Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6)

2006-05-24 Thread Michael Mathews 

As a competing suggestion, how about...
   http://pugs.kwiki.org/?perl6

I'm not really set on any option as long as it works and makes sense
to everyone, including those outside this list. I probably missed it,
but could you give the stated purpose for the wiki again, as I think a
reminder (for me at least) would help.

--michael


On 24/05/06, Michael Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Conrad,

It's only an issue of coordination and findability. But that question
depends on what the intended purpose of the wiki would be. For example
there is nothing stopping anyone (including members of this list) from
creating and populating pages on www.wikipedia.org about Perl6 and
this user group. Then those pages would be available to the wikipedia
search engine. <--- Insert any other popular wiki there.

If, however, it is meant for mailing-list specific issues then only we
need to be able to easily find and search it, so there is no issue.
And of course with the ominipresence of google, finding and searching
is always becoming less of a problem.

What would be annoying though is to invest work in a "perl 6 wiki"
that is only one of many "perl 6 wikis" and with no coordination of
efforts between them. (is there an official "perl 6 user's wiki" or
will there be, or is that a different question?)

--michael


On 24/05/06, Conrad Schneiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Michael Mathews
> >
> > I for one, think a Perl6-users wiki would be extremely useful, I'm
> > just not sure why a site that distinguishes itself as "a portal for
> > the Australian and New Zealand Perl community" makes the most sense
>
> I was only thinking of the availability of an existing Perl 6 Wiki, not the
> site as such.
>
> > (particularly to anyone trying to find the Perl6-users wiki from
> > outside this mailing list).
>
> My guess is that that's a pretty much location-independent problem, unless
> (for examples), (1) you get perl.org to host a Perl 6 users wiki, (2) you
> get perl.org and allied sites to put a prominent link to it on their main
> Perl 6 pages, and so on.
>
> > Okay, New Zealand and Australia have "parrots" but the connection is a
> > stretch. Isn't Larry and/or Damian from Australia? Maybe that's the
> > connection?
>
> The only connection was that it turned up fairly high on the list when I
> googled for "perl6" and "wiki".
>
> (However: "Damian Conway holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science and is an
> Honorary Associate Professor with the School of Computer
> Science and Software Engineering at Monash University,
> Melbourne, Australia.")
>
> > I'm just askin'...
>
> HTH
>
> Best regards,
> Conrad Schneiker
>
> www.athenalab.com/Perl_6_Users_FAQ.htm
>
> www.AthenaLab.com (Nano-electron-beam technology.)
>
>

Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6)

2006-05-24 Thread Michael Mathews 

Hi Conrad,

It's only an issue of coordination and findability. But that question
depends on what the intended purpose of the wiki would be. For example
there is nothing stopping anyone (including members of this list) from
creating and populating pages on www.wikipedia.org about Perl6 and
this user group. Then those pages would be available to the wikipedia
search engine. <--- Insert any other popular wiki there.

If, however, it is meant for mailing-list specific issues then only we
need to be able to easily find and search it, so there is no issue.
And of course with the ominipresence of google, finding and searching
is always becoming less of a problem.

What would be annoying though is to invest work in a "perl 6 wiki"
that is only one of many "perl 6 wikis" and with no coordination of
efforts between them. (is there an official "perl 6 user's wiki" or
will there be, or is that a different question?)

--michael


On 24/05/06, Conrad Schneiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Michael Mathews
>
> I for one, think a Perl6-users wiki would be extremely useful, I'm
> just not sure why a site that distinguishes itself as "a portal for
> the Australian and New Zealand Perl community" makes the most sense

I was only thinking of the availability of an existing Perl 6 Wiki, not the
site as such.

> (particularly to anyone trying to find the Perl6-users wiki from
> outside this mailing list).

My guess is that that's a pretty much location-independent problem, unless
(for examples), (1) you get perl.org to host a Perl 6 users wiki, (2) you
get perl.org and allied sites to put a prominent link to it on their main
Perl 6 pages, and so on.

> Okay, New Zealand and Australia have "parrots" but the connection is a
> stretch. Isn't Larry and/or Damian from Australia? Maybe that's the
> connection?

The only connection was that it turned up fairly high on the list when I
googled for "perl6" and "wiki".

(However: "Damian Conway holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science and is an
Honorary Associate Professor with the School of Computer
Science and Software Engineering at Monash University,
Melbourne, Australia.")

> I'm just askin'...

HTH

Best regards,
Conrad Schneiker

www.athenalab.com/Perl_6_Users_FAQ.htm

www.AthenaLab.com (Nano-electron-beam technology.)

RE: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6)

2006-05-24 Thread Conrad Schneiker 
> From: Michael Mathews
> 
> I for one, think a Perl6-users wiki would be extremely useful, I'm
> just not sure why a site that distinguishes itself as "a portal for
> the Australian and New Zealand Perl community" makes the most sense

I was only thinking of the availability of an existing Perl 6 Wiki, not the
site as such.

> (particularly to anyone trying to find the Perl6-users wiki from
> outside this mailing list).

My guess is that that's a pretty much location-independent problem, unless
(for examples), (1) you get perl.org to host a Perl 6 users wiki, (2) you
get perl.org and allied sites to put a prominent link to it on their main
Perl 6 pages, and so on.

> Okay, New Zealand and Australia have "parrots" but the connection is a
> stretch. Isn't Larry and/or Damian from Australia? Maybe that's the
> connection?

The only connection was that it turned up fairly high on the list when I
googled for "perl6" and "wiki". 

(However: "Damian Conway holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science and is an
Honorary Associate Professor with the School of Computer
Science and Software Engineering at Monash University,
Melbourne, Australia.")

> I'm just askin'... 

HTH

Best regards,
Conrad Schneiker
 
www.athenalab.com/Perl_6_Users_FAQ.htm

www.AthenaLab.com (Nano-electron-beam technology.)

Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6).

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Fenwick 
G'day Conrad and P6ers,

My apology for this being a very brief note.  I'm on an interstate training
assignment until the end of the week, and I'm scrounging net access where I can.

Conrad Schneiker wrote:

[snip]

> Their posted policies, FAQ, and (http://perl.net.au/wiki/PerlNet:About),
> seem to be very favorably inclined to serving the purposes of recent Perl 6
> Wiki proposals made on comp.perl6.lang and comp.perl6.users. (I've cc'd
> their contact on this note.)

As one of the PerlNet admins, I'd be delighted if PerlNet was used to assist in
any Perl 6 development, discussions, or other activities.  PerlNet exists to
provide support for the Perl community, and if there's anything I can do to make
it more suitable to help the Perl 6 effort, then I'd be very happy to do my best
to make it happen.

All the very best,

Paul

-- 
Paul Fenwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://perltraining.com.au/
Director of Training   | Ph:  +61 3 9354 6001
Perl Training Australia| Fax: +61 3 9354 2681

Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6)

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Mathews 

I for one, think a Perl6-users wiki would be extremely useful, I'm
just not sure why a site that distinguishes itself as "a portal for
the Australian and New Zealand Perl community" makes the most sense
(particularly to anyone trying to find the Perl6-users wiki from
outside this mailing list).

Okay, New Zealand and Australia have "parrots" but the connection is a
stretch. Isn't Larry and/or Damian from Australia? Maybe that's the
connection?

I'm just askin'...

--michael


On 23/05/06, Conrad Schneiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Please see forwarded note below.

(( Paul:  Didn't see this show up in the archives, so I'm forwarding it on
your behalf. Looks like you have to be subscribed to post. Details for doing
that are in:

 http://www.athenalab.com/Perl_6_Users_FAQ.htm

Also please look at a posted reply:

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.language/25399

Could you switch to an existing Perl 5 based wiki for the time being? ))

-- Forwarded message --
From: Paul Fenwick
Date: May 23, 2006 1:03 AM

[...]

G'day Conrad and P6ers,

My apology for this being a very brief note.  I'm on an interstate training
assignment until the end of the week, and I'm scrounging net access where I
can.

Conrad Schneiker wrote:

[snip]

> Their posted policies, FAQ, and (http://perl.net.au/wiki/PerlNet:About),
> seem to be very favorably inclined to serving the purposes of recent Perl
6
> Wiki proposals made on comp.perl6.lang and comp.perl6.users. (I've cc'd
> their contact on this note.)

As one of the PerlNet admins, I'd be delighted if PerlNet was used to assist
in
any Perl 6 development, discussions, or other activities.  PerlNet exists to
provide support for the Perl community, and if there's anything I can do to
make
it more suitable to help the Perl 6 effort, then I'd be very happy to do my
best
to make it happen.

All the very best,

Paul

--
Paul Fenwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://perltraining.com.au/
Director of Training   | Ph:  +61 3 9354 6001
Perl Training Australia| Fax: +61 3 9354 2681

Re: (Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6)

2006-05-23 Thread Conrad Schneiker 

Please see forwarded note below.

(( Paul:  Didn't see this show up in the archives, so I'm forwarding it on
your behalf. Looks like you have to be subscribed to post. Details for doing
that are in:

http://www.athenalab.com/Perl_6_Users_FAQ.htm

Also please look at a posted reply:

   http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.language/25399

Could you switch to an existing Perl 5 based wiki for the time being? ))

-- Forwarded message --
From: Paul Fenwick
Date: May 23, 2006 1:03 AM

[...]

G'day Conrad and P6ers,

My apology for this being a very brief note.  I'm on an interstate training
assignment until the end of the week, and I'm scrounging net access where I
can.

Conrad Schneiker wrote:

[snip]


Their posted policies, FAQ, and (http://perl.net.au/wiki/PerlNet:About),
seem to be very favorably inclined to serving the purposes of recent Perl

6

Wiki proposals made on comp.perl6.lang and comp.perl6.users. (I've cc'd
their contact on this note.)


As one of the PerlNet admins, I'd be delighted if PerlNet was used to assist
in
any Perl 6 development, discussions, or other activities.  PerlNet exists to
provide support for the Perl community, and if there's anything I can do to
make
it more suitable to help the Perl 6 effort, then I'd be very happy to do my
best
to make it happen.

All the very best,

   Paul

--
Paul Fenwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://perltraining.com.au/
Director of Training   | Ph:  +61 3 9354 6001
Perl Training Australia| Fax: +61 3 9354 2681

(Existing) Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6).

2006-05-23 Thread Conrad Schneiker 
I was googling around, looking for the most suitable Perl Wiki for a
possible addition of a Perl 6 section, and happened across this site:

Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6).

Their posted policies, FAQ, and (http://perl.net.au/wiki/PerlNet:About),
seem to be very favorably inclined to serving the purposes of recent Perl 6
Wiki proposals made on comp.perl6.lang and comp.perl6.users. (I've cc'd
their contact on this note.)

If previous Perl 6 Wiki proponents are OK with this site, then we could
perhaps post a note on comp.perl6.announce about it, and informally
encourage people to make use of it for the time being. 

(And of course, I've already added the above Perl 6 Wiki link to the Perl 6
Users FAQ.)

Best regards,
Conrad Schneiker

www.athenalab.com/ 
Perl_6_Users_FAQ.htm

www.  AthenaLab.com (Nano-electron-beam
technology.)