Re: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread Bunyamin Karadeniz

It was talked on the list and had been said that 1% of performance it
affects nearly as I remember.
Bunyamin
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 Do you guys think making times statistic =true has any performance impact
.
 Are there any other considerations ?

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   Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
   may be dynamic
   and
   not require a database bounce.
 
  True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
  (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
  counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't
recommend
  using the time values otherwise.
 
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Re: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-02 Thread Bunyamin Karadeniz

Check if the processor is P4.
If so , you must  replace the symcjit.dll and jvm.dll  with the ones in 9i
CD.

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 One of our developers is having a problem installing Oracle Client
 (8.1.7).  When he inserts the CD the initial screen comes up with the
 options to Install/Deinstall products, Explore CD, Browse Documentation.
 When he clicks on Install/Deinstall, however the Oracle Installer never
 comes
 up.

 Any ideas what might be wrong?

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Re: performance

2002-07-02 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

 I didn't mean to be so stiff on the reply -- sorry for that...
You are excused...
Just kidding. :-) I didn't mean that either - my apologies.

And you may be very right on the political perspective. What's done is done.
It could be not the right time for late general setups, but analysis is
always a good choice.

 The most common issues in the redo stream are certainly sizing and I/O.
 Yes, it can be quite cut-and-dried.  But Ravi merely mentioned that
 performance was slower after enabling ARCHIVELOG mode and for all we
know,
 it truly may have nothing to do with the redo logging stream whatsoever.
It
 could be something else (i.e. bad SQL that someone recently slammed in at
 the same time) that neither Ravi (nor we) are aware of.  It could be
 anything at all...

 So, making changes in the complete absence of information can easily end
up
 with the following scenario:  Ravi makes the recommended changes (i.e. add
 redo log groups, change group sizes, pester SysAdmins to create new
 file-systems to separate online from archived destinations, etc), all with
 no impact on performance.  Thus, his credibility is harmed, if not totally
 destroyed.  Happens all the time...(8 million stories in the naked
city)...

 Better to look first, understand exactly what is happening, and act on
real
 information.

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  I've assumed, that nothing changed beside ARCHIVE LOG mode. when Our DB
 is
  non-archive mode that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow
  This directs to the question of I/O with archiving redo logs in first
 turn.
  Doesn't it? What may be other direct performance issues of ARCHIVE LOG
 mode?
  I admit that there is not enough information, which may easily make me
  mistaken. However, there should be some general setup for archive log
 mode,
  and that's what I gave. General setup should be made before moving to
  archivelog mode and taken as basis for further tuning.
 
  Alexandre
 
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   Alexandre,
  
   I beg to differ.
  
   You have assumed, in the complete absence of any information, that he
 has
  an
   I/O problem.  He might.  He also might not.  He should look first,
 before
   leaping.
  
   -Tim
  
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Ravi,
   
Make sure you have at least 5-10 redo log groups. That's depends on
 your
workload. You also may need to increase their size. Think how much
log
   info
your database can generate and size your logs that it would be
enough
  for
   10
mins at least. (Of course that would be pretty rough estimation)
Also make sure you put redo logs and arcived redo logs on differend
  disks!
So that's for start. After, you may follow advice given in Tim's
 reply.
   
hth
Alexandre
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 Dear All,

 Can any one please give me some hints or tips when we
 move to archive mode? when Our DB is non-archive mode
 that was ok,when we moved to Archive, it is dead slow.

  Obviosuly archive mode performance is slow, is there
 any other precations to be taken care?

 Thanks for your help.
 Cheers,
 Ravi

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Re: Oracle8i Upgrade Exam Material

2002-07-02 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

Oracle9i New Features is pretty much concise and descriptive at the same
time. Good Job!
I used Oracle8i New Features For Administrators Exam Cram and found it a
helpful resource. Thanks!
Alexandre
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 The Oracle8i New Features For Administrators Exam Cram by Robert Freeman
 (Tours Truly)
 is available on Amazon. Not that I get a dime of royalty out of it
 anymore :-(

 RF

 Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
 Oracle Database Architect
 CSX Midtier Database Administration
 Author: Oracle9i New Features
 Mastering Oracle8i

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 Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
 guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and
 your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin'
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 I am going to be taking the Oracle8i: New Features for Administrators
 (1Z0-020) exam and am looking for study materials. Can anyone recommend
and
 books for this exam? Thanks

 Erik

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Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

Hallo,

anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you want to schedule a 
job to run every four week.
Is it possible to do that in unix cron job schedule.

Thanks in advance


Roland

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Oracle 8.1 and 8.0.5 compatibility

2002-07-02 Thread Marcello Savino

I had a problem.
Trying to drop a column from a Oracle 8i Table (personal edition on a
w2kPro) i got the following message (or similar)  you can't drop a table
with 8.0.5 compatibility, you need at least 8.1.0. !
Ok, i changed compatibiliy parameter from 8.0.5 to 8.1.0 (using dba studio)
and all seems to be right.
The first time i've restarted the dba machine Oracle did not come up any
more (the db was mounted but not opened).
Other way i cant go back to 8.0.5 compatibility because the dropped column !
what can i do ?
Any help will be appreciated.
Marcello
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Re: Oracle 8.1 and 8.0.5 compatibility

2002-07-02 Thread Bunyamin Karadeniz

I had experienced a similar thing too. But I had opened the database with
the compatible parameter database needed to startup..

Try to change the compatible parameter in my opinion to open the database.
,

Bunyamin



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 I had a problem.
 Trying to drop a column from a Oracle 8i Table (personal edition on a
 w2kPro) i got the following message (or similar)  you can't drop a table
 with 8.0.5 compatibility, you need at least 8.1.0. !
 Ok, i changed compatibiliy parameter from 8.0.5 to 8.1.0 (using dba
studio)
 and all seems to be right.
 The first time i've restarted the dba machine Oracle did not come up any
 more (the db was mounted but not opened).
 Other way i cant go back to 8.0.5 compatibility because the dropped column
!
 what can i do ?
 Any help will be appreciated.
 Marcello
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Re: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-02 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

Jared's passion to regular expessions is understandable after book Perl for
Oracle DBAs :)

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 Yes, but not nearly as flexible as owa_pattern, and infinitely
 more difficult to read.

 Jared

 On Monday 01 July 2002 14:33, Kirsch, Walter J (Northrop Grumman) wrote:
  Actually, it's simpler to use the trick
 
  select translate('abc123def432', '~1234567890','~') from dual;
 
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  Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.
 
  Here's an example:
 
  declare
 tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882
  dig2its';
  begin
 dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
 -- remove the digits
 owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
 dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
 -- remove the extra spaces
 owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
 dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
  end;
  /
 
  Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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  Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?
 
  The string might look like this: 'abc123def432'
  and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.
 
  I'm using Oracle 8.
 
 
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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Stephane Faroult


Hallo,

anyone who has a good example on how to write in
the crontab if you want to schedule a job to run
every four week.
Is it possible to do that in unix cron job
schedule.

Thanks in advance


Roland


Roland,

   Please, just for once, couldn't you try to figure out things by yourself and type 
'man crontab'? I am naively optimistic about human nature but you make me despair. I'd 
be really happy to read one day from one of your posts something you have picked up in 
a doc I have not had time to read myself. Really.

Regards,

Stephane Faroult
Oriole
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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Nils Höglund


 anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you want to schedule 
a job to run every four week.
 Is it possible to do that in unix cron job schedule.

Yes, it is very possible.

Run 'crontab -e' as apropeate user. Your $EDITOR will open.
Write as described in crontab(5) manual ('man 5 crontab'):

0 */4 * * * your_command

This will run your_command every four hours (first field which minutes,
second field in which hours)

You can also edit the /etc/crontab-file (if avaible on your system.) This
file has a different syntax (you specify the user who is going to run the
command too.)

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OPS and redos

2002-07-02 Thread Malik, Fawzia



Hi gurus,

I have a query..Basically we have an OPS set up here (8.0.6) and I have
noticed that the scn on node A is 500 and the scn on node B is 2000. I am
concerned about this w.r.t recovery- surely this would be an issue ??I
logged a call with oracle and they said it wasnt an issue, but then I read
in a document that it WAS an issue and could potentially lose everything
between 500 abd 2000..and that the workaround would be to add more logs to A
or to modify the check point interval

Please can you advise??

Rgds

Fawzia


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RE: Oracle client won't install on Windows 2000

2002-07-02 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

On metastink check out NOTE:131299.1.  This has detailed instructions for three 
different work arounds.

Dave

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Hi
I am guessing that he has a P4 cpu in the system and you need to do the 
following. There is also a new installer to overcome this as well but 
don't have the info at hand there is more on Metalink

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One of our developers is having a problem installing Oracle Client
(8.1.7).  When he inserts the CD the initial screen comes up with the
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ADVANCED_REPLICATION ?

2002-07-02 Thread Jackson Dumas

Hi

I would like someone out there to give me a name of a good book and
websites where I can learn more about Replication. From configuration
(setting up replication) to solving problems (conflict resolutions /
trouble shooting).
Please any website and good book. I am involved in big project and I
must learn this fast.

Thank you,

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RE: iFS

2002-07-02 Thread Robson, Peter



First 
off - thanks to Chris and Alexandre for their helpful input on the subject of 
iFS.

Brief 
question - does anyone know of the status of SQL as an interface to iFS? I know 
this has been promised, but whether delivered yet I just don't 
know...

thanks,

peter
edinburgh
.

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  RE: iFS
  Peter,
  
  I have spent some time demonstrating and publicising 
  iFS within my part of the business, mainly as a document management 
  system. I have only demonstrated the basic, out-of-the-box product 
  as I have no budget to develop it further. Although it stimulates 
  initial interest among the user community it is often seen as being abit 
  'clunky' in comprison to off-the-shelf DMSs. I like the product and the 
  functionality it provides out-of-the-box and am sure that there is a market 
  for it but as mentioned am not in a good position to demo what it is capable 
  of. I have introduced it internally to manage documents 
  centrallyand this seems to have gone down well bit I have had to 
  recommend that only the webui is used as there seems to be problems (that 
  neither I nor Oracle have managed to resolve) with the SMB interface when 
  using certain PCs.
  
  Hope this helps,
  
  Chris Johnson
  
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iFS
Has anyone experieince with iFS? I would much appreciate any 
(off-line if preferred) comments on user experiece.

thanks,

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RE: ADVANCED_REPLICATION ?

2002-07-02 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Oracle Distributed Systems

by Charles Dye

Published by O'Reilly

ISBN:  1-56592-432-0

Also check the online docs for the replication sections.

Dave

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Hi

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Thank you,

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Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread Cherie_Machler


We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal spot
in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
application to production.We will be moving to production in the
September timeframe.

I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience been?
Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
These are web-based front-ends.

What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How long
do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

Thanks for your feedback,

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Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-02 Thread dgoulet

Guess who did?

MetaLink V2 - Note 

  An error occured while trying to query the system.
  Please try again later
  [CODE : -12541 ] 

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!!

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Re:Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread dgoulet

Cherie,

For the most part I don't like using version X.0 at any point.  Now in
version 8, I did get onto 8.0.5, but I did wait for the .5 to show up.  With 8i
it's 8.1.6 that was our baseline although I'm a lot happier with 8.1.7.  For 9i
I won't touch anything before 9.2, which is waiting for a test home right now. 
On the other hand I think it's a pretty wise idea to be on the latest version
before going into production since that way you have a longer period of time
before having to upgrade again.  I just like having some other poor slob find
the bugs first.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/2/2002 5:58 AM


We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal spot
in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
application to production.We will be moving to production in the
September timeframe.

I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience been?
Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
These are web-based front-ends.

What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How long
do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

Thanks for your feedback,

Cherie Machler
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Re: iFS

2002-07-02 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev



Peter,
I'm not sure what do you mean by the SQL interface 
for iFS. Can you elaborateor give some links to resources?
afaik, iFS is created to store non-relational data. 
However, this is mapped to relational schema in DB where iFS stores all the 
information. There are also some Views created in iFS schemathat may be 
used for SELECTs. Basically, it's possible to makeDMLon internal 
tables of iFS, but... guess what... not recommended/supported by 
Oracle.

Question on another topic about iFS:
Has anybody found the solution to restore a single 
file in iFS?
"Oracle9i Release 2 New Features" document says 
that it's possible. In fact this is the first new feature in the listof 
changes foriFS coming with 9iR2.
However, the Admin. Guide for iFS doesn't say 
anything about it.there are the same 3 paragraphs on the matter of 
Backup/Recovery. (Ahrrr... can you believe it?)
I'm going to talk to Oracle support regarding this, 
but if someone has any info, I would much appreciate it.

Regards,
Alexandre

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Robson, Peter 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:23 
PM
  Subject: RE: iFS
  
  First off - thanks to Chris and Alexandre for their helpful input on 
  the subject of iFS.
  
  Brief question - does anyone know of the status of SQL as an interface 
  to iFS? I know this has been promised, but whether delivered yet I just don't 
  know...
  
  thanks,
  
  peter
  edinburgh
  .
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 26 June 2002 
16:09To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: iFS
Peter,

I have spent some time demonstrating and 
publicising iFS within my part of the business, mainly as a document 
management system. I have only demonstrated the basic, 
out-of-the-box product as I have no budget to develop it further. 
Although it stimulates initial interest among the user community it is often 
seen as being abit 'clunky' in comprison to off-the-shelf DMSs. 
I like the product and the functionality it provides out-of-the-box and am 
sure that there is a market for it but as mentioned am not in a good 
position to demo what it is capable of. I have introduced it 
internally to manage documents centrallyand this seems to have gone 
down well bit I have had to recommend that only the webui is used as there 
seems to be problems (that neither I nor Oracle have managed to resolve) 
with the SMB interface when using certain PCs.

Hope this helps,

Chris Johnson

  -Original Message-From: Robson, Peter 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 26 June 2002 12:35To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  iFS
  Has anyone experieince with iFS? I would much appreciate any 
  (off-line if preferred) comments on user experiece.
  
  thanks,
  
  peter
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Re:Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread Cherie_Machler


Dick,

Thanks for your comments.   So, the bottom line is that you are
recommending moving from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

Cherie


   
  
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Cherie,

For the most part I don't like using version X.0 at any point.  Now in
version 8, I did get onto 8.0.5, but I did wait for the .5 to show up.
With 8i
it's 8.1.6 that was our baseline although I'm a lot happier with 8.1.7.
For 9i
I won't touch anything before 9.2, which is waiting for a test home right
now.
On the other hand I think it's a pretty wise idea to be on the latest
version
before going into production since that way you have a longer period of
time
before having to upgrade again.  I just like having some other poor slob
find
the bugs first.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/2/2002 5:58 AM


We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal spot
in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
application to production.We will be moving to production in the
September timeframe.

I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience been?
Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
These are web-based front-ends.

What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How long
do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

Thanks for your feedback,

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Jared Still


Please don't use 'crontab -e', unless you are saving your
crontab files and using some form of version control on them.

'crontabe -e' is inherently dangerous, as it is too easy to remove
lines unintentionally, and then they are gone for good.

Jared

On Tuesday 02 July 2002 04:28, Nils Höglund wrote:
  anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you want
  to schedule a job to run every four week. Is it possible to do that in
  unix cron job schedule.

 Yes, it is very possible.

 Run 'crontab -e' as apropeate user. Your $EDITOR will open.
 Write as described in crontab(5) manual ('man 5 crontab'):

 0 */4 * * * your_command

 This will run your_command every four hours (first field which minutes,
 second field in which hours)

 You can also edit the /etc/crontab-file (if avaible on your system.) This
 file has a different syntax (you specify the user who is going to run the
 command too.)
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Re: Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-02 Thread Simon . Anderson



For those of you in the Oracle Partner program, here's what looks like another
little bug to add to the 'Unbreakable' list...

Log into the Oracle partner network at http://oraclepartnernetwork.oracle.com/
and look for the Product Query Tool under 'Pricing' - It gives the cost of the
various Oracle options in various currencies.

Choose Enterprise Edition, try to get a price in Italy and it completly fails to
cope with the currency conversion, resulting in a price of 0. for a two-year
user license, with the same for support and upgrade.  I can only assume that
nobody in Italy is an Oracle Partner, or they're keeping very quiet about
getting the Database for free...

Somebody tell me this stuff doesn't run on Oracle software.

Simon Anderson


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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread lembark



-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 00:43:19 -0800

 Hallo,
 
 anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you want to
 schedule a job to run every four week. Is it possible to do that in unix cron
 job schedule.

Monthly is doable. Every 28 days requires using at,
or a more flexable scheduling tool. That or cron the job
daily and have it decide whether 28 days have passed 
since it last ran (e.g., based on a time string stored
in a file).

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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread lembark



-- Nils Höglund [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 03:28:20 -0800

 0 */4 * * * your_command

$ man 5 cronttab;


 The time and date fields are:

  field  allowed values
  -  --
  minute 0-59
  hour   0-23
  day of month   1-31
  month  1-12 (or names, see below)
  day of week0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names)

   A field may be an asterisk (*), which always stands for ``first-last''.

   Ranges  of numbers are allowed.  Ranges are two numbers separated with a
hyphen.  The specified range
   is inclusive.  For example, 8-11 for an ``hours'' entry specifies
execution at hours 8, 9, 10 and 11.

   Lists  are  allowed.   A  list  is  a  set  of  numbers  (or  ranges)
separated by commas.  Examples:
   ``1,2,5,9'', ``0-4,8-12''.
:


Question: how does 0 */4 * * * cause something to run every
4 weeks? Unless your version has a different field order. It
might work to try * */628 * * * but I'm not sure that cron
allows n24 for the hourly divisor.

The combination of date and weekday can approximate the 4-week
cycle.



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Re: Questionable V$SQLAREA Statistics

2002-07-02 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (ubTools)

Hi,

You should not compare tkprof outputs with V$SQL,V$SQLAREA. Because,
recursive/child statistics are included in their parent statements in these
views. But, tkprof substructs recursive statistics. I mean tkprof reports real
values for statements, but dictionary doesn't.

regards...


Orr, Steve wrote:

 Here's the scene:

 1) I have a 400,000 row table table which is cached.

 2) I have a query against that table and no other with one column referenced
 in the WHERE clause. (This column is indexed and of course I don't really
 need the index since the table is cached but it's there so ho hum...)

 3) When I run tkprof on the query it shows a full table scan ignoring the
 index... that's what I want 'cause it's cached.

 4) But when I look at V$SQLAREA the DISK_READS column is incremented.

 5) This query is executed very often so my StatsPack report lists it as one
 of the most expensive queries in terms of physical reads.

 It appears that Oracle is counting full table scans of cached tables as
 DISK_READS in V$SQLAREA. Seems like this is a bug to me 'cause it's not
 really a physical disk read but is getting data from the buffers.

 Don't you think this is a bug? Has anyone seen this before?

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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Alex

http://www.superscripts.com/tutorial/crontab.html

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 Is it possible to do that in unix cron job schedule.

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Re: Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

Cherie,
Before any upgrade I consider whether or no I really need it. For
mission critical application it would be wise to stick with what you have,
unless you have problems with it.
Now we have 9.0.1.2 in production and 9.1.3 in development and I don't
intend to move to 9.2 in nearest time.

Alexandre
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 We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
 These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
 been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal
spot
 in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
 could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
 application to production.We will be moving to production in the
 September timeframe.

 I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
 are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience
been?
 Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

 We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
 and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
 replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
 These are web-based front-ends.

 What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
 us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
 or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How
long
 do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

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Re[2]:Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread dgoulet

Cherie,

First off, I had no plans to ever use 9.0 anywhere other than test to see
what was new.  In your case your already on 9.0.1 and appear happy with that. 
Given that you could deploy o 9.0.1 or upgrade to 9.2 now and hope for a longer
time before the next upgrade.  Personally I'd make the argument to upgrade. 
Better to be on the bleeding edge at deployment time than  on the edge of
desupport.

Dick Goulet

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Dick,

Thanks for your comments.   So, the bottom line is that you are
recommending moving from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

Cherie



 
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Cherie,

For the most part I don't like using version X.0 at any point.  Now in
version 8, I did get onto 8.0.5, but I did wait for the .5 to show up.
With 8i
it's 8.1.6 that was our baseline although I'm a lot happier with 8.1.7.
For 9i
I won't touch anything before 9.2, which is waiting for a test home right
now.
On the other hand I think it's a pretty wise idea to be on the latest
version
before going into production since that way you have a longer period of
time
before having to upgrade again.  I just like having some other poor slob
find
the bugs first.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/2/2002 5:58 AM


We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal spot
in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
application to production.We will be moving to production in the
September timeframe.

I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience been?
Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
These are web-based front-ends.

What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How long
do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

Thanks for your feedback,

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Oracle DBA
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Re: OPS and redos

2002-07-02 Thread Anjo Kolk

Fawzia,

Oracle it self will keep an eye on that also. It will kick the other instance
if it falls behind. So that the redo file will be switched.

Anjo.



Malik, Fawzia wrote:

 Hi gurus,

 I have a query..Basically we have an OPS set up here (8.0.6) and I have
 noticed that the scn on node A is 500 and the scn on node B is 2000. I am
 concerned about this w.r.t recovery- surely this would be an issue ??I
 logged a call with oracle and they said it wasnt an issue, but then I read
 in a document that it WAS an issue and could potentially lose everything
 between 500 abd 2000..and that the workaround would be to add more logs to A
 or to modify the check point interval

 Please can you advise??

 Rgds

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Re: Sql query

2002-07-02 Thread Jared Still


OJNK?  Your term Larry?  Or do I need to RTFM?

Didn't realize this had a name.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 18:48, Larry Elkins wrote:
 Greg,

 When the situation is appropriate, and I don't want a correlated approach,
 I will typically use the hash aj as illustrated by your second example, the
 NOT IN using a hash aj. That's my preference, when correlation is not
 appropriate. And I work with some DB's where always_anti_join is set to
 hash and don't even have to use the HASH_AJ hint, *if* the conditions for
 using a hash aj are met.

 And that's where the beauty of the first approach comes in. Suppose the
 query is such that you *don't* want it correlated, and the conditions for
 using a hash aj *can't* be met, you can use the first approach, and force a
 hash join (outer) if required. You will often times get similar performance
 as the hash aj. For example, if you forced a hash join via hints in your
 first example, the OJNK approach (outer join null key, pronounced O Junk,
 no need for a GNU discussion) might provide very similar results as the
 hash aj approach. And that's when I use the OJNK approach, when I want a
 hash type of join, but the conditions for using a hash aj can't be met.
 That is its real strength. I avoid the OJNK approach otherwise simply
 because some will be confused by the coding, not realizing an anti-join is
 being performed. And yes, you can include comments saying so, but some
 folks will still mistake its purpose ;-)

 Anyway, here is an example similar to yours, but I forced a hash join when
 using the OJNK approach. But I'm with you, I lean towards using the
 HASH_AJ, when appropriate, over the OJNK approach, but mileage varies, not
 one size fits all, fill in your favorite cliché here. Just wanted to point
 out that the OJNK approach can be a *savior* when the conditions for a hash
 aj being used can't be met and a correlated approach is the wrong way to
 go. The numbers:

 select count(*)
 from code_master
 where code not in (select /*+ HASH_AJ */ code from code_detail)

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- -- 
 -- 
 Parse1  0.03   0.03  0  0  0
 0
 Execute  2  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
 0
 Fetch1  2.33  53.23   5855859144
 1
 --- --   -- -- -- -- 
 -- 
 total4  2.36  53.26   5855859144
 1

 Rows Row Source Operation
 ---  ---
   1  SORT AGGREGATE
 100   HASH JOIN ANTI
  10INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 67350)
  299600VIEW VW_NSO_1
  299600 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 69013)

 ***
* 

 select /*+ ORDERED USE_HASH(cd) */ count(*)
 from code_master cm, code_detail cd
 where cm.code = cd.code (+)
 and cd.code is null

 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
 rows
 --- --   -- -- -- -- 
 -- 
 Parse1  0.03   0.03  0  0  0
 0
 Execute  2  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
 0
 Fetch1  2.39  57.47   5855859144
 1
 --- --   -- -- -- -- 
 -- 
 total4  2.42  57.50   5855859144
 1

 Rows Row Source Operation
 ---  ---
   1  SORT AGGREGATE
 100   FILTER
  299700HASH JOIN OUTER
  10 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 67350)
  299600 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 69013)

 And you don't want to see the numbers for the correlated nested loops
 approach, more than an hour.

 Okay, OJNK a little slower in this case, but if a hash aj *couldn't* be
 used, and a correlated approach was *not* the way to go, the OJNK approach
 can save the day and be a nice alternative if you utilize a hash join.

 Regards,

 Larry G. Elkins
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 2 versions of SQL + TKPROF excerpts

 8.1.6,  Solaris

 
 SQL version #1
 

 select count(*)
   from customers c
  , sales s
  where c.customer_id = s.customer_id(+)
and s.customer_id is null

count  cpu elapsed disk  query current rows

 total 4  7.337.361 200352   41

 RowsRow Source Operation
 --- 
 1   SORT AGGREGATE
 99105FILTER
 169049NESTED LOOPS OUTER
 10 INDEX FAST FULL SCAN (object id 22199)
 69944  INDEX RANGE SCAN (object id 22232)

 

ORA-3113 while using DBCA RAC on LINUX clusters

2002-07-02 Thread Jack van Zanen


Hi All,



We are trying to install RAC on LINUX Cluster and have gotten a long way,
however when the DBCA tries to create the database we get ORA-03113
(end-of-file on communication channel).
We are sort of lost for ideas and hope that you guys(m/f) have already
struggled your way through the installation before and can help us solve
the problem.


TIA



Jack

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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: Unix - scheduling





Is a strick 14 day rule absolutely necessary, if not...a much more hassle free way would be to
simply schedule the cronjob to run on the 1st and 15th of each month, i.e.


# Min Hr Day Mon WkDay Command
0 0 1,15 * * script




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-- Nils Höglund [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 03:28:20 -0800


 0 */4 * * * your_command


$ man 5 cronttab;



 The time and date fields are:


 field allowed values
 - --
 minute 0-59
 hour 0-23
 day of month 1-31
 month 1-12 (or names, see below)
 day of week 0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names)


 A field may be an asterisk (*), which always stands for ``first-last''.


 Ranges of numbers are allowed. Ranges are two numbers separated with a
hyphen. The specified range
 is inclusive. For example, 8-11 for an ``hours'' entry specifies
execution at hours 8, 9, 10 and 11.


 Lists are allowed. A list is a set of numbers (or ranges)
separated by commas. Examples:
 ``1,2,5,9'', ``0-4,8-12''.
:



Question: how does 0 */4 * * * cause something to run every
4 weeks? Unless your version has a different field order. It
might work to try * */628 * * * but I'm not sure that cron
allows n24 for the hourly divisor.


The combination of date and weekday can approximate the 4-week
cycle.




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Re: Re:Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread Yechiel Adar

Hello Cherie

I think that I saw somewhere that support for 9.0.1 will go away
about June 2003 while support for 9iR2 will be until 2005.

Yechiel Adar
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 Thanks for your comments.   So, the bottom line is that you are
 recommending moving from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

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 Please respond
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 Cherie,

 For the most part I don't like using version X.0 at any point.  Now in
 version 8, I did get onto 8.0.5, but I did wait for the .5 to show up.
 With 8i
 it's 8.1.6 that was our baseline although I'm a lot happier with 8.1.7.
 For 9i
 I won't touch anything before 9.2, which is waiting for a test home right
 now.
 On the other hand I think it's a pretty wise idea to be on the latest
 version
 before going into production since that way you have a longer period of
 time
 before having to upgrade again.  I just like having some other poor slob
 find
 the bugs first.

 Dick Goulet

 Reply Separator
 Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   7/2/2002 5:58 AM


 We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
 These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
 been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal
spot
 in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
 could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
 application to production.We will be moving to production in the
 September timeframe.

 I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
 are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience
been?
 Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

 We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
 and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
 replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
 These are web-based front-ends.

 What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
 us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
 or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How
long
 do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

 Thanks for your feedback,

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 Oracle DBA
 Gelco Information Network

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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Hand, Michael T

Roland,
crontab alone will not meet your needs.  Hint: check the date command and
MOD type fuctionality in a shell script.
Good luck,
Mike

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Hallo,

anyone who has a good example on how to write in
the crontab if you want to schedule a job to run
every four week.
Is it possible to do that in unix cron job
schedule.

Thanks in advance


Roland


Roland,

   Please, just for once, couldn't you try to figure out things by yourself
and type 'man crontab'? I am naively optimistic about human nature but you
make me despair. I'd be really happy to read one day from one of your posts
something you have picked up in a doc I have not had time to read myself.
Really.

Regards,

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Upgrade from 9.0.1.2

2002-07-02 Thread Harvinder Singh

Hi,

We are currently testing our application on 9.0.1.2 and it looks stable except some 
bugs with function based indexes.
Is it advisable to move to 9.0.1.3 (as it is terminal release of 9.0) or 9.2 which is 
just released 2 months back (and may have some bugs)
OR 9.0.1.2 is stable enough and we can ship our product on this release. Any feedback 
on 9.0.1.2 is highly appreciated
Function based index bugs are not fixes in either of release.
Platform are sun 2.8 and WIN2K
We have to make decision this week to give QA enough time for testing

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RE: Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

The choice should be between 9.0.1.3 + patch 2121935 or 9.2.  The patch is to fix a 
serious, serious security problem with ANSI-style  joins.If you feel the need to 
go to 9i, I'd choose the latter.  I don't think 9.2 has been out long enough.

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Cherie,
Before any upgrade I consider whether or no I really need it. For
mission critical application it would be wise to stick with what you have,
unless you have problems with it.
Now we have 9.0.1.2 in production and 9.1.3 in development and I don't
intend to move to 9.2 in nearest time.

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 We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
 These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
 been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal
spot
 in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
 could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
 application to production.We will be moving to production in the
 September timeframe.

 I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
 are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience
been?
 Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

 We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
 and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
 replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
 These are web-based front-ends.

 What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
 us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
 or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How
long
 do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

 Thanks for your feedback,

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SQL*Plus/UTL_FILE vs. 3'rd Party Data Extraction

2002-07-02 Thread Post, Ethan

I have some people who are asking about 3'rd party data extraction tools to
pull data from Oracle into text files for loading a data warehouse.  I am
not sure what the size of the project is but I think it is pretty big.  The
DW is Terradata.  Anyway, they are stating Oracle tools are too slow.  They
do not define slow so it is hard to argue with them.  My opinion is that it
is very dependent on hardware (CPU/Disk) in most cases.

What are your opinions on the matter, do you need 3'rd party?  What tools
are you using (I am aware of Informatica and such but I think they are
looking for something a little cheaper)?

Thanks,
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More info About RAC, LINUX and ORA-03113

2002-07-02 Thread Jack van Zanen

Oracle version 9i release 2
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RE: Re[2]:Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Cherie,

I agree with Dick.  As long as you have time to install 9.2 on your
development machine and assure yourself that it, at least, does not hurt
you, I would go with 9.2 now just to give yourself breathing room for the
next year or so.

If you stick with 9.0, you know that you will begin to feel the pressure to
upgrade sometime soon.

I always go with the highest level possible as soon as possible.

Hope this helps.

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Cherie,

First off, I had no plans to ever use 9.0 anywhere other than test to
see
what was new.  In your case your already on 9.0.1 and appear happy with
that. 
Given that you could deploy o 9.0.1 or upgrade to 9.2 now and hope for a
longer
time before the next upgrade.  Personally I'd make the argument to upgrade. 
Better to be on the bleeding edge at deployment time than  on the edge of
desupport.

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Dick,

Thanks for your comments.   So, the bottom line is that you are
recommending moving from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

Cherie


 

 
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Cherie,

For the most part I don't like using version X.0 at any point.  Now in
version 8, I did get onto 8.0.5, but I did wait for the .5 to show up.
With 8i
it's 8.1.6 that was our baseline although I'm a lot happier with 8.1.7.
For 9i
I won't touch anything before 9.2, which is waiting for a test home right
now.
On the other hand I think it's a pretty wise idea to be on the latest
version
before going into production since that way you have a longer period of
time
before having to upgrade again.  I just like having some other poor slob
find
the bugs first.

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We have a couple of new applications in development that are moving to QA.
These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun Solaris 2.6.   We've
been pretty happy with this version to this point but are at a pivotal spot
in our product development cycle where we have a narrow window in which we
could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle and move the
application to production.We will be moving to production in the
September timeframe.

I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not sure how many people
are using it.   For those that are using it, what has your experience been?
Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?

We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse that uses partitioning,
and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We do not use MTS or
replication.   Our character set is UTF8.  We will be essentially 24 X 7.
These are web-based front-ends.

What do you guys think?   This OLTP database is very mission critical for
us, once it gets to production.   Is it worth moving to 9.2 at this point
or should we wait awhile until a couple more patchsets come out?   How long
do people wait for a new release to settle before they move to it?

Thanks for your feedback,

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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Michael Cupp

He specified that 0 */4 * * * would cause it to run every 4 hours.  He provided an 
example.

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-- Nils Höglund [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 03:28:20 -0800

 0 */4 * * * your_command

$ man 5 cronttab;


 The time and date fields are:

  field  allowed values
  -  --
  minute 0-59
  hour   0-23
  day of month   1-31
  month  1-12 (or names, see below)
  day of week0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names)

   A field may be an asterisk (*), which always stands for ``first-last''.

   Ranges  of numbers are allowed.  Ranges are two numbers separated with a 
hyphen.  The specified range
   is inclusive.  For example, 8-11 for an ``hours'' entry specifies execution at 
hours 8, 9, 10 and 11.

   Lists  are  allowed.   A  list  is  a  set  of  numbers  (or  ranges)
separated by commas.  Examples:
   ``1,2,5,9'', ``0-4,8-12''.
:


Question: how does 0 */4 * * * cause something to run every
4 weeks? Unless your version has a different field order. It might work to try * 
*/628 * * * but I'm not sure that cron allows n24 for the hourly divisor.

The combination of date and weekday can approximate the 4-week cycle.



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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: Unix - scheduling



U...think they slipped something into my Mountain 
Dew while I wasn't looking so that they could
log 
into production directly via SQL*Plus and make some manual changes...I must have 
still been
regaining my senses when I sent this...sorry 
:)

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AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
Unix - scheduling
Is a strick 14 day rule absolutely necessary, if not...a much 
more hassle free way would be to simply schedule the 
cronjob to run on the 1st and 15th of each month, i.e. 
# Min Hr Day Mon WkDay Command 0 0 
1,15 * * script 
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 0 */4 * * * your_command 
$ man 5 cronttab; 
 The time and date fields are: 

 
field allowed 
values  
- 
--  
minute 0-59  
hour 0-23 
 
day of month 1-31  
month 1-12 (or names, see 
below)  
day of week 0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names) 
 A field may be an asterisk 
(*), which always stands for ``first-last''. 
 Ranges of numbers are 
allowed. Ranges are two numbers separated with a hyphen. The specified range  is inclusive. For example, 
8-11 for an ``hours'' entry specifies execution at hours 
8, 9, 10 and 11. 
 Lists are 
allowed. A list is a set of 
numbers (or ranges) separated by 
commas. Examples:  ``1,2,5,9'', ``0-4,8-12''. 
: 
Question: how does "0 */4 * * *" cause something to run 
every 4 weeks? Unless your version has a different field 
order. It might work to try "* */628 * * *" but I'm not 
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The combination of date and weekday can approximate the 
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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Ron Thomas


0 */4 * * * your_command

The */4 must be linux.  This is not available on HP-UX 11.0.

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 anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you want to schedule 
a job to run
every four week.
 Is it possible to do that in unix cron job schedule.

Yes, it is very possible.

Run 'crontab -e' as apropeate user. Your $EDITOR will open.
Write as described in crontab(5) manual ('man 5 crontab'):

0 */4 * * * your_command

This will run your_command every four hours (first field which minutes,
second field in which hours)

You can also edit the /etc/crontab-file (if avaible on your system.) This
file has a different syntax (you specify the user who is going to run the
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Object in hot file

2002-07-02 Thread Guerra, Abraham J
Title: RE: Unix - scheduling



Hello Gurus,

Does 
anybody have a script to locate objects/segments within a file? I have a 
tablespace that spreads into several files, but there is one of this files that 
is hot. I would like to know which objects reside in this file. The 
Oracle version is HP 8.1.7-64.

All 
help will be welcome.

Thanks.

Abraham J. GuerraSenior Oracle 
DBAAmerican Family Insurance(608) 242-4100 x32026 




Re: Object in hot file

2002-07-02 Thread Jack van Zanen

try desc dba_tables  dba_indexes


   

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 Hello Gurus,

Does anybody have a script to locate objects/segments within a file?  I
have a tablespace that spreads into several files, but there is one of this
files that is hot.  I would like to know which objects reside in this file.
The Oracle version is HP 8.1.7-64.

All help will be welcome.

Thanks.

Abraham J. Guerra
Senior Oracle DBA
American Family Insurance
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Redo log

2002-07-02 Thread Nguyen, David M

I found couple redo logs in my Oracle8.0.5 database, as shown they are
switched every 5 minutes.  I'd like to have only two or three logs out there
and don't want them to be switched until every 4 hours.  Is there a way to
control it that way?  

Secondly, if redo log switchs every 5 minutes, does LogMiner have capability
to view transaction history from two days ago?  Please advise.


$ ls -l redo*  
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo01.log   
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo02.log   
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:15 redo03.log   
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo03_1.log 
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo03_2.log 
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:15 redo04.log   


Thanks,
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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Michael Cupp
Title: Message



He 
wanted every 4 weeks - 

  
  -Original Message-From: Richard Huntley 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 
  11:58 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Unix - scheduling
  Is a strick 14 day rule absolutely necessary, if not...a much 
  more hassle free way would be to simply schedule the 
  cronjob to run on the 1st and 15th of each month, i.e. 
  # Min Hr Day Mon WkDay Command 0 
  0 1,15 * * script 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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  -- Nils Höglund [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 03:28:20 
  -0800 
   0 */4 * * * your_command 
  $ man 5 cronttab; 
   The time and date fields are: 
  
   
  field allowed 
  values  
  - 
  --  
  minute 0-59  
  hour 0-23 
   
  day of month 1-31  
  month 1-12 (or names, 
  see below)  
  day of week 0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names) 
   A field may be an 
  asterisk (*), which always stands for ``first-last''. 
   Ranges of numbers 
  are allowed. Ranges are two numbers separated with a hyphen. The specified range  is inclusive. For example, 
  8-11 for an ``hours'' entry specifies execution at 
  hours 8, 9, 10 and 11. 
   Lists are 
  allowed. A list is a set of 
  numbers (or ranges) separated by 
  commas. Examples:  ``1,2,5,9'', ``0-4,8-12''. 
  : 
  Question: how does "0 */4 * * *" cause something to run 
  every 4 weeks? Unless your version has a different 
  field order. It might work to try "* */628 * * *" but 
  I'm not sure that cron allows n24 for the hourly 
  divisor. 
  The combination of date and weekday can approximate the 
  4-week cycle. 
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RE: Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

I'd agree with Ian, because (at-least) on AIX, pre 9013 versions had smon
leak, clob leak problems.

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The choice should be between 9.0.1.3 + patch 2121935 or 9.2.  The patch is
to fix a serious, serious security problem with ANSI-style  joins.If you
feel the need to go to 9i, I'd choose the latter.  I don't think 9.2 has
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RE: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread Cary Millsap

1. If you have bug 1210242, then using timed_statistics=true will have a
profound impact upon performance. Get a patch, and then go to 3.

2. If you use an HP-UX release older than release 10, then using
timed_statistics=true will have a profound impact upon performance.
Upgrade HP-UX, and then go to 3.

3. Otherwise, set timed_statistics=true at the instance level, and leave
it set that way forever. In your first hour of using timing data, you
will probably recover more system capacity than the timer mechanism will
consume in a year.


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Do you guys think making times statistic =true has any performance
impact .
Are there any other considerations ?

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  Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
  may be dynamic
  and
  not require a database bounce.

 True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
 (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
 counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't
recommend
 using the time values otherwise.

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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread alan . aschenbrenner


Aww, come on, crontab -e isn't that bad!  The most dangerous thing
about it is accidentally running crontab -r instead of -e.  Using crontab
-e is no worse than using a wildcard with the rm command,  i.e. 'rm a *'
instead of 'rm a*'.  One deletes all files that start with 'a', the other
deletes a file named 'a' plus everything else in your directory.  Like
anything else, just be careful when you're using crontab and you shouldn't
have any problems.  If you can't do things carefully, you probably won't
make it too long as a DBA anyway.
Although, if you are a vi novice and using it to edit your crontab,
then I would agree with Jared.  A few wrong keystrokes in command mode and
you can trash a file real quick

Just my $.02,

Alan

P.S.  I do recommend making a backup of your crontab occasionally
though





   

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om 

   

   

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Please don't use 'crontab -e', unless you are saving your
crontab files and using some form of version control on them.

'crontabe -e' is inherently dangerous, as it is too easy to remove
lines unintentionally, and then they are gone for good.

Jared

On Tuesday 02 July 2002 04:28, Nils Höglund wrote:
  anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you
want
  to schedule a job to run every four week. Is it possible to do that in
  unix cron job schedule.

 Yes, it is very possible.

 Run 'crontab -e' as apropeate user. Your $EDITOR will open.
 Write as described in crontab(5) manual ('man 5 crontab'):

 0 */4 * * * your_command

 This will run your_command every four hours (first field which minutes,
 second field in which hours)

 You can also edit the /etc/crontab-file (if avaible on your system.) This
 file has a different syntax (you specify the user who is going to run the
 command too.)
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RE: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Sigh.  There are way too many packages in Oracle.  Thanks Jared.  I have to
share this with a developer struggling to write some parsing functions.

I'll take back all the bad reviews I posted on bookpool.com about your
book...

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No,  I checked on my 8.1.7.3 database first, and it's there.

I don't have app server installed.  I have the source to 
the package anyway.  Don't know if it's wrapped now
or not, but I don't think so...

Nope, not wrapped:

$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/pubpat.sql
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/privpat.sql

Jared

On Monday 01 July 2002 13:48, Grabowy, Chris wrote:
 JS,

 Doesn't that owa_pattern package come from the PL/SQL Web Toolkit, which
 requires that you have the Oracle App Server licensed??

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 Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.

 Here's an example:

 declare
tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882
 dig2its';
 begin
dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
-- remove the digits
owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
-- remove the extra spaces
owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
 end;
 /

 Jared





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 Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?

 The string might look like this: 'abc123def432'
 and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.

 I'm using Oracle 8.


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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Michael Cupp
Title: Message



Possible could use at, and have the job re-schedule 
itself for 4 weeks when it first starts - just a thought

  
  -Original Message-From: Richard Huntley 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 
  11:58 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Unix - scheduling
  Is a strick 14 day rule absolutely necessary, if not...a much 
  more hassle free way would be to simply schedule the 
  cronjob to run on the 1st and 15th of each month, i.e. 
  # Min Hr Day Mon WkDay Command 0 
  0 1,15 * * script 
  -Original Message- From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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  -- Nils Höglund [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 03:28:20 
  -0800 
   0 */4 * * * your_command 
  $ man 5 cronttab; 
   The time and date fields are: 
  
   
  field allowed 
  values  
  - 
  --  
  minute 0-59  
  hour 0-23 
   
  day of month 1-31  
  month 1-12 (or names, 
  see below)  
  day of week 0-7 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names) 
   A field may be an 
  asterisk (*), which always stands for ``first-last''. 
   Ranges of numbers 
  are allowed. Ranges are two numbers separated with a hyphen. The specified range  is inclusive. For example, 
  8-11 for an ``hours'' entry specifies execution at 
  hours 8, 9, 10 and 11. 
   Lists are 
  allowed. A list is a set of 
  numbers (or ranges) separated by 
  commas. Examples:  ``1,2,5,9'', ``0-4,8-12''. 
  : 
  Question: how does "0 */4 * * *" cause something to run 
  every 4 weeks? Unless your version has a different 
  field order. It might work to try "* */628 * * *" but 
  I'm not sure that cron allows n24 for the hourly 
  divisor. 
  The combination of date and weekday can approximate the 
  4-week cycle. 
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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Sherman, Edward

Roland,

I'm assuming that every 4 weeks means every 28 days which means same day
of the
week (Every 4th Friday for example)

If this meets your requirements then you can try the suggestion at this
link:

http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,,0x1b397b8d1de3d5118ff40090279
cd0f9,00.html

Read A. Clay Stephenson's solution to this.
Click the little paper clip in the top right hand corner of his post.
You will need that attachment to run with your script.

Ed


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Hallo,

anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you want to
schedule a job to run every four week.
Is it possible to do that in unix cron job schedule.

Thanks in advance


Roland

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RE: Upgrade from 9.0.1.2

2002-07-02 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

Did Oracle back port the patch to fix the ANSI-style jonn bug to 9.0.1.2? This bug 
allows one to read any table in the database despite the permission set.

Ian MacGregor
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Hi,

We are currently testing our application on 9.0.1.2 and it looks stable except some 
bugs with function based indexes.
Is it advisable to move to 9.0.1.3 (as it is terminal release of 9.0) or 9.2 which is 
just released 2 months back (and may have some bugs)
OR 9.0.1.2 is stable enough and we can ship our product on this release. Any feedback 
on 9.0.1.2 is highly appreciated
Function based index bugs are not fixes in either of release.
Platform are sun 2.8 and WIN2K
We have to make decision this week to give QA enough time for testing

Thanks
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RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.

sarcasm
From now on I will just pick on Jared...
/sarcasm

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Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
 Rachel part of the on topic list???

 --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
  questions :),
 
  like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
  is
  on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
  updating
  first.
 
  joe
 
  Grabowy, Chris wrote:
  Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
  
  Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
 
  head.  Oh
 
  well...
  
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  well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
 
  walk
 
  out in the middle
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
  lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
  little sparse on details.
  
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
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  But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
  same
  time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
  get
  stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
 
  see
 
  equally as much were there.
  
  Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
  have to leave around 2:30 or so
  
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  But Rachel, you never came to any of my
  presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
  
  At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
  
  or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
  
  he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him
  
  :)
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
  schedule
  to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
  
  four
  
  the
  year
  before that.
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
  
  to
  
  weed out
  the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
  
  noticed
  
  a
  
  significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
  content.
  Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
  
  but
  
  the
  content has to be there.
  
  
  
  Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
  
  track
  
  and then
  complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
  concrete
  numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
  
  track
  
  alone
  and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
  
  a
  
  second
  time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
  
  content-organized
  
  IOUG.
  
  
  
  
  Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
  
  
  
  Thank You
  
  
  
  Stephen P. Karniotis
  
  Product Architect
  
  Compuware Corporation
  
  Direct:   (248) 865-4350
  
  Mobile:  (248) 408-2918

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RE: Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-02 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

They made changes to MetaLink over the weekend, I cannot search for my own
TARs because of the country code.

Regards,
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Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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Guess who did?

MetaLink V2 - Note 

  An error occured while trying to query the system.
  Please try again later
  [CODE : -12541 ] 

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!!

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RE: Upgrade from 9.0.1.2 - NOPE!

2002-07-02 Thread Connor McDonald

I'm pretty sure this has not been done...

NOBODY(!) should be on 9012 in production - unless
you're happy with zero security.  As well as the
reading-anything as Ian points out, with a little bit
of playing around its also possible to destroy any
data in the database (since a view is updatable if it
is formed correctly)

Can't break it, can't break in Hmm :-)

hth
Connor

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 We are currently testing our application on 9.0.1.2
 and it looks stable except some bugs with function
 based indexes.
 Is it advisable to move to 9.0.1.3 (as it is
 terminal release of 9.0) or 9.2 which is just
 released 2 months back (and may have some bugs)
 OR 9.0.1.2 is stable enough and we can ship our
 product on this release. Any feedback on 9.0.1.2 is
 highly appreciated
 Function based index bugs are not fixes in either of
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 Platform are sun 2.8 and WIN2K
 We have to make decision this week to give QA enough
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RE: Rule Based Hint

2002-07-02 Thread kkennedy

Sometimes a full table scan is better than an index lookup.  Sometimes not.
Kevin Kennedy
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My queries are running exceptionally good with a rule based optimizer and
the cost based is doing a full table
scan for the same. Is it good idea to put the RULE hint..? or is there
anything I am missing. All my tables are properly analyzed. I thought I
should avoid RULE hint as much as possible.
any suggestions/comments on this pls..

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Need some advice

2002-07-02 Thread dgoulet

Folks,

Since good old MetaSh t is once again having problems, as well as the help
line I need to know if any of you have run into the following before:

PENGUIN:8.1:SYS alter package utl_tcp compile body;
alter package utl_tcp compile body
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06544: PL/SQL: internal error, arguments: [56319], [], [], [], [], [], [],
[]
ORA-06553: PLS-801: internal error [56319]

We moved this database from one server to a replacement.  Same versions of
Oracle and the OS.  But now these errors are showing up in several places. 
Haven't released this yet to the assembly line folks, mainly because I don't
have to they took the week off.  Any ideas?  I'm thinking I need to re-run
catalog  catproc.

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RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

You just can't forget about that dbms_output/trigger thing, can you?   ;)

Jared





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My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has 
offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.

sarcasm
From now on I will just pick on Jared...
/sarcasm

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Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
 Rachel part of the on topic list???

 --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
  questions :),
 
  like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
  is
  on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
  updating
  first.
 
  joe
 
  Grabowy, Chris wrote:
  Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
  
  Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
 
  head.  Oh
 
  well...
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
 
  walk
 
  out in the middle
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
  lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
  little sparse on details.
  
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
  same
  time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
  get
  stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
 
  see
 
  equally as much were there.
  
  Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
  have to leave around 2:30 or so
  
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  But Rachel, you never came to any of my
  presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
  
  At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
  
  or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
  
  he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him
  
  :)
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
  schedule
  to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
  
  four
  
  the
  year
  before that.
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
  
  to
  
  weed out
  the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
  
  noticed
  
  a
  
  significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
  content.
  Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
  
  but
  
  the
  content has to be there.
  
  
  
  Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
  
  track
  
  and then
  complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
  concrete
  numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
  
  track
  
  alone
  and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
  
  a
  
  second
  time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
  
  content-organized
  
  IOUG.
  
  
  
  
  Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
  
  
  
  Thank You
  
  
  
  Stephen P. Karniotis
  
  Product Architect
  
  Compuware Corporation
  
  Direct:   (248) 865-4350
  
  

Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

 If you can't do things carefully, you probably won't
 make it too long as a DBA anyway.

Not using 'crontab -e' *is* being careful.  :)

Jared





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Aww, come on, crontab -e isn't that bad!  The most dangerous thing
about it is accidentally running crontab -r instead of -e.  Using crontab
-e is no worse than using a wildcard with the rm command,  i.e. 'rm a *'
instead of 'rm a*'.  One deletes all files that start with 'a', the other
deletes a file named 'a' plus everything else in your directory.  Like
anything else, just be careful when you're using crontab and you shouldn't
have any problems.  If you can't do things carefully, you probably won't
make it too long as a DBA anyway.
Although, if you are a vi novice and using it to edit your crontab,
then I would agree with Jared.  A few wrong keystrokes in command mode and
you can trash a file real quick

Just my $.02,

Alan

P.S.  I do recommend making a backup of your crontab occasionally
though





  
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Please don't use 'crontab -e', unless you are saving your
crontab files and using some form of version control on them.

'crontabe -e' is inherently dangerous, as it is too easy to remove
lines unintentionally, and then they are gone for good.

Jared

On Tuesday 02 July 2002 04:28, Nils Höglund wrote:
  anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you
want
  to schedule a job to run every four week. Is it possible to do that in
  unix cron job schedule.

 Yes, it is very possible.

 Run 'crontab -e' as apropeate user. Your $EDITOR will open.
 Write as described in crontab(5) manual ('man 5 crontab'):

 0 */4 * * * your_command

 This will run your_command every four hours (first field which minutes,
 second field in which hours)

 You can also edit the /etc/crontab-file (if avaible on your system.) 
This
 file has a different syntax (you specify the user who is going to run 
the
 command too.)
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RE: Remove numbers from string

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

Really?  I didn't realize you were on the advance copy list.  :)

Jared





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Sigh.  There are way too many packages in Oracle.  Thanks Jared.  I have 
to
share this with a developer struggling to write some parsing functions.

I'll take back all the bad reviews I posted on bookpool.com about your
book...

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No,  I checked on my 8.1.7.3 database first, and it's there.

I don't have app server installed.  I have the source to 
the package anyway.  Don't know if it's wrapped now
or not, but I don't think so...

Nope, not wrapped:

$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/pubpat.sql
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/privpat.sql

Jared

On Monday 01 July 2002 13:48, Grabowy, Chris wrote:
 JS,

 Doesn't that owa_pattern package come from the PL/SQL Web Toolkit, which
 requires that you have the Oracle App Server licensed??

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 Yes, use regular expressions via the owa_pattern package.

 Here's an example:

 declare
tstr varchar2(100) := 'this c34ontains s0239everal 2340 numeric 882
 dig2its';
 begin
dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
-- remove the digits
owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\d', '', 'g');
dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
-- remove the extra spaces
owa_pattern.change( tstr, '\s+', ' ', 'g');
dbms_output.put_line( tstr);
 end;
 /

 Jared





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 Is there any way to remove all numbers from a string?

 The string might look like this: 'abc123def432'
 and I wan't it to look like this: 'abcdef'.

 I'm using Oracle 8.


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LogMiner errors

2002-07-02 Thread Nguyen, David M

I tried to run LogMiner to view transactions on Oracle8.0 using LogMiner and
received following errors. Can someone please help me to fix errors.  This
is HIGH priority that I am working to try to find out who messed up our
database per my Manager.

SQL begin
  2  sys.dbms_logmnr.start_logmnr(
  3  DictFileName = '/export/home/oracle/LogMiner/dictionary.ora',
  4  StartTime = to_date('01-Jul-2002 08:00:00AM','DD-MON-
HH:MI:SSAM'),
  5  EndTime = to_date('02-Jul-2002 12:00:00AM','DD-MON- HH:MI:SSAM'));
  6  end;
  7  /
begin
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01280: Fatal LogMiner Error.
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_LOGMNR, line 42
ORA-06512: at line 2


Thanks,
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RE: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

And that package would be... ?

Jared






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John:

There is an undocumented package thru which you can reset few of the
timings. (It resets the timing info in X$KCFIO and the MAX_WAIT_TIME
(!) in the V$SESSION/SYSTEM event views.


--- John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics 
  may be dynamic
  and
  not require a database bounce.
 
 True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
 (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
 counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't
 recommend
 using the time values otherwise.
 

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Re: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread Charlie Mengler



SQL desc dbms_system
PROCEDURE DIST_TXN_SYNC
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 INST_NUM   NUMBER  IN
PROCEDURE KCFRMS
PROCEDURE KSDDDT
PROCEDURE KSDFLS
PROCEDURE KSDIND
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 LVLBINARY_INTEGER  IN
PROCEDURE KSDWRT
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 DEST   BINARY_INTEGER  IN
 TSTVARCHAR2IN
PROCEDURE READ_EV
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 IEVBINARY_INTEGER  IN
 OEVBINARY_INTEGER  OUT
PROCEDURE SET_BOOL_PARAM_IN_SESSION
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 SIDNUMBER  IN
 SERIAL#NUMBER  IN
 PARNAM VARCHAR2IN
 BVAL   BOOLEAN IN
PROCEDURE SET_EV
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 SI BINARY_INTEGER  IN
 SE BINARY_INTEGER  IN
 EV BINARY_INTEGER  IN
 LE BINARY_INTEGER  IN
 NM VARCHAR2IN
PROCEDURE SET_INT_PARAM_IN_SESSION
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 SIDNUMBER  IN
 SERIAL#NUMBER  IN
 PARNAM VARCHAR2IN
 INTVAL BINARY_INTEGER  IN
PROCEDURE SET_SQL_TRACE_IN_SESSION
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 SIDNUMBER  IN
 SERIAL#NUMBER  IN
 SQL_TRACE  BOOLEAN IN
PROCEDURE WAIT_FOR_EVENT
 Argument Name  TypeIn/Out Default?
 -- --- -- 
 EVENT  VARCHAR2IN
 EXTENDED_IDBINARY_INTEGER  IN
 TIMEOUTBINARY_INTEGER  IN

SQL 

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 And that package would be... ?
 
 Jared
 
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 There is an undocumented package thru which you can reset few of the
 timings. (It resets the timing info in X$KCFIO and the MAX_WAIT_TIME
 (!) in the V$SESSION/SYSTEM event views.
 
 --- John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
   may be dynamic
   and
   not require a database bounce.
 
  True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
  (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
  counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't
  recommend
  using the time values otherwise.
 
 
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RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

My note must have been missing the smiley

but you guys WERE picking on me :)  (MOO make him stop!
G)
--- Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has
 offended
 her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that
 tease
 and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would
 never
 intentionally mean to offend her.
 
 I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
 constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never
 teased
 that have to worry...
 
 If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
 publicly.
 
 sarcasm
 From now on I will just pick on Jared...
 /sarcasm
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.
 
 Best not do it at all.
 
 Jared
 
 On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
  YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
  Rachel part of the on topic list???
 
  --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks
 bizarre
   questions :),
  
   like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and
 one
   is
   on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
   updating
   first.
  
   joe
  
   Grabowy, Chris wrote:
   Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
   
   Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking
 her
  
   head.  Oh
  
   well...
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have
 to
  
   walk
  
   out in the middle
   
   
   --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   wrote:
   Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
   lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
   little sparse on details.
   
   
   
   
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   We have enough youth.
   How about a fountain of intelligence?
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either
 the
   same
   time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to
 yours, I
   get
   stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted
 to
  
   see
  
   equally as much were there.
   
   Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at
 5, I
   have to leave around 2:30 or so
   
   
   
   --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   wrote:
   But Rachel, you never came to any of my
   presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
   
   At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
   
   
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   We have enough youth.
   How about a fountain of intelligence?
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
   
   or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
   
   he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship
 him
   
   :)
   
   --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   wrote:
   Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was
 orginally
   schedule
   to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I
 gave
   
   four
   
   the
   year
   before that.
   
   
   
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   We have enough youth.
   How about a fountain of intelligence?
   
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   
   OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our
 best
   
   to
   
   weed out
   the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
   
   noticed
   
   a
   
   significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more
 technical
   content.
   Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a
 presentation,
   
   but
   
   the
   content has to be there.
   
   
   
   Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
   
   track
   
   and then
   complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
   concrete
 
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Re: SQL*Plus/UTL_FILE vs. 3'rd Party Data Extraction

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

Perl is very fast, very flexible, and quite inexpensive. :)

See my post earlier today that includes the TOC from
Perl for Oracle DBA's

Jared





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I have some people who are asking about 3'rd party data extraction tools 
to
pull data from Oracle into text files for loading a data warehouse.  I am
not sure what the size of the project is but I think it is pretty big. The
DW is Terradata.  Anyway, they are stating Oracle tools are too slow. They
do not define slow so it is hard to argue with them.  My opinion is that 
it
is very dependent on hardware (CPU/Disk) in most cases.

What are your opinions on the matter, do you need 3'rd party?  What tools
are you using (I am aware of Informatica and such but I think they are
looking for something a little cheaper)?

Thanks,
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RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again - OT

2002-07-02 Thread Grabowy, Chris

ok, ok...were even.

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You just can't forget about that dbms_output/trigger thing, can you?   ;)

Jared





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My sincere and humble apologies to Rachel, if my earlier email has 
offended
her.  That was not the intention.  I believe myself and others that tease
and pick on Rachel, do it out of respect and love for her, and would never
intentionally mean to offend her.

I do not know about other locations and cultures, but in my office we
constantly pick and tease on each other.  It is those who are never teased
that have to worry...

If I offend you then please do not hesitate to email me privately or
publicly.

sarcasm
From now on I will just pick on Jared...
/sarcasm

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:03 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Personal attacks certainly don't belong here.

Best not do it at all.

Jared

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 19:28, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 YO! JARED! has this gotten off-topic yet? since when is picking on
 Rachel part of the on topic list???

 --- Joe Testa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris, feel blessed, she stays during all of mine and asks bizarre
  questions :),
 
  like:  If 2 control files are being updated at the same time and one
  is
  on raid-5 and the other on raid 0+1, which one will be finished
  updating
  first.
 
  joe
 
  Grabowy, Chris wrote:
  Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
  
  Your lucky.  She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her
 
  head.  Oh
 
  well...
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to
 
  walk
 
  out in the middle
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
  lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
  little sparse on details.
  
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  But Mtt... you were always scheduled at either the
  same
  time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
  get
  stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to
 
  see
 
  equally as much were there.
  
  Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
  have to leave around 2:30 or so
  
  
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  But Rachel, you never came to any of my
  presentations!  (in my best whiney voice)
  
  At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
  
  or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
  
  he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him
  
  :)
  
  --- Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  wrote:
  Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
  schedule
  to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
  
  four
  
  the
  year
  before that.
  
  
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We have enough youth.
  How about a fountain of intelligence?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
  
  to
  
  weed out
  the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
  
  noticed
  
  a
  
  significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
  content.
  Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
  
  but
  
  the
  content has to be there.
  
  
  
  Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
  
  track
  
  and then
  complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
  concrete
  numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
  
  track
  
  alone
  and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
  
  a
  
  second
  time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
  
  content-organized
  
  IOUG.
  
  
  
  
  Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
  
  
  
  Thank You
  
  
  
  

Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread lembark



-- Ron Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 09:03:26 -0800

 
 0 */4 * * * your_command
 
 The */4 must be linux.  This is not available on HP-UX 11.0.

Introduced by Paul Vixie into vixiecron, subsequently adopted
by a number of cron implementations. HP's is, unfortunately,
not one of them. Sun's might, AIX doesn't.

The Schedule::Cron module does support this notation, along
with adding any other extenders you like since you can have
your own dispatcher.

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9.2 and Microsoft ODBC driver issues

2002-07-02 Thread Harvinder Singh

Hi,

We are testing our application on 9.2 and getting errors using Microsoft ODBC Driver.
we are having MDAC 2.7 installed on the machine.
Is anyone also encountered some errors using 9.2 with Microsoft odbc driver and how u 
reslove the issues??

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RE: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra


Wild guess dbms_system.KCFRMS ?? If it is true, thanks to Kirti ...

Raj
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And that package would be... ?

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Re: OPS and redos

2002-07-02 Thread Scott

Fawzia, What are you querying to get the SCN
information. I would also be curious where you read
about the recovery issues in OPS environment? Oracle
maintains what is called a snapshot SCN and global
SCN. The snapshot SCN is usually maintained in the SGA
and the global SCN is maintained by the DLM. All
transactions committed in an OPS environment use the
global SCN and that SCN is always incrementing even in
if both instances are idle. In an OPS environment it
is possible for multiple transactions on different
nodes to commit with the same SCN but each transaction
will commit with an SCN that is greater whether these
transactions are on the same node or different nodes.
The bottom line is that Oracle basically treats SCN's
with committed transactions the same whether it is a
single instance or OPS. 

The snapshot SCN is used for queries and the snapshot
SCN could be older than current or global SCN. This
SCN only effects queries not DML. The only issue here
is using this snapshot SCN could give read consistency
on transactions that where committed on the on the
other node.

an example

Time 10:00:00 - Node2 issues DML and commits updates
deptno from 10 to 11 committed with current SCN 1000,
current SCN is now incremented to 1001

Time 10:00:01 - Node1 issues a select on deptno and
sees 10 (should see 11 because the transaction was
commmited) because the snapshot SCN is 998 and the
transaction was committed with newer SCN we must
perform a read consistent read.

PMON is the process that synchs current or global SCN
with the snapshot SCN and PMON usually does this every
3 seconds

so if you issue the query
Time 10:00:05 (5 seconds after the commit) - Node1
issues the select on deptno and now sees 11. This is
because PMON sync-ed up the snapshot SCN with the
current or global SCN and now my SCN for my query is
newer than the SCN the transaction you committed with
so there is no need to perform a CR you can just use
the current version.

The above issue is really only a problem is a system
if you have a lot of DML on 1 node and a lot of
selects on the other node. It this is an issue you can
set MAX_COMMIT_PROPAGATION_DELAY=0 and this will force
the queries to always use the current or global SCN
and now you should see the committed data as soon as
it is committed because both the DML and queries are
use the current or global SCN.

I find odd that you have SCN of 500 and 2000. The way
Oracle maintains SCN's in an OPS environment shouldn't
allow for this large of a gap in SCN's. This looks
more like log sequence numbers not SCN's. If these are
indeed log sequence then this gap is not an issue.
Recovery is based more on SCN's not log sequence
numbers.

If the gap in the log sequence gets to big Oracle will
force the idle node to do log switches and if you are
archiving you will see archive logs 1 OS block in
size. When Oracle does this you should a KK #34;Redo
log Kick#34; lock being allocated.

Hope this helps,

Scott

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gt; 
gt; Hi gurus,
gt; 
gt; I have a query..Basically we have an OPS set up
here
gt; (8.0.6) and I have
gt; noticed that the scn on node A is 500 and the scn
on
gt; node B is 2000. I am
gt; concerned about this w.r.t recovery- surely this
gt; would be an issue ??I
gt; logged a call with oracle and they said it wasnt
an
gt; issue, but then I read
gt; in a document that it WAS an issue and could
gt; potentially lose everything
gt; between 500 abd 2000..and that the workaround
would
gt; be to add more logs to A
gt; or to modify the check point interval
gt; 
gt; Please can you advise??
gt; 
gt; Rgds
gt; 
gt; Fawzia
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RE: Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-02 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

Could be a Euro conversion problem.  I do remember that Oracle had not
completed much of this work in time.

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For those of you in the Oracle Partner program, here's what looks like
another
little bug to add to the 'Unbreakable' list...

Log into the Oracle partner network at
http://oraclepartnernetwork.oracle.com/
and look for the Product Query Tool under 'Pricing' - It gives the cost of
the
various Oracle options in various currencies.

Choose Enterprise Edition, try to get a price in Italy and it completly
fails to
cope with the currency conversion, resulting in a price of 0. for a
two-year
user license, with the same for support and upgrade.  I can only assume that
nobody in Italy is an Oracle Partner, or they're keeping very quiet about
getting the Database for free...

Somebody tell me this stuff doesn't run on Oracle software.

Simon Anderson


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RE: Need some advice

2002-07-02 Thread Root, Melanie

I recently moved from one server to another and found that many of the
system object where invalid.  I reran catalog.sql and catproc.sql and this
corrected the problems for me...  give that a try.

Melanie

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Folks,

Since good old MetaSh t is once again having problems, as well as the
help
line I need to know if any of you have run into the following before:

PENGUIN:8.1:SYS alter package utl_tcp compile body;
alter package utl_tcp compile body
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06544: PL/SQL: internal error, arguments: [56319], [], [], [], [], [],
[],
[]
ORA-06553: PLS-801: internal error [56319]

We moved this database from one server to a replacement.  Same versions of
Oracle and the OS.  But now these errors are showing up in several places. 
Haven't released this yet to the assembly line folks, mainly because I don't
have to they took the week off.  Any ideas?  I'm thinking I need to re-run
catalog  catproc.

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Re: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread Tim Gorman

DBMS_SYSTEM

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 And that package would be... ?

 Jared






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 John:

 There is an undocumented package thru which you can reset few of the
 timings. (It resets the timing info in X$KCFIO and the MAX_WAIT_TIME
 (!) in the V$SESSION/SYSTEM event views.


 --- John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Depending on the version of the database, timed_statistics
   may be dynamic
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   not require a database bounce.
 
  True - but the timing values are meaningless unless the counters
  (TOTAL_WAITS and TOTAL_TIMEOUTS) are reset. Only a bounce  resets the
  counters and switches on timing at the same time I wouldn't
  recommend
  using the time values otherwise.
 

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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread lembark



-- Hand, Michael T [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 08:13:32 -0800

 Roland,
 crontab alone will not meet your needs.  Hint: check the date command and
 MOD type fuctionality in a shell script.

The at command will normally take number of days from now
as the when to run argument. Simply have the job re-submit
itself and output an error message if at returns non-zero.
This will give you one-minute resolution on the start times
with arbitrary re-run intervals as required for you program
(in this case, 14 or 28 days).

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RE: Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-02 Thread Jesse, Rich

Your country code, my country code.  I guess we're all One Big Happy World
under Oracle, because I can't work on any of my TARs, either.  (Don't even
axe why *I* have to work on them...)

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RE: Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-02 Thread Michael Cupp

I would say it is unbreakable.  Can't break what's already broke.

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In other words, it is unbreakable.  Can't get in... Can't break in...

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RE: Oracle 9i, can't break it?

2002-07-02 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

In other words, it is unbreakable.  Can't get in... Can't break in...

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RE: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread John Kanagaraj

 Wild guess dbms_system.KCFRMS ?? If it is true, thanks to Kirti ...

No luck using this one on 8.1.6/8.1.7/9.0.1... Any gotchas?

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RE: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread STEVE OLLIG

not available on Sun (vers 5.8) - just tried it.  nor Digital UNIX.

cool though ;-)

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-- Ron Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/02/02 09:03:26 -0800

 
 0 */4 * * * your_command
 
 The */4 must be linux.  This is not available on HP-UX 11.0.

Introduced by Paul Vixie into vixiecron, subsequently adopted
by a number of cron implementations. HP's is, unfortunately,
not one of them. Sun's might, AIX doesn't.

The Schedule::Cron module does support this notation, along
with adding any other extenders you like since you can have
your own dispatcher.

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HTTP Listener configuration assistant

2002-07-02 Thread Jonathan Gennick

I'm trying to recover from an install that bombed. The final step in
the install, and the only step that I still need to perform, was to
execute a configuration assistant for Oracle9i's built-in HTTP
listener. For the life of me, I can't figure out the executable name
to invoke the HTTP configuration assistant. Can anyone enlighten me?

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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread alan . aschenbrenner


Jared,

Point taken.  So I guess I like to live on the edge a little...  :)
I've been using crontab -e for years without problems though.  knock on
wood.

Alan





   

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Not using 'crontab -e' *is* being careful.  :)

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Aww, come on, crontab -e isn't that bad!  The most dangerous thing
about it is accidentally running crontab -r instead of -e.  Using crontab
-e is no worse than using a wildcard with the rm command,  i.e. 'rm a *'
instead of 'rm a*'.  One deletes all files that start with 'a', the other
deletes a file named 'a' plus everything else in your directory.  Like
anything else, just be careful when you're using crontab and you shouldn't
have any problems.  If you can't do things carefully, you probably won't
make it too long as a DBA anyway.
Although, if you are a vi novice and using it to edit your crontab,
then I would agree with Jared.  A few wrong keystrokes in command mode and
you can trash a file real quick

Just my $.02,

Alan

P.S.  I do recommend making a backup of your crontab occasionally
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Please don't use 'crontab -e', unless you are saving your
crontab files and using some form of version control on them.

'crontabe -e' is inherently dangerous, as it is too easy to remove
lines unintentionally, and then they are gone for good.

Jared

On Tuesday 02 July 2002 04:28, Nils Höglund wrote:
  anyone who has a good example on how to write in the crontab if you
want
  to schedule a job to run every four week. Is it possible to do that in
  unix cron job schedule.

 Yes, it is very possible.

 Run 'crontab -e' as apropeate user. Your $EDITOR will open.
 Write as described in crontab(5) manual ('man 5 crontab'):

 0 */4 * * * your_command

 This will run your_command every four hours (first field which minutes,
 second field in which hours)

 You can also edit the /etc/crontab-file (if avaible on your system.)
This
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RE: system event waits

2002-07-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Here is the original reply ...

 From: Deshpande, Kirti 
 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:35:36 -0500
 Subject: RE: DBMS_SYSTEM.KSDWRT question

Addition: 

DBMS_SYSTEM.KCFRMS - resets counters displayed by MAX_WAIT in
V$SESSION_EVENT, and MAXIORTM, MAXIOWTM in V$FILESTAT views. 

- Kirit

I do not know the version dependency.
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 Wild guess dbms_system.KCFRMS ?? If it is true, thanks to Kirti ...

No luck using this one on 8.1.6/8.1.7/9.0.1... Any gotchas?

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RE: Unidentified sessions brought us to maximum processes - more

2002-07-02 Thread Miller, Jay

I'm on 8.1.6.2, Solaris 2.6.

All the unidentified sessions were active but had no SQL associated with
them.

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We just had a problem on our datawarehouse where we hit the maximum number
of processes (had never happened before).  When I checked in Enterprise
Manager and v$sessions I saw dozens of sessions with no username or
osusername attached.

I was able to resolve the issue with a shutdown abort and restart (after
spending 15 minutes to get the requisite approvals).  

There were no errors in the alert log and no trace files.  Nothing odd on
the Unix side either.

I'll be keeping my eye out for a recurrence and logging a TAR with Oracle
but has anyone seen this sort of thing happen before?

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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Nils Höglund


 The */4 must be linux.  This is not available on HP-UX 11.0.

It works on BSD-systems too.


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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Nils Höglund


  The */4 must be linux.  This is not available on HP-UX 11.0.
 
 Introduced by Paul Vixie into vixiecron, subsequently adopted
 by a number of cron implementations. HP's is, unfortunately,
 not one of them. Sun's might, AIX doesn't.

It does not work on Solaris 8.


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Accessing views across a db link

2002-07-02 Thread Martin, Alan
Title: Accessing views across a db link





Accessing a view across a db link takes a while (fetch phase) when a *local* select statement uses a where clause (e.g. select * from view_name@remotedb where columnA = '...';). Does anyone know a way (other than a snapshot or materialized view of the remote data on the local db) to force the result set of data (due to the where clause) to be resolved on the remote side?

Thanx,


Alan Martin
Defense Logistics Information Service
Battle Creek, Michigan





Re: Should we upgrade from 9.0.1.2 to 9.2?

2002-07-02 Thread Michael Sale

Sigh, There are many answers to this question related
to the environment you will be deploying into. It
sounds like you are actually maintaining many
databases. Are all of them really 24x7 (i.e. less than
a minute of downtime per year) or can you schedule
maintenance in the future that will not affect
revenues?

Sticking with 9.0.x means having to jump through more
hoops in the end and having to live with any issues
you have that you cannot address. 9.2 is really more
like 9.0.2 with some features bolted on (closer to
8.0.5 in my opinion). 

You'll have a MUCH easier time getting issues
addressed with 9.2 over the long haul ( 8 months).
But if you are in a true 24x7 shop, and you have an
extensive, exhaustive, thorough QA/UAT cycles with
realistic loads, and you are willing to live on an
unsupportable system with all that you have running
now, then you may want to stick with wherever your
testing has put you.

In summary, a simplistic view to your situation has
you classed into one of two conditions:
1. You do have the ability to patch the
OS/Database/Application, but that is very limited 
AND
Your test/QA/UAT cycle will be able to complete with
the 9.2 db in place:
   * Go to 9.2
2. You do NOT have the ability to do anything but put
on essential security patches (e.g. less than 60
seconds of downtime in a year)
OR 
You do not have time to go through a test/QA/UAT cycle
with 9.2 in place before you go live:
   * Stick with 9.0.1

I would do all I could to go with 9.2, but some
situations simply don't allow for it. 


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 We have a couple of new applications in development
 that are moving to QA.
 These databases are currently running 9.0.1.2 on Sun
 Solaris 2.6.   We've
 been pretty happy with this version to this point
 but are at a pivotal spot
 in our product development cycle where we have a
 narrow window in which we
 could upgrade to 9.2 before we finish our QA cycle
 and move the
 application to production.We will be moving to
 production in the
 September timeframe.
 
 I know that 9.2 hasn't been out that long so I'm not
 sure how many people
 are using it.   For those that are using it, what
 has your experience been?
 Is it very buggy?   Any major problems?
 
 We have an OLTP database, a smallish datawarehouse
 that uses partitioning,
 and some datamarts that also use partitioning.   We
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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread Nils Höglund


 He wanted every 4 weeks - 

Whoops! I miss-read.

Thanks for the correction!

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RE: Redo log

2002-07-02 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

David,
Based on the ls output it seems you may have 4 groups with 1 member in groups 1,2  4 
but 3 members in group 3.
Do a select * from v$log; and see how the logs are really setup.

I would suggest you want to have the same number of members in each group.

If you want them to switch less often either (a) produce less redo (use logminer to 
analyse and maybe updates / deletes etc are happening that don't need to) or (b) use 
bigger logfiles.
This assumes they're switching because they're full.
How big are the archive logs that are produced - are they all around the same size or 
are some very small?

As for LogMiner - if you're in archive log mode and you've backed up / got a copy of 
the archive logs from 2 days ago then yes LogMiner will be able to analyse them.

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2002 2:43

I found couple redo logs in my Oracle8.0.5 database, as shown they are
switched every 5 minutes.  I'd like to have only two or three logs out there
and don't want them to be switched until every 4 hours.  Is there a way to
control it that way?  

Secondly, if redo log switchs every 5 minutes, does LogMiner have capability
to view transaction history from two days ago?  Please advise.


$ ls -l redo*  
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo01.log   
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo02.log   
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:15 redo03.log   
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo03_1.log 
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:20 redo03_2.log 
-rw-r-   1 oracle   dba   512512 Jul  2 11:15 redo04.log   


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Re:RE: Need some advice

2002-07-02 Thread dgoulet

Raj,

Thanks for the help, but in this case I need to first wash a little egg off
of my face.  The problem here was at least was easily recoverable.  What had
happen was we moved a database instance from one machine to another.  It's
cheaper to run two instances on one box that pay Oracle for 2 boxes, especially
when neither is breaking a sweat.  OK, not a problem, while one is at it might
as well upgrade the original instance from 8.0.5.2.1 to 8.1.7 while we're at it,
right?  Sure, but make sure you read the CD's first.  What I did was install
Oracle 8.1.7 32bit instead of 8.1.7 64bit.  Damn I hate doing things twice.

Dick Goulet
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Re: Accessing views across a db link

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

Alan,

This query should be resolved at the remote end.  I forget which
version of Oracle was the first to know enough to do that.

Which version are you on?

Have you traced the SQL?

Jared





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Accessing a view across a db link takes a while (fetch phase) when a 
*local* select statement uses a where clause (e.g. select * from 
view_name@remotedb where columnA = '...';). Does anyone know a way (other 
than a snapshot or materialized view of the remote data on the local db) 
to force the result set of data (due to the where clause) to be resolved 
on the remote side?
Thanx, 
Alan Martin 
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Re: Unix - scheduling

2002-07-02 Thread lembark


 
 It does not work on Solaris 8.

SunOS (a.k.a. BSD) used vixiecron; they dumped it when
Solaris went SVR4. You can still find workable copies
of Paul's original work (pretty ancient by now). 

Alternative it to use perl with Schedule::Cron to process
the lines. It understands */X notation and passes the entire
line to whatever dispatcher you choose -- which can interpret
the rest of your cron line as whatever it likes.

For example:

* */24 * * * */28 /path/to/code

Would check for the 28th day ever 24 hours :-)

Probably the best bet for something like this is at, however,
since it remembers the date + time that the event was 
scheduled for. This allows re-starting cron any number of
times w/o resetting the start date used by at.

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Oracle names problems on Win2k with Pentium IV

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

Fellow listers,


After upgrading to the latest greatest Pentium 4 desktop
( 2.3 GHZ, 512 Meg of Ram, 80 Gig disk, Yeehah! )
and dealing with the JIT bugs, I find that Oracle names no
longer works properly.

The folllowing screen dump explains it all. Start names, everything
looks hunky dory, exit namesctl, start namesctl again, and it's no
longer possible to connect to the names server.

Several threads on MetaLink detail the identical problem on Win2k,
but none of them provide a solution.

Vitals:

Oracle 8.1.7.3 
Windows 2000
Pentium 4, 2.3 GHZ
512 Meg Ram.

Interestingly enough, some have encountered this on Linux, but names
on linux is working just fine for me on a Dell box

Vitals on the Dell:

Dual Pentium 1.3 GHZ
2 Gig Ram
Lots o' disk.

Any ideas?

TIA 

Jared


C:\
C:\namesctl

Oracle Names Control for 32-bit Windows: Version 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on 
02-JUL-2002 17:33:32

(c) Copyright 1997 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

NNL-00018: warning: could not contact default name server
Welcome to NAMESCTL, type help for information.

NAMESCTL start ns_js001292
Starting names.exe...server successfully started

Currently managing name server ns_js001292
Version banner is Oracle Names for 32-bit Windows: Version 8.1.7.2.0 - 
Production

Server name:  ns_js001292
Server has been running for:  2.04 seconds
Request processing enabled:   yes
Request forwarding enabled:   yes
Requests received:0
Requests forwarded:   0
Foreign data items cached:0
Region data next checked for reload in:   not set
Region data reload check failures:0
Cache next checkpointed in:   59 minutes 57.93 seconds
Cache checkpoint interval:1 hour
Cache checkpoint file name: C:\oracle\ora81\network\names\ckpcch.ora
Statistic counters next reset in: not set
Statistic counter reset interval: not set
Statistic counters next logged in:not set
Statistic counter logging interval:   not set
Trace level:  6
Trace file name: C:\oracle\ora81\network\trace\names_536.trc
Log file name: C:\oracle\ora81\network\log\names.log
System parameter file name: C:\oracle\ora81\network\admin\names.ora
Command-line parameter file name: 
Administrative region name:   
Administrative region description:
ApplTable Index:  0
Contact   
Operational Status0
Save Config on Stop   no
NAMESCTL exit
NL-00851: NAMESCTL finished

C:\namesctl

Oracle Names Control for 32-bit Windows: Version 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on 
02-JUL-2002 17:33:50

(c) Copyright 1997 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

NNL-00018: warning: could not contact default name server
Welcome to NAMESCTL, type help for information.

NAMESCTL set server ns_js001292
NNL-00010: error getting address for server ns_js001292
 NNC-00406: name  does not exist
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RE: Accessing views across a db link

2002-07-02 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: Accessing views across a db link



Try 
this:

select 
--+ DRIVING_SITE(rv) 
 *
from 
view_name@remotedb rv
where 
columnA = '...';

-
Regards,

Waleed

  -Original Message-From: Martin, Alan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 5:28 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Accessing views across a db link
  Accessing a view across a db link takes a while 
  (fetch phase) when a *local* select statement uses a "where" clause (e.g. 
  select * from view_name@remotedb where columnA = '...';). Does anyone know a 
  way (other than a snapshot or materialized view of the remote data on the 
  local db) to force the result set of data (due to the "where" clause) to be 
  resolved on the remote side?
  Thanx, 
  Alan Martin 
  Defense Logistics Information 
  Service Battle Creek, 
  Michigan