[VFB] test - just ignore

[Henk Verhaar]

said so...

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[VFB] testing

[Henk Verhaar]

It's been a great while since I was active here. Recently I've been seeing 
messages arriving in my mail system, only to disappear within a few 
seconds. Trying now to find out what the problem is here...

Henk

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Re: [VFB] What's everyone doing?

[Henk Verhaar]

As far as I remember the lower reaches of the dordogne should have runs of 
shad...

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Jun 2019, at 10:15, Beer mit  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I flew to France from Israel a couple days ago for a two week holiday with 
> the family. Fishing for carp in the lakes with the kids (they take carp VERY 
> seriously here!). 
> I am near Bordeaux so will flyfish the Dordonne (horrible spelling I am 
> sure). It is a big and weedy river but there are some narrow, quiey 
> stretches. Cannot travel without a couple fly rods in the suitcase. 
> So, it means that the boys and I will head out mornings and evenings, rod in 
> one hand, baguette in the other, and cold beer in the pocket and teach those 
> French fish a lesson. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Reuven
> 
>> On 17 Jun 2019, at 6:28 am, Gary Webb  wrote:
>> 
>> Fishing reports?  New patterns you are tying?  
>> 
>> Fishing here has not been too good.  We have had so much rain that the 
>> Mississippi by La Crosse, Wi just lifted the No Wake regulations that have 
>> been in place for a record 90 days.  Previous record was 46.  The trout 
>> streams are running a four times normal flow.  That seems to have caused the 
>> hatches to be off schedule.   Panfish spawning is affected too.  I have 
>> managed to catch a few fish.  But nothing is happening at the normal times. 
>> Part of the challenge, I guess.  A new (to me) fly I've tied is: Grillo's 
>> Hippie Stomper.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4rilByk4hU  .  it was 
>> created for trout, but I know it works for Bass.  My son in law has a pond 
>> behind his back yard and has just started fly fishing.  i gave him two and 
>> he caught a nice three pound Smallmouth on one.  Probably will work for 
>> Panfish too.  
>> Tuesday I'm scheduled to take two of my grandsons fishing.  We will go to a 
>> local pond and try for Bluegills. Normally this would be a guaranteed 
>> success.  But you never know.  The last time I took them they wandered 
>> around the pond trying to catch frogs. They had a great time.  Which is the 
>> whole point.  I remember doing the same for crawdads when I was a kid in 
>> West Virginia. 
>> 
>> Gary
>>
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Re: [VFB] wally wing tool

[Henk Verhaar]

>> But the link leads to a video, which demonstrated a needle which helps to 
>> split a thread, It's in German, so I'm pretty sure. 
>> 
>> 

Not sure whether this is the same tool, but Marc Petitjean has a bodkin 
especially for splitting thread, that is basically a sowing machine needle with 
a handle. I’ve made a number of these myself over the years (to sell and to 
give away); they’re dead easy to make. Get (buy, or pilfer someone’s sewing 
basket) a heavy sewing machine needle, like a jeans needle, and attach a 
handle. Viola...


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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Henk Verhaar]

I use tippet rings. Put em on the furled leader with a ‘loop-in-loop’ 
connection, factually a girth hitch.

> On 8 Oct 2016, at 18:12, Phxflytyer  <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
> 
> Henk;
> 
> Do you use a tippet ring or make a loop?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 10:51 PM, Henk Verhaar  <mailto:h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> 
>> Sorta - to keep it from absorbing water and making it easier to make it 
>> hydrophobic using a ‘floatant’ (grease). Also to stiffen it, helping in 
>> casting.
>> 
>>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 4:48, Phxflytyer >> <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Henk;
>>> 
>>> Is the BLO to make it float?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> Thank You,
>>> Alan Di Somma
>>> Phoenix, AZ.
>>> 
>>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Henk Verhaar >> <mailto:h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In actual practice, I never move my pegs around - I ‘make do’ with 7 ft 
>>>> furled sections using an ’11-5-3’ setup (resulting in a finished section 
>>>> with 22-16-10-8-6 strands of UNI 6/0 thread) for all my fishing, changing 
>>>> the tippet section to match the type of fishing. I did make an extension 
>>>> board to make 13 ft Tenkara furled leaders (lines) from UNI 6/0 - which I 
>>>> impregnate with boiled linseed oil, like traditional silk lines, only very 
>>>> low tech, just immersing them in the BLO until they’re soaked, then 
>>>> hanging them up to dry… Note that I don’t do this for normal fly fishing 
>>>> leaders (although, now that I think about it, I may just try that).
>>>> 
>>>> Henk
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5 Oct 2016, at 08:56, KP >>>> <mailto:kpt...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://globalflyfisher.com/fish-better/twined-or-furled-leaders 
>>>>> <http://globalflyfisher.com/fish-better/twined-or-furled-leaders>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has a description of how to make a board. Drill various holes so the pegs 
>>>>> can be moved to make a variety of lengths of leader.
>>>>> Hopefully e that helps
>>>>> Keith
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Henk Verhaar]

Sorta - to keep it from absorbing water and making it easier to make it 
hydrophobic using a ‘floatant’ (grease). Also to stiffen it, helping in casting.

> On 8 Oct 2016, at 4:48, Phxflytyer  <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>> wrote:
> 
> Henk;
> 
> Is the BLO to make it float?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
> 
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 5, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Henk Verhaar  <mailto:h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> 
>> In actual practice, I never move my pegs around - I ‘make do’ with 7 ft 
>> furled sections using an ’11-5-3’ setup (resulting in a finished section 
>> with 22-16-10-8-6 strands of UNI 6/0 thread) for all my fishing, changing 
>> the tippet section to match the type of fishing. I did make an extension 
>> board to make 13 ft Tenkara furled leaders (lines) from UNI 6/0 - which I 
>> impregnate with boiled linseed oil, like traditional silk lines, only very 
>> low tech, just immersing them in the BLO until they’re soaked, then hanging 
>> them up to dry… Note that I don’t do this for normal fly fishing leaders 
>> (although, now that I think about it, I may just try that).
>> 
>> Henk
>> 
>>> On 5 Oct 2016, at 08:56, KP >> <mailto:kpt...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://globalflyfisher.com/fish-better/twined-or-furled-leaders 
>>> <http://globalflyfisher.com/fish-better/twined-or-furled-leaders>
>>> 
>>> Has a description of how to make a board. Drill various holes so the pegs 
>>> can be moved to make a variety of lengths of leader.
>>> Hopefully e that helps
>>> Keith
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Henk Verhaar]

In actual practice, I never move my pegs around - I ‘make do’ with 7 ft furled 
sections using an ’11-5-3’ setup (resulting in a finished section with 
22-16-10-8-6 strands of UNI 6/0 thread) for all my fishing, changing the tippet 
section to match the type of fishing. I did make an extension board to make 13 
ft Tenkara furled leaders (lines) from UNI 6/0 - which I impregnate with boiled 
linseed oil, like traditional silk lines, only very low tech, just immersing 
them in the BLO until they’re soaked, then hanging them up to dry… Note that I 
don’t do this for normal fly fishing leaders (although, now that I think about 
it, I may just try that).

Henk

> On 5 Oct 2016, at 08:56, KP  wrote:
> 
> http://globalflyfisher.com/fish-better/twined-or-furled-leaders
> 
> Has a description of how to make a board. Drill various holes so the pegs can 
> be moved to make a variety of lengths of leader.
> Hopefully e that helps
> Keith
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Re: [VFB] Furled Leaders

[Henk Verhaar]

I'm pretty sure the globalflyfisher website has a description of how to make 
the jig, as has claude freaner's

Sent from my iPad

Henk Verhaar
Bonte Kraailaan 22
Almere

> On 4 okt. 2016, at 06:17, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
> 
> Mike:
> 
> I just spent the last hour looking on you tube for “how to make a furled 
> leader jig”
> 
> 
> Could not find one. By any chance do you have a web site?
> 
> Found…how to make furled leaders but no jigs.
> 
> 
> 
> phxflytyer
> Phoenix,AZ
> 
> 
>  "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government 
> take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
> Henry Ford
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Michael Bliss  wrote:
>> 
>> Alan,
>> 
>> I would go to youtube and type in furled leaders.  There are some nice 
>> videos there.
>> 
>> Mike B
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
>>> Does any one have the spec’s for making a furled leader set up?
>>> 
>>> I love using them but not for buying them. 
>>> 
>>> I would like to make my own but don’t know how to make the board?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> phxflytyer
>>> Phoenix,AZ
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the 
>>> Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American 
>>> Indian."
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>>> 
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Re: [VFB] Thread Colors

[Henk Verhaar]

Black, black, black, black, olive and red.

> On 25 Apr 2016, at 18:57, Michael Drew  wrote:
> 
> I just have a quick question. If you could only have 6 colors of thread to 
> tie with, doesn't matter what the denier or ought is, and there were no 
> Sharpies available, what 6 colors would you choose?
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Woodturning; was: [VFB] OFF TOPIC in the fishing groups Question???

[Henk Verhaar]

On woodturning

On 05/11/15 00:10, Chuck Alexander wrote:
Folks: I recently got a new wood lathe from my wife around the first 
part of May and I’m trying to get up an inventory (most things are 
selling as fast as I can make them, which is a good thing) in order to 
open myself an Etsy store to sell things on. So farm, bowls have been 
the biggest seller, but I want to make some Christmas ornaments (see 
attached pics), wooden eggs (see pics), goblets (see pic), and lastly, 
my question on this email is how many here still use an old fashioned 
rolling pin for making biscuits etc.
I’m attaching a pic and would like to know a cpl things about the 
rolling pins #1, would you use it??”
Yes. In fact, I have a number of rolling pins that I made myself. 
Including an ornamental huge pin made out of figured maple. I have a 
french pin in maple and a long straight pin (no handles) in lacewood, as 
well as a couple smaller ones. The only one that gets used on a regular 
basis is the long straight one (about 40 cm long, 5 cm diameter); used 
primarily for rolling pie dough. I also have a very long, thin straight 
one (2.5 cm / 1 inch diameter) for rolling pasta in brazilian rosewood.




and #2 would you buy one


Well, obviously, no, since I make my own, but if I didn't have a lathe, 
yes I would certainly buy one or more rolling pins. But then, I do a 
fair amount of baking, and a whole lot of cooking...

if the price were right (probably $20 each
Actually, I think a good rolling pin, made out of nice wood, could fetch 
more than that.
, but they last forever, for the ones made of common woods like oak, 
poplar
Oak, given its porous nature, would be a bad choice for a rolling pin, I 
would think, as would poplar (soft, porous, too light). I would favour 
the standards like maple, beech, or walnut.


Another nice little thingie that you can make on the lathe, that would 
be perfect to sell at an 'introductory' price level is a 'spurtle' 
(google that ;-) ), preferably with the traditional stylized Scottish 
thistlehead on top. A few burned rings at the 'grip' section would give 
'em character.


Henk

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Re: [VFB] Glass rod varnish

[Henk Verhaar]

> On 15 apr. 2015, at 15:14, Jack Harford  wrote:
> 
> This bottle of Gudebrod glass rod varnish came with an old Orvis fly rod 
> building kit I picked up at our club auction last year. I have not used it 
> before and found minimal info on the net.
> 
> Has anyone used this and what are the pros and cons.
> 

Yes, I used this stuff, way back when. It’s basically a spar varnish. Gudebrod 
have stopped ‘making’ (relabelling/marketing) this stuff years ago, and the 
label design is, AFAIR, from the eighties.

> Also would the number stamped on the front, looks like 9-85 be an expire date 
> or manufacturing date.
> 
Since it doesn’t say anything specific, I would guess it’s a 
manufacturing/filling date. Expiry would most likely be somewhere in ’87. I 
doubt this stuff is still usable - I certainly wouldn’t use it. 


> The rod kit is from the 80s I think, the old PM 10 early graphite.
> 
> Any info is appreciated. I am just about out of flexcoat and thinking about 
> trying this rod varnish on my wraps.
> 

Don’t. If you want to substitute something simple for flexcoat (and better BTW, 
flexcoat is basically just a commercial builders shortcut to building up a coat 
with multiple layers), use a classic spar varnish. One or two coats will not 
give you a ‘beautiful’ wrap finish, but it will be entirely functional - the 
main function of a coat being to ‘bond’ the threads together to create a 
firm/solid anchor for the guide feet. 



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Re: [VFB] Sparrow

[Henk Verhaar]

I'm not Hans, but I have been known to split hairs, errr thread too. 

Not all flies require split-thread (dubbing techniques). Split-thread dubbing 
is an alternative to dubbing-loop techniques that can offer superior results 
wherever it is a viable alternative. My prime example is the split thread 
dubbing-and-CDC-fibers (clamp transfer technique) caddis pattern popularized 
(and possibly invented - I haven't researched that) by Marc Petitjean.

All non-monofilament threads can be split, some easier than others. In general, 
non-twisted non-bonded threads are easier to split than bonded, twisted, or 
bonded-twisted threads. Danville flymaster e.g. is very easy, Gudebrod 6/0 and 
8/0 (currently only available as Orvis thread?) are easy, UNI threads need to 
be untwisted and 'unbonded' and take significantly more effort. My personal 
favourite if I want to tie with split-thread techniques are the Gudebrod 
threads, for ease of splitting coupled with overall quality.

Henk


On 31 mei 2013, at 10:31, Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Hans,
> 
> Do you split all threads or are there ones that you prefer?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Hans Weilenmann  
> wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Thanks for letting me know on the Sparrow, and how that worked out ;-)
> 
> On splitting thread - I know you will come to think and wonder how you ever 
> got on without it - I know I do.
> 
> Cheers,
> Hans
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> Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands
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Re: [VFB] Aug. 2012 Roll Call- Who's still here and tuning in?

[Henk Verhaar]

ACK

On 12 Aug 2012, at 3:00, "Don Ordes"  wrote:

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Re: [VFB] Soft Body Plastic Resin

[Henk Verhaar]

Soft body is a water-based polyurethane (I guess) latex, but it is formulated 
to give a high build, single application soft coat. Not many non-flytying 
latexes are formulated to give the same result. They are probably out there - 
not many products are formulated exclusively for fly tying - but you will most 
likely not find them among the mainstream products. But it never hurts to 
experiment...

On 24 Apr, 2012, at 23:24, Neville Gosling wrote:

> Several years ago, I bought a small jar of Soft Body Plastic Resin by 
> Angler's Choice. Unlike softex, which has harmful & toxic ingredients, Soft 
> Body was non-toxic, non-flammable and could be thinned with water. Angler's 
> Choice has, I believe, exited the fly tying market and although I have 
> located some online, it must be old stock.
> 
> Soft Body is opaque white in colour and dries clear. Does anyone on the list 
> know of a suitable alternative?
> 
> I wondered if Minwax water based oil-modified polyurethane would be similar. 
> See
> 
> http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/interior-clear-protective-finishes/minwax-water-based-oilmodifiednbsppolyurethane
> 
> the original Soft body may be found here: -
> 
> http://www.unexcelledfishing.com/images/stories/product_images/large_4db07204eced21303409156.jpeg
> 
> I use the thin version.
> 
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> Greater Vancouver
> BC Canada
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Re: [VFB] Big Thompson

[Henk Verhaar]

Yes, long time ago. There are multiple places along the canyon that are worth 
fishing, although I would probably head up to Estes park, to fish the first 
couple of miles of the tailwater. However, unless you have a specific reason to 
fish the Big T, I would probably recommend going a little further north and 
fish the Cache La Poudre, upstream from Ft. Collins. Or the South Platte in 
Cheesman Canyon…

On 20 Mar 2012, at 16:23, J Mck wrote:

> Has anyone ever fished the Big Thompson river in Colorado, if so
> do you have any recommendation's?
> 
> Jerry McKaughan
> P.O. Box 85
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Re: [VFB] Ifrustrated!

[Henk Verhaar]

Sure, but in this case Neville is correct, and we are in a transitional period 
where services are moving from MobileMe to iCloud, and MobileMe has been closed 
to new signups for some time, with iCloud not yet being operational. Situation 
will be resolved pretty soon - at least that's the word. 

Alternative would be to use a different web host...

On 4 okt 2011, at 01:39, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:

> Hi Neville;
>  
> I'm not sure how close you are to an Apple store but if you are, visit one 
> and make an appointment to have one of the store genius help you. I've been 
> amazed with the help the store genius has provided for Iphones and Ipods.  I 
> can't imagine that they couldn't solve your problem too.
>  
> Wayneb
> 
> From: Neville Gosling 
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 5:24 PM
> Subject: [VFB] Ifrustrated!
> 
> Well this is the frustrating thing - my mac mini is running Lion O/S and when 
> Igo to upload my new web journal, it automatically goes to "Mobile Me" but 
> when Iclick on that, it says that it is no longer accepting new applications. 
> Iknow very little about Apple but as far as Ican see, it looks like "Mobile 
> Me" is moving to Icloud.  Now Ithink that Ihave swapped one frustrating 
> company (Microsoft) for another (Apple).
> 
> Now Ifrustrated!
> 
> I am now trying to FTP to my webspace but t`aint workin`
> 
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Allan Fish
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:04 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Quiet List
> 
> > The wait time to speak to a network support person is about 1 h 25 mins.
> 
> Do you have support people who can actually speak English?
> 
> Wish I could help, but I've never tried uploading using Iweb.
> 
> 
> a.
> -- Allan Fish
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Re: [VFB] Mustad

[Henk Verhaar]

OK, didn't know that.

On 25 aug 2011, at 07:57, Neville Gosling wrote:

> Hi Henk:
>  
> You are correct, Mustad hooks were manufactured in Singapore, but I believe 
> their hooks are now manufactured in a “state of the art” Mustad hook factory 
> in China.
>  
>  
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>  
>  
> From: Henk Verhaar
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:35 PM
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] Up or Straight eye for streamers
>  
>  
> On 25 aug 2011, at 01:06, Neville Gosling wrote:
> 
>> Rodger:
>> 
>> Mustad is norwegian company but hooks now made in China presumably with 
>> Chinese steel. (could be Norwegian steel)
>  
> Actually, as far as I'm aware, they're made in Singapore, where Mustad have 
> their own factories. As for steel, I don't think we've seen a dive in hook 
> quality when Mustad moved their main manufacturing operations to Singapore.
>  
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Re: [VFB] Up or Straight eye for streamers

[Henk Verhaar]

On 25 aug 2011, at 01:56, Don Ordes wrote:

> Mike,
>  
> Again, it depends on a lot of things, mostly, the metallurgy and 
> forging/bending processes used to create the hook.
>  
> Understanding the basic metalurgy is helpful, but it's also somewhat 
> practical wisdom.  A metal maintains it strength when bending if it can 
> return to it's original shape.  Bending it beyond that means you 'yield' the 
> metal.  How far you go past yield will determine how much strength of the 
> metal you compromised.  If you heat the metal before bending, you are less 
> apt to break it, but you will have a more brittle metal once it cools.

Which can be counteracted by correctly retempering ('heat treating') it. Also 
remember that bending metal (as in plastically deforming it) 'work hardens' it 
in most alloys, meaning that at the bend, the metal will be harder, and more 
brittle, from just bending it. Also note that with elastic deformation (like a 
spring, where the metal returns to its original shape), comes fatigue, so over 
the long run, the statement that with elastic deformation a metal retains its 
strength is not entirely correct.

> I'm not too concerned with hook strength for fly-fishing, because the leader 
> will always be the weakest link.

Again, not necessarily. carbon-based polymers in fact have potentially a much 
higher tensile strength than steel; the ultimate reason for that is that 
polymers are defined by the strength of covalent bonds between the carbon 
atoms, and metals by so-called 'metal bonds' between the metal atoms. Major 
problem is that those covalent bonds only give strength to individual 
molecules, but if you can make molecules long enough to benefit from this 
strength at the macroscopic level, you have a material with a tensile strength 
up to 10 times that of a metal. This is why dyneema and other gel-spun 
polyethylene fibers are so strong: optimum individual polymer chain length, and 
more importantly, a manufacturing process that maximizes the interaction of 
individual polymer molecules with all adjacent molecules in the fiber so as to 
retain as much of the intrinsic strength of the molecules in the macroscopic 
fiber material.

ANd I'm sure all of us have, at one time, bent or even broken hooks (even hooks 
with no prior damage) by just pulling on our line...


> Not many people lift a very large fish out of the water on the hook, 
> especially flyfishers.  Bait-fishers and lure fishers do it and the gear is 
> sized for it.
>  
> I had a hook come in a box of Mustads that was way off spec, either for 
> metallurgy or tempering.  I put it in the vise and it was like a soft 
> plastic.  I could twist it like a baggie tie and tie it in a knot- it was 
> like a stiff piece of string.  No other hooks in the box were like that.

FUlly annealed and probably left out of the tempering batch...


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Re: [VFB] Up or Straight eye for streamers

[Henk Verhaar]

On 25 aug 2011, at 01:06, Neville Gosling wrote:

> Rodger:
> 
> Mustad is norwegian company but hooks now made in China presumably with 
> Chinese steel. (could be Norwegian steel)

Actually, as far as I'm aware, they're made in Singapore, where Mustad have 
their own factories. As for steel, I don't think we've seen a dive in hook 
quality when Mustad moved their main manufacturing operations to Singapore.

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Re: [VFB] Fw: Emailing: IMGP0031

[Henk Verhaar]

Barn owl. Beautiful bird.

On 23 Aug, 2011, at 20:07, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:

> What is it? Claws look like a bird of pray??
>   Jimi
>   USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
>   I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...
>  
>   Graviora manent
>   Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
> stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
>   http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/
>  
>   RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
> to be a
>   true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
>   about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.
>  
>   "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
>   because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton
>  
>   "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson
>  
>   "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
>   there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
>   right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton
>  
>   George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
>   he shot them!
> - Original Message -
> From: Wayne Blake-Hedges
> To: virtual flybox
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:45 AM
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> Should I pluck it?
>  
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Re: [VFB] IOFF ROLL-CALL

[Henk Verhaar]

Nope - I was away (I seem to remember being on vacation) when it was originally 
made up, and when I came back the list was closed. Or that is approximately how 
I remember it...

;-)

On 17 Aug, 2011, at 17:05, Don Ordes wrote:

> Henk, I didn't see your name on the IOFF list.  ???
>  
> DonO
> - Original Message -----
> From: Henk Verhaar
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> On 17 aug 2011, at 13:52, Anthony Spezio wrote:
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>> I am still here, I see I am Treasurer LOL, where is the money.
> 
> That's probably the last thing you want to hear from a treasurer...
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Re: [VFB] IOFF ROLL-CALL

[Henk Verhaar]

On 17 aug 2011, at 13:52, Anthony Spezio wrote:

> I am still here, I see I am Treasurer LOL, where is the money.

That's probably the last thing you want to hear from a treasurer...

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Re: [VFB] Zambizi Tiger fish...

[Henk Verhaar]

I have friend who hails from South Africa who has. I could contact him and aks 
from some info. Regardless, flashy, non-bulky pike flies with appropriate hooks 
should work.

Henk


On 15 Aug, 2011, at 22:51, ashley strutt wrote:

> Greetings all,
> 
> Quick question, don't suppose anyone has fished for tiger fish on the Zambizi 
> river by any chance?
> 
> I have a friend who has asked me to tie some flies for him and I'm wondering 
> what hooks are advisable. I have heard they're big and grumpy and want hooks 
> that are reliable.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [VFB] RE: Superglue creator dies

[Henk Verhaar]

You watch too much CSI...

Sent from my iPad

On 1 apr. 2011, at 21:19, "Don Ordes"  wrote:

> No one mentions the benefits of the Super-glue fumes.
> Dr. D
>  
> What Benefits?
> Buggs
>  
> If you don't know, we won't tell you.
> Veronica
>  
>  
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> Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Superglue creator dies
> 
> Hi Gary;
>  
> I love all the mystery surrounding super glue.  Found it interesting to read 
> a little truth about for once.
>  
> Wayneb
> 
> --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Webb, Gary  wrote:
> 
> From: Webb, Gary 
> Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Superglue creator dies
> To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
> Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 10:20 AM
> 
> And the best use of his invention was closing wounds of soldiers in Viet Nam. 
>  It is still being used for some surgical procedures.
> 
>  
> 
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Wayne Blake-Hedges
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 7:41 AM
> To: virtual flybox
> Subject: [VFB] RE: Superglue creator dies
> 
>  
> 
> FYI:
> 
>  
> 
> Creator Of Super Glue Dies At 94
> 
> Manufacturing.Net - March 28, 2011
> 
> <~WRD000.jpg> <~WRD000.jpg>
> 
> <~WRD000.jpg>
> 
> KINGSPORT, Tennessee (AP) -- Harry Wesley Coover Jr., known as the inventor 
> of Super Glue, has died. He was 94.
> 
> Coover was working for Tennessee Eastman Company, a division of Eastman 
> Kodak, when an accident helped lead to the popular adhesive being discovered, 
> according to his grandson, Adam Paul of South Carolina. An assistant was 
> distressed that some brand new refractometer prisms were ruined when they 
> were glued together by the substance.
> 
> In 1951, Coover and another researcher recognized the potential for the 
> strong adhesive, and it was first sold in 1958, according to the Super Glue 
> Corp.'s website.
> 
> Cyanoacrylate, the chemical name for the glue, was first uncovered in 1942 in 
> a search for  materials to make clear plastic gun sights for 
> World War II. But the compound stuck to everything, which is why it was 
> rejected by researchers, the website said.
> 
> President Barack Obama honored Coover in 2010 with the National Medal of 
> Technology and Innovation.
> 
> Coover died Saturday at his home in Kingsport, Tennessee, his grandson said. 
> He was born in Newark, Delaware, and received a degree in chemistry from 
> Hobart College in New York before getting a master's degree and Ph.D., from 
> Cornell.
> 
> He worked his way up to vice president of the chemical division for 
> development for Eastman Kodak. Coover and the team of chemists he worked with 
> became prolific patent holders, achieving more than 460. The work included 
> polymers, organophosphate chemistry, the gasification of coal and of course, 
> cyanoacrylate.
> 
> Coover also had a part in early television history, appearing with Garry 
> Moore for "I've got a  Secret." Moore, the show's host, and 
> Coover were hung in the air on bars that were stuck to metal supports with a 
> single drop of his glue during a live television broadcast.
> 
> The Industrial Research Institute, for which he served as president in 1982, 
> honored Coover with a gold medal and the U.S. Patent Office inducted him into 
> the National Inventors Hall of Fame in Akron, Ohio in 2004.
> 
>  
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Re: [VFB] RE: drying wood for turning

[Henk Verhaar]

Cut and rough-turn it wet, then air-dry or put it in a vacuum with silica gel 
for quicker drying. Reducing the dimensions of the wet wood will significantly 
shorten the drying time and decrease the hazard of crack formation.

Drying WILL warp the wood, so be sure to rough turn to dimensions that will 
allow final turning to the required dimensions even with significant warp.

On 17 feb 2011, at 15:40, J Balmer wrote:

> Kiln. Microwave just excites any liquid in the wood, causing it to heat & 
> expand, no drying involved. Depending on the moisture content, you might get 
> a nice explosion though…
>  
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
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> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:35 AM
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> Subject: [VFB] RE: drying wood for turning
>  
> Hi All;
>  
> I was splitting wood last weekend and ran across a really neat looking piece 
> of burled Oak. I got to thinking it would make a grreat reel seat.
>  
> Anyone know how to quickly dry  wood for turning??
>  
> microwave???
>  
> Thanks in advance
>  
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Re: [VFB] Elk hair

[Henk Verhaar]

Try Wapsi or Chris Helm?

On 10 Feb, 2011, at 6:34, Michael Drew wrote:

> I volunteer with Project Healing Waters here in Colorado, and we are getting 
> ready to teach the Elk Hair Caddis. I am trying to find a source for a fairly 
> large piece of elk hide that we can cut up and give to the soldiers. 
> Unfortunately, we don't have much money for a purchase, and I've been to the 
> local taxidermists with no luck with donations. Any help with sources will be 
> greatly appreciated.
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Re: [VFB] No rod casting- hauling, double-hauling

[Henk Verhaar]

> - Original Message - From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 8:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] No rod casting
> 
> 
>> I've seen pics of Henk casting with a very short broom handle,
>> maybe it was Hans.  I remember seeing the loop, but don't
>> remember if it was the forward or back cast

I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't me, I can't do that trick, although I fully 
understand the physix behind it ;-)

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Re: [VFB] Whiting Eurohackles?

[Henk Verhaar]

On 20 Dec, 2010, at 17:37, Don Ordes wrote:

> Dyed grizzly saddles, yellow and orange.
> Shouldn't be hard to get.
>  
> What L26. in dollars?
Prolly about 35...

>  
> DonO
>  
> What's an Euro-Chicken?  A chicken with only a left wing?
> Buggs
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> 
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> This is from an online advertisement by Lakeland Flytying. Whiting Eurohackles
>  
> I’d like the one on the left!  Any comments DonO!
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Re: [VFB] Not a good thing to do...

[Henk Verhaar]

I would guess this is a trick picture, but if not this guy would be a prime 
contender for a Darwin award...

Sent from my iPad

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> It's one of the laws of nature that the stupid usually remove themselves from 
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Re: [VFB] Horrible Trip!!!!

[Henk Verhaar]

You know - I've wondered most of my life what the heck the 'con' in con-man and 
con-job stood for. I've been told recently that it is in fact an abbreviation 
for confidence. Which in fact seems a bit of a misnomer to me, since it is all 
about confidence placed in someone (the con man) NOT worthy of it ;-)


On 27 Oct, 2010, at 16:52, Don Ordes wrote:

> Actually, it's not a scam, it's a con-job. 
> Buggs
> Well, Buggs, that true, but it's called 'fraud'.
> Dr. D
>  
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>> Hello all;
>>  
>> This is a hoax. 
> 
> Actually, it's not a hoax, it's a scam...
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Re: [VFB] Horrible Trip!!!!

[Henk Verhaar]

You're probably correct...

;-)

On 27 Oct, 2010, at 16:52, Don Ordes wrote:

> Actually, it's not a scam, it's a con-job. 
> Buggs
> Well, Buggs, that true, but it's called 'fraud'.
> Dr. D
>  
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> 
> On 27 Oct, 2010, at 16:34, Dan wrote:
> 
>> Hello all;
>>  
>> This is a hoax. 
> 
> Actually, it's not a hoax, it's a scam...
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Re: [VFB] Horrible Trip!!!!

[Henk Verhaar]

On 27 Oct, 2010, at 16:34, Dan wrote:

> Hello all;
>  
> This is a hoax. 

Actually, it's not a hoax, it's a scam...

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[VFB] Washington

[Henk Verhaar]

Guys,

I'll be in Washington, DC, come May 1, and am contemplating bringing my fly 
rod. Any must-do destinations within driving distance?

Thanks

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Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?

[Henk Verhaar]

I'll check my drawer with rod wrapping thread later tonite...

On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:42, Anthony Spezio wrote:

> Size "D" thread is used on Saltwater Boat rods, it is like Rope
> Tony
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Henk Verhaar  wrote:
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> From: Henk Verhaar 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:39 AM
> 
> I think a 'Size A' is usually the next size up from 3/0; if I remember 
> correctly, Danville's flat waxed nylon is size A. Standard rod wrapping 
> thread is a size D I think.
> 
> 
> On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:33, Allan Fish wrote:
> 
> >> A quick question.  Thanks.
> >> 
> >> How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to 
> >> a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is 
> >> supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 
> >> 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread?
> > 
> > The word "fine" is what throws you off.  It's "Fine" for rod building 
> > thread.  But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread.
> > 
> > Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread.   Well, maybe 
> > it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair.
> > 
> > I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 
> > 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters.  When we use thread designations of 
> > 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in 
> > the days of  "HGH" designations for fly lines.
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Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?

[Henk Verhaar]

I think a 'Size A' is usually the next size up from 3/0; if I remember 
correctly, Danville's flat waxed nylon is size A. Standard rod wrapping thread 
is a size D I think.


On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:33, Allan Fish wrote:

>> A quick question.  Thanks.
>> 
>> How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a 
>> page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to 
>> be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying 
>> thread?
> 
> The word "fine" is what throws you off.  It's "Fine" for rod building thread. 
>  But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread.
> 
> Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread.   Well, maybe 
> it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair.
> 
> I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 
> 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters.  When we use thread designations of 
> 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in 
> the days of  "HGH" designations for fly lines.
> 
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Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss

[Henk Verhaar]

It's dye capabilities it gets from the phenolic hydroxy group, which is quite 
acidic, due to those electron-pushing nitro groups. This makes the phenol 
reactive towards amino groups, freely available in keratin and other skin 
proteins...

Sloppy working with picric acid makes for permanently stained fingers.

On 15 Feb, 2010, at 15:46, Allan Fish wrote:

>> 
>> I have never heard of picric before. tell me more about this picric died 
>> fur... what is picric (some type of acid ?) and why is it good ?
>> 
> 
> Picric acid is 2,4,6-tri-nitrophenol.  As with other highly nitrated 
> products, it is an explosive.  However, it's also a BRILLIANT yellow with a 
> slight orange tint and makes a great dye.  In the early years of its 
> discovery (1700's, that's what it was used for.  Widipedia says its first use 
> as an explosive was in the mid-1800's.  Probably when some clumsy chemist 
> dropped a bottle of it and it went boom!
> 
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> Chemistry lesson over.  Now you can go back to your regular programming.
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Re: Picric - was RE: [VFB] colour chart / silk threads / silk floss

[Henk Verhaar]

It's not a high explosive though, and when kept moist, there is no risk of 
shock-induced deflagration (if I remember correctly, picric acid is incapable 
of detonation). The main risk is explosive decomposition of dried material 
trapped between container and screw cap...

On 15 Feb, 2010, at 15:46, Allan Fish wrote:

>> 
>> I have never heard of picric before. tell me more about this picric died 
>> fur... what is picric (some type of acid ?) and why is it good ?
>> 
> 
> Picric acid is 2,4,6-tri-nitrophenol.  As with other highly nitrated 
> products, it is an explosive.  However, it's also a BRILLIANT yellow with a 
> slight orange tint and makes a great dye.  In the early years of its 
> discovery (1700's, that's what it was used for.  Widipedia says its first use 
> as an explosive was in the mid-1800's.  Probably when some clumsy chemist 
> dropped a bottle of it and it went boom!
> 
> 
> Chemistry lesson over.  Now you can go back to your regular programming.
> 
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[VFB] Re: 20" Grayling

[Henk Verhaar]

On 29 Sep, 2009, at 13:36, Niclas Runarsson wrote:

> Like Wes says, they have a quite neat way of rising to the fly,  
> where they
> just let the stream lift them up diagonally backwards to the  
> surface... so
> it's always a good idea to place the fly a few extra feet upstream.

My experience with grayling in Norwegian lakes and fast-flowing rivers  
is that much of the time, they will actually jump for a fly. I've seen  
grayling jump clear of the water, to land on top of fly and grab it in  
the process, both on artificials and naturals

>
> We have many really good grayling rivers here in Sweden. Pictures  
> are from
> our week in Hårkan this summer (where we caught a looot of grayling  
> and one
> trout). My personal best and what kept us during the week: Grayling  
> and
> potato (in thin white bread)... "Northern Stream Kebab". LOL
>
> /Nick
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]on
> Behalf Of Wes Wada
> Sent: 29 September 2009 07:13
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: 20" Grayling
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> a grayling is a type of trout right??? Or not??
>
>
> Salmon, trout, whitefish and grayling all share a common ancestor.
> The are the species in the Salmonidae family.
>
> Some grayling have an iridescent coloration.  It's a very pretty fish.
>
> I actually have caught grayling while fishing in Wales.
>
> Grayling and whitefish also share a smell.  It's a pretty distinctive
> odor, not necessarily objectionable, but different and recognizable.
>
> Grayling will sometimes suspend themselves almost vertically drifting
> under a surface bug, before rising to slurp down the fly.
>
>
> Wes Wada
>
>
>
>
> >
> 


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[VFB] Re: tools and books question

[Henk Verhaar]

Wapsi sells strips of Primo Deer Hair, resold under different brands.  
Usually excellent for large spun-and-clipped patterns. Or try a local  
hunter or taxidermist...

Cheers

Henk

On 23 Aug 2009, at 4:21, Alan Di Somma wrote:

> I have tried to tie up some mouse patterns but I guess I don't have  
> the right hair.
> I cut as close to the skin as I can but the hair doesn't seem to be  
> long enough to make a big mouse.
> After doing a little trimming, it is only about 3/4" in diameter.
> Can any one tell me where to get some good spinning hair that will  
> make a mouse around 1 1/2" in diameter?
>
> Thank you,
> Alan Di Somma
>
> Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
>
> How come it takes so little time for a child that is afraid of the  
> dark to become a teenager who wants to stay out all night?
> - Original Message -
> From: J Balmer
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:04 PM
> Subject: [VFB] Re: tools and books question
>
>
> Next Time I tie a packed hair fly we’ll use your finger nailsJ
>
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]  
> On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:16 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: tools and books question
>
> Here is a Deer Hair Minnow that is packed with just finger nails. It  
> is packed tight enough to sand it with 320 sandpaper.
> Tony
>
> --- On Sat, 8/22/09, J Balmer  wrote:
>
> From: J Balmer 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: tools and books question
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 1:04 PM
>
>
> I haven't tied too many flies w/ packed hair, but when I have I've  
> found the packer to be very helpful, especially when trying to tie  
> several in a short period of time. I've seen people tie w/out one,  
> pulling the hair turns w/ thumb & forefinger of the left hand while  
> they work, but I'm not good enough to get it as tight as I like w/ 
> out it. Stacker is nice too & neither one was very expensive.
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf ofmystikalra...@frontiernet.net
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:46 AM
> To: vfb-mail
> Subject: [VFB] tools and books question
>
>
> Hello Everybody
>I just have a quick question about tools, the first one is the  
> hair stacker and the hair packer are they really worth it?? I like  
> to spin hair and i tie up some basic mice patterns for browns here  
> in oregon so what i want to know is the expense really worth it lol...
>
> the next one is about a book i really cant see spending 100  
> dollars on the bench side referance i have been looking for it  
> cheaper but to no avale lol i like to read about tying and trying  
> all new things and trying to mix and match here and there all  
> diffrent things lol so is the book really woth it or is there a  
> place that i can get a used one that is still in decent shape to be  
> read lol ok talk to everybody later
>
>
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[VFB] Re: question

[Henk Verhaar]

Well, as far as the list goes, IF it dies (which I don't expect any  
time soon ;-) ), someone else will surely step in and take over. In  
this day of ubiquitous Linux/OSX/Other *nix machines and widespread  
broadband connections anyone can run a mailserver from home...

On 7 Jul, 2009, at 5:11, J McK wrote:

>
> What will we all do if the Vitrual Fly Box dies, I have e-mailed the  
> web master about updating the web site
> and have had no response.  The site has had the same information on  
> it for almost a year.
>
> Jerry McKaughan,President
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[VFB] Re: Carrot Sticks

[Henk Verhaar]

On 18 Oct 2008, at 21:25, Anthony Spezio wrote:

> I have head of them but dismissed it.

As well you should. If you look at the patent, you'll see that  
basically what they do is to use cellulose (micro)fibers as structural  
filler, substituting some carbon or glass fiber. Since vegetable  
cellulose fibers are by necessity short, they cannot be used as basic  
fiber reinforcement (like carbon fiber or glass fiber) in structural  
tubes, only as secondary reinforcement, such as the whisker rods that  
Daiwa used to make, which used silicon carbide microfibers.

The main accomplishment these guys made was ensuring a way to select  
the cellulose fibers from the pulp such that they get a well defined  
and consistent quality, but IMNSHO, it is a gimmick more than a real  
'breakthrough'. Using carrot fiber, as opposed to multiple other  
possibilities, as described in the patent, is also a 'gimmick'.

Henk

>
> Tony
>
> --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VFB] Carrot Sticks
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 12:44 PM
>
> Hi gang,
>
> I found in the Cabelas Catalog some fly rods, which use fibers from
> carrots (yesss, from these vegetables) as replacement for the usual
> carbon, glass, fibers.
> Has anybody experience with these rods? Any idea where to get blanks  
> of
> carrots.
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> Rene
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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[Henk Verhaar]

On 10 Oct, 2008, at 12:28, Peggy Brenner wrote:

> Are you coming to NJ in November for the Symposium or in January for  
> the big show?  I'll be at both tying.

November.

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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[Henk Verhaar]

Not directly, no. Next trip will be Somerset, NJ, with a very slight  
possibility of something extra thrown in...

On 10 Oct, 2008, at 0:33, Alan Di Somma wrote:

> Henk:
>
> Any plans to come to Phoenix in the near future?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
> - Original Message -----
> From: Henk Verhaar
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> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:45 AM
> Subject: [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
>
> Yeah, especially commute congestion...
>
> Henk
>
> On 9 Oct 2008, at 02:54, Alan Di Somma wrote:
>
>> YEAH!! I resemble that remark...
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Allan Fish
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:40 AM
>> Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY
>>
>>  Naw, he was OBVIOUSLY talking about you, cawz as you scan on down,  
>> he said:
>> "And wonder if I'm getting too old."
>>
>> GOTTA be you!
>> Cheers,
>> A dubble-L
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I believe that he meant the ONERY FISH...
>>> You know the ones with TWO L's
>>>
>>>
>>> D&R
>>>
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:16 AM
>>> Subject: [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
>>>
>>>
>>> >Poem # 3 of 9. If you'd rather I not use my fly fifhing poems
>>> >in liu of quotes, let me know. If no objections, I'll continue
>>> >through poem # 9.
>>>
>>> Please continue.
>>>
>>> Thanks much,
>>> a.
>>>
>>> (although I'm not sure about #3 in which you say you're NOT  
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>>> --
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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[Henk Verhaar]

Yeah, especially commute congestion...

Henk

On 9 Oct 2008, at 02:54, Alan Di Somma wrote:

> YEAH!! I resemble that remark...
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
> - Original Message -
> From: Allan Fish
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:40 AM
> Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY
>
>  Naw, he was OBVIOUSLY talking about you, cawz as you scan on down,  
> he said:
> "And wonder if I'm getting too old."
>
> GOTTA be you!
> Cheers,
> A dubble-L
>
>
>
>
>> I believe that he meant the ONERY FISH...
>> You know the ones with TWO L's
>>
>>
>> D&R
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Allan Fish
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:16 AM
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
>>
>>
>> >Poem # 3 of 9. If you'd rather I not use my fly fifhing poems
>> >in liu of quotes, let me know. If no objections, I'll continue
>> >through poem # 9.
>>
>> Please continue.
>>
>> Thanks much,
>> a.
>>
>> (although I'm not sure about #3 in which you say you're NOT  
>> ornery)   :-)
>> --
>> Allan Fish
>> Greenwood, IN
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