone running Android 4.2.
 To dial buttons during calls, put the phone on speaker by doubltapping
 audio  switch, and then doubletap dialpad icon. Both are available
 towards the lower part of the phone. After that, doubletap the number
 you need, Talkback works absolutely fine while on call. Best,

 On 9/24/13, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed1...@rediffmail.com wrote:
 what about USSD? many services such as mobile banking or other e-volit
 services have certain time limit to perform a transaction. in that case
 what
 are the steps that should take a visually impaired user?



 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:55:19 +0530  wrote

according to me, it is very difficult to operate. Because I already



 used 1 touch screen mobile, name of that handset is nokia500. It is my



 brother's mobile. Yes after instaling screen reader, I spent important



 time to operate properly. But when I keep my finger on the handset,



 that time it anounce everything. So I unable to find menu option,



 unable to type number and sms. So still I am using c5. Hoping good



 keyPad mobile in future. I am not discouraging anybody from my reply



 mail, but just Telling you all my experience.







 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:



 Dear friends,



 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.



 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.



 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.



 I could do almost everything with the phone.



 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us



 as the phone with physical keyboard.



 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to



 hardships which I had to face.



 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.



 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.



 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.



 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible



 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service provider?



 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if basic



 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?



 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to



 enjoy both things are different.



 What do you say?



 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.



 thanks.







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Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch screen phones.-discuss

2013-09-24 Thread Purushottam Lodhaniya
i just checked with flipkart.com and found a micromex canvas model
with android 4.2.2 in 7408.


On 9/25/13, Purushottam Lodhaniya purushottamlodhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 can we use gps in any android model?
 Actually i am confused because to many applications and to many keyboards.
 I generally use mobile for calling, sms, mailing, gps surfing and for
 reading news paper.
 Will android solve my all these purposes?
 I prefer chatting over talking. And i am not fond of external keyboard.
 Thats why i havent bought android yet.


 On 9/25/13, Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Friends, hitherto I have been using N-79. However, motivated by
 this encouraging discussion, I too would like to experiment with
 Androit phone. So please guide me that for a novice like me, which
 Androit mobile will be best suited with a low budget, say, around rs.
 10,000,  for initial period?


 On 9/25/13, rathodrajesh...@gmail.com rathodrajesh...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi friends
 those who have started using touch screen mobile
 they really deserve compliments
 because there are as many solutions as problems in this world.
 Keep it up without frustration
 rathodrajesh...@gmail.com
 -Original message-
 From: ishita kapoor
 Sent:  24/09/2013, 10:00  pm
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
 and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] chalanges for totally blind in using touch
 screen
 phones.-discuss


 first of all thank you sir for starting this useful discussion.
 I had same issues when i was thinking to buy an android device. And i
 have bored our friends like anything with my childish questions.
 This is not only yours problem. Even i was afraid to touch screen when
 i can work on any mobile without any screen reader. I have seen many
 sighted who do not want to use touch screen phone.
 But in our case as you said we do not have any option. So accept this
 reality of touch screen.
 I am using xolo q700 from 10 days, and believe me it is not as tough
 as i thought.
 I agree that without sight it is tough to operate but possibilities are
 there.
 So happy learning.

 On 9/24/13, Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 More than the transition itself, the more difficult part is to take
 the plung. But ones you do that and overcome the initial instinct
 against change, things can fall into place. I had aganized long and
 hard before taking the plunge towards the touchscreen interface, but
 after I overcame the same, things have started working absolutely
 fine.
 I am using Xolo Q 700, a fully touchscreen phone running Android 4.2.
 To dial buttons during calls, put the phone on speaker by doubltapping
 audio  switch, and then doubletap dialpad icon. Both are available
 towards the lower part of the phone. After that, doubletap the number
 you need, Talkback works absolutely fine while on call. Best,

 On 9/24/13, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed1...@rediffmail.com wrote:
 what about USSD? many services such as mobile banking or other e-volit
 services have certain time limit to perform a transaction. in that
 case
 what
 are the steps that should take a visually impaired user?



 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:55:19 +0530  wrote

according to me, it is very difficult to operate. Because I already



 used 1 touch screen mobile, name of that handset is nokia500. It is my



 brother's mobile. Yes after instaling screen reader, I spent important



 time to operate properly. But when I keep my finger on the handset,



 that time it anounce everything. So I unable to find menu option,



 unable to type number and sms. So still I am using c5. Hoping good



 keyPad mobile in future. I am not discouraging anybody from my reply



 mail, but just Telling you all my experience.







 On 9/24/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:



 Dear friends,



 I would like to discuss this important issue with you all in details.



 As nokia simbian are out of market now. We don’t have many choices.



 I tried my friend’s Samsung galaxy grand.



 I could do almost everything with the phone.



 But still I feel that touch screen phone is not as convenient for us



 as the phone with physical keyboard.



 I used the phone for few days. But I lost the charm of mobile due to



 hardships which I had to face.



 I can operate my c5 everywhere and in every condition.



 But I couldn’t operate Samsung galaxy grand with the same eas.



 Practically I faced difficulty in typing while traveling.



 To note down any number while talking on phone was almost impossible



 I couldn’t find how to deal with ivr while calling any service
 provider?



 I haven’t tried any advance applications. But you can imagine if
 basic



 things were so tough what to say about advanced usage?



 It is true that we can manage with touch screen, but to manage and to



 enjoy both things are different.



 What do you say?



 Please share your experience on this subject to help me and others.



 thanks