Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-03-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Weighing in late here (sorry!), Scout US is currently not using OSM
> addresses for search and geocoding.
>

Might want to turn that on so OSM overrides whatever database it's
currently checking.  I haven't intensively used Scout, but so far it's been
more miss than hit versus using Osmand's Nominatim.
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
How about this:  particularly in the case of two businesses within one
building polygon,
create non-building area's for the business tags.  Then you get the sense
of scale of the business,
and preserve the free tagging of the building polygon.
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-12 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Peter Dobratz  wrote:
>
>> I agree with the sentiment in this wiki page that I quoted here.  I think
>> that if there is only 1 POI that occupies the building, then that is best
>> indicated by putting the tags for the POI on the building polygon.  If you
>> just have a Node for the POI, then you are not saying anything about the
>> size of the business, and you are not saying anything about whether there
>> are multiple businesses occupying the same building.
>>
>> Though there are often different entities that own the building and the
>> business in the building, I think for OSM we are much more concerned with
>> information about the business
>>
>> If the business closes or moves, then just delete any tags related to the
>> business (shop, phone, website, etc), but keep the building and addr tags.
>> When a new business comes in, add tags as appropriate for that business.
>>
>
> Generally I agree with adding the business name to the building polygon.
> But what do you do when a single business operates in a "named" building?
> My choice is to preserve the building name on the polygon and add the
> business as a node within the building polygon.
>

Creating the internal node for the business is an option in the case where
you want to also have a name tag on the building that is different from the
name.  Depending on the situation, it may also be more appropriate to put
the name on a land use polygon (landuse=retail or landuse=commercial) that
surrounds the building and grounds.  You could also have more than one name
tag on the building by making use of various name tags (for example
alt_name or old_name).  If there's a name etched in stone that's part of
the building denoting it's original use (for example a former elementary
school), then I capture that with old_name.

Peter
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Peter Dobratz  wrote:

> I agree with the sentiment in this wiki page that I quoted here.  I think
> that if there is only 1 POI that occupies the building, then that is best
> indicated by putting the tags for the POI on the building polygon.  If you
> just have a Node for the POI, then you are not saying anything about the
> size of the business, and you are not saying anything about whether there
> are multiple businesses occupying the same building.
>
> Though there are often different entities that own the building and the
> business in the building, I think for OSM we are much more concerned with
> information about the business
>
> If the business closes or moves, then just delete any tags related to the
> business (shop, phone, website, etc), but keep the building and addr tags.
> When a new business comes in, add tags as appropriate for that business.
>

Generally I agree with adding the business name to the building polygon.
But what do you do when a single business operates in a "named" building?
My choice is to preserve the building name on the polygon and add the
business as a node within the building polygon.

Clifford


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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-12 Thread Martijn van Exel
Weighing in late here (sorry!), Scout US is currently not using OSM
addresses for search and geocoding.

Martijn


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Hans De Kryger 
wrote:

> Does anyone know if osm navigation apps can route you to your location
> using area's tagged with a full address? I ask because I've been tagging
> apartment complexes, (Retail area's with names) with full addresses. Adding
> the data to the area.
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Hans*
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-12 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Bryce Nesbitt  wrote:

>
>> This seems to be "tagging for the renderer" which is not a good idea.  If
>> the only thing occupying the building is a single POI, then put the POI
>> tags on the closed Way for the building outline.  By adding a new object
>> (Node) for the POI, you are also going against the "One feature, one OSM
>> element" idea.  There are renderers in existence that will display both the
>> house number and the name of a restaurant with food icon.
>>
>
>
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
>>
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice
>>
>>
> There are two features here:  the building, and the business.
> The building and business may well have different owners.
> In some cases a business will sell it's building but lease back the space.
>
> The address is generally an attribute of the building and does not change
> as tenants come and go.
> The business inherits the address for the time they are in the building.
> They may have a website= that keeps working even if they move.
>
> ---
>
> Thus one could argue that the "one feature one osm element" rule would
> want:
> * Attach an address to the building outline.  Tag the owner if that is
> known (e.g. the leasing company).
> * Add POI nodes for one or more businesses inside that building.  These
> may have website/phone tags.
>

What you are suggesting is the opposite of what the "one feature one osm
element" page is suggesting.  In fact, what you are suggesting is the very
first thing in the list of things to avoid:

>From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element:
"Examples of bad situations:

   - An area object representing a single-use building with a point object
   inside it. Move the tags to the area object and delete the point."


I agree with the sentiment in this wiki page that I quoted here.  I think
that if there is only 1 POI that occupies the building, then that is best
indicated by putting the tags for the POI on the building polygon.  If you
just have a Node for the POI, then you are not saying anything about the
size of the business, and you are not saying anything about whether there
are multiple businesses occupying the same building.

Though there are often different entities that own the building and the
business in the building, I think for OSM we are much more concerned with
information about the business

If the business closes or moves, then just delete any tags related to the
business (shop, phone, website, etc), but keep the building and addr tags.
When a new business comes in, add tags as appropriate for that business.

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
>
>
> This seems to be "tagging for the renderer" which is not a good idea.  If
> the only thing occupying the building is a single POI, then put the POI
> tags on the closed Way for the building outline.  By adding a new object
> (Node) for the POI, you are also going against the "One feature, one OSM
> element" idea.  There are renderers in existence that will display both the
> house number and the name of a restaurant with food icon.
>


> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
>
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice
>
>
There are two features here:  the building, and the business.
The building and business may well have different owners.
In some cases a business will sell it's building but lease back the space.

The address is generally an attribute of the building and does not change
as tenants come and go.
The business inherits the address for the time they are in the building.
They may have a website= that keeps working even if they move.

---

Thus one could argue that the "one feature one osm element" rule would want:
* Attach an address to the building outline.  Tag the owner if that is
known (e.g. the leasing company).
* Add POI nodes for one or more businesses inside that building.  These may
have website/phone tags.
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-10 Thread Greg Morgan
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Peter Dobratz  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Greg Morgan  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Mike N  wrote:
>
> ...
>>
>> > The addr:housenumber doesn't render anyway if the
>> > building has also been tagged as another POI that renders.
>>
>>
>> I've solved this problem by putting the address on the building.  If
>> the building also has a POI tag such as amenity=fuel, I move this tag
>> to a new POI node.  I place the POI node so that both the
>> addr:housenumber render along with the POI information.  Addresses and
>> buildings don't change as much as how  busiensses can come and go.
>
>
> This seems to be "tagging for the renderer" which is not a good idea.  If
> the only thing occupying the building is a single POI, then put the POI tags
> on the closed Way for the building outline.  By adding a new object (Node)
> for the POI, you are also going against the "One feature, one OSM element"
> idea.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice

Tagging for rendering would be adding tags to make it render.  In my
book, all I am doing in this case is unstacking duplicate nodes as if
the Keepright map pointed these out.  Perhaps I'll read the last two
wiki pages.  What you quote is new to me.  The wiki pages also say
that I should fill in our dry river beds with some sort of water tag
so we paint pretty blue tiles like Google and other maps do.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/33.4185/-112.0503   The problem
with that idea is that the blue tiles would obscure the recreational
opportunities that the canals and river beds afford my area. Had my
local knowledge been available during World War II, then the German
UBoat prisoners might have had a different plan than floating down the
Salt River to the Pacific Ocean. http://brazilbrazil.com/powcamp.html
;-)

> There are renderers in existence that will display both the house number and 
> the name of a restaurant with food icon.

This is the only render system that I know
http://www.openstreetmap.org/. It does not do what you say.

Regards,
Greg

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-09 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Greg Morgan  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Mike N  wrote:
>
...

> > The addr:housenumber doesn't render anyway if the
> > building has also been tagged as another POI that renders.
>
>
> I've solved this problem by putting the address on the building.  If
> the building also has a POI tag such as amenity=fuel, I move this tag
> to a new POI node.  I place the POI node so that both the
> addr:housenumber render along with the POI information.  Addresses and
> buildings don't change as much as how  busiensses can come and go.
>

This seems to be "tagging for the renderer" which is not a good idea.  If
the only thing occupying the building is a single POI, then put the POI
tags on the closed Way for the building outline.  By adding a new object
(Node) for the POI, you are also going against the "One feature, one OSM
element" idea.  There are renderers in existence that will display both the
house number and the name of a restaurant with food icon.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-05 Thread Greg Morgan
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Mike N  wrote:
> On 2/4/2015 11:25 PM, Greg Morgan wrote:
>>
>>   addr:housenumber contains both the number
>> and the building letter in the same field.  The map is useful because
>> you can find the building. How have other people tried to handle these
>> situations?
>
>
> I haven't tried in any meaningful way.  It's too early to guess how an
> address matching utility might work.   Until now I have used both
>
>  addr:housenumber=724D
>
> and
>  addr:housenumber=724 + addr:unit=D
>
>  depending on whether the address specified by the owner's web site included
> the letter.   More recently, I've gravitated towards separating the
> addr:unit even if the owner specified it as one word, but I'm not sure it's
> the most useful.   The addr:housenumber doesn't render anyway if the
> building has also been tagged as another POI that renders.


I've solved this problem by putting the address on the building.  If
the building also has a POI tag such as amenity=fuel, I move this tag
to a new POI node.  I place the POI node so that both the
addr:housenumber render along with the POI information.  Addresses and
buildings don't change as much as how  busiensses can come and go.

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-05 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Brad Neuhauser 
wrote:

> Including a unit number in the house number is incorrect and potentially
> confusing. There are house numbers that have a prefix or suffix as part of
> the house number, that's a different thing. It just depends on how the
> building is addressed.


+1

I'd like to weigh in on rendering of addresses. Currently the housenumber
renders on z17 and above. From an aesthetics view, rendering addresses
clutters up the map. From a practical view, address information can be
helpful, but rendering every unit number doesn't gain much unless it is in
an area such as a mobile home park. All you really need is just the
housenumber to find the building. I'm all in favor of only rendering only
at the highest zoom level and only once for each housenumber, not for every
unit number, especially since the unit number doesn't render.

Rendering unit numbers in a mobile home park or camping site numbers would
aid finding the correct location.

What is really important is collecting and entering the data so routers and
search engines can find the location.

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-05 Thread Brad Neuhauser
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Mike N  wrote:

> On 2/4/2015 11:25 PM, Greg Morgan wrote:
>
>>   addr:housenumber contains both the number
>> and the building letter in the same field.  The map is useful because
>> you can find the building. How have other people tried to handle these
>> situations?
>>
>
> I haven't tried in any meaningful way.  It's too early to guess how an
> address matching utility might work.   Until now I have used both
>
>  addr:housenumber=724D
>
> and
>  addr:housenumber=724 + addr:unit=D
>
>  depending on whether the address specified by the owner's web site
> included the letter.   More recently, I've gravitated towards separating
> the addr:unit even if the owner specified it as one word, but I'm not sure
> it's the most useful.   The addr:housenumber doesn't render anyway if the
> building has also been tagged as another POI that renders.
>
> Including a unit number in the house number is incorrect and potentially
confusing. There are house numbers that have a prefix or suffix as part of
the house number, that's a different thing. It just depends on how the
building is addressed.
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-05 Thread Brad Neuhauser
>
> > I punted.  When Josm added a preset that included addr:flats, then I
> > started using that tag.  Right or wrong I figured most of the other
> > tags are Euro-English coloured, so to speak, that it did not mater if
> > I used addr:flats verses addr:unit.
> __
>
> addr:flats works if you are talking about flats, but doesn't fit other
> scenarios, such as suites in an office building.
>
> addr:flats is for a range of unit numbers. That's how it's described in
the wiki, and you can see that is indeed the main usage if you look at
taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=addr%3Aflats
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 4, 2015 10:25:02 PM CST, Greg Morgan  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Darrell Fuhriman 
> wrote:
> > It seems to be addr:unit, though it’s not widely used. It’s what
> I’ve been
> > using, though.
> >
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:unit
> >
> > d.
> > On Feb 3, 2015, at 12:28, Paul Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > What's the correct tag for unit number, anyway?  This is driving me
> insane
> > since it's making it impossible to complete mapping the caravan site
> I live
> 
> I punted.  When Josm added a preset that included addr:flats, then I
> started using that tag.  Right or wrong I figured most of the other
> tags are Euro-English coloured, so to speak, that it did not mater if
> I used addr:flats verses addr:unit. __

addr:flats works if you are talking about flats, but doesn't fit other 
scenarios, such as suites in an office building.

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-05 Thread Mike N

On 2/4/2015 11:25 PM, Greg Morgan wrote:

  addr:housenumber contains both the number
and the building letter in the same field.  The map is useful because
you can find the building. How have other people tried to handle these
situations?


I haven't tried in any meaningful way.  It's too early to guess how an 
address matching utility might work.   Until now I have used both


 addr:housenumber=724D

and
 addr:housenumber=724 + addr:unit=D

 depending on whether the address specified by the owner's web site 
included the letter.   More recently, I've gravitated towards separating 
the addr:unit even if the owner specified it as one word, but I'm not 
sure it's the most useful.   The addr:housenumber doesn't render anyway 
if the building has also been tagged as another POI that renders.



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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-04 Thread Greg Morgan
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Darrell Fuhriman  wrote:
> It seems to be addr:unit, though it’s not widely used. It’s what I’ve been
> using, though.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:unit
>
> d.
> On Feb 3, 2015, at 12:28, Paul Johnson  wrote:
>
> What's the correct tag for unit number, anyway?  This is driving me insane
> since it's making it impossible to complete mapping the caravan site I live

I punted.  When Josm added a preset that included addr:flats, then I
started using that tag.  Right or wrong I figured most of the other
tags are Euro-English coloured, so to speak, that it did not mater if
I used addr:flats verses addr:unit. The problem is that only
addr:house number renders.  I am not sure how we can render an address
so that it is useful other than only displaying the number.  Then
there is a debate over what tags to add for completeness of an
imported address such as addr:state being redundant.  Moreover, there
is the debate of including/excluding zipcode areas in the OSM data so
that it could be used to improve address data.  On top of suites what
do we do with building numbers.  I have no joy with a complex like
this http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/33.59390/-111.98171.  How do
you add the suite ranges with any meaning along with a building letter
that is useful on the map?  I though x001-x012 for the suite because
there is more than one suite for the building.  The floor is the
distinguishing number for all the suites in that building.   Then
there was this experiment
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/33.58335/-111.90703.  I left
crappy but useful map data.  addr:housenumber contains both the number
and the building letter in the same field.  The map is useful because
you can find the building. How have other people tried to handle these
situations?

Regards,
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 3, 2015 2:39:42 PM CST, Clifford Snow  
wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Paul Johnson 
> wrote:
> 
> > Wonder if we could get this added to the address presets, as this
> (at
> > least for the US) is a pretty big deal between office towers,
> apartment
> > buildings, trailer parks, and almost every other situation where you
> have
> > multiple tenants on the same cadastre lot...
> 
> 
> +1
> 
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Sounds like a good idea to me.

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-03 Thread Hans De Kryger
I use the same tag (addr:unit) been using it mostly for retail areas with
suite numbers. Haven't used it anywhere else yet.
On Feb 3, 2015 1:40 PM, "Clifford Snow"  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Paul Johnson  wrote:
>
>> Wonder if we could get this added to the address presets, as this (at
>> least for the US) is a pretty big deal between office towers, apartment
>> buildings, trailer parks, and almost every other situation where you have
>> multiple tenants on the same cadastre lot...
>
>
> +1
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-03 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Paul Johnson  wrote:

> Wonder if we could get this added to the address presets, as this (at
> least for the US) is a pretty big deal between office towers, apartment
> buildings, trailer parks, and almost every other situation where you have
> multiple tenants on the same cadastre lot...


+1


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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Wonder if we could get this added to the address presets, as this (at least
for the US) is a pretty big deal between office towers, apartment
buildings, trailer parks, and almost every other situation where you have
multiple tenants on the same cadastre lot...

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Darrell Fuhriman  wrote:

> It seems to be addr:unit, though it’s not widely used. It’s what I’ve been
> using, though.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:unit
>
> d.
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2015, at 12:28, Paul Johnson  wrote:
>
> What's the correct tag for unit number, anyway?  This is driving me insane
> since it's making it impossible to complete mapping the caravan site I live
> in to a level of completeness that you can navigate by without trying to
> find the unit numbers (which, stupidly, are all on the utility pedestals at
> the *back* of the space, instead of by the roadside where they're not
> blocked by slideouts routinely)
>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-03 Thread Darrell Fuhriman
It seems to be addr:unit, though it’s not widely used. It’s what I’ve been 
using, though.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:unit

d.


On Feb 3, 2015, at 12:28, Paul Johnson  wrote:

> What's the correct tag for unit number, anyway?  This is driving me insane 
> since it's making it impossible to complete mapping the caravan site I live 
> in to a level of completeness that you can navigate by without trying to find 
> the unit numbers (which, stupidly, are all on the utility pedestals at the 
> back of the space, instead of by the roadside where they're not blocked by 
> slideouts routinely)
> 

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-03 Thread Paul Johnson
What's the correct tag for unit number, anyway?  This is driving me insane
since it's making it impossible to complete mapping the caravan site I live
in to a level of completeness that you can navigate by without trying to
find the unit numbers (which, stupidly, are all on the utility pedestals at
the *back* of the space, instead of by the roadside where they're not
blocked by slideouts routinely)

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Richard Weait  wrote:

> That would depend on the navigation app in question, wouldn't it?  If
> we mappers include more data, well structured, complete and up to
> date, app developers will be more inclined / motivated to make their
> apps work with it, I would think.
>
> I think, based on your email, that you and I are mapping malls in a
> similar fashion.
>
> Add the whole building with address, name, etc, then add nodes for
> each shop or other amenity.  Include the unit number on the node if
> that is also available.
>
> This approach seems to work well with hotels (with internal
> restaurant) condo residences with ground floor retail, etc.
>
> Best regards and happy mapping,
>
> Richard
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2014-12-08 Thread Tod Fitch
I don't think the issue would be routing so much as finding the location. I 
just checked OsmAnd to see if it could find a near by apartment complex where 
the grounds are tagged with, among other tags addr:housenumber=*, 
addr:street=*, landuse=residential and name=*. The buildings on it are simply 
tagged with building=yes and source=bing.

OsmAnd was able to find the location by address but, interestingly, not by 
name. Looks like the online routing sites I use like 
http://map.project-osrm.org and http://www.yournavigation.org/index.php can 
find the location by name and address.

-Tod

On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:19 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote:

> Does anyone know if osm navigation apps can route you to your location using 
> area's tagged with a full address? I ask because I've been tagging apartment 
> complexes, (Retail area's with names) with full addresses. Adding the data to 
> the area.
> 
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2014-12-08 Thread Brian Egge
Mkgmap will search for an entrance=main, then an entrance=yes, and lastly
use the building's centroid.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:21 AM Hans De Kryger 
wrote:

> Does anyone know if osm navigation apps can route you to your location
> using area's tagged with a full address? I ask because I've been tagging
> apartment complexes, (Retail area's with names) with full addresses. Adding
> the data to the area.
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Hans*
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2014-12-08 Thread Richard Weait
That would depend on the navigation app in question, wouldn't it?  If
we mappers include more data, well structured, complete and up to
date, app developers will be more inclined / motivated to make their
apps work with it, I would think.

I think, based on your email, that you and I are mapping malls in a
similar fashion.

Add the whole building with address, name, etc, then add nodes for
each shop or other amenity.  Include the unit number on the node if
that is also available.

This approach seems to work well with hotels (with internal
restaurant) condo residences with ground floor retail, etc.

Best regards and happy mapping,

Richard

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[Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2014-12-08 Thread Hans De Kryger
Does anyone know if osm navigation apps can route you to your location
using area's tagged with a full address? I ask because I've been tagging
apartment complexes, (Retail area's with names) with full addresses. Adding
the data to the area.

*Regards,*

*Hans*
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