Buying the book? Confirm your purchase!

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Guys,

If you have bought the book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner, 
make sure to confirm your address when you receive a request to do so. 
It appears that several people have never confirmed their address and 
thus have never received the book. If you confirm your address, you'll 
receive the book by postal mail a few weeks later.


That leaves me to wish everyone a great New Year's Eve and a wonderful 
2023! Happy New Year everyone!


Kind regards,

Mark

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Re: Sad news about Brahmanathaswami

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I'm so sorry to read this.  Thanks for sharing the message with us, 
André. My sincere condolences to all his love ones.


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Op 25-12-2022 om 18:00 schreef Andre Garzia via use-livecode:

Dear LiveCoders,

Many of you here remember Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami (some of you met him as 
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami many years ago). Swami has always been a champion for 
LiveCode and together with other other monks in Kaua’i Hindu Monastery built 
what is probably the largest LiveCode-backed website available on the net. He’s 
been a constant fixture here on the list for many years and many here been at 
some time or another worked with him on various projects. I’m sad to say that 
Brahmanathaswami passed away this week on Hawaii. His life has been full of joy 
among his beloved monks in a paradise Island full of love and sunshine.

I’ve worked with him there on and off for the best part of maybe 18 years 
(we’re not exactly sure when I started), he’s been a great friend and together 
we built many wondrous things with LiveCode. I’ll forever cherish those years, 
and I hope you all remember him fondly today as well.

Kind regards
Andre

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Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

In one word: DreamCard! :D

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Op 2-9-2021 om 15:49 schreef Michael Kristensen via use-livecode:

Hi there

I suggest that there could be a Non-Appbuilding Community Edition

That would be for personal use, and to learn coding.

Michael



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Re: Calling all fish!

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David,

I sent you an e-mail yesterday. Maybe in your spam box.

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Op 2-9-2021 om 14:22 schreef David Bovill via use-livecode:

Don’t go , we love you :)

The open source version, is alive. It just needs maintainers. Personally I 
think this move by LiveCode is healthy. We now have two choices a free open 
source edition maintained by the community, and a closed source version 
maintained by LiveCode LTD. If you want to use the commercial wizz-bang extras 
LiveCode LTD adds - then you can upgrade.

In the meantime the language should go it’s own way. The language I believe has 
always wanted to be a free and open literate language, that enables anyone to 
code in an English like syntax. That vision was the foundation of the 
Kickstarter Campaign and was called Open Language.

I believe the community should maintain that vision. I for one am going to dive 
in :) I see this in two parts.

The first is preserving and maintaining the current code base. The LiveCode 
engine is rich and powerful. Using the current community edition you can create 
pretty well anything you want. Preserving this and strengthening the existing 
sharing of code, and documentation gets us a long way.

Second I feel we should aspire to something meaningful and motivating for the 
future of the language. This would be a long term vision, with a lot of 
learning on the road there. This is how I see it for myself personally, and of 
course I would love it if I had some company on the way :)

Open Language is something I know that is close to LiveCode Ltd’s heart, but it 
is hampered by the need to preserve the legacy  of maintaining complex and 
user-friendly IDE. That with the perceived commercial need to provide all the 
present abilities of the standalone builder mean that it is not a realistic 
proposition. However we can simplify by focussing only on the pure language as 
used by the server - this is a manageable task.

Freeing Open Language from this legacy is a good thing. When it is truly free 
it can join on equal footing the other great languages out there, and still 
hopefully remain compatible with LiveCode Ltd’s commercial offering. For me my 
journey is about mastering the tools that enable the creation of modern 
languages, and these tools have come a long way.

I’m heading on a family holiday now - but over the next two weeks - in 
discussion and with the advice of whoever is interested - Ill get a web site up 
for the project.

    Schedule a call with me
On 2 Sep 2021, 02:29 +0100, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
, wrote:

It’s, “So long, and thanks for all the fish!” And unless you can do a double 
360 back flip while passing through a smallish ring suspended above the pool, I 
remain unimpressed.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 1, 2021, at 17:53, Neville Smythe via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:36 pm, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

i am not sure, if everyone is aware of it, but standalones that were created 
with the Starter Plan license will expire as soon as the Startert Plan 
subscription expires.

Not even Apple is that rapacious.

I used to have a commercial licence back when I was selling stuff (although the 
economics of software never made sense). Since retiring I have been 
“freeloading" with the Community edition as a hobbyist, my only LC uses being 
for personal use, and maintaining admin and operating software I wrote for a 
not-for-profit sporting organisation, and occasionally contributing bug reports. I 
can well understand the need for LC to move to a profitable basis, and I would be 
happy buy a plan if it made sense for our use, but there is no way my NFP 
association can afford US$1000 every year - or even one year (we would use 3 
platforms, and not even the Server is thrown in with the desktop platforms). And a 
Starter Kit that means the app would stop working when I pass on (I have been around 
since Hypercard day 1) is an insult. Seems to me the hobbyist use of LC has come to 
an end. A great pity, but I guess times move on.

I have greatly enjoyed being part of this (mostly) friendly and generous 
community for many years.

Neville Smythe

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Re: knot in my brain?

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:-)

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Op 15-9-2020 om 15:34 schreef Klaus major-k via use-livecode:

Hi all,


Am 15.09.2020 um 15:30 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
:

Hi friends,

...
repeat with i = 1 to the num of grcs
## This line:
if the short name of grc i begins with "Graphic_" then
## Gives me the error -> no such object
...
What am I overlooking?
I know do, but have no clue currently...

ignore this, of course I cannot delete an already deleted object.
...
repeat with i = the num of grcs down to 1
...
Does the trick, ouch embassing!


Best

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Re: knot in my brain?

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Hi Klaus,

I bet the problem is in the remainder of the script, for instance 
changing layers or deleting graphics (although the latter probably not). 
If you change it to


repeat with i = 1 to the num of grcs
  if the short name of grc i beginswith "Graphic_" then put i
end repeat

do you still get an error?

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Op 15-9-2020 om 15:30 schreef Klaus major-k via use-livecode:

Hi friends,

...
repeat with i = 1 to the num of grcs
## This line:
if the short name of grc i begins with "Graphic_" then
## Gives me the error -> no such object
...
What am I overlooking?
I know do, but have no clue currently...

Thanks in advance!


Best

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GABRIELE STROE could you please contact me

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Dear Gabriele Stroe,

We (Economy-x-Talk) have tried to contact you in every possible way. We 
have even tried to call you, but your phone number appears 
dysfunctional. Please contact me as a as possible by sending an e-mail 
addres to m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com, or contact me on Twitter 
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Re: LCGitHubLib deprecation

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That's a very general message. It doesn't say that the events are in the 
lib and it doesn't say that the lib will be removed. Also, you don't 
really need this lib just to use Github with LiveCode, even if it may be 
useful.


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Op 8-7-2020 om 16:25 schreef Pi Digital via use-livecode:

Hi

This is what I received:

We're contacting you regarding upcoming changes for your GitHub Apps:
  - LCGitHubLib

We no longer support two events which your GitHub Apps may rely on, 
"integration_installation" and "integration_installation_repositories".

These events can be replaced with the "installation" and 
"installation_repositories" events respectively.

The "integration_installation" and "integration_installation_repositories" 
events will be removed after October 1st, 2020.

Please visit 
https://developer.github.com/changes/2020-04-15-replacing-the-installation-and-installation-repositories-eventsfor
 more information about suggested changes, brownouts, and removal dates.

Thanks,
The GitHub Team


On 8 Jul 2020, at 12:47, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Sean,

i did a Google search for LCGitHubLib  and could not find any information about 
it.

What is/was it?


-
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Life Is Too Short For Boring Code


Am 07.07.2020 um 22:01 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode 
:

Hey all.

Just received notification from github that the LCGitHubLib app will no longer 
be available on github from October. I’m sure the relevant coders have also 
been notified but will this have impact on our own repository forks. We have 
till October so there’s no rush. I’m just starting the conversation for an 
early heads up.

All the best

Sean Cole
Pi Digital
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Re: Saving stacks before closing

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In LiveCode, usually you're asked to save a stack, even if you didn't 
change it.


The reason is that the property that indicates that the stack has been 
changed, is set to true when a field gets focus. A field gets focus 
whenever a stacks comes to front. When a stack is closed, it needs to 
come to the front :-)


On Mac this issue is worse than on Windows.

In standalones, you need to take care of this yourself. I'm sure you can 
do a better job than LiveCode, particularly if you can limit your app

  to specific changes.

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Op 24-5-2020 om 19:28 schreef David Epstein via use-livecode:

I want to give the user a choice of whether to save changes before closing a 
stack.  To script this, I will handle the closeStackRequest message, and find a 
way to keep track of whether the stack in question has been changed since it 
was last saved.

What I am trying to figure out is under what circumstances LiveCode takes care 
of this without my scripting it.  In the LiveCode IDE, trying to close an 
unsaved stack seems automatically to ask me whether I want to save changes (but 
I have not found a handler in the backscripts that implements this).  This is 
true of stacks I have created with the IDE “new stack” tool and then try to 
close.  Is it also true of stacks I have created by script?

And what happens in a standalone?  Does this feature still work there?

In short, do I need to script an option to save changed stacks before closing, 
or can I rely on LiveCode to take care of this?

Many thanks.

David Epstein
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Re: Where is André ? André says "goodbye"

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It looks like url("file:...") still makes some conversion. I think we 
should still use binfile to avoid conversion and before we do so, we 
need to make sure we get the encoding right.


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Op 14-3-2020 om 14:29 schreef Paul Dupuis via use-livecode:

On 3/14/2020 3:58 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
revXMLPutIntoNode idID, "/identity/name", textEncode (field  
"name_source" ,"UTF8") -- fld contains "André"


When I write the XML file:

put revXMLText (idID) into URL **myFile.xml**

… I don’t find André any longer, but Andr


First,  is HTML for é which is correct, just encoded as an HTML 
character value.


If you code it as (below) with the textEncode to UTF8 removed

on mouseUp
  put 
revXMLCreateTree("",false,true,false) 
into idID
  revXMLPutIntoNode idID, "/identity/name",  field  "name_source" -- 
fld contains "André"
  put revXMLText (idID) into URL 
("file:"("desktop")&"myFile.xml")

end mouseUp

You just get Andr - the é is removed

on mouseUp
  put 
revXMLCreateTree("",false,true,false) 
into idID
  revXMLPutIntoNode idID, "/identity/name",  field  "name_source" -- 
fld contains "André"
  put textEncode(revXMLText (idID),"UTF-8") into URL 
("file:"("desktop")&"myFile.xml")

end mouseUp

You still just get Andr - the é is removed

I think revXMLText may convert all non-ASCII characters to HTML entities

Some of the rev* libraries are not fully Unicode aware, for example, 
for revZIP, I filed this confirmed bug: 
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22202


Either by design or as a bug, any accented characters (non-ASCII) you 
may have to deal with HTTML encodings for


And a search of the LiveCode Quality Center shows the exact bug you 
are running into is: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18927


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Raffle

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I'm on the verge of raffling off a copy of Programming LiveCode for the 
Real Beginner, second edition, on Facebook. If you want to get a chance 
to win a free copy, go to https://www.facebook.com/LiveCode.Beginner/ 
and like the pinned post about the raffle and like the page.


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Re: Book - Programming LiveCode... - What if you don't hear form us after purchasing

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Dear Marian,

Yes, your book was sent approximately 6 weeks ago. We'll be in touch.

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Op 16-2-2020 om 13:18 schreef Marian Petrides MD via use-livecode:

Mark,

I purchased the book and I think I responded to your email regarding mailing 
address. However, I have not received my book. Has it been sent?

For the record, my mailing address is:



[snip]



Thanks.

Marian



Sent from my iPad


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If you don't see the e-mail and hence don't reply, you won't be receiving your 
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So, in short, when purchasing a book please make sure all contact information 
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If you don't hear from us, contact us and don't use an e-mail address that's 
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Book - Programming LiveCode... - What if you don't hear form us after purchasing

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Hello book fans,

There are a few people who have purchased the book but never responded 
to our e-mails. If you have purchased it but haven't received it yet, 
please read this.


One you have your payment confirmation (from PayPal or from 
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one in an envelope), but we'll keep trying to send you e-mails for 
several months before sending you the letter.


If you don't see the e-mail and hence don't reply, you won't be 
receiving your copy of the book. If you also don't reply to the letter, 
we will just keep trying to send you e-mails forever. Sometimes, if we 
know how to contact you, we may also contact you on FB Messenger or 
WhatsApp or even send you an SMS. So, make sure the phone number 
provided to PayPal, if you have provided one, is correct.



So, in short, when purchasing a book please make sure all contact 
information that you provide to PayPal is correct, particularly if you 
purchase without account, and double-check your e-mail address and your 
phone number.


If you don't hear from us, contact us and don't use an e-mail address 
that's linked to Apple (e.g. mac.com, me.com, apple.com, icloud.com).


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Sorry - test

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Problems with my IP and this list again. Testing.

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Re: Keep trying

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It worked :-) Sorry for the white noise.

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Op 1/7/2020 om 8:23 PM schreef Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode:

Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address.




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Keep trying

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Trying to send a message from my (blocked?) IP address.

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Re: Second edition of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Thanks Tom!

Mark Schonewille
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Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
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Op 12/31/2019 om 1:40 AM schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:

Right on Mark...wishing you success with the book.




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Second edition of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hi everyone,,

I hope you have a great Chrsitmas and a great year behind you. This ear 
I've been busier than ever. One of my projects was the second edition of 
my book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.


https://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-real-beginner

The book has been updated to include the changes in recent versions of 
LiveCode. Important changes concern the properties inspector and the 
standalone application settings window. Large parts of the chapter about 
properties have been rewritten and several pictures have been updated.


Almost no sample scripts needed to be updated, apart from a number of 
Unicode-related scripts. I've decided, however, to discuss both the 
unicodeEncode/unicodeDecode as well as the textEncode/textDecode 
functions. It seems to me that the old functions are still useful, even 
if only for the sake of backward compatibility. (Not so long ago, I had 
a project where direct conversion using uniEncode and uniDecode seemed 
the easiest route).


Currently, we're in the process of updating the website. I have replaced 
the old (red) cover picture with a picture of the new, fresh, yellow 
cover. A few details still need to be adjusted. Soon, we will raise the 
price of the book. The price change is due to DHL's decision to increase 
the tarrif for books. The current price is 32 euro but we are forced to 
raise the price, prrobably by 4 euro to 36 euro. As long as the price on 
the website hasn't been changed, you can still purchase the book at the 
old price.


IF you have any questions, please write to supp...@economy-x-talk.com. 
Don't use an e-mail address that is affiliated with Apple (for instance 
mac.com, apple.com, icloud.com; we won't be able to confirm your address 
and send you a book). The book is available as a paperback and not in an 
electronic format and we ship all over the world (with China as a 
possible exception; contact support if you're in China).


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Re: test

[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Sorry for the somewhat anapproprate e-mail. After being unable to send 
e-mail to the use list for about year, and apparently LiveCode.com being 
unable to solve the problem, I suddenly seem to be able to connect to 
the community again.


Op 29-7-2019 om 00:17 schreef Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode:

tst


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[Drs Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

tst


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Re: LC Server - MySQL - update about 2000 rows/records of a table

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

The shell function can do this. I don't know if there could be a limit 
to the length of the shell command though.


Working example:

on mouseUp
   put shortfilepath("C:\Program Files\MySQL\MySQL Server 
5.6\bin\mysql.exe") into myFilePath

   -- the following line contains 2 insert commands
   put "insert into testtable (name) values ('Anne'); insert into 
testtable (name) values ('Belinda')" into mySql
   put myFilePath && "-uUSERNAME -pPASSWORD test -e" && quote & mySql & 
quote into myQuery

   get shell(myQuery)
end mouseUp

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Op 29-Dec-17 om 21:53 schreef Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode:

Hi,

i need to update regularly about 2000 rows/records of a MySQL table with 
Livecode Server.

What is better?
Executing the 2000 update commands in one take using revexecuteSQL
or should i execute one update command after each other within a repeat loop?

What do you think?

Regards,

Matthias




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Re: using LC as an emulator

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Someone wrote an emulator using Xojo.
https://alwaysbusycorner.com/2015/02/20/xojo-chip-8-emulator/
Perhaps an emulator would also be possible in LiveCode.

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Op 06-Nov-17 om 20:22 schreef Mike Kerner via use-livecode:

Anyone write an emulator in LC?  I've got an old ERP system that we own all
the source to.  I'd like to.  The environment is interpreted, so if I could
make an emulator/wrapper, I could in theory move the whole thing into LC
and dump the old environments.




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[OT] If you purchased the book recently...

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hello list members,

Have you purchased Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner recently? 
Please, check your mail box (and your spam box) and find our e-mail 
message. We have asked you to confirm your postal mail address. We need 
you to reply before we can send you the book! If you confirm your 
address now, we'll send the book by the end of the week!


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Re: Book (If you're new to LiveCode...)

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hi,

At the end of this week, our office will close for 2 weeks. Any orders 
received before Wednesday 20th September will be processed and sent 
before we close.


Once you have ordered Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner, keep 
an eye on your e-mail! You need to confirm your postal mail address 
before we can send the book.



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Op 29-Aug-17 om 11:52 schreef Mark Schonewille:

Summer is nearing its end and schools are starting again. That seems a
good moment to ask your attention for the book Programming LiveCode for
the Real Beginner. I wrote this book in 2012-2013 and have sold numerous
copies over the past 5 years --for which a big thank-you to the LiveCode
community. Eventually, I decided to print a really huge pile, so it
would never be out of stock and we'd be able to deliver immediately
(depending on postal services and customs).

The fourth print of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner has been
updated to include a number of new XML commands, which were introduced
after the first release of the book. I have also added a few remarks
about LiveCode 7 to the chapter on Unicode. Since the book deals with
the basics of the LiveCode scripting language, which everybody needs to
know, it continues to be very relevant, no matter which version of
LiveCode you're using.

Only the paragraphs about the properties inspector need to be updated to
reflect the changes in LC 9, but these paragraphs deal with the
interface rather than scripting. There is no plan to rewrite the book,
but I might eventually delete those paragraphs altogether if we ever get
to producing a fifth print run.

Here is some information that you may want to know about the book:
- the book is not available as an e-book and it won't be, please don't
ask for it;
- there are no plans to rewrite the book;
- we ship the book everywhere in the world, if we can physically get
there (deliveries to Antarctica will take a while though) and shipping
costs are included in the price;
- book shops and educational institutes and anyone ordering at least 10
copies may contact us for a discount;
- after you purchase the book, we will ask you to confirm your postal
address;
- if you don't get an e-mail after you purchase the book, contact us and
use a different e-mail address if you have tried to contact us before;
- you can win a free copy of the book (perhaps to give away to a friend)
by liking the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/LiveCode.Beginner
(but make sure to keep an eye on the page);
- please fill out our survey at
http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com/survey/ regardless of whether
you have purchased/are planning to purchase the book;
- if you have any more questions, please contact support [a t]
economy-x-talk.com

You can order the book at http://tinyurl.com/livecodebook and more info
is available at http://tinyurl.com/livecodeblog



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Re: new license type

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Yeah, I might do this, if they keep the license long enough for me to 
adjust my products.


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Op 13-Sep-17 om 19:48 schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:

Hey folks, what you all think about the new license?

I like it, I'll end up paying it before long, and I suspect a lot of people
will too. Good move by Livecode Inc.
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Re: [OT] Hello World

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Thanks. It is an interesting article. I tend to agree and I think it 
would be fun to give BBC Basic a try. The purpose may not always be to 
move on to other programming languages however and so I still might 
start with LiveCode right-away.


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Op 02-Sep-17 om 18:49 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

71

Richmond.

On 9/2/17 10:39 am, Mark Schonewille via use-livecode wrote:

Which page?

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Op 02-Sep-17 om 00:18 schreef Jim Lambert via use-livecode:

Richmond,

Congratulations on your Hello World article.
Very nice.

Jim Lambert

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Re: [OT] Hello World

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Which page?

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Op 02-Sep-17 om 00:18 schreef Jim Lambert via use-livecode:

Richmond,

Congratulations on your Hello World article.
Very nice.

Jim Lambert

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Book (If you're new to LiveCode...)

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Summer is nearing its end and schools are starting again. That seems a 
good moment to ask your attention for the book Programming LiveCode for 
the Real Beginner. I wrote this book in 2012-2013 and have sold numerous 
copies over the past 5 years --for which a big thank-you to the LiveCode 
community. Eventually, I decided to print a really huge pile, so it 
would never be out of stock and we'd be able to deliver immediately 
(depending on postal services and customs).


The fourth print of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner has been 
updated to include a number of new XML commands, which were introduced 
after the first release of the book. I have also added a few remarks 
about LiveCode 7 to the chapter on Unicode. Since the book deals with 
the basics of the LiveCode scripting language, which everybody needs to 
know, it continues to be very relevant, no matter which version of 
LiveCode you're using.


Only the paragraphs about the properties inspector need to be updated to 
reflect the changes in LC 9, but these paragraphs deal with the 
interface rather than scripting. There is no plan to rewrite the book, 
but I might eventually delete those paragraphs altogether if we ever get 
to producing a fifth print run.


Here is some information that you may want to know about the book:
- the book is not available as an e-book and it won't be, please don't 
ask for it;

- there are no plans to rewrite the book;
- we ship the book everywhere in the world, if we can physically get 
there (deliveries to Antarctica will take a while though) and shipping 
costs are included in the price;
- book shops and educational institutes and anyone ordering at least 10 
copies may contact us for a discount;
- after you purchase the book, we will ask you to confirm your postal 
address;
- if you don't get an e-mail after you purchase the book, contact us and 
use a different e-mail address if you have tried to contact us before;
- you can win a free copy of the book (perhaps to give away to a friend) 
by liking the Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/LiveCode.Beginner 
(but make sure to keep an eye on the page);
- please fill out our survey at 
http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com/survey/ regardless of whether 
you have purchased/are planning to purchase the book;
- if you have any more questions, please contact support [a t] 
economy-x-talk.com


You can order the book at http://tinyurl.com/livecodebook and more info 
is available at http://tinyurl.com/livecodeblog


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Re: on-rev servers

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I can still see your website.
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html
I just can't see Andre's website.

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Op 12-Aug-17 om 20:48 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

Are they dead, down, being maintained or otherwise as certainly
unable to get here:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com

Richmond.
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Re: Mysterious new MetaCard file

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I got it running in 5 minutes. The guy who uploaded it says he has removed all 
references to passwords. I have no idea why this was a problem for him, but it 
is nice that he returned the modified files as required by the oss licence.

⁣Verzonden door BlueMail ​

Op 8 jul. 2017 19:40, om 19:40, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 schreef:
>I have just received a note that a new file has been uploaded to
>the MetaCard Yahoo group:
>
>https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MC_IDE/conversations/messages
>
>from an email address rdbar...@sbcglobal.net
>
>This purports to be a new version of the mchome file . . .
>
>However I feel uncomfortable about it for a number of reasons:
>
>1. Who is "rdbar814" ?
>
>2. Why is there no adequate explanation as to what it really does, 
>because as far as I know
>there is no way to get metaCard running with an LC 8 or 9 engine?
>
>I have downloaded the ZIP file onto my Macintosh, but seriously wonder
>about the wisdom of unzipping it.
>
>Richmond.
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Re: Division by Zero Error

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Usually, I can predict that a numerator is going to be 0, e.g. in 
1/(x^2). I just check the value of the numerator before doing the division.


In rare cases, I can't predict the value of the numerator. In those 
cases, I put a try control structure around the offending lines and some 
code to clean up after the "final" line.


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Op 08-Jul-17 om 05:35 schreef Roger Guay via use-livecode:

I often find that I have to deal with a division by zero error message in 
plotting functions, solving equation etc. Are there methods or techniques used 
to programmatically handle or work-around a possible division by zero? e.g. If 
I want to evaluate y= 1/(x-3), what can I do to deal with a possible x=3 
situation?

Thanks for your help,

Roger
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Re: Capturing screen into image

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Set the lockLoc of the image to false. Set the text of the image to the 
PNG data (you're doing this correctly), but don't set the rect of the 
image first. If necessary, set the width of the image to the 
formattedWidth of the image and set the height of the image to the 
formattedHeight of the image.


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Op 30-Jun-17 om 20:38 schreef Terence Heaford via use-livecode:

This script does not work.

export snapshot from rectangle (the rect of widget "Browser") to pictVariable 
as PNG

set the rect of image "myImage" to the rect of widget "Browser"

put pictVariable into image "myImage"

print card from topleft of image "myImage" to bottomRight of image  “myImage"


After placing the captured image into “myImage” there is a grey bar at the top 
and the full width of the image is not visible.

Am I doing something wrong?


Thanks

Terry
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Re: Obtaining the "active" Desktop/Monitor under OSX?

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

If I execute this

put (the loc of this stack is within -1440,-132,0,768)

on my primary screen, I get false in the message box.

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Op 28-Jun-17 om 16:59 schreef Paul Dupuis via use-livecode:

I remember when the multiple Desktop feature was introduced on OSX
(Yosemite I think?) there was a very active discussion on this email
list about how to tell what monitor (in a multiple monitor
configuration) your application was starting up on.

I have tried searching for this but my search keyword choices (or search
skills) are failing me.

Does anyone remember how to do this? Or can point me to the
answer/workaround from the discussion?

OR has anything been added to the LiveCode language in 8.x.x+ that lets
an app tell what monitor it is starting up on? I check the 8.1.4
Dictionary, but I could not find anything.

The 1st line of the screenrects is the "primary" monitor, which with the
OSX feature is not necessarily the monitor the app is launching on
running on (it has its menubar on)

Thank you in advance for any pointers/guidance.


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Re: Petya attack

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Hi Richmond,

Probably not, because the offending file(s) need(s) to be installed in 
the Windows directory to be effective. A Mac doesn't have a Windows 
directory. Any guest OS's running in a virtual machine however may be 
affected.


I could imagine that other Office packages running on Windows machines 
may be vulnerable.


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Op 28-Jun-17 om 08:47 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

" This ransomware is exploiting a vulnerability in Microsoft Office when
handling RTF documents"

Although the article seems to say that this thing only affects Windows I
wonder whether this thing can
do damage to Macs via Microsoft Office for Mac or opening one of these
RTF documents with one of the
other Office suites?

Richmond.



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Re: Determining left or right movement in a mouseMove handler

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Hoping I didn't mix up the x's and y's, I believe the script you need 
looks like this:


local myOldX,myOldY
on mouseMove theNewX,theNewY
  if myOldX < theNewX then put
"right" into myMovement
  else
put "left" into myMoveMent
  end if
  if myOldY > myNewY then put
"down" into myMoveMent
  else
put "up" into myMoveMent
  end if
  // do something with right, left,
  // up and down here.
  put theNewX into myOldX
  put theNewY into myOldY
  pass mouseMove
end mouseMove


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Op 27-Jun-17 om 12:32 schreef Michael Kristensen via use-livecode:

Hi there

How can I determine if the mouse is moving left or right (or up or down) on the 
screen in a mouseMove handler?

Not just from the outset (that is easy) but at any moment, like when a user 
changes his mind and move the opposite way.

Something like put x into oldX will not work.

Thanks
Michael
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Re: RIP Dan Shafer

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Quartam is not by Dan but by Jan Schenkel.

Let me use this opportunity to express my sympathy for Dan's family.

Also, there is a fund raiser that might be of interest to readers of 
this list.

https://www.gofundme.com/dans-next-adventure

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Op 22-Jun-17 om 14:27 schreef Roger Eller via use-livecode:

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


We lost Dan Shafer yesterday. He did a lot for LiveCode. I’m sure anybody
who met him will miss him.
.Jerry



I have been learning from Dans books
 since I started with
HyperCard, and I recently completed a project which uses his Quartum
PDFLibrary .  Saddened
by the news of his passing, he will be remembered.

~Roger
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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I use a G4 Quicksilver as a server. I have taken it apart and put it back 
together several times, something I can't do with a Mac Mini or MacBook. I use 
Revolution 4.x for special server tasks. It would be convenient if I could use 
the latest version of LiveCode to build not only for Windows, Linux and Intel 
Macs but also for PowerMac. Obviously it would be cool if I could use all 
features of LiveCode 9 on the PowerMac, but I'd be happy already with just the 
possibility to build standalones for OSX 10.4. 


⁣Verzonden door BlueMail ​

Op 8 jun. 2017 12:06, om 12:06, Richmond via use-livecode 
 schreef:
>So, backwards compatibility does not interest you?
>
>I, for one, run Mac Machines running MacOS 10.4 PPC.
>
>A lot of these machine are being dumped in poor countries where they
>can 
>be used
>for good purposes.
>
>Richmond.
>
>On 08/06/17 09:19, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
>> On 2017-06-07 21:59, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>>> I disagree as there are plenty of Macs "out there" in the worldthat
>>> run 32-bit systems.
>>
>> Not that LiveCode supports.
>>
>>> Far better to have BOTH possibilities checked as default.
>>
>> Only if there existed a Mac which can run LiveCode but cannot run 
>> 64-bit apps - which is the case for LiveCode 9.x as it supports
>10.9+.
>>
>> Indeed it would be far better to have no possibility at all (simpler)
>
>> - just build for 64-bit since...
>>
>> 64-bit support has been around since 10.6, at that time there were 
>> machines which could run 10.6 which were 32-bit only.
>>
>> However, all macs which will run 10.7 will run 64-bit apps.
>>
>> Therefore, if LiveCode only supports 10.7 and above, then LiveCode
>and 
>> any apps you build with it need only be 64-bit.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>
>
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Re: Rooting around in the Forum: destructors

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Short answer: LiveCode doesn't have destructors because the xTalk family 
of languages doesn't require them. xTalk languages make the life of the 
developer easier by taking such tasks our of their hands.


1a) Yes, under the hood, because LiveCode is written using variants of 
C, which are object oriented. So, LiveCode is creating and deleting 
(destructing) objects continuously, but the LiveCode developer/user 
doesn't need to be bothered with that.


1b) You could make sure to write clean scripts that always delete 
controls (and even cards and stacks) and variables that are no longer 
needed. LiveCode does a good job cleaning up after finishing a handler, 
so it isn't really necessary to do this yourself, but if you are 
creating controls that you need only one time, it is probably a good 
idea to delete them afterwards. When you delete a control, an object 
under the hood is no longer required and will be "destroyed" at some point.


2) It is in the object-oriented language that is used to create 
LiveCode. There is also a delete command in the LiveCode scripting 
language. The delete command isn't a destructor, but it does provide a 
form a cleaning up.


3) Most of the cleaning up is done automatically. Local variables that 
are used by one handler only, are deleted automatically. Moreover, the 
LiveCode scripting language isn't an object-oriented language, even 
though some people may try to make you believe otherwise and some other 
people wish it were. Really, it isn't. Because the language isn't 
object-oriented, it doesn't need a destructor.



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Op 03-Jun-17 om 18:46 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=8=29319

Not having looked at any sort of "serious" programming language since
about 1989 (I don't think that VB 6 is a serious language),
I find it hard to understand what a destructor is beyond a way to free
memory on a system that has constraints in that area.

HOWEVER: as there is no thing in Livecode having "destrucor" written all
over it in big letters for slow characters
like myself could some one tell me:

1. Does Livecode have something(s) that does the job of a destructor?

2. If so, where is it and so on?

3. If not, why not?

Richmond.
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Re: forcing a number to be interpreted as a field name

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

You shouldn't use numbers and constants as names for fields. One and 1 
are identical and field "one" as well as field "1" may be interpreted as 
the first field rather than the field with name "one" or "1".


Instead always start control names with a letter or a symbol that isn't 
a number. For example, you could start all names with n and write a loop 
like


repeat with x = 1 to 10
  set the numberformat to "00"
  put fld ("n" & x*1) into myValue
  -- do something with myValue here
end repeat

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Op 31-May-17 om 01:59 schreef Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode:

I have, due to the government's wisdom, checkboxes I have to use to display
numeric values.  I've created my own to make them the right size, and to
function as parts of groups.

But looping through, with the fields in these things named for the possible
values (usually text), I have to refer to them.

So I have value of  (0,1,2) for one of these


I need to loop through these values to set the field with the corresponding
name.

Having a value of zero in vl, how do can I refer to the field named "0" in
group tgGrp?

When this isn't a calculated value, I do it by name (zero, one, etc.), but
that isn't an option sometimes.



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Re: Open Inv Stack on iPhone

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Assuming that you don't need to display the stack, you could use

start using stack “/folder/folder/stackName.rev"

and reference any objects and scripts in the stack.

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Op 25-May-17 om 22:59 schreef Dan Friedman via use-livecode:

Does anyone have any insight about this….  If you open a stack file on an 
iPhone invisibly, the app crashes.  For example:

  open inv stack “/folder/folder/stackName.rev"

This works fine on windows, mac, and an iPad.  But, on a iPhone (real device or 
simulator) it crashes.  Any thoughts?  Or perhaps a workaround?

The file and the path are good. I know this because if I open the stack without 
“inv”, it opens just fine.

LC 8.1.3
iOS 10.3.1

FYI, the goal is to get the stack file open and in memory so I can call it 
later.  But, I don’t want to see it open.

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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Re: Alan's problem

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Definitely.

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Op 30-Apr-17 om 12:27 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

Is LiveCode Turing complete?

Richmond.
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Re: sims' spotty dog

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

It looks to me like at least one of the original e-mails came from a 
server in Vietnam while Sims server seems to be located in Texas and his 
home is on an island. I'd say there is little Sims can do about it.


If his e-mail address were to be disabled, the spammers would simply 
spoof someone else's address. A solution might be to apply Spamcop 
filters, but many people, including those with OnRev accounts, are on 
shared servers and will often get blocked by Spamcop and still be unable 
to stop the spam.


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Op 30-Apr-17 om 09:37 schreef Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode:

Possibly the simplest solution would be for Sims to set up another
e-mail account.

Richmond.

On 4/29/17 8:59 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> Why has nothing been done about this?

A less presumptuous question might have been:

"What has been done about this?"

...for which the answer would be that I wrote Sims about it the other
day, and he replied to let me know he's written Heather about it.

The precise nature of the problem is unclear to me at this time, given
how frequently mail headers are forged, making it possible that
they're not coming from his account at all.

May take them a bit longer to sort out, but they're working on it.



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Re: How many words from start of text to my selection

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

HYi Kaveh,

LiveCode sets the focus to the clicked object after running the scripts. 
If I would select text the normal way, the selection would be deselected 
again, because the focus would go away from the field to the button 
containing the script. Using the send in time command, I make sure that 
this command is executed after LiveCode completes its routines, also 
after LiveCode sets the focus.


If you use a different way to execute the script rather then from a 
button or other object that is activated by a click, you won't need this 
last line.


Moreover, sometimes I have this problem and sometimes not. I haven't 
figured out why. At least, when it occurs, there is a way to solve it.


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Op 22-Apr-17 om 16:05 schreef Kaveh Bazargan:

Wonderful :-)

Can you give me a hint of this line please:

send "select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1" to me in 0 millisecs

Why not just

select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1"

On 22 April 2017 at 12:33, Mark Schonewille via use-livecode <
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This tells you the number of the selected word:

on mouseUp
   put the selectedChunk into myChunk
   put word 4 of myChunk into myChunk
   put the number of words of char 1 to myChunk of fld 1
   send "select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1" to me in 0 millisecs
end mouseUp

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Op 22-Apr-17 om 13:18 schreef Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode:


I have selected some text in a field. I want to convert that to "word xxx
of fld yyy". Any hints on how I do that?



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Re: How many words from start of text to my selection

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

This tells you the number of the selected word:

on mouseUp
   put the selectedChunk into myChunk
   put word 4 of myChunk into myChunk
   put the number of words of char 1 to myChunk of fld 1
   send "select word" && myChunk && "of fld 1" to me in 0 millisecs
end mouseUp

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Op 22-Apr-17 om 13:18 schreef Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode:

I have selected some text in a field. I want to convert that to "word xxx
of fld yyy". Any hints on how I do that?



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Re: Is there a Macintosh equivalent to relaunch on Windows?

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Yes, just put $0, $1 etc.

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Op 27-Mar-17 om 21:53 schreef Bill Vlahos via use-livecode:

I use relaunch on Windows standalone to accept command line arguments.

Is there an equivalent for a Macintosh standalone to do this?

Thanks,
Bill Vlahos

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Re: Allowed Orientations failing on mobile in 9dp5?

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Thanks foe pointing out that it works in 8.1.3. At the conference, we 
tried quite a few versions and none worked. This must be a bug.


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Op 11-Mar-17 om 06:03 schreef Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode:

This used to work on 8.1.3

on preopenStack
   command sivasiva_InitOrientation "landscape"
end preopenstack

#with these in a library that was started on init.. (i.e. effectively a 
backscript)

command sivasiva_InitOrientation orientationType
if the environment is not "mobile" then return false
set the fullscreenmode of this stack to "showAll" -- better for wider screens
mobile_SetAllowedOrientation orientationType
end sivasiva_InitOrientation

command mobile_SetAllowedOrientation orientationType
if the environment is not "mobile" then return empty
switch orientationType
case "portrait"
put "portrait,portrait upside down" into allowedOrientations
break
case "landscape"
put "landscape left,landscape right" into allowedOrientations
break
default -- allow all, ignoring face up/down
put "portrait,portrait upside down,landscape left,landscape right" into 
allowedOrientations
end switch
mobileSetAllowedOrientations allowedOrientations
return allowedOrientations
end mobile_SetAllowedOrientation


This use to force a new stack open in the app to "go sideways" even if the user was 
holding the phone "upright"

but now standalones built with 9dp5… the stack opens small in portrait mode

is this happening for anyone else?

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Re: IOS Provisioning Profile... again

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

If you don't want to renew the certificates every year, you can move to 
Android. Users of Android phones can (temporarily) allow for the 
installation of apk's from unknown sources (i.e. signed for development 
only).


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Op 10-Mar-17 om 03:03 schreef Mark Smith via use-livecode:

Just a further question to this thread. Is it possible to deploy (without
going through the app store) and not have to renew the certificates every
year? It's a major bane to have to update these things all the time.

Thanks

Mark



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Re: [ANN] conference - tickets sent

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Beste Dirk,

Ik zal je off-list nog even een mailtje sturen.

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Op 24-Feb-17 om 01:17 schreef Dirk prive via use-livecode:

Ik zie niet direct mijn ticket?
Groeten,
Dirk Cleenwerck


On Feb 23, 2017 23:39, "Mark Schonewille via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


The tickets for the eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode have
been sent. Everyone who ordered a ticket until yesterday should have
received it by now. Obviously, if you didn't, you should contact me
right-away.

If you regret not having bought a ticket, you can still do so until we
disable this feature of the website. However, you might want to send me an
e-mail or call first.

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[ANN] conference - tickets sent

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

The tickets for the eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode have 
been sent. Everyone who ordered a ticket until yesterday should have 
received it by now. Obviously, if you didn't, you should contact me 
right-away.


If you regret not having bought a ticket, you can still do so until we 
disable this feature of the website. However, you might want to send me 
an e-mail or call first.


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Re: [ANN] About the conference in Antwerp

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Hi,

Please note: today is the last possibility to register for the eHUG 
International Mini Conference on LiveCode in Antwerp, Belgium.


I have updated the website. Please go to
http://economy-x-talk.com/conf/

We're still looking for speakers. If you want to share your ideas or are 
looking for advice, this is your opportunity.


We're expecting people from the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and 
Switzerland. Given the current location, Antwerp, this conference is an 
ideal opportunity to meet with other LiveCode programmers, if you're in 
the North of France. Please, consider participating.


The website uses PayPal to handle the registration fee. If this isn't a 
good option for you, contact me. Got any more questions? Just send me an 
e-mail.


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Op 19-Feb-17 om 13:10 schreef Mark Schonewille:

Hello,

Next week is the 'eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode'. The
conference will take place on 25th February from 13:00h. until 18:00h.
The conference room is open from 12:00h. The location is the Ibis hotel,
Meistraat 39 in Antwerp, Belgium.

Participation is only possible if you purchase a ticket no later than
22nd February. The tickets will be sent to you later this week. There
are 20 tickets available. If you want to be sure of a ticket, you'll
need to act quickly.

The prices of the tickets are listed on the website. Additionally,
non-alcoholic beverages are available for 6 euro per person. Coffee and
tea are available from a dispenser (for which my apologies). If any
budget is left, it will be spent on additional drinks or perhaps on
dinner afterwards.

Everything we need is available: WIFI, a beamer with VGA connection,
electricity, at least one extra laptop, drinks, etc. If you have any
special requests, just let me know.

We need more speakers! You can tell something about your own project,
private or professional, for which you have created a liveCode stack. If
you use a different platform, such as SuperCard, Filemaker, HyperStudio
or Xojo, you're very welcome to tell us about it.

Do you think you're not so good at making presentations? Organise a
workshop instead! Just show us how you work with your favorite tool and
if you like, or if you can, invite your public to join.

Please indicate that you're a speaker when you buy a ticket. You will
receive a discount. A discount is also available if you buy the book
Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.

After the formal part of the conference, we may have dinner together.
The next day, we might have a social event before going home. We will
organise this on the spot.

I hope to have informed you sufficiently. Just send me an e-mail
right-away if you have any questions and I'll reply as soon as I can.

More information at http://economy-x-talk.com/conf



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[ANN] Conference - book your hotel

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Dear conference participants,

I would like to thank all early birds for registering for the eHUG 
International Mini Confernece on LiveCode.


Some of you may have ordered a hotel already, while others are still 
contemplating what to do. Because I have received a few questions about 
this, here is a little information about hotels.


First of all, the location of the conference is the Ibis hotel, 
Meistraat 9 in Antwerp, Belgium. A room in this hotel costs 
approximately 90 euro. More info about the hotel is available here 
http://tinyurl.com/za4o9ou


If you want a little more luxury, you might prefer the Leonardo hotel, 
which is close enough to the conference location to go there on foot. 
The price difference between the hotels is very small.

More info: http://leonardo-antwerpen.hotels-antwerpen.net/nl/#rooms

Please note: registration for the conference closes tomorrow. Please, 
make sure to register on time. Tickets are still available at

http://economy-x-talk.com/conf/

If you prefer not to use PayPal or a credit card to book your conference 
ticket, just contact me and we'll try to find an alternative that works 
for you.


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[ANN] About the conference in Antwerp

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hello,

Next week is the 'eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode'. The 
conference will take place on 25th February from 13:00h. until 18:00h. 
The conference room is open from 12:00h. The location is the Ibis hotel, 
Meistraat 39 in Antwerp, Belgium.


Participation is only possible if you purchase a ticket no later than 
22nd February. The tickets will be sent to you later this week. There 
are 20 tickets available. If you want to be sure of a ticket, you'll 
need to act quickly.


The prices of the tickets are listed on the website. Additionally, 
non-alcoholic beverages are available for 6 euro per person. Coffee and 
tea are available from a dispenser (for which my apologies). If any 
budget is left, it will be spent on additional drinks or perhaps on 
dinner afterwards.


Everything we need is available: WIFI, a beamer with VGA connection, 
electricity, at least one extra laptop, drinks, etc. If you have any 
special requests, just let me know.


We need more speakers! You can tell something about your own project, 
private or professional, for which you have created a liveCode stack. If 
you use a different platform, such as SuperCard, Filemaker, HyperStudio 
or Xojo, you're very welcome to tell us about it.


Do you think you're not so good at making presentations? Organise a 
workshop instead! Just show us how you work with your favorite tool and 
if you like, or if you can, invite your public to join.


Please indicate that you're a speaker when you buy a ticket. You will 
receive a discount. A discount is also available if you buy the book 
Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner.


After the formal part of the conference, we may have dinner together. 
The next day, we might have a social event before going home. We will 
organise this on the spot.


I hope to have informed you sufficiently. Just send me an e-mail 
right-away if you have any questions and I'll reply as soon as I can.


More information at http://economy-x-talk.com/conf

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[ANN] A quick note about the conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Hi,

The eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode will take place on 
25th February between 13:00 and 18:00 at the Ibis hotel in the city 
centre of Antwerp. Address: Meistraat 39, Antwerp, Belgium.


Reasonably prices rooms are still available. Book those on the Ibis website.

More information is available at http://economy-x-talk.com/conf
Keep an eye on the website as we're updating.

After the conference, we'll go somewhere for dinner and socialising. We 
might also arrange something for the next day.


More info will follow soon.

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Re: International LiveCode Mini Conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

The LiveCode conference in Antwerp will take place on 25th February
2017. Please, reserve the date in your agenda. More information will
follow shortly.


Kind regards,

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Op 09-Jan-17 om 13:36 schreef Mark Schonewille via use-livecode:

International LiveCode Mini Conference

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini
Conference has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined.
The conference has been planned to take place during the weekends of
18 or 25 February.

While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, it should be
clear that anyone with an interest in rapid application development
is invited: database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard
aficionados, and anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative
with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference
approaches, we will have all information available.

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of
four times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there
will be plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and
discuss any topic you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate
participation by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're
also invited if you live in a different country.

We're planning to rent a small conference room. Therefore, there will
be a small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with
invoice).  If you want to host a workshop or give a presentation,
you'll be eligible for a discount. Since fees are small, discounts
will be small too.

Possible topics: - Getting started with LiveCode - Advanced LiveCode
scripting - Widgets - Arduino and Raspberry Pi - Usage in real life
(home and business) - DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others) -
FileMaker - SuperCard - HyperStudio - Xojo - PHP - other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy
to help you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and
other expenses will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a
reply before Friday 13th if you're interested (you can reply to my
personal address, in the "reply-to" header, please don't reply to the
mailing list). Next weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the
opportunity and make sure you're there! It is going to be special for
sure!

-- Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:
http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553

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Re: [ANN] Important: reply before friday - conference!

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

We really need 4 or 5 more participants to make the conference possible. 
If you are planning to go, let me know! If you know someone else who 
might go, ask him or her to send me a message.


Kind regards,

Mark Schonewille
http://economy-x-talk.com
https://www.facebook.com/marksch

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Op 12-Jan-17 om 00:42 schreef Mark Schonewille:

International LiveCode Mini Conference

- Time and date are still preliminary!
- Make sure to send a message to me on Friday or earlier if you're
interested!
- decisions are made over the weekend, depending on feedback!

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini
Conference has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The
conference has been planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or
25 February.

PLEASE NOTE: While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference,
anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited:
database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and
anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference
approaches, we will have all information available.

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of
four times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there
will be plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and
discuss any topic you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate
participation by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're
also invited if you live in a different country.

We're planning to rent a conference room. Therefore, there will be a
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If
you want to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible
for a discount. Since fees are small, discounts will be small too.

Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to
help you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other
expenses will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a
reply to support (at) economy-x-talk.com before Friday 13th if you're
interested. This weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity
and make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!



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[ANN] Important: reply before friday - conference!

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

International LiveCode Mini Conference

- Time and date are still preliminary!
- Make sure to send a message to me on Friday or earlier if you're 
interested!

- decisions are made over the weekend, depending on feedback!

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini 
Conference has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The 
conference has been planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or 
25 February.


PLEASE NOTE: While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, 
anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited: 
database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and 
anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative with computers.


All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference 
approaches, we will have all information available.


The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're 
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of 
four times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there 
will be plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and 
discuss any topic you like.


The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate 
participation by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're 
also invited if you live in a different country.


We're planning to rent a conference room. Therefore, there will be a 
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If 
you want to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible 
for a discount. Since fees are small, discounts will be small too.


Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to 
help you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other 
expenses will be on your own account.


We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a 
reply to support (at) economy-x-talk.com before Friday 13th if you're 
interested. This weekend, all decisions will be made final.


This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity 
and make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!


--
Kind regards,

Mark Schonewille
http://economy-x-talk.com
https://www.facebook.com/marksch

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Re: International LiveCode Mini Conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

Probably not. It is just too much work to organise. Perhaps someone else 
wants to take up the challenge, but for now I'd say you'll have to be there.


Kind regards,

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Op 09-Jan-17 om 19:26 schreef ** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode:

I hope that this will recorded and that any recordings would be made
available to the rest of the LiveCoders.

Sincerely,

Clarence Martin
Email: chi...@themartinz.com
Cell: 626 6965561

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Subject: International LiveCode Mini Conference

International LiveCode Mini Conference

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini Conference
has been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The conference has
been planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or 25 February.

While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, it should be clear
that anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited:
database admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and
anyone who is looking for new ways to be creative with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference approaches, we
will have all information available.

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're
planning simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of four
times two simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there will be
plenty of opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and discuss any topic
you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate participation
by British, French and German people. Obviously, you're also invited if you
live in a different country.

We're planning to rent a small conference room. Therefore, there will be a
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If you
want to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible for a
discount. Since fees are small, discounts will be small too.

Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to help
you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other expenses
will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a reply
before Friday 13th if you're interested (you can reply to my personal
address, in the "reply-to" header, please don't reply to the mailing list).
Next weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity and
make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

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International LiveCode Mini Conference

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

International LiveCode Mini Conference

In the second half of February, an international LiveCode Mini Conference has 
been scheduled. The dates are still to be determined. The conference has been 
planned to take place during the weekends of 18 or 25 February.

While the conference is called a "LiveCode" conference, it should be clear that 
anyone with an interest in rapid application development is invited: database 
admins, Filemaker users, Xojo fans, SuperCard aficionados, and anyone who is 
looking for new ways to be creative with computers.

All information is preliminary. As the date of the conference approaches, we 
will have all information available. 

The conference will consist of one day with multiple sessions. We're planning 
simultaneous workshops and presentations. We're thinking of four times two 
simultaneous sessions of 30 minutes. Afterwards, there will be plenty of 
opportunity to meet with fellow programmers and discuss any topic you like.

The conference will be held in Antwerp, Belgium, to facilitate participation by 
British, French and German people. Obviously, you're also invited if you live 
in a different country.

We're planning to rent a small conference room. Therefore, there will be a 
small fee of approximately 35 euro (including VAT, with invoice).  If you want 
to host a workshop or give a presentation, you'll be eligible for a discount. 
Since fees are small, discounts will be small too. 

Possible topics:
- Getting started with LiveCode
- Advanced LiveCode scripting
- Widgets
- Arduino and Raspberry Pi
- Usage in real life (home and business)
- DBMS (MySQL, PostGreSQL, XML, others)
- FileMaker
- SuperCard
- HyperStudio
- Xojo
- PHP
- other subjects

You might want to spend one or two nights in a hotel. We'll be happy to help 
you find board and lodgings. The hotel room, drinks, food and other expenses 
will be on your own account.

We would like to know how many people are interested. Please, send a reply 
before Friday 13th if you're interested (you can reply to my personal address, 
in the "reply-to" header, please don't reply to the mailing list). Next 
weekend, all decisions will be made final.

This might be the only edition of this conference! Grab the opportunity and 
make sure you're there! It is going to be special for sure!

--
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Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

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Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I saw this and had to think of your post, Tom.

http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-08

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Op 06-Jan-17 om 23:17 schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:

gotta say... looking at livecode.com it  is very clear that livecode is
nearly hoping that people won't notice that there is an open source version
and buy a license because they didn't know any better.

shadyshady.. almost understandable, but why go open source if you
gonna pretend like you aren't?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Keith Martin  wrote:


On 4 Jan 2017, at 14:11, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

What this message should tell the people on the mother-ship is that they

need to shout a bit louder
about the Open Source version



Amen! The FOSS, Community edition is a great thing, and it's

It'd also be great if the mother ship would also consider, one day, a more
inexpensive way to step up to the level where App Store submission is
possible, perhaps as a short-term (say, 1 month?) window, bundled with
advice for efficient App Store submission? Perhaps something similar for
HTML5 publication in the future? LC is wonderful, but it is feeling more
and more like a product with a 'keep out, professionals only' label on the
virtual box... :-/

Me, I'd SO glad I got Indy in time to keep annual cost just about
affordable. I make peanuts (at most!) from what I build, but that's not the
point for me; it's just too much fun not to be part of the LC builder
community. I did once hope HTML5 would be available as part of that, but
sadly it's separate. :(

k

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