Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-31 Thread Roy Wilson, Jr.

Support mainly.

Also, each package is different in what it includes, you should take a look 
at the details for more information.

-Roy

On Sunday 29 July 2001 20:07, Christian Dechery wrote:
> What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their website and
> download a Free version (40MB)...
> I just don't get what are they asking 200, 400, 500 and even 5.000 dollars
> for.
>
> It's just a combo of PHP, MySQL and Apache pre-configured, some samples and
> some tools... but other than that... I can't see why it's so expensive...
> it's all opensource... it's all free... they have phpMyAdmin as the MySQL
> client...
>
> what are we paying for here?
> 
> . Christian Dechery (lemming)
> . http://www.tanamesa.com.br
> . Gaita-L Owner / Web Developer

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-31 Thread Werner Stuerenburg

innodb tables, too. See mysql documentation on table types. You
can choose any type for any table in yur database and change the
type of the table on the fly.

Alexander Wagner schrieb am Montag, 30. Juli 2001, 13:20:55:

> Kraa de Simon wrote:
>> I agree on most parts, but is there "transaction support" in MySQL?

> Berkley-DB tables support transactions.

> regards
> Wagner



-- 
Herzlich
Werner Stuerenburg

_
ISIS Verlag, Teut 3, D-32683 Barntrup-Alverdissen
Tel 0(049) 5224-997 407 ยท Fax 0(049) 5224-997 409
http://pferdezeitung.de



-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread Alexander Wagner

Kraa de Simon wrote:
> I agree on most parts, but is there "transaction support" in MySQL?

Berkley-DB tables support transactions.

regards
Wagner

-- 
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread Kraa de Simon

I agree on most parts, but is there "transaction support" in MySQL?

So if I try to do 2 updates and the application crashes in the middle, the
1st update is rolled back?

S.

> -Original Message-
> From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: maandag 30 juli 2001 12:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???
> 
> 
> 
> >NuSphere added a table type called gemini.
> >
> > >From nusphere.com:
> >
> >"Gemini tables provide row-level locking, robust transaction 
> support, and
> >reliable crash recovery."
> 
> Transactions.. you don't need Gemini to have transactions.. 
> INNOBASE (might 
> be it's called INNODB.. think theres an issue with INNOBASE as name).
> According to the manual theres an MySQL way to repair your 
> database.. And 
> MySQL AB is going to create a safe replication scema.. 
> according to the 
> manual.txt found in 3.23.36 .. that is..
> 
> Since Gemini is not included in the free download I wonder 
> why that is 
> about 23MB larger than the seperate parts you can download from other 
> websites.. Sure.. a few scripts.. but that shouldn't take much space..
> 
> >I guess you also pay the easy install (*) and for 
> e-mail/phone support.
> 
> lists @php.net and @mysql.com are FREE.. Phone support is (in my 
> experience) only good for simple problems.. but.. perhaps 
> their support is 
> much better than that..
> 
> >(*) It takes a few minutes to install and configure 
> MySQL, PHP, Apache,
> >Perl and some other stuff.
> 
> Uhm, it doesn't take that long to install from source using the 
> instructions found on www.devshed.com .. but that highly 
> depends on the 
> hardware you're using.
> 
> Bye,
> 
> 
> 
> B.
> 
> 
> -- 
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk


>NuSphere added a table type called gemini.
>
> >From nusphere.com:
>
>"Gemini tables provide row-level locking, robust transaction support, and
>reliable crash recovery."

Transactions.. you don't need Gemini to have transactions.. INNOBASE (might 
be it's called INNODB.. think theres an issue with INNOBASE as name).
According to the manual theres an MySQL way to repair your database.. And 
MySQL AB is going to create a safe replication scema.. according to the 
manual.txt found in 3.23.36 .. that is..

Since Gemini is not included in the free download I wonder why that is 
about 23MB larger than the seperate parts you can download from other 
websites.. Sure.. a few scripts.. but that shouldn't take much space..

>I guess you also pay the easy install (*) and for e-mail/phone support.

lists @php.net and @mysql.com are FREE.. Phone support is (in my 
experience) only good for simple problems.. but.. perhaps their support is 
much better than that..

>(*) It takes a few minutes to install and configure MySQL, PHP, Apache,
>Perl and some other stuff.

Uhm, it doesn't take that long to install from source using the 
instructions found on www.devshed.com .. but that highly depends on the 
hardware you're using.

Bye,



B.


-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-30 Thread Kraa de Simon

NuSphere added a table type called gemini.

>From nusphere.com:

"Gemini tables provide row-level locking, robust transaction support, and
reliable crash recovery."

It's not included in the free download.

I guess you also pay the easy install (*) and for e-mail/phone support.

(*) It takes a few minutes to install and configure MySQL, PHP, Apache,
Perl and some other stuff.

Simon.

> -Original Message-
> From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: maandag 30 juli 2001 8:49
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their 
> website and 
> >download a Free version (40MB)...
> 
> 
> >what are we paying for here?
> 
> 
> I don't know.. Perhaps you pay for the tools.. or because of 
> the fact they 
> seem to preconfigure the stuff.. I didn't check their website.
> 
> Must be quite some additions they made and tools they added 
> (or they didn't 
> bother to zip/gzip/whatever).. I downloaded MySQL, PHP and 
> Apache (all 
> latest releases).. that was about 17MB (manuals included)..
> 
> You can download everything for free from www.mysql.com www.php.net 
> www.apache.org and a step to step guide to install everything 
> can be found 
> at www.devshed.com (amongst others)..
> 
> So no reason to pay whatever amount to NuSphere.. If you need a 
> supportcontract for MySQL you could get one from the creators 
> .. found at 
> www.mysql.com
> Don't go to mysql.org since that's NuSphere trying to impersonate the 
> creators of MySQL..
> For MySQL www.mysql.com is the place to be.. all sorts of 
> tools can be 
> found there too best of all: it's FREE.
> 
> Bye,
> 
> 
> B.
> 
> 
> -- 
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-29 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk



>What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their website and 
>download a Free version (40MB)...


>what are we paying for here?


I don't know.. Perhaps you pay for the tools.. or because of the fact they 
seem to preconfigure the stuff.. I didn't check their website.

Must be quite some additions they made and tools they added (or they didn't 
bother to zip/gzip/whatever).. I downloaded MySQL, PHP and Apache (all 
latest releases).. that was about 17MB (manuals included)..

You can download everything for free from www.mysql.com www.php.net 
www.apache.org and a step to step guide to install everything can be found 
at www.devshed.com (amongst others)..

So no reason to pay whatever amount to NuSphere.. If you need a 
supportcontract for MySQL you could get one from the creators .. found at 
www.mysql.com
Don't go to mysql.org since that's NuSphere trying to impersonate the 
creators of MySQL..
For MySQL www.mysql.com is the place to be.. all sorts of tools can be 
found there too best of all: it's FREE.

Bye,


B.


-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[PHP] NuSphere.. what is it???

2001-07-29 Thread Christian Dechery

What's the deal with that NuShere stuff... I visited their website and 
download a Free version (40MB)...
I just don't get what are they asking 200, 400, 500 and even 5.000 dollars for.

It's just a combo of PHP, MySQL and Apache pre-configured, some samples and 
some tools... but other than that... I can't see why it's so expensive... 
it's all opensource... it's all free... they have phpMyAdmin as the MySQL 
client...

what are we paying for here?

. Christian Dechery (lemming)
. http://www.tanamesa.com.br
. Gaita-L Owner / Web Developer


-- 
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]