Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Alex Shaw]

Hi Lynn

Also, will/is it compatible with revmobile?

regards
alex


On 5/10/10 9:02 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

Lynn,

Really amazing. Even if i got exactly the same beta-glichies exposed by Bob, 
Franklin Audio seems very promising (OS X 10.6.4 MBP i7 15"). Will it be way to 
run it from within the webPlugin ?

Best Regards,

Pierre


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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Mark Wieder]

Ruslan-

Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 9:27:09 PM, you wrote:

> On 10/6/10 4:29 AM, "Mark Wieder"  wrote:
> There are TWO folders installed

Ah... OK. I must be getting tired.
Found the installer stack, ran it. Seemed OK, but just sat there on
the screen. I shut down the IDE, not saving changes. I hope that was
correct. Then I loaded the example stack and pressed buttons. Still no
sound, though.

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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Andre Garzia]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Pierre Sahores  wrote:

> Lynn,
>
> Really amazing. Even if i got exactly the same beta-glichies exposed by
> Bob, Franklin Audio seems very promising (OS X 10.6.4 MBP i7 15"). Will it
> be way to run it from within the webPlugin ?
>

the webplugin has no support for externals at this time.


>
> Best Regards,
>
> Pierre
>
>
> Le 4 oct. 2010 à 22:50, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
>
> > Hiya.
> >
> > First time I opened the demo stack (I had forgotten to quit LiveCode)
> LiveCode crashed to desktop. First time I clicked Initialize in the demo
> stack, in Source Sharing Buffers, nothing came out and I got "Error
> generating audio source." in the log field. After stopping and initializing
> a second time all audio seemed to play fine.
> >
> > Very exciting btw.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available
> on
> >> the Franklin 3D website:
> >>
> >> Windows:
> >>
> >> http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_liv_11_win.exe
> >>
> >> Mac OS X:
> >>
> >> http://franklin3d.com/download/beta/audio/franklin_audio_rev_11_mac.dmg
> >>
> >> So far, playback has worked just fine - except on my own favorite XP Pro
> >> machine. If you are interested in this product, help us make it great by
> >> downloading and giving it a try. There are currently two simple examples
> >> included.
> >>
> >> Installation can be a two step process:
> >>
> >> 1) Download and run the installer, like you expect
> >> 2) Navigate to the Paradigma Software directory where you'll find an
> >> install.rev stack. Open and run it. This points your install of LiveCode
> to
> >> the directory.
> >> 3) Shut down and restart LiveCode.
> >> 4) Open up the Examples stack. If you get a code error, it should be
> fine -
> >> its protesting a lack of serial code.
> >>
> >> Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we
> are
> >> talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to
> deliver
> >> multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Lynn Fredricks
> >> President
> >> Paradigma Software
> >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> >>
> >> Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server
> >>
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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Sivakatirswami]

 On 10/4/10 10:08 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:

Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks

Aloha Lynn - Ruslan

"Look Ma no Quicktime!" -- wonderful initiative!

Platform: LiveCode 4.5; Mac OS X 10.6.4


installed to my hard drive... I moved it to /Documents/Paradigama 
Software (as I had this already from the bundle you sent last year for 
those who bought that package Rev was selling then)


I ran the install: a copy of the external was placed in:

/Documents/My LiveCode/Externals/FranklinAudio.bundle

quit LiveCode, double clicked your demo, it invoked an old Revolution in 
my apps folder and did not work. I quit. Opened it in LiveCode and from 
the pull down menu FancyPants.wav plays fine, but the Source Sharing 
Buffers does not... I initialized the OpenAL buffers, but clicking on 
"Rain" (or any other source)


-- Will add a new water drop source to the audio scene.
function AddSource  type1
   -- Create source
   get alGenSources(1, "Source");  # breaks on this line

If I leave the substack open and click "Stop"

I get a script error thrown here:

function KillALData
   put Sources_idx-1 into Sources_idx
   //repeat while (Sources_idx > 0)

  get alDeleteSources(Sources_idx, "Sources");  # breaks on this line
  //put Sources_idx-1 into Sources_idx

I tried to quit LiveCode, but the IDE is frozen now, spinning beachball 
cursor. check Processes, LiveCode not responding. I force quit


I restart LiveCode, open your demo, FancyPants plays fine. Choose 02. 
Sources Sharing Buffers. Click Initialize... no error... choose Rain.. 
nothing happens, click on Water Drops... no script error window but the 
status window displays "Error generating audio source."   clicking on 
other choices nothing happens click twice on any of them (Wind Chimes, 
Rolling Thunder) etc...


Error generating audio source
Error generating audio source
Error generating audio source

click start: clears the status feedback field but nothing plays. I quit 
the demo. This time LiveCode does not hang.












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Re: HTML Text and Images

[Andre Garzia]

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ray Horsley  wrote:

>  If
> worse comes to worse I can always just keep the image I create to get the
> dimensions, resize it and use it instead.
>

I think this is the only way.

If you'd go with RevBrowser you could set image attribute such as height and
width in the img tag but HTMLText does not work like that. Heck, I wish it
was not called HTMLText but SGMLText or something like FancyTaggedText



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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 10/6/10 4:29 AM, "Mark Wieder"  wrote:

> Ruslan-
> 
> I should have followed the directions after rebooting .
> 
> I got disgusted and uninstalled. Then I saw your note, reinstalled,
> and there's no rev stack. There's a folder called "franklin_audio_liv"
> and in that is an "OpenAL" folder, something named "pathman.exe", and
> the uninstaller files. Uninstalling does a good job of getting rid of
> the folder and all its files, but installing afterwards seems messed
> up.

There are TWO folders installed

1) one you mention above is:

/Program Files/Paradigma Software / franklin_audio_liv

2) second I did mention in prev letter

  My Documents / Paradigma Software / FranklinAudio


Examples, and install.rev are in the second folder.


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Re: sorting html text with arrays

[Mark Swindell]

Excellent question, and one I only thought of after posting mine!  There would 
need to be a series of precedence rules, and I don't know them.  

But to simplify, let's say you had unique examples of styled tex, and t that 
you wanted to maintain their styles.  For example, in this mini-dictionary I've 
got 26 (almost) unique headings:  A B C D... etc. bold, larger font, 
underlined.  I want them to maintain their integrity while adding in a batch of 
new words.  Would it be possible to sort while leaving alone the htmlText 
characteristics of first instance items in a field such as this?

Mark


On Oct 5, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote:

> Hi, Mark.  What are the rules for handling words that appear with more than
> one style?
> 
> -- Dick 
> 
> 
> On 10/5/10 11:40 AM, "Mark Swindell"  wrote:
> 
>> I'm using the following script to create a glossary/word list of all words
>> appearing in a songbook I'm making in Apple's Pages word processor (over 
>> 2,000
>> unique words).   (Thanks to Phil Davis for his help with arrays.)
>> 
>> What I am wondering is if the formatted text can be retained in a case like
>> this, and how.  My attempts so far have failed, as the htmlText tags are
>> included in the sort... not what I want.)  I'd like to be able to paste in
>> from the word processor and do the sort while maintaining formatting (bold,
>> font, font size), and then be able to take that result and copy and paste it
>> back into the word processor.
>> 
>> Am I asking too much?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Mark
>> 
>> on mouseUp
>>   repeat for each word tWord in tStripEm
>>add 1 to aWordCounts[tWord]
>>   end repeat
>>   put the keys of aWordCounts into tList
>>   sort lines of tList
>>   put tList into field "sorted3"
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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Mark Wieder]

Ruslan-

I should have followed the directions after rebooting .

I got disgusted and uninstalled. Then I saw your note, reinstalled,
and there's no rev stack. There's a folder called "franklin_audio_liv"
and in that is an "OpenAL" folder, something named "pathman.exe", and
the uninstaller files. Uninstalling does a good job of getting rid of
the folder and all its files, but installing afterwards seems messed
up.

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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Tim Selander]

I've had good luck with Prosoft's 'Data Rescue' program, on disks 
that even Disk Warrior could not fix. "Data Rescue" does not 
attempt to fix the drive, just scans it and copies off anything 
it can salvage to another drive. Takes hours, but recovered a lot 
of stuff for me.




Good luck!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 10/6/10 6:00 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

Hey all,

well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from
the macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone knows
a recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a leg, I´d
appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred.

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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[-=>JB<=-]

Stellar Phoenix might recover your files.

http://www.stellarinfo.com/mac-data-recovery.htm

-=>JB<=-



On Oct 5, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

> Malte,
> 
> DiskWarrior 4 is able to read from crashed disks in handling them as 
> read-only devices. Saved me in twice different occasions, in exactly the same 
> situation you describe in recovering/backuping 100% of the crashed internal 
> 2.5 HD of two old Macs.
> 
> It's just long to do the work 3 or 4 hours for 300 Go or so. Price is around 
> 100 US $. I warmly recommand you to try this before anything else.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Pierre
> 
> Le 5 oct. 2010 à 23:00, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from the 
>> macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone knows a 
>> recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a leg, I´d 
>> appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Dar Scott]

On Oct 5, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Terry Judd wrote:

If you disk is dodgy but not completely stuffed you might have some  
success
connecting it to another Mac in Firewire target disk mode or by  
starting it
up from the install DVD, firing up the terminal and using ditto to  
copy

stuff across to an external hard drive.


The firewire target disk mode might also be a way to access the drive  
from the rescue computer.


I'm always finding new ways to use target disk mode.

Dar

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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Bob Sneidar]

Well I am getting in on this late, but it all depends on whether or not you can 
get the drive to show up at all in Disk Utility. You should have the installer 
disks that came with your Mac, so if you don't have another bootable OS X 
volume you can use that. 

Now the question is, does the Mac see a partition? If the disk does not show up 
at all in Disk Utility, or if Disk Utility cannot see a partition, then I do 
not think that Diskwarrior can recover that. I do not think any software can 
recover the drive if the actual drive itself is not visible to the hardware. 

So now you are looking at either a clean room disassembly and recovery, which 
can be dicey especially in the case of a head crash, or else you may find 
someone who can replace the controller on the drive (if that is the problem) at 
which point the data should be fully recoverable, assuming no physical damage 
has been done. 

You may be able to send the drive into the manufacturer and for a fee get them 
to replace the controller. I am not sure if all the manufacturers will do this 
for you, but I know a few of them will. Just specify that you do NOT want the 
data erased. They may even do a recovery for you. 

So it just depends on what is wrong. If the drive has to be disassembled in a 
clean room, you are likely to have to lose limbs if you want your data back. 
Otherwise, there are some options that are fairly economical. 

Bob


On Oct 5, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

> Malte,
> 
> DiskWarrior 4 is able to read from crashed disks in handling them as 
> read-only devices. Saved me in twice different occasions, in exactly the same 
> situation you describe in recovering/backuping 100% of the crashed internal 
> 2.5 HD of two old Macs.
> 
> It's just long to do the work 3 or 4 hours for 300 Go or so. Price is around 
> 100 US $. I warmly recommand you to try this before anything else.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Pierre
> 
> Le 5 oct. 2010 à 23:00, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from the 
>> macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone knows a 
>> recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a leg, I´d 
>> appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Pierre Sahores]

Malte,

Your backup system is not a time machine config ?

Pierre

Le 5 oct. 2010 à 23:00, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :

> Hey all,
> 
> well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from the 
> macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone knows a 
> recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a leg, I´d 
> appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred.
> 
> All the best,
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Re: sorting html text with arrays

[Dick Kriesel]

Hi, Mark.  What are the rules for handling words that appear with more than
one style?

-- Dick 


On 10/5/10 11:40 AM, "Mark Swindell"  wrote:

> I'm using the following script to create a glossary/word list of all words
> appearing in a songbook I'm making in Apple's Pages word processor (over 2,000
> unique words).   (Thanks to Phil Davis for his help with arrays.)
> 
> What I am wondering is if the formatted text can be retained in a case like
> this, and how.  My attempts so far have failed, as the htmlText tags are
> included in the sort... not what I want.)  I'd like to be able to paste in
> from the word processor and do the sort while maintaining formatting (bold,
> font, font size), and then be able to take that result and copy and paste it
> back into the word processor.
> 
> Am I asking too much?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
> on mouseUp
>repeat for each word tWord in tStripEm
> add 1 to aWordCounts[tWord]
>end repeat
>put the keys of aWordCounts into tList
>sort lines of tList
>put tList into field "sorted3"
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Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

[Peter Haworth]

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  I pointed the LiveCode preferences  
to the old Revolution folder and all works fine again now.


I know that was a trivial issue in the general scheme of things but  
sure would have been nice to have some information about it in the  
release notes for LiveCode;  I'm now wondering how many other trivial  
but time-consuming problems I'm going to uncover in the coming months.


I also see in the release notes that neither the user documentation  
nor the dictionary have been updated to reflect the LiveCode changes  
and also notice that many messages from LiveCode still refer to  
Revolution.  And I see from posts on this forum that there are new  
datagrid library features included with LiveCode that I can't find any  
mention of in the release notes.  Maybe there are other undocumented  
changes in LiveCode?


Pete Haworth









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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery

[Jeff Reynolds]

Malte,

ill second diskwarrior, its worth the $100, been a champ for me over  
the years when drives have gone bad. just got a portable disc  
resurrected that had gone south. worth spending the money as the time  
it saves dinking around.


cheers

jeff



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wrote:



Malte,

DiskWarrior 4 is able to read from crashed disks in handling them as  
read-only devices. Saved me in twice different occasions, in exactly  
the same situation you describe in recovering/backuping 100% of the  
crashed internal 2.5 HD of two old Macs.


It's just long to do the work 3 or 4 hours for 300 Go or so. Price  
is around 100 US $. I warmly recommand you to try this before  
anything else.




Best Regards,

Pierre


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Re: Performance issues, perhaps Windows 7 related

[David Beck]

Thanks Mark. I am having the client give it a try and will let you know 
how it goes.


David Beck
Rotunda Software
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RE: HTML Text and Images

[Ray Horsley]

Andre,

Thanks again for your input here.  Jim Ault's suggestion is working well;
that I create an image, set its filename to the image's URL to get the
image's height and width and then delete the image.  The only thing I'm
really unable to do now is resize images.  I'm not sure how I would do that
going the browser route so I might just stick with the htmlText route.  If
worse comes to worse I can always just keep the image I create to get the
dimensions, resize it and use it instead.

Thanks,

Ray

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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andre Garzia
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:23 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: HTML Text and Images

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Ray Horsley  wrote:

> Many thanks to Andre Garzia for help on this.  I'm still faced with 
> some [possibly new] issues regarding setting the htmlText of a fld.  
> What I need is the height and width of images inside the htmlText.  
> Ideally I'd like to manipulate height and width.  I'm not downloading 
> any images as files and I'm not using the binFile format so I don't 
> believe they're residing anywhere on my local disk.
>
> Here's a typical span tag as an example:
>
>  src="
> http://linkit.com/Schools/ETS%20Items/ETS%20Item%20Bank/ETS10Q1/01%20F
> u
>
> ll%20Bank/04%20ELA%20QTI%20with%20GUIDs/Grade%20KLanguage%20Arts-95/im
> ages/3
> 8228.jpg"
>
> Set the htmlText of any field to this string and you get a pretty 
> little bird, but how tall and how wide is that bird?
>

Ray,

I think you're on the verge of using the wrong tool for the job. I think
your needs might be better served by RevBrowser than the HTMLText property
of the fields.

First of all, that span tag will be worthless in the htmltext, it will just
be ignored. Other thing is that HTMLText is not HTML and thus does not
possess the necessary stuff under the hood to make things like image
manipulation or introspection possible. I don't think you can check how wide
or how tall an image is inside a field if the imagesource is set to a remote
location.

If you'd use a revBrowser window, it might be possible to check that data
with javascript.

If you just use the HTMLText thing, I don't think it is possible but I am
not an expert, someone here might know better. I think you might need to:

  *  Rethink if HTMLText is what you should be using and maybe consider
moving to a better hypertext container such as revbrowser (which is not a
field and thus not really editable)
  *  If you stay with HTMLText, then, you might need an auxiliary routine to
parse the HTMLText property to pick all the images from the remote location,
download them, manipulate them as needed and then use them in the HTMLText
thing.

Andre




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Fwd: Seems we will need LiveCode for Google TV as soon as possible (2011)

[Pierre Sahores]

Dear All,



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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Terry Judd]

If you disk is dodgy but not completely stuffed you might have some success
connecting it to another Mac in Firewire target disk mode or by starting it
up from the install DVD, firing up the terminal and using ditto to copy
stuff across to an external hard drive. I managed to toast two internal hard
drive on my near new MacBook Pro recently in the space of two weeks recently
and was able to recover a lot of stuff this way, despite the fact that the
MacBook wouldn't boot up and the disk was making all sorts of bad clicking
noises.

Terry...


On 6/10/10 9:20 AM, "Dar Scott"  wrote:

> Others have mentioned some software that might help if you deleted
> some files or have a corrupted file system.  Just don't do anything
> with the disk, if you can, until you run recovery software.
> 
> If the macBook is broken, maybe you can place the drive in another.
> If the drive is broken, then this can get expensive and I don't know
> of a source, but I know some people who do.
> 
> Dar
> 
> On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal
>> from the macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If
>> anyone knows a recovery service which only charges one arm, not
>> both and a leg, I´d appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the
>> EU preferred.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 10/6/10 1:09 AM, "Mark Wieder"  wrote:

>> Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
>> the Franklin 3D website:
> 
> Sad to say, it's completely nonfunctional on xp. Even after the
> obnoxious step of having to reboot my computer after installing,
> launching from the programs menu gives an hourglass searching for the
> nonexistent "FranklinAudio_1"

Hi Mark,

1) it was tested on XP by me. Works.

2) From PROGRAMS menu it should not be started.
 we will check what present in that menu.

Instead you need go to
  My Documents / Paradigma Software / FranklinAudio

>From here open install.rev  by your REV or Livecode.
And run it. This is second step of installation


3) then restart REV and open example from above folder.


Hmm, I see note from developer that 2 hours ago archive was rebuilt.
I will check it tomorrow, maybe something is broken.

Anyway, you need do steps above.


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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Dar Scott]

Others have mentioned some software that might help if you deleted  
some files or have a corrupted file system.  Just don't do anything  
with the disk, if you can, until you run recovery software.


If the macBook is broken, maybe you can place the drive in another.   
If the drive is broken, then this can get expensive and I don't know  
of a source, but I know some people who do.


Dar

On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:


Hey all,

well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal  
from the macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If  
anyone knows a recovery service which only charges one arm, not  
both and a leg, I´d appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the  
EU preferred.


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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

[Mark Wieder]

Lynn-

Monday, October 4, 2010, 1:08:20 PM, you wrote:

> Hello all,

> Beta versions of Franklin Audio for Windows and Mac OS X are available on
> the Franklin 3D website:

Sad to say, it's completely nonfunctional on xp. Even after the
obnoxious step of having to reboot my computer after installing,
launching from the programs menu gives an hourglass searching for the
nonexistent "FranklinAudio_1"

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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Andre Garzia]

I've used Boomerang Data Recovery software with very good sucess rates
dealing with broken flash memory (pendrives, sd cards) and HD. Bonus point
that it already deals with HFS+ stuff

http://www.boomdrs.com/

It is not cheap but I've paid and am happy.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Pierre Sahores  wrote:

> Malte,
>
> DiskWarrior 4 is able to read from crashed disks in handling them as
> read-only devices. Saved me in twice different occasions, in exactly the
> same situation you describe in recovering/backuping 100% of the crashed
> internal 2.5 HD of two old Macs.
>
> It's just long to do the work 3 or 4 hours for 300 Go or so. Price is
> around 100 US $. I warmly recommand you to try this before anything else.
>
> 
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Pierre
>
> Le 5 oct. 2010 à 23:00, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from the
> macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone knows a
> recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a leg, I´d
> appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
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Re: [OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Pierre Sahores]

Malte,

DiskWarrior 4 is able to read from crashed disks in handling them as read-only 
devices. Saved me in twice different occasions, in exactly the same situation 
you describe in recovering/backuping 100% of the crashed internal 2.5 HD of two 
old Macs.

It's just long to do the work 3 or 4 hours for 300 Go or so. Price is around 
100 US $. I warmly recommand you to try this before anything else.



Best Regards,

Pierre

Le 5 oct. 2010 à 23:00, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :

> Hey all,
> 
> well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from the 
> macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone knows a 
> recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a leg, I´d 
> appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred.
> 
> All the best,
> 
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[OT} (slightly) Anyone knows an affordable HD recovery service?

[Malte Pfaff-Brill]

Hey all,

well, you will have guessed it from the subject. My HD (internal from  
the macBook) and also my backup sytem got toasted today. If anyone  
knows a recovery service which only charges one arm, not both and a  
leg, I´d appreciate any info I can get. Companies in the EU preferred.


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Bob Sneidar]

Let's say it was. Should that crash Safari? I think not. 

Bob


On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:39 PM, François Chaplais wrote:

> How is adblock supposed to know a revlet is not an ad? The ice is thin 
> between advertisement and information
> Le 5 oct. 2010 à 21:30, Klaus on-rev a écrit :
> 
>> Hi Medard,
>> 
>>> Klaus on-rev  wrote:
>>> 
 you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
>>> 
>>> first, I deactivated all the extensions
>>> (general switch at the top of the panel)
>>> 
>>> revlets worked
>>> 
>>> second I put the switch on "activated"
>>> and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
>>> 
>>> and revlets crashed
>>> 
>>> *2.21 on my Mac
>> 
>> I see.
>> 
>> But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load 
>> a Revlet.
>> Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.
>> 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
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Re: Some other properties are excluded ?

[Mark Wieder]

David-

Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 11:34:07 AM, you wrote:

> Anyone know what these mysterious other excluded properties are?

BZ #8884

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Klaus on-rev]

Bonsoir François,

> How is adblock supposed to know a revlet is not an ad?

Pas du tôut, mon ami! :-)

It is not that the revlet does not get displayed, but instead Safari CRASHES
when AdBlock (in my case, maybe extensions in general?) is not deactivated!

> The ice is thin between advertisement and information
> Le 5 oct. 2010 à 21:30, Klaus on-rev a écrit :
> 
>> Hi Medard,
>> 
>>> Klaus on-rev  wrote:
>>> 
 you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
>>> 
>>> first, I deactivated all the extensions
>>> (general switch at the top of the panel)
>>> revlets worked
>>> second I put the switch on "activated"
>>> and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
>>> and revlets crashed
>>> *2.21 on my Mac
>> 
>> I see.
>> But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load 
>> a Revlet.
>> Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.

Best

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[François Chaplais]

How is adblock supposed to know a revlet is not an ad? The ice is thin between 
advertisement and information
Le 5 oct. 2010 à 21:30, Klaus on-rev a écrit :

> Hi Medard,
> 
>> Klaus on-rev  wrote:
>> 
>>> you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
>> 
>> first, I deactivated all the extensions
>> (general switch at the top of the panel)
>> 
>> revlets worked
>> 
>> second I put the switch on "activated"
>> and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
>> 
>> and revlets crashed
>> 
>> *2.21 on my Mac
> 
> I see.
> 
> But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load a 
> Revlet.
> Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Medard,

> Klaus on-rev  wrote:
> 
>> you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?
> 
> first, I deactivated all the extensions
> (general switch at the top of the panel)
> 
> revlets worked
> 
> second I put the switch on "activated"
> and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)
> 
> and revlets crashed
> 
> *2.21 on my Mac

I see.

But this was my only extension and crashed Safari everytime I tried to load a 
Revlet.
Once deactivated, Revlets load fine.


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Re: HTML Text and Images

[Andre Garzia]

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Ray Horsley  wrote:

> Many thanks to Andre Garzia for help on this.  I'm still faced with some
> [possibly new] issues regarding setting the htmlText of a fld.  What I need
> is the height and width of images inside the htmlText.  Ideally I'd like to
> manipulate height and width.  I'm not downloading any images as files and
> I'm not using the binFile format so I don't believe they're residing
> anywhere on my local disk.
>
> Here's a typical span tag as an example:
>
>  src="
> http://linkit.com/Schools/ETS%20Items/ETS%20Item%20Bank/ETS10Q1/01%20Fu
>
> ll%20Bank/04%20ELA%20QTI%20with%20GUIDs/Grade%20KLanguage%20Arts-95/images/3
> 8228.jpg"
>
> Set the htmlText of any field to this string and you get a pretty little
> bird, but how tall and how wide is that bird?
>

Ray,

I think you're on the verge of using the wrong tool for the job. I think
your needs might be better served by RevBrowser than the HTMLText property
of the fields.

First of all, that span tag will be worthless in the htmltext, it will just
be ignored. Other thing is that HTMLText is not HTML and thus does not
possess the necessary stuff under the hood to make things like image
manipulation or introspection possible. I don't think you can check how wide
or how tall an image is inside a field if the imagesource is set to a remote
location.

If you'd use a revBrowser window, it might be possible to check that data
with javascript.

If you just use the HTMLText thing, I don't think it is possible but I am
not an expert, someone here might know better. I think you might need to:

  *  Rethink if HTMLText is what you should be using and maybe consider
moving to a better hypertext container such as revbrowser (which is not a
field and thus not really editable)
  *  If you stay with HTMLText, then, you might need an auxiliary routine to
parse the HTMLText property to pick all the images from the remote location,
download them, manipulate them as needed and then use them in the HTMLText
thing.

Andre




>
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>
> Ray Horsley
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Medard]

Klaus on-rev  wrote:

> you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?

first, I deactivated all the extensions
(general switch at the top of the panel)

revlets worked

second I put the switch on "activated"
and I activated only AdBlock* (left panel, with individual extensions)

and revlets crashed

*2.21 on my Mac


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RE: HTML Text and Images

[Ray Horsley]

Bernd,

Works like a charm!  Now, any suggestions on how to resize the image which
is showing up when setting the htmlText of a field?  This is a tough one, I
know, and I don't think there is a way to do this.  I just thought I'd throw
it out there to see if anybody has any suggestions.

Thanks,

Ray

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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of BNig
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:50 PM
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
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Ray,

create an image object, call it "testimage" (could be hidden) on mouseUp
   set the filename of image "testImage" to
"http://linkit.com/Schools/ETS%20Items/ETS%20Item%20Bank/ETS10Q1/01%20Full%2
0Bank/04%20ELA%20QTI%20with%20GUIDs/Grade%20KLanguage%20Arts-95/images/38228
.jpg"
   put the width of image "testImage" && the height of image "testImage"
end mouseUp
regards
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Re: sorting html text with arrays

[Jim Ault]

This can be done depending on the text of each line.
Can you provide examples of the lines you want to sort?


On Oct 5, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Mark Swindell wrote:

I'm using the following script to create a glossary/word list of all  
words appearing in a songbook I'm making in Apple's Pages word  
processor (over 2,000 unique words).   (Thanks to Phil Davis for his  
help with arrays.)


What I am wondering is if the formatted text can be retained in a  
case like this, and how.  My attempts so far have failed, as the  
htmlText tags are included in the sort... not what I want.)  I'd  
like to be able to paste in from the word processor and do the sort  
while maintaining formatting (bold, font, font size), and then be  
able to take that result and copy and paste it back into the word  
processor.


Am I asking too much?

Thanks
Mark

on mouseUp
  repeat for each word tWord in tStripEm
   add 1 to aWordCounts[tWord]
  end repeat
  put the keys of aWordCounts into tList
  sort lines of tList
  put tList into field "sorted3"
end mouseUp


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RE: sorting html text with arrays

[Ray Horsley]

Mark,

Are you familiar with setting the htmlText of a field?  (I've posted a few
questions to this list myself recently regarding various aspects of this
feature.)  You might try making an entire card for each word, set the
htmlText of a field in it to your html, sorting the cards by some
criteria-perhaps another field with other data in it, and then getting the
htmlText of each field in the new order of the cards.

Hope this helps,

Ray

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To: How to use Revolution
Subject: sorting html text with arrays

I'm using the following script to create a glossary/word list of all words
appearing in a songbook I'm making in Apple's Pages word processor (over
2,000 unique words).   (Thanks to Phil Davis for his help with arrays.)  

What I am wondering is if the formatted text can be retained in a case like
this, and how.  My attempts so far have failed, as the htmlText tags are
included in the sort... not what I want.)  I'd like to be able to paste in
from the word processor and do the sort while maintaining formatting (bold,
font, font size), and then be able to take that result and copy and paste it
back into the word processor.

Am I asking too much?

Thanks
Mark

on mouseUp
   repeat for each word tWord in tStripEm
add 1 to aWordCounts[tWord]
   end repeat
   put the keys of aWordCounts into tList
   sort lines of tList
   put tList into field "sorted3"
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RE: HTML Text and Images

[Ray Horsley]

Now honestly, why didn't I think of that?  I'll give it a try.

Thanks,

Ray

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Ray,

create an image object, call it "testimage" (could be hidden) on mouseUp
   set the filename of image "testImage" to
"http://linkit.com/Schools/ETS%20Items/ETS%20Item%20Bank/ETS10Q1/01%20Full%2
0Bank/04%20ELA%20QTI%20with%20GUIDs/Grade%20KLanguage%20Arts-95/images/38228
.jpg"
   put the width of image "testImage" && the height of image "testImage"
end mouseUp
regards
Bernd
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Re: HTML Text and Images

[BNig]

Ray,

create an image object, call it "testimage" (could be hidden)
on mouseUp
   set the filename of image "testImage" to
"http://linkit.com/Schools/ETS%20Items/ETS%20Item%20Bank/ETS10Q1/01%20Full%20Bank/04%20ELA%20QTI%20with%20GUIDs/Grade%20KLanguage%20Arts-95/images/38228.jpg";
   put the width of image "testImage" && the height of image "testImage"
end mouseUp
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sorting html text with arrays

[Mark Swindell]

I'm using the following script to create a glossary/word list of all words 
appearing in a songbook I'm making in Apple's Pages word processor (over 2,000 
unique words).   (Thanks to Phil Davis for his help with arrays.)  

What I am wondering is if the formatted text can be retained in a case like 
this, and how.  My attempts so far have failed, as the htmlText tags are 
included in the sort... not what I want.)  I'd like to be able to paste in from 
the word processor and do the sort while maintaining formatting (bold, font, 
font size), and then be able to take that result and copy and paste it back 
into the word processor.

Am I asking too much?

Thanks
Mark

on mouseUp
   repeat for each word tWord in tStripEm
add 1 to aWordCounts[tWord]
   end repeat
   put the keys of aWordCounts into tList
   sort lines of tList
   put tList into field "sorted3"
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Some other properties are excluded ?

[David Bovill]

Anyone know what these mysterious other excluded properties are?

Not every property is included in the properties property. The following
> types of properties are excluded:
> * Read-only properties
> * The script property and custom properties
> * Synonyms: Only one synonym for each property is included.
> * Duplicates: Properties that are functionally duplicated by other
> properties are not included. For example, the rectangle property is
> included, but not the height, width, top, bottom, left, right, or location
> properties, because you can derive all of them from the object's rectangle.
> * Properties other than object properties: Global properties, local
> properties, properties of a character or chunk in a field, and adjectives
> such as short that are implemented internally as properties are all
> excluded.
>
> * Others: Some other properties are excluded.
>
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HTML Text and Images

[Ray Horsley]

Many thanks to Andre Garzia for help on this.  I'm still faced with some
[possibly new] issues regarding setting the htmlText of a fld.  What I need
is the height and width of images inside the htmlText.  Ideally I'd like to
manipulate height and width.  I'm not downloading any images as files and
I'm not using the binFile format so I don't believe they're residing
anywhere on my local disk.

Here's a typical span tag as an example:

http://linkit.com/Schools/ETS%20Items/ETS%20Item%20Bank/ETS10Q1/01%20Fu
ll%20Bank/04%20ELA%20QTI%20with%20GUIDs/Grade%20KLanguage%20Arts-95/images/3
8228.jpg"

Set the htmlText of any field to this string and you get a pretty little
bird, but how tall and how wide is that bird?

Thanks,

Ray Horsley
LinkIt! Software

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[mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andre Garzia
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:01 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: HTML Text

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Ray Horsley  wrote:

> Ah -  Very interesting regarding the defaultFolder.  The defaultFolder 
> when I open LiveCode on my machine is:
>
>   C:/Windows/system32
>
> I didn't realize I was doing anything with the defaultFolder when 
> issuing the command:
>
>   set the htmlText of fld 1 to myHtml
>
> Should I set this beforehand to a known folder the user can write to?
>

Ray,

You need to set it to some place where the compound assembly of the
defaultfolder + your imagesource value actually resolves to a real file.

So if you have the following imagesource set:

ETS Items/ETS Item Bank/ETS10Q1/01 Full Bank/06 Math QTI 0with GUIDs and
96dpi PNG/Grade 06Math-49/images/mml2504101.png

And that "ETS Items" is located at "~/Desktop/Rays App/" so that the actuall
file path is:

~/Desktop/Rays App/ETS Items/ETS Item Bank/ETS10Q1/01 Full Bank/06 Math QTI
0with GUIDs and 96dpi PNG/Grade 06Math-49/images/mml2504101.png

Then you just need to set the defaultfolder to "~/Desktop/Rays App/"

Image source has three possible resolutions:

(1) The image is inside revolution since imagesource value is an ID or image
name. Just figure out what image is and use it
(2) The image is a remote resource since we're given an fully qualified URL.
Load it from the server
(3) Image is a file on disk, see if it is a full path or relative path to
our defaultfolder and solve it.

I actually think that cases (2) and (3) are actually the same. I don't know
if you can simply pass a path without the binfile protocol in it.

Try changing your source to something like:

binfile:ETS Items/ETS Item Bank/ETS10Q1/01 Full Bank/06 Math QTI 0with GUIDs
and 96dpi PNG/Grade 06Math-49/images/mml2504101.png

Remember the relative folder, if possible, always use full paths by figuring
out the path before assembling the HTMLText chunk and replacing the
variables.




>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com
> [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andre 
> Garzia
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:43 AM
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Re: HTML Text
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Jeff Massung  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Andre Garzia 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello there Ray,
> > >
> > > How do you set the image? Is it an ID reference like:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > Holy crap does that work? I was doing it the hard way. And don't ask 
> > me what that was, cause I'll feel really stupid if I post it. ;-)
> >
>
> Basically the src attribute of the img node is used as the value for 
> the imagesource property. The imagesource property can be a value like 
> image ID, image Name, image URL or empty.
>
> If using an image URL which is what Ray is using, one thing to keep in 
> mind is the defaultfolder. He uses a relative folder in the 
> assignment, if the application run as an administrator or as a common 
> user has a different defaultfolder, then the relative path will break.
>
> HTMLText: http://docs.runrev.com/Property/HTMLText
>
> ImageSource: http://docs.runrev.com/Property/imageSource
>
>
>
> >
> > Jeff M.
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Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

[J. Landman Gay]

On 10/5/10 11:39 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Hmmm, well I guess the answer's No but I'm not sure why they would show
up in the App browser. In case I didn't explain things properly, I'm
referring to the Image Library option on the Development menu. I had
used the "Import File" option on the Images tab to bring in some image
files under Revolution 4.0. They still show up in Rev 4.0 but aren't
listed in LiveCode 4.5.


Sorry, my brain skipped the "library" part and only saw the "image" part 
of your question. Others have pointed you in the right direction. I 
personally do what Mark Weider suggested, and just use the preferences 
field to point the IDE to the older, existing Rev resource folder. It's 
easier that way and I don't have to duplicate everything just to run 
different versions of the engine.


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Medard,

> Klaus on-rev  wrote:
> 
>> Since I only have one extension installed it is "AdBlock" in my case!
> 
> Ahem!
> 
> I activated AdBlock (only)

you mean you DEactivated AdBlock, right?

> and Safari crashed at revlet launch ;-<<
> 
> Be positive: we have now something to tell to the tech support ;-)))

Best

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Medard]

Klaus on-rev  wrote:

> Since I only have one extension installed it is "AdBlock" in my case!

Ahem!

I activated AdBlock (only)

and Safari crashed at revlet launch ;-<<



Be positive: we have now something to tell to the tech support ;-)))


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Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

[Mike Bonner]

I just did a test run in livecode and created an image library, then
searched for it from the terminal.  It was created in

./Documents/My LiveCode/Resources/Icon Libraries/revLibmyTestLib.rev

When I first looked the Resources tree wasn't there. After I created an
image library, the tree was created and the library was placed there. Either
re-create the tree then move your libraries, or create a quicky one so it
does it for you then move em all over.

Alternatively, do as Mark suggested and just change your preferences to
point to the old location.


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> Prowled around a bit more and found where the icons were stored in Rev 4.0
> (I'm running on OSX).  They are in the Documents/My Revolution
> Studio/Resources/Icon Libraries folder.  Each set of icons I imported is in
> a rev stack named "revlib" followed by the name of the icon library.  I'm
> hoping I can just move those stacks to somewhere in the new LiveCode
> hierarchy to have them show up.  Any ideas?
>
> Pete Haworth
>
> On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:22 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
>
>  Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:49:17 -0500
>> From: "J. Landman Gay" 
>> Subject: Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode
>> To: How to use Revolution 
>> Message-ID: <4caa760d.1040...@hyperactivesw.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 10/4/10 7:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>>
>>> I had imported 3 or 4 image libraries into Revolution 4.0.  They don't
>>> show up in LiveCode 4.5. I don't have the external sources of the image
>>> files on my computer - any ideas on how I can get them back?
>>>
>>
>> Do they show up in the application browser?
>>
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Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

[Mark Wieder]

Peter-

Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 10:07:43 AM, you wrote:

> Prowled around a bit more and found where the icons were stored in Rev
> 4.0 (I'm running on OSX).  They are in the Documents/My Revolution  
> Studio/Resources/Icon Libraries folder.  Each set of icons I imported
> is in a rev stack named "revlib" followed by the name of the icon  
> library.  I'm hoping I can just move those stacks to somewhere in the
> new LiveCode hierarchy to have them show up.  Any ideas?

I find it much simpler to keep LiveCode and Rev pointing to the same
folder. A simple preferences setting and then I don't have to worry
about moving files and keeping multiple copies of things.

But otherwise - yes, the folder hierarchy is the same. Copy the icon
libraries into

/Resources/Icon Libraries.

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Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

[Peter Haworth]

Prowled around a bit more and found where the icons were stored in Rev  
4.0 (I'm running on OSX).  They are in the Documents/My Revolution  
Studio/Resources/Icon Libraries folder.  Each set of icons I imported  
is in a rev stack named "revlib" followed by the name of the icon  
library.  I'm hoping I can just move those stacks to somewhere in the  
new LiveCode hierarchy to have them show up.  Any ideas?


Pete Haworth

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wrote:



Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:49:17 -0500
From: "J. Landman Gay" 
Subject: Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <4caa760d.1040...@hyperactivesw.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 10/4/10 7:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I had imported 3 or 4 image libraries into Revolution 4.0.  They  
don't
show up in LiveCode 4.5. I don't have the external sources of the  
image

files on my computer - any ideas on how I can get them back?


Do they show up in the application browser?

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Re: Datagrid Default Column Behavior

[Peter Haworth]

OK, got it, misunderstood what to clear out.  All works fine now.

Pete Haworth

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 08:37:07 -0400
From: Trevor DeVore 
Subject: Re: Datagrid Default Column Behavior
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Peter Haworth  
wrote:


I guess I'm not understanding this correctly.  Here's what I did,  
assuming

the column with the option menu in it is named "OptionColumn"

On the Datagrid Templates card, I see a button named "OptionColumn
Behavior".  I deleted all the lines from the script for that button  
then hit
Apply.  Then I opened the card containing my datagrid but still my  
default
column script is only executed for columns that have not been  
customised.




Deleting the script doesn't change the fact that the button is  
assigned as
the behavior for the "OptionColumn" column. You need to set the  
behavior

property of the "OptionColumn" group on you template card to empty.
Otherwise you have a column template with no script at all (because  
you

deleted the script in OptionColumn Behavior).

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Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode

[Peter Haworth]

Hmmm, well I guess the answer's No but I'm not sure why they would  
show up in the App browser.  In case I didn't explain things properly,  
I'm referring to the  Image Library option on the Development menu.  I  
had used the "Import File" option on the Images tab to bring in some  
image files under Revolution 4.0.  They still show up in Rev 4.0 but  
aren't listed in LiveCode 4.5.


Pete Haworth

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wrote:



Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:49:17 -0500
From: "J. Landman Gay" 
Subject: Re: Image Library Disappeared in LiveCode
To: How to use Revolution 
Message-ID: <4caa760d.1040...@hyperactivesw.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 10/4/10 7:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I had imported 3 or 4 image libraries into Revolution 4.0.  They  
don't
show up in LiveCode 4.5. I don't have the external sources of the  
image

files on my computer - any ideas on how I can get them back?


Do they show up in the application browser?

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Medard,

Am 05.10.2010 um 18:25 schrieb Medard:

> Klaus on-rev  wrote:
>> Since I only have one extension installed it is "AdBlock" in my case!
> if you are right, it is somewhat troublesome: AdBlock is indeed a very
> useful extension... 

You bet, and that's why I rather avoid to load revlets until this got fixed!


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Medard]

Klaus on-rev  wrote:

> Since I only have one extension installed it is "AdBlock" in my case!

if you are right, it is somewhat troublesome: AdBlock is indeed a very
useful extension... 


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Re: Which app has which ports

[Bob Sneidar]

Hi Dar. That did the trick. I found out that OS X server itself is the culprit. 
Seems that LDAP is running on Open Directory. It's a replica. That's what I get 
for trying to run an LDAP aware mail server on OS X server. 

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

> On OS X:
> 
> sudo lsof -i -P
> 
> The command to run the process is in the first column and the process ID is 
> in the second.
> 
> I tried netstat, but that did not work
> 
> Dar

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Medard,

> Medard  wrote:
> 
>> Scratching my head..
> reading other posts... and thinking of Flash ;->
> I remember I do have a number of extensions for Safari related to
> Flash!!as ClickToFlash, FlashToHTML, YouTube...
> so I deactivated all the extensions in Safari...
> and... Revlets do load

YES! Same here!

> for now, searching which is the culprit ;-)))

Since I only have one extension installed it is "AdBlock" in my case!

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Re: Which app has which ports

[Bob Sneidar]

I only get this:

LogMeInGU 234  5016u  IPv4 0x2f5266c  0t0  TCP 
127.0.0.1:49180->127.0.0.1:2002 (ESTABLISHED)

There is a LOT more going on on this server than that. Not sure what is wrong. 
I will check into the man page of lsof. Thanks. 

Bob


On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> Use the following magic incantation on the terminal:
> 
>  lsof -Pnl +M -i4
> 
> :-D hope this helps!

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!? NO: it's an extensions problem

[Medard]

Medard  wrote:

> Scratching my head..

reading other posts... and thinking of Flash ;->

I remember I do have a number of extensions for Safari related to
Flash!!

as ClickToFlash, FlashToHTML, YouTube...

so I deactivated all the extensions in Safari...

and...

Revlets do load



for now, searching which is the culprit ;-)))


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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

[Medard]

J. Landman Gay  wrote:

> It was the same deal, it started after installing the 10.6.4 update.

speaking of that, I heard that things could be "restored" by
re-installing the combo...

so I downloaded the latest combo (it takes ages!)

and re-installed it

"the result" = encouraging, but not entirely!
that works on an admin user
that works on the Guest user
that crash on my current user ;->

Scratching my head..



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Re: Which app has which ports

[Andre Garzia]

Yes it is true Dar, I was not thinking straight

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Dar Scott  wrote:

> What about processes run by vermin, or some other user, or the root?
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
>  I don't think you need sudo... I did my lsof line without it...
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>>
>>  On OS X:
>>>
>>> sudo lsof -i -P
>>>
>>> The command to run the process is in the first column and the process ID
>>> is
>>> in the second.
>>>
>>> I tried netstat, but that did not work
>>>
>>> Dar
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>>>
>>>  sometimes i forget that there are people who use Windows. (jab jab)
>>>

 Mac, but i am not looking for what ports are open, but which app opened
 them.

 Bob


 On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:

  Hi Bob

>
> No idea which platform you are using but google "port sniffer" and I am
> sure
> you will find something that works for you.
> Best wishes.
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 645 5394
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
>
>  Anyone know how to find which application opened a certain port? I
> have
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>> is
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

[Pierre Sahores]

I confirm having seen lots of safari's flash module crashes on my MBP i7 
(10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2) over the last weeks and as long as flash is anyware 
today, even in all the main SEO web pages rendering tools...

Best,

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Le 5 oct. 2010 à 15:50, stephen barncard a écrit :

> I still think it's all because of ^%$$#^^#^ Flash.  10.6.4 crashing browser,
> usually during a flash movie.
> 
> I love to blame flash for everything wrong in my life.
> 
> On 5 October 2010 02:46, Medard  wrote:
> 
>> J. Landman Gay  wrote:
>> 
>>> I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup,
>>> requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it
>>> started after installing the 10.6.4 update.
>> 
>> When I think I avoided the 10.6.3 upgrade, as I heard of numerous
>> problem with this version
>> 
>> So I jumped directly from 10.6.2 to 10.6.4
>> 
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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

[stephen barncard]

I still think it's all because of ^%$$#^^#^ Flash.  10.6.4 crashing browser,
usually during a flash movie.

I love to blame flash for everything wrong in my life.

On 5 October 2010 02:46, Medard  wrote:

> J. Landman Gay  wrote:
>
> > I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup,
> > requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it
> > started after installing the 10.6.4 update.
>
> When I think I avoided the 10.6.3 upgrade, as I heard of numerous
> problem with this version
>
> So I jumped directly from 10.6.2 to 10.6.4
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Re: Drag & drop reordering of a DataGrid form

[Trevor DeVore]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I don't see any code for handling
> drag/drop in the default datagrid behavior script I got when I installed
> LiveCode 4.5


The code is in the data grid behavior script: edit script of btn "Data Grid"
of stack "revDataGridLibrary"

Our good friend the Slug posted some links to some example stacks I've made
showing how to use it. The code snippet I posted for Monte and Monsieur Le
Slug was to fix an issue with setting the dragAction. The code snippet goes
in the "Data Grid" button script.

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Re: Drag & drop reordering of a DataGrid form

[Trevor DeVore]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I don't see any code for handling
> drag/drop in the default datagrid behavior script I got when I installed
> LiveCode 4.5


The code is in the data grid behavior script: edit script of btn "Data Grid"
of stack "revDataGridLibrary"

Our good friend the Slug posted some links to some example stacks I've made
showing how to use it. The code snippet I posted for Monte and Monsieur Le
Slug was to fix an issue with setting the dragAction. The code snippet goes
in the "Data Grid" button script.

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Re: Datagrid Default Column Behavior

[Trevor DeVore]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> I guess I'm not understanding this correctly.  Here's what I did, assuming
> the column with the option menu in it is named "OptionColumn"
>
> On the Datagrid Templates card, I see a button named "OptionColumn
> Behavior".  I deleted all the lines from the script for that button then hit
> Apply.  Then I opened the card containing my datagrid but still my default
> column script is only executed for columns that have not been customised.
>

Deleting the script doesn't change the fact that the button is assigned as
the behavior for the "OptionColumn" column. You need to set the behavior
property of the "OptionColumn" group on you template card to empty.
Otherwise you have a column template with no script at all (because you
deleted the script in OptionColumn Behavior).

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Re: Datagrid option menu initialisation

[Trevor DeVore]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> I have a datagrid table with two option menu columns in it.  It's OK to
> initialise the first one per your reply but the contents of the second one
> need to be set differently depending on the currently selected value in the
> first option menu.  Any recommendations as to how to do that?
>

You will need to populate the menu in the FillInData message in this case.
Just fetch the value of the column that dictates the values and then
populate.

http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7313-How-Do-I-Get-Data-Associated-With-a-Row-or-Column-

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Re: Revlets make Safari to crash on Mac OS X 10.6.4!?

[Medard]

J. Landman Gay  wrote:

> I had the same experience with another non-rev app. Full system lockup,
> requiring a hard power reset to reboot the Mac. It was the same deal, it
> started after installing the 10.6.4 update.

When I think I avoided the 10.6.3 upgrade, as I heard of numerous
problem with this version

So I jumped directly from 10.6.2 to 10.6.4

grin, grin...
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