Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-29 Thread Everett Toews
Sorry I'm getting to this thread a little late. Our priorities for 2.4
would be NAT and OpenStack support.

Everett Toews | Senior Developer
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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Shoji Kajita kaj...@nagoya-u.jp wrote:

 Hi Josh,

 I found that php requires gettext for multilingualization (or usually,
 internationalization or i18n). Is it possible to check gettext support
 by using testsetup.php?

 Shoji

 At Mon, 21 May 2012 15:53:40 -0400,
 Josh Thompson wrote:
 
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  Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut by
  Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding
 small
  bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as
 we stop
  finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
 
  In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the
 next
  few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.
  Please
  let me know if there are any notable features that I left off of 2.3.
  Also,
  let me know what you think of the future features.
 
  VCL 2.3 (this release)
* Service deployments
* Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
  protocols, etc)
* Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
* Added support for OS X under ESX
* Added support for VMware VCenter
* Added multilingualization to frontend
 
  VCL 2.4
* Power management
* Improve cluster reservations
* Service deployment configuration management
* Support for Spice remote display protocol
* Scripted installation
 
  VCL 2.5
* develop tools for managing both system and user storage
 
  Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-23 Thread Larry Burton
I would commit to helping scripted installation into 2.4. I believe the 
focus should be on a basic, entry-level VCL that is automatic from bare 
metal to working system for those who are no so familiar with Linux.

Larry

Josh Thompson wrote:

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Chris,

We don't have any surveys or anything like that.  Things really just happen 
through discussion on this list.


Josh

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:13:01 PM Chris Jones wrote:
  

It would be nice to see IPv6 included for sure.  We at Clemson are
definitely wanting that.

Hopefully this wasn't mentioned before and I missed it, but is there a spot
to vote on what features are important to the community?  Like a survey or
something for interested parties?

Thanks for the great work, guys!

-ChrisJ

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Josh Thompson 


josh_thomp...@ncsu.eduwrote:
  

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I like the idea of prioritizing items that are preventing people from
using
VCL.  I'll move power management and Libcloud to 2.5.  I think Spice will
be
taken care of with the work needed for NAT.  Having Spice makes us more
competitive with commercial VDI solutions.

Josh

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:19:31 AM Andy Kurth wrote:
  

I think 2.4 should include the highest-priority items which currently
prevent some institutions/organizations from using VCL including:
-IPv6 support
-NAT support
-Single network interface support

Adding these makes the list for 2.4 ridiculously long.  I would
suggest moving power management, Spice, and libcloud support to later
releases.

I think any feature can be worked on in the meantime if anyone is
interested in doing so, but completion should not prevent 2.4 from
being released.

I would also like to plan a 2.3.1 bug fix release targeted for early
to mid August, 2012.

-Andy

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Mark Gardner m...@vt.edu wrote:


Aaron,

At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)

Mark

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu
  

wrote:
  

Looks good to me.

Anyone else? This is a community decision :)

Aaron

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson 


josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu

wrote:
  

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That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How
  

about

  

splitting them up into two releases as follows:

VCL 2.3 (this release)

 * Service deployments
 * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
 
   protocols, etc)
 
 * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM

 * Added support for OS X under ESX
 * Added support for VMware VCenter
 * Added multilingualization to frontend

VCL 2.4

 * Power management
 * Improve additional access methods
 * Support for Spice remote display protocol
 * Scripted installation
 * Support for ESX OS for end users
 * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
 * Initial support for Libcloud

VCL 2.5

 * Improve cluster reservations
 * Service deployment configuration management

VCL 2.6

 * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a
significant amount of the work already completed (largely by newer
people in the community - - yay!).

Josh

On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
  

Looks good.

I would also like to see added to 2.4:
* support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
* initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely
include
the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
* initial support for libcloud

Aaron

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson 


josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu

  

wrote:
  

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Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate
  

cut

  

by
Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and
  

finding

  

small
bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As
  

soon

  

as we
stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.

In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go
with
the
next
few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to
  

include.

  

 Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left
  

off

  

of
2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.

VCL 2.3 (this release)

 * Service deployments
 * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port,
  

other

  

   protocols, etc)
 
 * Added framework support for libvirt and 

Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-23 Thread Aaron Peeler
Oops, Sorry - it's already listed.
Aaron


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 I agree. Definitely need to add the automated/scripted install to the
 published roadmap.

 Aaron

 On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Larry Burton
 larry_bur...@runningcedar.com wrote:
 I would commit to helping scripted installation into 2.4. I believe the
 focus should be on a basic, entry-level VCL that is automatic from bare
 metal to working system for those who are no so familiar with Linux.
 Larry


 Josh Thompson wrote:

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 Chris,

 We don't have any surveys or anything like that.  Things really just
 happen through discussion on this list.

 Josh

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:13:01 PM Chris Jones wrote:


 It would be nice to see IPv6 included for sure.  We at Clemson are
 definitely wanting that.

 Hopefully this wasn't mentioned before and I missed it, but is there a
 spot
 to vote on what features are important to the community?  Like a survey
 or
 something for interested parties?

 Thanks for the great work, guys!

 -ChrisJ

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Josh Thompson

 josh_thomp...@ncsu.eduwrote:


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 Hash: SHA1

 I like the idea of prioritizing items that are preventing people from
 using
 VCL.  I'll move power management and Libcloud to 2.5.  I think Spice
 will
 be
 taken care of with the work needed for NAT.  Having Spice makes us more
 competitive with commercial VDI solutions.

 Josh

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:19:31 AM Andy Kurth wrote:


 I think 2.4 should include the highest-priority items which currently
 prevent some institutions/organizations from using VCL including:
 -IPv6 support
 -NAT support
 -Single network interface support

 Adding these makes the list for 2.4 ridiculously long.  I would
 suggest moving power management, Spice, and libcloud support to later
 releases.

 I think any feature can be worked on in the meantime if anyone is
 interested in doing so, but completion should not prevent 2.4 from
 being released.

 I would also like to plan a 2.3.1 bug fix release targeted for early
 to mid August, 2012.

 -Andy

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Mark Gardner m...@vt.edu wrote:


 Aaron,

 At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
 still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
 of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
 don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)

 Mark

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu


 wrote:


 Looks good to me.

 Anyone else? This is a community decision :)

 Aaron

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson 


 josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu

 wrote:


 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How


 about



 splitting them up into two releases as follows:

 VCL 2.3 (this release)

  * Service deployments
  * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
    protocols, etc)
  * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
  * Added support for OS X under ESX
  * Added support for VMware VCenter
  * Added multilingualization to frontend

 VCL 2.4

  * Power management
  * Improve additional access methods
  * Support for Spice remote display protocol
  * Scripted installation
  * Support for ESX OS for end users
  * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
  * Initial support for Libcloud

 VCL 2.5

  * Improve cluster reservations
  * Service deployment configuration management

 VCL 2.6

  * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

 The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a
 significant amount of the work already completed (largely by newer
 people in the community - - yay!).

 Josh

 On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:


 Looks good.

 I would also like to see added to 2.4:
 * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
 * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely
 include
 the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
 * initial support for libcloud

 Aaron

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson 


 josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu



 wrote:


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 Hash: SHA1

 Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate


 cut



 by
 Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and


 finding



 small
 bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As


 soon



 as we
 stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.

 In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go
 with
 the
 next
 few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to


 include.



  Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left


 off



 of
 2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.

 VCL 2.3 (this release)

  * Service 

Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-23 Thread Shoji Kajita
Hi Josh,

I found that php requires gettext for multilingualization (or usually,
internationalization or i18n). Is it possible to check gettext support
by using testsetup.php?

Shoji

At Mon, 21 May 2012 15:53:40 -0400,
Josh Thompson wrote:
 
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut by 
 Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding small 
 bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as we 
 stop 
 finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
 
 In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the next 
 few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.  Please 
 let me know if there are any notable features that I left off of 2.3.  Also, 
 let me know what you think of the future features.
 
 VCL 2.3 (this release)
   * Service deployments
   * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
 protocols, etc)
   * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
   * Added support for OS X under ESX
   * Added support for VMware VCenter
   * Added multilingualization to frontend
 
 VCL 2.4
   * Power management
   * Improve cluster reservations
   * Service deployment configuration management
   * Support for Spice remote display protocol
   * Scripted installation
 
 VCL 2.5
   * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
 
 Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Josh Thompson
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That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How about 
splitting them up into two releases as follows:

VCL 2.3 (this release)
  * Service deployments
  * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other 
protocols, etc)
  * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
  * Added support for OS X under ESX
  * Added support for VMware VCenter
  * Added multilingualization to frontend

VCL 2.4
  * Power management
  * Improve additional access methods
  * Support for Spice remote display protocol
  * Scripted installation
  * Support for ESX OS for end users 
  * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
  * Initial support for Libcloud

VCL 2.5
  * Improve cluster reservations
  * Service deployment configuration management

VCL 2.6
  * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a significant 
amount of the work already completed (largely by newer people in the community 
- - yay!).

Josh

On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
 Looks good.
 
 I would also like to see added to 2.4:
 * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
 * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
 the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
 * initial support for libcloud
 
 Aaron
 
 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu 
wrote:
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  Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut by
  Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding
  small
  bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as we
  stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
  
  In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the
  next
  few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.
   Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left off of
  2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
  
  VCL 2.3 (this release)
   * Service deployments
   * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
 protocols, etc)
   * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
   * Added support for OS X under ESX
   * Added support for VMware VCenter
   * Added multilingualization to frontend
  
  VCL 2.4
   * Power management
   * Improve cluster reservations
   * Service deployment configuration management
   * Support for Spice remote display protocol
   * Scripted installation
  
  VCL 2.5
   * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
  
  Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Aaron Peeler
Looks good to me.

Anyone else? This is a community decision :)

Aaron

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
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 That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How about
 splitting them up into two releases as follows:

 VCL 2.3 (this release)
  * Service deployments
  * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
    protocols, etc)
  * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
  * Added support for OS X under ESX
  * Added support for VMware VCenter
  * Added multilingualization to frontend

 VCL 2.4
  * Power management
  * Improve additional access methods
  * Support for Spice remote display protocol
  * Scripted installation
  * Support for ESX OS for end users
  * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
  * Initial support for Libcloud

 VCL 2.5
  * Improve cluster reservations
  * Service deployment configuration management

 VCL 2.6
  * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

 The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a significant
 amount of the work already completed (largely by newer people in the community
 - - yay!).

 Josh

 On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
 Looks good.

 I would also like to see added to 2.4:
 * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
 * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
 the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
 * initial support for libcloud

 Aaron

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
 wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut by
  Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding
  small
  bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as we
  stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
 
  In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the
  next
  few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.
   Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left off of
  2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
 
  VCL 2.3 (this release)
   * Service deployments
   * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
     protocols, etc)
   * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
   * Added support for OS X under ESX
   * Added support for VMware VCenter
   * Added multilingualization to frontend
 
  VCL 2.4
   * Power management
   * Improve cluster reservations
   * Service deployment configuration management
   * Support for Spice remote display protocol
   * Scripted installation
 
  VCL 2.5
   * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
 
  Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Mark Gardner
Aaron,

At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)

Mark

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 Looks good to me.

 Anyone else? This is a community decision :)

 Aaron

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How about
 splitting them up into two releases as follows:

 VCL 2.3 (this release)
  * Service deployments
  * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
    protocols, etc)
  * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
  * Added support for OS X under ESX
  * Added support for VMware VCenter
  * Added multilingualization to frontend

 VCL 2.4
  * Power management
  * Improve additional access methods
  * Support for Spice remote display protocol
  * Scripted installation
  * Support for ESX OS for end users
  * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
  * Initial support for Libcloud

 VCL 2.5
  * Improve cluster reservations
  * Service deployment configuration management

 VCL 2.6
  * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

 The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a 
 significant
 amount of the work already completed (largely by newer people in the 
 community
 - - yay!).

 Josh

 On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
 Looks good.

 I would also like to see added to 2.4:
 * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
 * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
 the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
 * initial support for libcloud

 Aaron

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
 wrote:
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  Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut by
  Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding
  small
  bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as we
  stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
 
  In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the
  next
  few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.
   Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left off of
  2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
 
  VCL 2.3 (this release)
   * Service deployments
   * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
     protocols, etc)
   * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
   * Added support for OS X under ESX
   * Added support for VMware VCenter
   * Added multilingualization to frontend
 
  VCL 2.4
   * Power management
   * Improve cluster reservations
   * Service deployment configuration management
   * Support for Spice remote display protocol
   * Scripted installation
 
  VCL 2.5
   * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
 
  Josh
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  North Carolina State University
 
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Josh Thompson
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NOTE - I changed access methods to connect methods in this thread since we 
ended up naming it connect methods previously.

Mark,

We can just add IPv6 in whatever release is next after you finish it.  For 
NAPT, I was thinking to include that as part of Improve additional connect 
methods for 2.4.  Other parts to that specific topic would be delivering 
download config files for things other than just RDP if other connect methods 
could use them and a place in the frontend for managing (adding, removing, 
setting defaults for OSes, etc) the connect methods.

Josh

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:02:03 AM Mark Gardner wrote:
 Aaron,
 
 At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
 still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
 of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
 don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)
 
 Mark
 
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
  Looks good to me.
  
  Anyone else? This is a community decision :)
  
  Aaron
  
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu 
wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How about
  splitting them up into two releases as follows:
  
  VCL 2.3 (this release)
   * Service deployments
   * Allow for additional connect methods for environments (port, other
 protocols, etc)
   * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
   * Added support for OS X under ESX
   * Added support for VMware VCenter
   * Added multilingualization to frontend
  
  VCL 2.4
   * Power management
   * Improve additional connect methods
   * Support for Spice remote display protocol
   * Scripted installation
   * Support for ESX OS for end users
   * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
   * Initial support for Libcloud
  
  VCL 2.5
   * Improve cluster reservations
   * Service deployment configuration management
  
  VCL 2.6
   * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
  
  The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a
  significant amount of the work already completed (largely by newer
  people in the community - - yay!).
  
  Josh
  
  On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
  Looks good.
  
  I would also like to see added to 2.4:
  * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
  * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
  the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
  * initial support for libcloud
  
  Aaron
  
  On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
  
  wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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   Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut
   by
   Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding
   small
   bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as
   we
   stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
   
   In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the
   next
   few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.
Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left off
   of
   2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
   
   VCL 2.3 (this release)
* Service deployments
* Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
  protocols, etc)
* Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
* Added support for OS X under ESX
* Added support for VMware VCenter
* Added multilingualization to frontend
   
   VCL 2.4
* Power management
* Improve cluster reservations
* Service deployment configuration management
* Support for Spice remote display protocol
* Scripted installation
   
   VCL 2.5
* develop tools for managing both system and user storage
   
   Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Andy Kurth
Mark,
Please start a discussion thread on the vcl-dev list regarding IPv6
support.  Others may be interested in participating, the current
status, problems encountered, etc.

Thanks,
Andy


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 NOTE - I changed access methods to connect methods in this thread since we
 ended up naming it connect methods previously.

 Mark,

 We can just add IPv6 in whatever release is next after you finish it.  For
 NAPT, I was thinking to include that as part of Improve additional connect
 methods for 2.4.  Other parts to that specific topic would be delivering
 download config files for things other than just RDP if other connect methods
 could use them and a place in the frontend for managing (adding, removing,
 setting defaults for OSes, etc) the connect methods.

 Josh

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:02:03 AM Mark Gardner wrote:
 Aaron,

 At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
 still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
 of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
 don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)

 Mark

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
  Looks good to me.
 
  Anyone else? This is a community decision :)
 
  Aaron
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
 wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How about
  splitting them up into two releases as follows:
 
  VCL 2.3 (this release)
   * Service deployments
   * Allow for additional connect methods for environments (port, other
     protocols, etc)
   * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
   * Added support for OS X under ESX
   * Added support for VMware VCenter
   * Added multilingualization to frontend
 
  VCL 2.4
   * Power management
   * Improve additional connect methods
   * Support for Spice remote display protocol
   * Scripted installation
   * Support for ESX OS for end users
   * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
   * Initial support for Libcloud
 
  VCL 2.5
   * Improve cluster reservations
   * Service deployment configuration management
 
  VCL 2.6
   * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
 
  The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a
  significant amount of the work already completed (largely by newer
  people in the community - - yay!).
 
  Josh
 
  On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
  Looks good.
 
  I would also like to see added to 2.4:
  * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
  * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
  the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
  * initial support for libcloud
 
  Aaron
 
  On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
 
  wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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   Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut
   by
   Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding
   small
   bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as
   we
   stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
  
   In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the
   next
   few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.
    Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left off
   of
   2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
  
   VCL 2.3 (this release)
    * Service deployments
    * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
      protocols, etc)
    * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
    * Added support for OS X under ESX
    * Added support for VMware VCenter
    * Added multilingualization to frontend
  
   VCL 2.4
    * Power management
    * Improve cluster reservations
    * Service deployment configuration management
    * Support for Spice remote display protocol
    * Scripted installation
  
   VCL 2.5
    * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
  
   Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Josh Thompson
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I like the idea of prioritizing items that are preventing people from using 
VCL.  I'll move power management and Libcloud to 2.5.  I think Spice will be 
taken care of with the work needed for NAT.  Having Spice makes us more 
competitive with commercial VDI solutions.

Josh

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:19:31 AM Andy Kurth wrote:
 I think 2.4 should include the highest-priority items which currently
 prevent some institutions/organizations from using VCL including:
 -IPv6 support
 -NAT support
 -Single network interface support
 
 Adding these makes the list for 2.4 ridiculously long.  I would
 suggest moving power management, Spice, and libcloud support to later
 releases.
 
 I think any feature can be worked on in the meantime if anyone is
 interested in doing so, but completion should not prevent 2.4 from
 being released.
 
 I would also like to plan a 2.3.1 bug fix release targeted for early
 to mid August, 2012.
 
 -Andy
 
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Mark Gardner m...@vt.edu wrote:
  Aaron,
  
  At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
  still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
  of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
  don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)
  
  Mark
  
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu wrote:
  Looks good to me.
  
  Anyone else? This is a community decision :)
  
  Aaron
  
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu 
wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How about
  splitting them up into two releases as follows:
  
  VCL 2.3 (this release)
   * Service deployments
   * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
 protocols, etc)
   * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
   * Added support for OS X under ESX
   * Added support for VMware VCenter
   * Added multilingualization to frontend
  
  VCL 2.4
   * Power management
   * Improve additional access methods
   * Support for Spice remote display protocol
   * Scripted installation
   * Support for ESX OS for end users
   * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
   * Initial support for Libcloud
  
  VCL 2.5
   * Improve cluster reservations
   * Service deployment configuration management
  
  VCL 2.6
   * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
  
  The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a
  significant amount of the work already completed (largely by newer
  people in the community - - yay!).
  
  Josh
  
  On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
  Looks good.
  
  I would also like to see added to 2.4:
  * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
  * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
  the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
  * initial support for libcloud
  
  Aaron
  
  On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
  
  wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
   
   Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut
   by
   Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding
   small
   bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon
   as we
   stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
   
   In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with
   the
   next
   few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.
Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left off
   of
   2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
   
   VCL 2.3 (this release)
* Service deployments
* Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
  protocols, etc)
* Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
* Added support for OS X under ESX
* Added support for VMware VCenter
* Added multilingualization to frontend
   
   VCL 2.4
* Power management
* Improve cluster reservations
* Service deployment configuration management
* Support for Spice remote display protocol
* Scripted installation
   
   VCL 2.5
* develop tools for managing both system and user storage
   
   Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Chris Jones
It would be nice to see IPv6 included for sure.  We at Clemson are
definitely wanting that.

Hopefully this wasn't mentioned before and I missed it, but is there a spot
to vote on what features are important to the community?  Like a survey or
something for interested parties?

Thanks for the great work, guys!

-ChrisJ

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.eduwrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 I like the idea of prioritizing items that are preventing people from using
 VCL.  I'll move power management and Libcloud to 2.5.  I think Spice will
 be
 taken care of with the work needed for NAT.  Having Spice makes us more
 competitive with commercial VDI solutions.

 Josh

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:19:31 AM Andy Kurth wrote:
  I think 2.4 should include the highest-priority items which currently
  prevent some institutions/organizations from using VCL including:
  -IPv6 support
  -NAT support
  -Single network interface support
 
  Adding these makes the list for 2.4 ridiculously long.  I would
  suggest moving power management, Spice, and libcloud support to later
  releases.
 
  I think any feature can be worked on in the meantime if anyone is
  interested in doing so, but completion should not prevent 2.4 from
  being released.
 
  I would also like to plan a 2.3.1 bug fix release targeted for early
  to mid August, 2012.
 
  -Andy
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Mark Gardner m...@vt.edu wrote:
   Aaron,
  
   At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
   still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
   of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
   don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)
  
   Mark
  
   On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu
 wrote:
   Looks good to me.
  
   Anyone else? This is a community decision :)
  
   Aaron
  
   On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson 
 josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
 wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How
 about
   splitting them up into two releases as follows:
  
   VCL 2.3 (this release)
* Service deployments
* Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
  protocols, etc)
* Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
* Added support for OS X under ESX
* Added support for VMware VCenter
* Added multilingualization to frontend
  
   VCL 2.4
* Power management
* Improve additional access methods
* Support for Spice remote display protocol
* Scripted installation
* Support for ESX OS for end users
* Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
* Initial support for Libcloud
  
   VCL 2.5
* Improve cluster reservations
* Service deployment configuration management
  
   VCL 2.6
* develop tools for managing both system and user storage
  
   The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a
   significant amount of the work already completed (largely by newer
   people in the community - - yay!).
  
   Josh
  
   On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
   Looks good.
  
   I would also like to see added to 2.4:
   * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
   * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
   the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
   * initial support for libcloud
  
   Aaron
  
   On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson 
 josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
  
   wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
   
Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate
 cut
by
Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and
 finding
small
bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As
 soon
as we
stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
   
In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with
the
next
few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to
 include.
 Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left
 off
of
2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
   
VCL 2.3 (this release)
 * Service deployments
 * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port,
 other
   protocols, etc)
 * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
 * Added support for OS X under ESX
 * Added support for VMware VCenter
 * Added multilingualization to frontend
   
VCL 2.4
 * Power management
 * Improve cluster reservations
 * Service deployment configuration management
 * Support for Spice remote display protocol
 * Scripted installation
   
VCL 2.5
 * develop tools for managing both system and user storage
   
Josh
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Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Josh Thompson
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Hash: SHA1

Chris,

We don't have any surveys or anything like that.  Things really just happen 
through discussion on this list.

Josh

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:13:01 PM Chris Jones wrote:
 It would be nice to see IPv6 included for sure.  We at Clemson are
 definitely wanting that.
 
 Hopefully this wasn't mentioned before and I missed it, but is there a spot
 to vote on what features are important to the community?  Like a survey or
 something for interested parties?
 
 Thanks for the great work, guys!
 
 -ChrisJ
 
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Josh Thompson 
josh_thomp...@ncsu.eduwrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  I like the idea of prioritizing items that are preventing people from
  using
  VCL.  I'll move power management and Libcloud to 2.5.  I think Spice will
  be
  taken care of with the work needed for NAT.  Having Spice makes us more
  competitive with commercial VDI solutions.
  
  Josh
  
  On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:19:31 AM Andy Kurth wrote:
   I think 2.4 should include the highest-priority items which currently
   prevent some institutions/organizations from using VCL including:
   -IPv6 support
   -NAT support
   -Single network interface support
   
   Adding these makes the list for 2.4 ridiculously long.  I would
   suggest moving power management, Spice, and libcloud support to later
   releases.
   
   I think any feature can be worked on in the meantime if anyone is
   interested in doing so, but completion should not prevent 2.4 from
   being released.
   
   I would also like to plan a 2.3.1 bug fix release targeted for early
   to mid August, 2012.
   
   -Andy
   
   On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Mark Gardner m...@vt.edu wrote:
Aaron,

At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I am
still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the footsteps
of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)

Mark

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu
  
  wrote:
Looks good to me.

Anyone else? This is a community decision :)

Aaron

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson 
  
  josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
  
  wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How
  
  about
  
splitting them up into two releases as follows:

VCL 2.3 (this release)

 * Service deployments
 * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
 
   protocols, etc)
 
 * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
 * Added support for OS X under ESX
 * Added support for VMware VCenter
 * Added multilingualization to frontend

VCL 2.4

 * Power management
 * Improve additional access methods
 * Support for Spice remote display protocol
 * Scripted installation
 * Support for ESX OS for end users
 * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
 * Initial support for Libcloud

VCL 2.5

 * Improve cluster reservations
 * Service deployment configuration management

VCL 2.6

 * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have a
significant amount of the work already completed (largely by newer
people in the community - - yay!).

Josh

On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
Looks good.

I would also like to see added to 2.4:
* support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
* initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely
include
the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
* initial support for libcloud

Aaron

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson 
  
  josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
  
wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate
  
  cut
  
 by
 Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and
  
  finding
  
 small
 bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As
  
  soon
  
 as we
 stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
 
 In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go
 with
 the
 next
 few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to
  
  include.
  
  Please let me know if there are any notable features that I left
  
  off
  
 of
 2.3.  Also, let me know what you think of the future features.
 
 VCL 2.3 (this release)
 
  * Service deployments
  * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port,
  
  other
  
protocols, etc)
  
  * Added framework 

Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-22 Thread Chris Jones
Works for me.  You can put Clemson down for wanting IPv6. :)

-ChrisJ

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.eduwrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Chris,

 We don't have any surveys or anything like that.  Things really just happen
 through discussion on this list.

 Josh

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:13:01 PM Chris Jones wrote:
  It would be nice to see IPv6 included for sure.  We at Clemson are
  definitely wanting that.
 
  Hopefully this wasn't mentioned before and I missed it, but is there a
 spot
  to vote on what features are important to the community?  Like a survey
 or
  something for interested parties?
 
  Thanks for the great work, guys!
 
  -ChrisJ
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Josh Thompson
 josh_thomp...@ncsu.eduwrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   I like the idea of prioritizing items that are preventing people from
   using
   VCL.  I'll move power management and Libcloud to 2.5.  I think Spice
 will
   be
   taken care of with the work needed for NAT.  Having Spice makes us more
   competitive with commercial VDI solutions.
  
   Josh
  
   On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:19:31 AM Andy Kurth wrote:
I think 2.4 should include the highest-priority items which currently
prevent some institutions/organizations from using VCL including:
-IPv6 support
-NAT support
-Single network interface support
   
Adding these makes the list for 2.4 ridiculously long.  I would
suggest moving power management, Spice, and libcloud support to later
releases.
   
I think any feature can be worked on in the meantime if anyone is
interested in doing so, but completion should not prevent 2.4 from
being released.
   
I would also like to plan a 2.3.1 bug fix release targeted for early
to mid August, 2012.
   
-Andy
   
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Mark Gardner m...@vt.edu wrote:
 Aaron,

 At some point I would like to put IPv6 and NAPT on the list but I
 am
 still working on the code. (I would prefer to follow in the
 footsteps
 of the others and have something working to back it up so maybe we
 don't want to put it on the schedule yet.)

 Mark

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Aaron Peeler fapee...@ncsu.edu
  
   wrote:
 Looks good to me.

 Anyone else? This is a community decision :)

 Aaron

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Josh Thompson 
  
   josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
  
   wrote:
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 That ends up making the list of feature for 2.4 pretty long.  How
  
   about
  
 splitting them up into two releases as follows:

 VCL 2.3 (this release)

  * Service deployments
  * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port,
 other

protocols, etc)

  * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
  * Added support for OS X under ESX
  * Added support for VMware VCenter
  * Added multilingualization to frontend

 VCL 2.4

  * Power management
  * Improve additional access methods
  * Support for Spice remote display protocol
  * Scripted installation
  * Support for ESX OS for end users
  * Initial support for EC2 API and OpenStack
  * Initial support for Libcloud

 VCL 2.5

  * Improve cluster reservations
  * Service deployment configuration management

 VCL 2.6

  * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

 The list for 2.4 is a little long, but several of the items have
 a
 significant amount of the work already completed (largely by
 newer
 people in the community - - yay!).

 Josh

 On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:02:11 PM Aaron Peeler wrote:
 Looks good.

 I would also like to see added to 2.4:
 * support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has
 done
 * initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely
 include
 the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
 * initial support for libcloud

 Aaron

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson 
  
   josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu
  
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  Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release
 candidate
  
   cut
  
  by
  Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and
  
   finding
  
  small
  bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As
  
   soon
  
  as we
  stop finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.
 
  In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go
  with
  the
  next
  few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to
  
   include.
  
   Please let me know if there are any notable features that I
 left
  
   off
  
  of

Re: 2.3 release status and proposed road map

2012-05-21 Thread Aaron Peeler
Looks good.

I would also like to see added to 2.4:
* support for ESX OS for end users - the work that Dmitri has done
* initial support for EC2 api, openstack,  this could likely include
the code that Cameron and Young have are working on
* initial support for libcloud

Aaron



On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu wrote:
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 Previously, I had stated that I'd like to get a release candidate cut by
 Wednesday of last week.  We've been doing lots of testing and finding small
 bugs here and there that have kept me from cutting the RC.  As soon as we stop
 finding bugs, I should be able to cut the RC.

 In each release, we include a road map of where we want to go with the next
 few releases.  The following is a starting point of what to include.  Please
 let me know if there are any notable features that I left off of 2.3.  Also,
 let me know what you think of the future features.

 VCL 2.3 (this release)
  * Service deployments
  * Allow for additional access methods for environments (port, other
    protocols, etc)
  * Added framework support for libvirt and specifically for KVM
  * Added support for OS X under ESX
  * Added support for VMware VCenter
  * Added multilingualization to frontend

 VCL 2.4
  * Power management
  * Improve cluster reservations
  * Service deployment configuration management
  * Support for Spice remote display protocol
  * Scripted installation

 VCL 2.5
  * develop tools for managing both system and user storage

 Josh
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