Re: CSCS and Dialysis..question

2010-11-23 Thread Tad Winiecki
Deborah- It's Nancy, Tad is just the name on the email account.  I don't 
have experience with Living Clay,  I googled it and all I can say is 
that clay has particles that have been ground into a very small size so 
that they settle out of water very slowly, and have absorptive 
properties.  However, I assume zeolite is larger as it is supposed to 
have a honeycomb structure that enables it to trap minerals, including 
heavy metals, inside, and therefore remove them from the body.  The 
minerals in each may be pretty close in composition, depending on the 
rocks that were the source of the clay?  Anyway, I was just passing on 
an email, not drawing on personal experience.


Nancy

Deborah Gerard wrote:

Tad...is the same as a product like Living Clay?
Thanks Deb



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Re: CSAny deals going on?

2010-11-23 Thread Tel Tofflemire
My friends in Minnesota owners of ( http://www.Wishgranted,com ) sell the best 
Unit I know of and have used for over 19 years without any problems have a sale 
on (Colloidal Master ) Automatic silver maker, with auto shut off when it 
reaches PPM you preset. It comes with pure silver strips, and full 
instructions. 
 It is by far (in my opinion the greatest for the money.)
 Tell Pearl, that Tel Tofflemire told you about it.  Reg Price was over $150.00
 and I seen a post it was on sale?  Good luck !Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com 
Dewey, AZ.





From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: cs silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 7:00:27 PM
Subject: CSAny deals going on?


Are there any site's that are offering any great deals right now on generator's 
for CS?



  

CSAny deals.... YES !

2010-11-23 Thread Tel Tofflemire
http://www.wishgranted.com

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
My first post proably would't work because I had a( ,) and should have had a 
{.} 
 Sorry its early in Arizona.


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From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
To: cs silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 7:00:27 PM
Subject: CSAny deals going on?


Are there any site's that are offering any great deals right now on generator's 
for CS?



  

CScs vs mms?

2010-11-23 Thread Beth
Hi 
Okay so I have been studying results from CS and MMS.
Can someone tell me what the difference is?
Is there a different result if I use silver compared to using mms?
Or do they both do the same thing?
If you have an opinion whether scientific or not, I would like to hear it.
 
Beth



Re: CScs vs mms?

2010-11-23 Thread PT Ferrance
One thing I have noticed is that no one has discussed CS for biofilms but I 
have 
read about using MMS for biofilms.
PT





From: Beth csilverl...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 9:32:09 AM
Subject: CScs vs mms?


Hi 
Okay so I have been studying results from CS and MMS.
Can someone tell me what the difference is?
Is there a different result if I use silver compared to using mms?
Or do they both do the same thing?
If you have an opinion whether scientific or not, I would like to hear it.

Beth 


Re: CScs vs mms?

2010-11-23 Thread Marshall Dudley
CS is colloidal particles of silver mixed with ionic silver.  It is 
effective on viruses, bacteria, yeasts and fungi.  It is also effective 
on at least some protozoa, but not directly effective on parasites. It 
cannot penetrate into the lymph system, and is believed by many to also 
be blocked by the blood brain barrier.


MMS is sodium chlorite which when mixed with an acid evolves chlorine 
dioxide.  the chlorine dioxide has some effect on viruses, bacteria, 
yeasts and fungi.  I think it is less effective than CS on most if not 
all of these.  It is very effective on parasites, and can penetrate into 
the lymph system, and brain.


Marshall

On 11/23/2010 9:32 AM, Beth wrote:

Hi
Okay so I have been studying results from CS and MMS.
Can someone tell me what the difference is?
Is there a different result if I use silver compared to using mms?
Or do they both do the same thing?
If you have an opinion whether scientific or not, I would like to hear it.
Beth






RE: CScs vs mms?

2010-11-23 Thread bob Larson
here's the highlights of my personal experience as well as observations of
others (on MMS  CS lists over time) with both.

if CS works for you, forget MMS.
MMS is harsh on the body... it is a powerful oxidizer and while it kills
pathogens it also depletes antioxidants, so heavy antioxidant
supplementation is needed after not long.
MMS reacts with whatever it contacts that is susceptible to oxidation,
including body tissues.
MMS is used up rapidly reacting with stuff, and mostly doesn't make it into
hard to reach places where pathogens may be, like inside host cells (virus)
and is mostly only good at getting to stuff in the blood.
MMS over time is hard on the immune system because of depletion of
antioxidants.
CS, by unknown means seems to enhance the immune system and silver does get
into all the cells of the body with long term use.  when it gets inside
cells it doesn't leave readily, so while it may take the form of silver
compounds, those compounds may still be direct pathogen killers.
CS appears to have the ability to cause apoptosis of cancer cells.  MMS may
destroy cancer cells by oxidation, showing initial benefit but as the MMS
runs down the immune system the cancer may get the upper hand.
MMS may be better for many problems where a short term burst of high kill
power is needed against stuff in the blood, and might be good to use in
pulses with CS used when the MMS is not.
MMS is vile to the taste... CS is not.

more, but i have no time to go on and am not an expert. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Beth [mailto:csilverl...@yahoo.ca] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:32 AM
 To: silver-list
 Subject: CScs vs mms?
 
 Hi 
 Okay so I have been studying results from CS and MMS.
 Can someone tell me what the difference is?
 Is there a different result if I use silver compared to using mms?
 Or do they both do the same thing?
 If you have an opinion whether scientific or not, I would 
 like to hear it.
  
 Beth
 
 


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Re: CScs vs mms?

2010-11-23 Thread David AuBuchon
I know someone who just got IV MMS (not activated).  He felt really run down
for a few days aftwerword.  I wonder if MMS is really safe.  Humble says it
does not affect healthy tissues, and says it is a weak oxidizer.  I wonder
if someone knows about calculating oxidation potential or whatever it is
called, and comparing it to other substances?  Ozone therapy appears to be
harmless for example, but it probably has very few actual number of free
radicals compared to taking MMS.

~Davud

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:59 AM, bob Larson bobl...@cablespeed.com wrote:

 here's the highlights of my personal experience as well as observations of
 others (on MMS  CS lists over time) with both.

 if CS works for you, forget MMS.
 MMS is harsh on the body... it is a powerful oxidizer and while it kills
 pathogens it also depletes antioxidants, so heavy antioxidant
 supplementation is needed after not long.
 MMS reacts with whatever it contacts that is susceptible to oxidation,
 including body tissues.
 MMS is used up rapidly reacting with stuff, and mostly doesn't make it into
 hard to reach places where pathogens may be, like inside host cells (virus)
 and is mostly only good at getting to stuff in the blood.
 MMS over time is hard on the immune system because of depletion of
 antioxidants.
 CS, by unknown means seems to enhance the immune system and silver does get
 into all the cells of the body with long term use.  when it gets inside
 cells it doesn't leave readily, so while it may take the form of silver
 compounds, those compounds may still be direct pathogen killers.
 CS appears to have the ability to cause apoptosis of cancer cells.  MMS may
 destroy cancer cells by oxidation, showing initial benefit but as the MMS
 runs down the immune system the cancer may get the upper hand.
 MMS may be better for many problems where a short term burst of high kill
 power is needed against stuff in the blood, and might be good to use in
 pulses with CS used when the MMS is not.
 MMS is vile to the taste... CS is not.

 more, but i have no time to go on and am not an expert.

  -Original Message-
  From: Beth [mailto:csilverl...@yahoo.ca]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:32 AM
  To: silver-list
  Subject: CScs vs mms?
 
  Hi
  Okay so I have been studying results from CS and MMS.
  Can someone tell me what the difference is?
  Is there a different result if I use silver compared to using mms?
  Or do they both do the same thing?
  If you have an opinion whether scientific or not, I would
  like to hear it.
 
  Beth
 
 


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Re: CSAny deals going on?

2010-11-23 Thread Sandee George

Well said Jaxi !!!
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CSAny deals going on?

2010-11-23 Thread Deborah Gerard
You Rock Tel thank-you s much :)
I sure will mention your name to Pearl
Debbie





From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 8:32:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSAny deals going on?


My friends in Minnesota owners of ( http://www.Wishgranted,com ) sell the best 
Unit I know of and have used for over 19 years without any problems have a sale 
on (Colloidal Master ) Automatic silver maker, with auto shut off when it 
reaches PPM you preset. It comes with pure silver strips, and full 
instructions. 
 It is by far (in my opinion the greatest for the money.)
 Tell Pearl, that Tel Tofflemire told you about it.  Reg Price was over $150.00
 and I seen a post it was on sale?  Good luck !Tel Tofflemire 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com 
Dewey, AZ. 



  

Re: CSCS and Dialysis..question

2010-11-23 Thread Deborah Gerard
Thank-you Nancy :)





From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 3:24:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSCS and Dialysis..question

Deborah- It's Nancy, Tad is just the name on the email account.  I don't have 
experience with Living Clay,  I googled it and all I can say is that clay has 
particles that have been ground into a very small size so that they settle out 
of water very slowly, and have absorptive properties.  However, I assume 
zeolite 
is larger as it is supposed to have a honeycomb structure that enables it to 
trap minerals, including heavy metals, inside, and therefore remove them from 
the body.  The minerals in each may be pretty close in composition, depending 
on 
the rocks that were the source of the clay?  Anyway, I was just passing on an 
email, not drawing on personal experience.

Nancy

Deborah Gerard wrote:
 Tad...is the same as a product like Living Clay?
 Thanks Deb


  

Re: CSAny deals going on?

2010-11-23 Thread jaxi
I and many speak just as highly of the silver puppies.  They ship free and
are guaranteed.

Choose the generator you want based on features and feedback on its quality.
 NOT based on a sale.

FWIW, IMO, YMMV, etc

Jaxi



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote:

 *You Rock Tel thank-you s much :)*
 *I sure will mention your name to Pearl*
 *Debbie*

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 *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Tue, November 23, 2010 8:32:08 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSAny deals going on?

  My friends in Minnesota owners of ( http://www.Wishgranted,com ) sell the
 best Unit I know of and have used for over 19 years without any problems
 have a sale on (Colloidal Master ) Automatic silver maker, with auto shut
 off when it reaches PPM you preset. It comes with pure silver strips, and
 full instructions.  It is by far (in my opinion the greatest for the money.)
  Tell Pearl, that Tel Tofflemire told you about it.  Reg Price was over
 $150.00
  and I seen a post it was on sale?  Good luck !
 Tel Tofflemire
 http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 Dewey, AZ.





Re: CScs vs mms?

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I was told by one manufacturer of ozonated water devices that this water 
actually has a very high ORP.  As it floods the body with oxygen, this is very 
counterintuitive, much like lemon water being an alkalizer.   I don't have the 
background in chemistry to understand how this can be true, but I believe the 
information is factual and verifiable (or at least falsifiable) quite easily 
with an ORP meter. If this is correct, ozonated water might have a deadly 
effect on anaerobic pathogens while not causing oxidative stress.   I'm keen to 
try the product someday.  








On 2010/11/24, at 4:06, David AuBuchon wrote:

 I know someone who just got IV MMS (not activated).  He felt really run down 
 for a few days aftwerword.  I wonder if MMS is really safe.  Humble says it 
 does not affect healthy tissues, and says it is a weak oxidizer.  I wonder if 
 someone knows about calculating oxidation potential or whatever it is 
 called, and comparing it to other substances?  Ozone therapy appears to be 
 harmless for example, but it probably has very few actual number of free 
 radicals compared to taking MMS.
 
 ~Davud
 
 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:59 AM, bob Larson bobl...@cablespeed.com wrote:
 here's the highlights of my personal experience as well as observations of
 others (on MMS  CS lists over time) with both.
 
 if CS works for you, forget MMS.
 MMS is harsh on the body... it is a powerful oxidizer and while it kills
 pathogens it also depletes antioxidants, so heavy antioxidant
 supplementation is needed after not long.
 MMS reacts with whatever it contacts that is susceptible to oxidation,
 including body tissues.
 MMS is used up rapidly reacting with stuff, and mostly doesn't make it into
 hard to reach places where pathogens may be, like inside host cells (virus)
 and is mostly only good at getting to stuff in the blood.
 MMS over time is hard on the immune system because of depletion of
 antioxidants.
 CS, by unknown means seems to enhance the immune system and silver does get
 into all the cells of the body with long term use.  when it gets inside
 cells it doesn't leave readily, so while it may take the form of silver
 compounds, those compounds may still be direct pathogen killers.
 CS appears to have the ability to cause apoptosis of cancer cells.  MMS may
 destroy cancer cells by oxidation, showing initial benefit but as the MMS
 runs down the immune system the cancer may get the upper hand.
 MMS may be better for many problems where a short term burst of high kill
 power is needed against stuff in the blood, and might be good to use in
 pulses with CS used when the MMS is not.
 MMS is vile to the taste... CS is not.
 
 more, but i have no time to go on and am not an expert.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Beth [mailto:csilverl...@yahoo.ca]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:32 AM
  To: silver-list
  Subject: CScs vs mms?
 
  Hi
  Okay so I have been studying results from CS and MMS.
  Can someone tell me what the difference is?
  Is there a different result if I use silver compared to using mms?
  Or do they both do the same thing?
  If you have an opinion whether scientific or not, I would
  like to hear it.
 
  Beth
 
 
 
 
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CSBronchitis and Tonsil Removal

2010-11-23 Thread beitharmony

Hi,

This is my nth bout with bronchitis. Had my tonsils removed as a child, 
and since then have been wide open for infections throughout my 
body.Anyone who is considering removal of their tonsils please don't. 
They really are the first line of defence in the body and block out the 
germs before they can do damage. In my time and still now doctors think 
that they're superfluous, but I can tell you - they are very much 
warranted. Now I go from bout to bout of hacking coughs and a lot of 
pain - and am incapacitated for weeks at end.


What works the best for the coughing? Have done all the usual - 
including the steam, the drinking, honey lemon, soups, CS - and more. 
How do you, for example beef up the immune system?


Any help appreciated,
Joy

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Re: CSBronchitis and Tonsil Removal

2010-11-23 Thread Jane MacRoss
Try Drosera 30C (homeopoathic - Washington Homeopathics)  for the cough. It 
cured mine years ago forever.  I had my tonsils out @ 5 years never had 
bronchitis.  Take a dose night  morning under the tongue 10 minutes either 
side of food or drink.


Nebulising DMSO (1 drop)  ( CS 5 mL) may clear any residual problem from 
the chest


Jane



This is my nth bout with bronchitis. Had my tonsils removed as a child,
and since then have been wide open for infections throughout my
body.Anyone who is considering removal of their tonsils please don't.
They really are the first line of defence in the body and block out the
germs before they can do damage. In my time and still now doctors think
that they're superfluous, but I can tell you - they are very much
warranted. Now I go from bout to bout of hacking coughs and a lot of
pain - and am incapacitated for weeks at end.

What works the best for the coughing? Have done all the usual -
including the steam, the drinking, honey lemon, soups, CS - and more.
How do you, for example beef up the immune system?

Any help appreciated,
Joy




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