Re: [sqlite] Need help reading 3.3.2 database files with 3.5.2...

2007-11-17 Thread drh
"Michael Dupuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have an application that uses SQLite 3.3.2 right now, and I'm
> looking to move to 3.5.2. The problem I have right now is that 3.5.2
> can't open the 3.3.2 formatted database files. I know that the file
> format changed, and then changed back, but I thought there was still a
> way to get 3.5.2 to open the 3.3.2 "new" formatted database files. I
> tried executing both of the PRAGMA legacy_file_format=ON and PRAGMA
> legacy_file_format=OFF commands, but neither worked, is there any
> other way that I can get the latest version of SQLite to read my older
> formatted database files?
> 

SQLite version 3.5.2 can read and write database files created
by every prior version of SQLite.  No exceptions.

The previous statement is actually more general:  SQLite 
version 3.x.y can read and write any database created by
any prior version of SQLite.

The second statement is an invariant.  If ever we change 
SQLite in such a way that it cannot read or write prior
database versions, then it will become SQLite version 4.0.0.
There are no plans to ever do this.

Things *mostly* work in the other direction:  SQLite version 3.0.0
can read and write databases created by any subsequent version
of SQLite.  There are some exceptions to this rule.  If a
database uses features that were added later (such as
decending indices, virtual tables, autovacuum, etc) then
clearly an earlier version of SQLite will not be able to
work with that database.  

Unlike other database, the SQLite file format does not
change gratuitously.

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Re: [sqlite] Need help reading 3.3.2 database files with 3.5.2...

2007-11-17 Thread Michael Dupuis
> SQLite version 3.5.2 can read and write database files created
> by every prior version of SQLite.  No exceptions.
>

Which is what I would expect. But still, I get the error that the
latest build can't read my older format. Is there anything that CAN
cause this error? My version 3.3.2 was built on Mac OS X, the latest
is as well. There were no changes in source, both were built straight
out of the source tarball... I don't recall doing anything "special"
to the 3.3.2 build that would break any compatibility either way. It
is puzzling.

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Re: [sqlite] Need help reading 3.3.2 database files with 3.5.2...

2007-11-17 Thread drh
"Michael Dupuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > SQLite version 3.5.2 can read and write database files created
> > by every prior version of SQLite.  No exceptions.
> >
> 
> Which is what I would expect. But still, I get the error that the
> latest build can't read my older format. Is there anything that CAN
> cause this error? My version 3.3.2 was built on Mac OS X, the latest
> is as well. There were no changes in source, both were built straight
> out of the source tarball... I don't recall doing anything "special"
> to the 3.3.2 build that would break any compatibility either way. It
> is puzzling.
> 

I was able to open and run "PRAGMA integrity_check" on the
database file you sent me (off-list) on both Linux and
MacOSX x86 using SQLite version 3.4.1 and 3.5.2.  No errors.

I have no idea what is causing your problem.

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Re: [sqlite] Need help reading 3.3.2 database files with 3.5.2...

2007-11-17 Thread Michael Dupuis
> I was able to open and run "PRAGMA integrity_check" on the
> database file you sent me (off-list) on both Linux and
> MacOSX x86 using SQLite version 3.4.1 and 3.5.2.  No errors.
>
> I have no idea what is causing your problem.

Ok, since it was confirmed here that there SHOULDN'T be a problem, I
went back, rebuilt things again, and now everything seems to work. I
have no idea what the problem was, and investigated it before posting,
but *shrug* seems to be fine now. I don't think there was an
incompatible version hanging around, but something was causing the
issue for me. At any rate, thanks for the help. Problem seems to be
solved.

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Re: [sqlite] Trying to build a static library

2007-11-17 Thread A.J.Millan

John:

Thanks for your feedback, but the question is:  are you compiling gcc in 
Linux or in Windows-32 with minGW?


The problem is that I'm using the GNU gcc compiler under Windows (minGW), 
trying to build a static library as a C (not C++) project, and get a lot of 
compiler error.  All related to type conversion.  As an example here is the 
first:


sources/where.c: In function `int whereClauseInsert(WhereClause*, Expr*, 
int)':

sources/where.c:231: error: invalid conversion from `void*' to `WhereTerm*'

Perhaps I'm missing some compiler option, but by the moment the system work 
pretty well compiling projects in both C and C++ using that platform.


Some idea?


I use static libraries and gcc.  Just use --enable-static and you should
get the link library created.



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Hi all:

Instead the supplied DLL, I would like to statically link the SQLite
library in a new project, and I wonder if someone has build a SQLite
static library xxx.a using minGW in Windows and the sources/headers
contanied in the sqlite-source-3_5_2.zip


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Re: [sqlite] Memory Usage

2007-11-17 Thread Raymond Hurst

Hi Scott,
My initial evaluation of this database was that it allocates memory for 
each operation on the database. It returns the memory only when the 
database is committed. So the behavior you see is normal.

Ray Hurst

ScottDerrick wrote:

I am using sqlite3 in a DAQ device.  Data can be viewed on the unit using a
Rails enabled web server.

The data is being stored to the database every 1 to 5 seconds.  I wanted to
leave the the database open for as long as teh application is running and
then use a IMMEDIATE, PREPARE-INSERT(x), FINALIZE, COMMIT sequence.   The
application may run as long as 30 days at a time.

To save disk access and CPU time I was not going to open and close the
database for every insertion iteration.  However I have noticed that my
application seems use more and more memory as time goes bye.  If I open and
close the database for the insertion cycle the memory usage is stable.

It seems like a bug to me but I assume the database is keeping some kind of
rollback or restore data in memory.  Any way I can tel the database not to
do save this data in memory if I don't close the database, so my memory
usage is stable?

thanks,

Scott


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Re: [sqlite] Memory Usage

2007-11-17 Thread Raymond Hurst

Hi Scott,

Ooops..meant to say the following.

My initial evaluation of this database was that it allocates memory for 
each operation on the database. It returns the memory only when the 
database is CLOSED. So the behavior you see is normal.

Ray Hurst

ScottDerrick wrote:

I am using sqlite3 in a DAQ device.  Data can be viewed on the unit using a
Rails enabled web server.

The data is being stored to the database every 1 to 5 seconds.  I wanted to
leave the the database open for as long as teh application is running and
then use a IMMEDIATE, PREPARE-INSERT(x), FINALIZE, COMMIT sequence.   The
application may run as long as 30 days at a time.

To save disk access and CPU time I was not going to open and close the
database for every insertion iteration.  However I have noticed that my
application seems use more and more memory as time goes bye.  If I open and
close the database for the insertion cycle the memory usage is stable.

It seems like a bug to me but I assume the database is keeping some kind of
rollback or restore data in memory.  Any way I can tel the database not to
do save this data in memory if I don't close the database, so my memory
usage is stable?

thanks,

Scott


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[sqlite] building a custom DBD::SQLite

2007-11-17 Thread P Kishor
I need to build a DBD::SQLite package using SQLite with fts
capabilities. Can someone on this list kindly give me painless, easy
to understand instructions to do so? I need to do this on a Mac OS X
10.4 first, and then on my web host subsequently (running some flavor
of Linux, natch).

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Re: [sqlite] Memory Usage

2007-11-17 Thread ScottDerrick

There must be a way to flush what ever is being cached.  Help

It's hard to believe I'm the only guy that wants to keep the database open
and just do inserts, to save CPU time.  


Scott


rhurst2 wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Ooops..meant to say the following.
> 
> My initial evaluation of this database was that it allocates memory for 
> each operation on the database. It returns the memory only when the 
> database is CLOSED. So the behavior you see is normal.
> Ray Hurst
> 
> ScottDerrick wrote:
>> I am using sqlite3 in a DAQ device.  Data can be viewed on the unit using
>> a
>> Rails enabled web server.
>> 
>> The data is being stored to the database every 1 to 5 seconds.  I wanted
>> to
>> leave the the database open for as long as teh application is running and
>> then use a IMMEDIATE, PREPARE-INSERT(x), FINALIZE, COMMIT sequence.   The
>> application may run as long as 30 days at a time.
>> 
>> To save disk access and CPU time I was not going to open and close the
>> database for every insertion iteration.  However I have noticed that my
>> application seems use more and more memory as time goes bye.  If I open
>> and
>> close the database for the insertion cycle the memory usage is stable.
>> 
>> It seems like a bug to me but I assume the database is keeping some kind
>> of
>> rollback or restore data in memory.  Any way I can tel the database not
>> to
>> do save this data in memory if I don't close the database, so my memory
>> usage is stable?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> Scott
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Re: [sqlite] Memory Usage

2007-11-17 Thread drh
Raymond Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Ooops..meant to say the following.
> 
> My initial evaluation of this database was that it allocates memory for 
> each operation on the database. It returns the memory only when the 
> database is CLOSED. So the behavior you see is normal.
> Ray Hurst
> 

No.

SQLite does maintain a cache of the database file.  It
will hold up to 2000 pages by default.  You can change
the cache size by using the "PRAGMA cache_size=N" pragma.
You can set N as small as 10.

The cache does not grow beyond its limit.

If you compile with -DSQLITE_ENABLE_MEMORY_MANAGMENT=1
the you can use the sqlite3_soft_heap_limit() interface to
limit the total amount of memory SQLite will use.  You can
also use sqlite3_release_memory() to get SQLite to give
up memory out of its cache.

If you compile with -DSQLITE_MEMORY_SIZE= then SQLite
will *never* call malloc().  Instead, it uses a static
array that is  bytes in size for all of its memory
needs.  You can get by with as little as 100K or so of
memory, though the more memory you provide, the faster
it will run.  5MB is a good value.

In the next release, we might provide a new C interface
or a pragma or both that will flush the cache.

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[sqlite] sqlite and lemon operator precedence problem/question

2007-11-17 Thread Joe Wilson
I'm having difficulty with Lemon's operator precedence.

Given SQLite's operator precedence table where it's presumably
interpreted with lowest precedence tokens at the top to the
highest precedence tokens at the bottom:

  %left OR.
  %left AND.
  %right NOT.
  %left IS MATCH LIKE_KW BETWEEN IN ISNULL NOTNULL NE EQ.
  %left GT LE LT GE.
  %right ESCAPE.
  %left BITAND BITOR LSHIFT RSHIFT.
  %left PLUS MINUS.
  %left STAR SLASH REM.
  %left CONCAT.
  %left COLLATE.
  %right UMINUS UPLUS BITNOT.

Why doesn't the BITNOT operator '~' have the highest precedence?

  SQLite version 3.5.2
  Enter ".help" for instructions
  sqlite> select ~1 - ~5;
  -8
  sqlite> select (~1) - (~5);
  4

Is precedence not determined by the order of the %left/%right 
lines in parse.y?  If not, how might one assign BITNOT the highest 
precedence?

MySQL, by comparison:

  mysql> select ~1 - ~5;
  +-+
  | ~1 - ~5 |
  +-+
  |   4 |
  +-+

  mysql> select (~1) - (~5);
  +-+
  | (~1) - (~5) |
  +-+
  |   4 |
  +-+

MySQL operator precedence:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/operator-precedence.html

MS SQL Server precedence:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190276.aspx



  

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Re: [sqlite] sqlite and lemon operator precedence problem/question

2007-11-17 Thread D. Richard Hipp


On Nov 17, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Joe Wilson wrote:


I'm having difficulty with Lemon's operator precedence.

Given SQLite's operator precedence table where it's presumably
interpreted with lowest precedence tokens at the top to the
highest precedence tokens at the bottom:

  %left OR.
  %left AND.
  %right NOT.
  %left IS MATCH LIKE_KW BETWEEN IN ISNULL NOTNULL NE EQ.
  %left GT LE LT GE.
  %right ESCAPE.
  %left BITAND BITOR LSHIFT RSHIFT.
  %left PLUS MINUS.
  %left STAR SLASH REM.
  %left CONCAT.
  %left COLLATE.
  %right UMINUS UPLUS BITNOT.

Why doesn't the BITNOT operator '~' have the highest precedence?

  SQLite version 3.5.2
  Enter ".help" for instructions
  sqlite> select ~1 - ~5;
  -8
  sqlite> select (~1) - (~5);
  4



That would be a bug in lemon...

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Re: [sqlite] sqlite and lemon operator precedence problem/question

2007-11-17 Thread D. Richard Hipp


On Nov 17, 2007, at 5:12 PM, D. Richard Hipp wrote:



On Nov 17, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Joe Wilson wrote:


I'm having difficulty with Lemon's operator precedence.



That would be a bug in lemon...



I was wrong.  Turns out the bug was in the SQLite grammar
file parse.y.  It was assigning the same precedence to the
ones-complement ~ operator and the NOT operator.  But
~ should have higher precedence, it seems.  Fixed by
check-in [4548].

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Re: [sqlite] sqlite and lemon operator precedence problem/question

2007-11-17 Thread Joe Wilson
> >   sqlite> select ~1 - ~5;
> >   -8
> >   sqlite> select (~1) - (~5);
> >   4
> >
> 
> That would be a bug in lemon...

I guess adopting the same operator precedence as MySQL or MS SQL Server
is out of the question?

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/operator-precedence.html

BINARY, COLLATE
!
- (unary minus), ~ (unary bit inversion)
^
*, /, DIV, %, MOD
-, +
<<, >>
&
|
=, <=>, >=, >, <=, <, <>, !=, IS, LIKE, REGEXP, IN
BETWEEN, CASE, WHEN, THEN, ELSE
NOT
&&, AND
XOR
||, OR
:=

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190276.aspx



  

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Re: [sqlite] sqlite and lemon operator precedence problem/question

2007-11-17 Thread Joe Wilson
--- "D. Richard Hipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wrong.  Turns out the bug was in the SQLite grammar
> file parse.y.  It was assigning the same precedence to the
> ones-complement ~ operator and the NOT operator.  But
> ~ should have higher precedence, it seems.  Fixed by
> check-in [4548].

Just to confirm, if you mix multiple operators in the same Lemon 
rule must you take manual precautions that they do not have different
precedences?

It would be pretty cool if that expansion could happen automatically
since the action specified in the grammar is the same:

original rule:

 expr(A) ::= NOT|BITNOT(B) expr(X). {
   A = sqlite3PExpr(pParse, @B, X, 0, 0);
   sqlite3ExprSpan(A,,>span);
 }

your grammar correction:

 expr(A) ::= NOT(B) expr(X). {
   A = sqlite3PExpr(pParse, @B, X, 0, 0);
   sqlite3ExprSpan(A,,>span);
 }
 expr(A) ::= BITNOT(B) expr(X). {
   A = sqlite3PExpr(pParse, @B, X, 0, 0);
   sqlite3ExprSpan(A,,>span);
 }

...or perhaps have Lemon issue a warning of an operator precedence 
problem?



  

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Re: [sqlite] sqlite and lemon operator precedence problem/question

2007-11-17 Thread D. Richard Hipp


On Nov 17, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Joe Wilson wrote:


  sqlite> select ~1 - ~5;
  -8
  sqlite> select (~1) - (~5);
  4



That would be a bug in lemon...


I guess adopting the same operator precedence as MySQL or MS SQL  
Server

is out of the question?



I believe SQLite uses the same operator precedence as the SQL standard
requires.  If I am wrong about that, please correct me and I will  
change it.


On the other hand, changing the operator precedence to agree with
MySQL or MSSQL is not something we are interested in doing if they
are using a non-standard precedence.

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Re: [sqlite] Trying to build a static library

2007-11-17 Thread John Stanton
I use gcc for compiling Sqlite for both Windows and Linux and others. 
On Windoze I use Dev-Cpp as and IDE over the top of Mingw.  You might 
look at the compiler options and ensure that you are just specifying 
plain vanilla ANSI C.


A.J.Millan wrote:

John:

Thanks for your feedback, but the question is:  are you compiling gcc in 
Linux or in Windows-32 with minGW?


The problem is that I'm using the GNU gcc compiler under Windows 
(minGW), trying to build a static library as a C (not C++) project, and 
get a lot of compiler error.  All related to type conversion.  As an 
example here is the first:


sources/where.c: In function `int whereClauseInsert(WhereClause*, Expr*, 
int)':

sources/where.c:231: error: invalid conversion from `void*' to `WhereTerm*'

Perhaps I'm missing some compiler option, but by the moment the system 
work pretty well compiling projects in both C and C++ using that platform.


Some idea?


I use static libraries and gcc.  Just use --enable-static and you should
get the link library created.



A.J.Millan wrote:
Hi all:

Instead the supplied DLL, I would like to statically link the SQLite
library in a new project, and I wonder if someone has build a SQLite
static library xxx.a using minGW in Windows and the sources/headers
contanied in the sqlite-source-3_5_2.zip


Any tips on that are welcome.





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Re: [sqlite] Trying to build a static library

2007-11-17 Thread Cory Nelson
On Nov 17, 2007 12:07 PM, A.J.Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sources/where.c: In function `int whereClauseInsert(WhereClause*, Expr*,
> int)':
> sources/where.c:231: error: invalid conversion from `void*' to `WhereTerm*'
>

My first guess is you are trying to compile it as C++.  Otherwise I
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Re: [sqlite] Memory Usage

2007-11-17 Thread ScottDerrick

Dr. Hipp,

thanks, I'm sure I can use one or more of your solutions below to solve my
problem...

Scott
 
SQLite does maintain a cache of the database file.  It
will hold up to 2000 pages by default.  You can change
the cache size by using the "PRAGMA cache_size=N" pragma.
You can set N as small as 10.

The cache does not grow beyond its limit.

If you compile with -DSQLITE_ENABLE_MEMORY_MANAGMENT=1
the you can use the sqlite3_soft_heap_limit() interface to
limit the total amount of memory SQLite will use.  You can
also use sqlite3_release_memory() to get SQLite to give
up memory out of its cache.

If you compile with -DSQLITE_MEMORY_SIZE= then SQLite
will *never* call malloc().  Instead, it uses a static
array that is  bytes in size for all of its memory
needs.  You can get by with as little as 100K or so of
memory, though the more memory you provide, the faster
it will run.  5MB is a good value.

In the next release, we might provide a new C interface
or a pragma or both that will flush the cache.

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[sqlite] SQL operator precedence

2007-11-17 Thread Joe Wilson
> I believe SQLite uses the same operator precedence as the SQL standard
> requires.  If I am wrong about that, please correct me and I will  
> change it.

As I interpret the SQL92 standard (which I believe SQLite tries to 
follow), I think all comparison operators should have the same level 
of precedence:

  ::=

  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 

Nothing in the wording of the standard that I can find suggests 
that NE and EQ have a different precedence level from the other
4 comparison ops:

  %left IS MATCH LIKE_KW BETWEEN IN ISNULL NOTNULL NE EQ.
  %left GT LE LT GE.

The following binary bitwise operators are outside of the SQL92 
standard:

  <<, >>
  &
  |

but many SQL implementations tend to adopt the C precedence rules 
in this case. Principle of least astonishment, I imagine.



  

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Re: [sqlite] Bug on "!" unary prefix operator?

2007-11-17 Thread Joe Wilson
--- Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SQLite  documentation indicates that "!" is a unary prefix operator. Is this 
> a bug?

Yeah, the docs seem to indicate that SQLite supports '!'.

http://sqlite.org/lang_expr.html:

  Supported unary prefix operators are these:

-+!~NOT

If you care to have this operator, see attached patch.

This unary '!' operator works like the NOT operator except 
it has the same precedence level as the unary bitwise not 
operator '~'.

sqlite> select !!23;
1
sqlite> select !0 + !0;
2
sqlite> select not 0 + not 0;
0




  

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RCS file: /sqlite/sqlite/src/parse.y,v
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--- src/parse.y 17 Nov 2007 22:23:28 -  1.236
+++ src/parse.y 18 Nov 2007 05:33:03 -
@@ -205,7 +205,7 @@ id(A) ::= ID(X). {A = X;}
 %left STAR SLASH REM.
 %left CONCAT.
 %left COLLATE.
-%right UMINUS UPLUS BITNOT.
+%right UMINUS UPLUS BITNOT UNOT.
 
 // And "ids" is an identifer-or-string.
 //
@@ -746,6 +746,10 @@ expr(A) ::= BITNOT(B) expr(X). {
   A = sqlite3PExpr(pParse, @B, X, 0, 0);
   sqlite3ExprSpan(A,,>span);
 }
+expr(A) ::= UNOT(B) expr(X). {
+  A = sqlite3PExpr(pParse, TK_NOT, X, 0, 0);
+  sqlite3ExprSpan(A,,>span);
+}
 expr(A) ::= MINUS(B) expr(X). [UMINUS] {
   A = sqlite3PExpr(pParse, TK_UMINUS, X, 0, 0);
   sqlite3ExprSpan(A,,>span);
Index: src/tokenize.c
===
RCS file: /sqlite/sqlite/src/tokenize.c,v
retrieving revision 1.136
diff -u -3 -p -r1.136 tokenize.c
--- src/tokenize.c  27 Aug 2007 23:26:59 -  1.136
+++ src/tokenize.c  18 Nov 2007 05:33:03 -
@@ -203,12 +203,12 @@ static int getToken(const unsigned char 
   }
 }
 case '!': {
-  if( z[1]!='=' ){
-*tokenType = TK_ILLEGAL;
-return 2;
-  }else{
+  if( z[1]=='=' ){
 *tokenType = TK_NE;
 return 2;
+  }else{
+*tokenType = TK_UNOT;
+return 1;
   }
 }
 case '|': {
Index: test/main.test
===
RCS file: /sqlite/sqlite/test/main.test,v
retrieving revision 1.27
diff -u -3 -p -r1.27 main.test
--- test/main.test  3 Sep 2007 15:42:48 -   1.27
+++ test/main.test  18 Nov 2007 05:33:03 -
@@ -267,7 +267,7 @@ do_test main-3.1 {
   sqlite3 db testdb
   set v [catch {execsql {SELECT * from T1 where x!!5}} msg]
   lappend v $msg
-} {1 {unrecognized token: "!!"}}
+} {1 {near "!": syntax error}}
 do_test main-3.2 {
   catch {db close}
   foreach f [glob -nocomplain testdb/*] {file delete -force $f}

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