RE: Apple getting cheap

[Simon A Fogarty]

So did you throw your old stream away or pass it on to an organisation that can 
recycle it or it's parts 

Throwing digital devices away in to landfill situations is not a great way to 
get rid of technology 

We need to be thinking more of how to recycle e-waste.

I know I've made mistakes and probably will continue to,

But I do try to make an effort now to recycle e-waste.

Overall I do agree with your thoughts 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bonnie 
Blose
Sent: Monday, 19 April 2021 11:19 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

Let's just think what Apple is saying is true. If we decide businesses are all 
about profit and only profit, is that good for them? We all live in the same 
world with diminishing resources. I will give an example. There is some worry 
about whether there is enough of the sand used for buildings and perhaps 
sidewalks. All the things on this earth are finite. There is a limited amount 
of anything. If you don't care about yourselves and decide we should have 
everything we want when we want it, how does that help future generations who 
will inherit the earth we leave for them? Is this what you want for your 
grandchildren and generations to come? Have you ever thought about how many 
things we throw away which don't have to be but are because the abilities they 
have aren't the newest and latest. Last week, I sat and held my very first 
generation stream for a half hour before I threw it away. It no longer worked. 
I felt sad about this. I did finally throw it away. Go ahead and laugh and 
think it is old technology and primitive by today's standards. It gave me 
pleasure I will always cherish.
I had a house fire in which I lost everything I owned. Perhaps because of that, 
I value what I own more than ever. I mourn sometimes still the loss of things I 
had no choice about. They are gone. I didn't get to choose.
I heard on a dateline episode that one year K mart bought a million plastic 
garbage bags a day. That is just for one company. We treat the earth as if it 
there for us and forget the rest. Many of the things we throw away could be 
used by someone. That takes us back to shipping and business which brings me to 
a very important point. It probably won't happen  but what should is that 
businesses and consumers work together. If the profit motive is all that 
matters or we are cynical in thinking only to get while the getting is good or 
to make things while making as much as we can, the world will be in dire 
straits. Not for us, but for those who will come later or are growing up we say 
we love and would do anything for. The fact is we probably wouldn't if it would 
inconvenience us. I am guilty too. When you use anything, throw away anything, 
multiply that by millions. Life is precious, and so is the precious earth on 
which we depend.

Bonnie Blose

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: April 17, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

I think I might feel like a real klutz with a Samsung, unless I had a very good 
and dedicated teacher willing to spend a whole lot of time teaching me how to 
drive the thing. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wendy Lin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Lol I don’t know how I’d feel switching over to Samsung myself since I’ve been 
an Apple user for many years.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:24 AM, James English  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because 
> for the most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't 
> care less about them. I care about things that'll affect me, and 
> having to pay extra money is one of those things.
> 
> On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> Good points, there,
>> 
>> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power 
>> brick,
>> 
>> Go buy a Samsung,
>> 
>> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their 
>> phones also.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>> 
>> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not 
>> buy an iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
>> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with 
>> likely
>> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on 
>> cost from manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those 
>> quantities, the difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the 
>> same price. It's not like they're getting out of the wall charger 
>> business. I mean, you can still buy one from them. It's just another 
>> way for them 

Re: No Longer Able to Activate Links in Amazon Security Alert Text Messages

[Mike Arrigo]

I just signed in to my Amazon account on my computer, this method does work, at 
least it did for me.

> On Apr 18, 2021, at 7:41 AM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sharon,
>  
> You are not alone in this because I have a friend using voiceover who had the 
> same problem. While focused on the message, have you tried turning the rotor 
> to links and then flicking to the link? I had a message on which that method 
> worked, however, I don’t think it was Amazon. By the way I got the tip from 
> this very list.
>  
> Take care and stay safe!
>  
> Debby
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sharon 
> Morton
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 10:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: No Longer Able to Activate Links in Amazon Security Alert Text 
> Messages
>  
> Hello,
>  
> For whatever reason, and it's driving me crazy, I can no longer activate 
> links in security alert text messages from Amazon.  Such messages get sent 
> when Amazon accounts are accessed from unknown devices, and/or when sensitive 
> account areas, E.G., change password, are accessed.  Normally, it's just a 
> matter of double tapping the link after which a page appears allowing one to 
> approve or deny the request.  On my iPhone SE2 running the current version of 
> iOS, double tapping such links does absolutely nothing.  I handed my iPhone 
> to a partially sighted friend, who, after I turned off VoiceOver, was able to 
> activate the link for me.
>  
> Needless to say, I feel somewhat foolish having successfully used iOS with 
> voiceover for several years and now find myself with a very basic problem.
>  
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>  
> Thanks and all the best
>  
> Sharon
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RE: Apple getting cheap

[Bonnie Blose]

Let's just think what Apple is saying is true. If we decide businesses are all 
about profit and only profit, is that good for them? We all live in the same 
world with diminishing resources. I will give an example. There is some worry 
about whether there is enough of the sand used for buildings and perhaps 
sidewalks. All the things on this earth are finite. There is a limited amount 
of anything. If you don't care about yourselves and decide we should have 
everything we want when we want it, how does that help future generations who 
will inherit the earth we leave for them? Is this what you want for your 
grandchildren and generations to come? Have you ever thought about how many 
things we throw away which don't have to be but are because the abilities they 
have aren't the newest and latest. Last week, I sat and held my very first 
generation stream for a half hour before I threw it away. It no longer worked. 
I felt sad about this. I did finally throw it away. Go ahead and laugh and 
think it is old technology and primitive by today's standards. It gave me 
pleasure I will always cherish.
I had a house fire in which I lost everything I owned. Perhaps because of that, 
I value what I own more than ever. I mourn sometimes still the loss of things I 
had no choice about. They are gone. I didn't get to choose.
I heard on a dateline episode that one year K mart bought a million plastic 
garbage bags a day. That is just for one company. We treat the earth as if it 
there for us and forget the rest. Many of the things we throw away could be 
used by someone. That takes us back to shipping and business which brings me to 
a very important point. It probably won't happen  but what should is that 
businesses and consumers work together. If the profit motive is all that 
matters or we are cynical in thinking only to get while the getting is good or 
to make things while making as much as we can, the world will be in dire 
straits. Not for us, but for those who will come later or are growing up we say 
we love and would do anything for. The fact is we probably wouldn't if it would 
inconvenience us. I am guilty too. When you use anything, throw away anything, 
multiply that by millions. Life is precious, and so is the precious earth on 
which we depend.

Bonnie Blose

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: April 17, 2021 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

I think I might feel like a real klutz with a Samsung, unless I had a very good 
and dedicated teacher willing to spend a whole lot of time teaching me how to 
drive the thing. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wendy Lin
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 11:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

Lol I don’t know how I’d feel switching over to Samsung myself since I’ve been 
an Apple user for many years.


> On Apr 16, 2021, at 3:24 AM, James English  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> The things that you've mentioned are not things I think about, because 
> for the most part (pandemic, climate change, gun crime) I couldn't 
> care less about them. I care about things that'll affect me, and 
> having to pay extra money is one of those things.
> 
> On 4/16/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> Good points, there,
>> 
>> Yeah if people are really unhappy about apple dropping the power 
>> brick,
>> 
>> Go buy a Samsung,
>> 
>> Oh that's right they 'are dropping the charging bricks form their 
>> phones also.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Friday, 16 April 2021 3:19 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>> 
>> Again, I think folks are missing the point. No one's not going to not 
>> buy an iPhone over a now no longer included wall charger.
>> It's that Apple's removed this accessory under the guise (and with 
>> likely
>> merit) of environmentalism when really, it's a way to cut down on 
>> cost from manufacturing, sourcing materials to shipping (in those 
>> quantities, the difference adds up quickly) and is still charging the 
>> same price. It's not like they're getting out of the wall charger 
>> business. I mean, you can still buy one from them. It's just another 
>> way for them to nibble around the edges, get some good press and keep 
>> the same price. It comes off as chincy from a brand that holds itself 
>> up as a luxury and consumer friendly company .
>> But no... people would rather carry on like a scold while again, 
>> missing the actual point.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Maria Campbell
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>> 
>> Stuff it!
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> 
>> All that is necessary for evil to 

RE: Apple getting cheap

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey folks as much as I like this group for the information that can be passed 
on between users etc,

This chat is really fucken getting annoying.

Can’t you find a real issue to ask questions and give answers about?!

Mark and Cara,
Enough is enough surely
Could we kill this topic
 And if you windging moaning f wits can’t stop, then take it off the list and 
let us get on with real world issues like trouble with apple devices!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2021 9:15 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

I have absolutely no doubt that Apple has received tens of thousands of such 
complaints at a minimum. Unfortunately, the environmental optics of this are 
too good to really back out of. The packing boxes can be much thinner. They 
have tons of repeat customers who already have chargers which they're totally 
happy with. There are many charging options out there for people to pick from 
even on Apple's own store. Apple does remind people to buy a charger during the 
process so that'll help somewhat. While Apple does take note of complaints, it 
doesn't seem to be prone to changing course because of them. They got massive 
pushback when they removed the headphone jack. Now, you almost never hear 
complaints about that. The overall customer base just gets used to whatever 
they decide. For people on the annoied side of these big decisions, there's a 
sense that it does more emotional good to vent on public lists than write to 
Apple. Until they make a truly unforgivable blunder, that's how things go in 
large ecosystems like this.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 4:14 AM Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
Morning all,

Having listened to people vent their personal thoughts on the pros and cons of 
apple not including the power bricks / AC power adapter in the packaging for 
phones etc,

I'm just wondering why You aren't all putting this in writing to apple directly 
rather than venting to a list where no one has the ability to change the way 
apple do what they do!

I'd also like to point out that apple have been selling products without the 
power brick included  in the packaging  since the device was released to the 
world markets,

That being the ipods,
I have never owned an iPod that had a charging brick included in it's packaging.

And I don't remember ever hearing people bitch about that not being there.

But back to previous comments,

Rather than venting to the list,

Why do you not all put your pen to paper and write to apple about this issue 
you have and see what they come back with.

For me, I've got enough bricks around to charge all my devices at once.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2021 5:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

There are a couple of issues here when considering Apple’s approach to chargers 
as I see it.

Firstly, I have six 5 Watt chargers here that came with various Apple devices 
over the years.  When I updated to an iPhone XR these 5 Watt chargers, one of 
them came with the phone will not charge the XR at its fastest rate which begs 
the question as to why it came with such a low rated charger in the first place.

I would rather not just discard these chargers, but finding someone who has a 
use for them is difficult as they probably have redundant units themselves.

Personally I bought a 18 Watt charger from Amazon made by Anker.

As I understand it, newer devices made by Apple come with a USB C to Lightning 
cable.  This implies that they assume people have a USB power source available 
which may or may not be the case.  After all, why supply a cable but no 
charger, why not both or neither.

I don’t consider it to be a rip off on Apple’s behalf I completely understand 
and support any action that is environmentally friendly.  But it does look 
rather inconsistent.

Yes, if you have an older charger and cable you can charge your new device but 
not at its optimal rate.

Apple are rather in a no-win situation, what ever they do will earn them 
criticism from some quarters.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 17 Apr 2021, at 18:04, Dennis Long 
> mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Anker chargers are apple certified.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
>
> Hi Maria ,
>
> This seems to becoming common place with a lot of different products that I 
> have purchased lately.
>
> I am guessing that so many people have an abundance of chargers laying around 
> that it is no longer 

Strange Issue with RS Games

[Esther]

Hi, Everyone,

Just this afternoon, I'm having a very strange issue with the RS Games app.  I 
was going to play a game with a friend and when both of us got into the Yotzee 
game, (I know I spelled the name of this game incorrectly) I went into Join 
Game, and  Put in all the information that was needed such as my password.  and 
clicked to play.  My friend began playing and scored his points.  Then it was 
my turn, but when I tried to play, there was that buzzing sound that sometimes 
is heard and I couldn't perform any of the keystrokes needed to choose such 
things as Full House, straights, etc.  I got out of the game, turned my phone 
off, and then on again, and the same buzzing sound was heard when I tried to 
play.  I also deleted the app and put it back on again with the same issue.  I 
don't know if I was locked out, or what the problem could be.  I've been using 
RS Games for many years and have had no trouble playing either with friends or 
with Bots.  In fact, I played last night with no issues.

Maybe I should try again tomorrow and see if I'd be able to play again without 
that buzzing noise.  If any of you have suggestions, I would appreciate them.

Thanks very much.

Esther 

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Need best description of how to use outlook in conversations.

[regina alvarado]

Can someone give me a place to look to learn how to read conversations in 
outlook with voiceover please? It is either that or can someone give me some 
instruction here? I have found where to delete conversations, obviously I can 
use compose and I found where to get to the next message. However where do I 
touch the beginning of the message or how do I read them in sequence? I also 
saw where you can use Cortana to play your emails, but I am assuming that we 
cannot do that. I generally like the app a lot, but just as I was confused 
about how to actually read the regular mail I’m confused here also can somebody 
help me please? Thanks so much. I know it must be something simple that I 
missing, but no matter what I do it skips messages and I can’t tell where to 
read them. Thanks again for any help with this. I wanted an app that would be 
better than the native app, but I seem to be still having as much problem with 
this as I did with the native app.

Reggie Alvarado

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Re: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

This should do it...

1. Touch the status bar at the top of the screen

2. 3-finger swipe up to bring up the Control Centre.

3. 3-finger swipe down to bring up the Notification Centre. 

Hope this helps.

Dave Clement
Winnpeg MB


On Apr 18, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:


I have my S E 2020 set up, I just can’t remember how to get to either control 
center or notifications from the home screen.
 
I know how to do it without the home button, but I can’t remember the reverse. 
 
 
 
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RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

[Noe Villeda]

I have my S E 2020 set up, I just can’t remember how to get to either control 
center or notifications from the home screen.

 

I know how to do it without the home button, but I can’t remember the reverse. 

 

 

 

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Re: How to display the keyboard?

[Ann Byrne]

It looks like if I turn the rotor to form fields it works.

Phew!
At 03:25 PM 4/18/2021, you wrote:
Does this problem occur after you’ve had the 
Bluetooth keyboard paired with your iPhone? If 
yes then I may have a solution. Let me know what your situation is.


Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone

True peace is not merely the absence of tension; 
it is the presence of justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.



On Apr 18, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

After clicking the search button on a 
particular web site, sometimes the keyboard is 
displayed and sometimes not; sometimes I can 
dictate the query but sometimes doubble-tapping 
just turns on music.  How am I reliably able to 
get the keyboard to show without using the bluetooth keyboard?


thx,

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Re: TIDAL MQA iOS Apple set-up for VoiceOver users?

[Kevin Chao]

Audiophile in-ears I got to experience MQA:
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_786GR10E/Grado-GR10e.html

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 12:57 PM Kevin Chao  wrote:

> AudioQuest DragonFly Cobalt DAC
>
> I ended up ordering the DragonFly Cobalt from Crutchfield
> 
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:00 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:
>
>> A fair amount of us blind VoiceOver users are into high fidelity sound
>> that music streaming services, like Tidal provide. Based on this video
>>  there are 5 things
>> required for TIDAL MQA iOS Apple Setup.
>>
>> The 2 things I’m curious to hear what others are using, recommend, and
>> are best for blind VoiceOver user are:
>>
>>- Headphone amp that is plug-and-play that doesn’t require switching
>>between different modes.
>>- Headphone recommendation to really appreciate and be immerse in the
>>TIDAL MQA.
>>I’m looking forward to lively conversation, great suggestions, and
>>recommendations. Thanks!
>>
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Re: How to dispoay display the keyboard?

[Kimberly]

Does this problem occur after you’ve had the Bluetooth keyboard paired with 
your iPhone? If yes then I may have a solution. Let me know what your situation 
is.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.

> On Apr 18, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> After clicking the search button on a particular web site, sometimes the 
> keyboard is displayed and sometimes not; sometimes I can dictate the query 
> but sometimes doubble-tapping just turns on music.  How am I reliably able to 
> get the keyboard to show without using the bluetooth keyboard?
> 
> thx,
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Re: TIDAL MQA iOS Apple set-up for VoiceOver users?

[Kevin Chao]

AudioQuest DragonFly Cobalt DAC

I ended up ordering the DragonFly Cobalt from Crutchfield


On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:00 AM Kevin Chao  wrote:

> A fair amount of us blind VoiceOver users are into high fidelity sound
> that music streaming services, like Tidal provide. Based on this video
>  there are 5 things required
> for TIDAL MQA iOS Apple Setup.
>
> The 2 things I’m curious to hear what others are using, recommend, and are
> best for blind VoiceOver user are:
>
>- Headphone amp that is plug-and-play that doesn’t require switching
>between different modes.
>- Headphone recommendation to really appreciate and be immerse in the
>TIDAL MQA.
>I’m looking forward to lively conversation, great suggestions, and
>recommendations. Thanks!
>
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RE: Customize the Charging Sound on Your iPhone or iPad, Here's How!

[Richard Turner]

Mike,
Have you done this from anything other than Apple Music?

I wanted to try it, but I don't want the short clip in the music library, and 
the author seems to say you can use Dropbox, but I'm not finding an option to 
use anything outside of Apple for the sound clip.

Certainly nothing important, but it would be kind of fun to try.

Thanks,


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Customize the Charging Sound on Your iPhone or iPad, Here's How!

I liked the original sound in earlier versions of iOS for charging; I called it 
the happy sound :-)

On Apr 18, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Mike B 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

https://www.idropnews.com/how-to/customize-the-charging-sound-on-your-iphone-or-ipad-heres-how/156209/


Customize the Charging Sound on Your iPhone or iPad, Here's How!
By Kelly 
Hodgkins
 Published: Apr 17th, 2021

article


iPhone owners are accustomed to hearing a familiar chime when they plug in 
their phone to charge. Up until iOS 14, you could not change this sound. If you 
didn't like it, there was nothing you could do about it unless you were willing 
to jailbreak your phone..

But, starting with iOS 14, Apple freed you from this default sound by adding a 
hidden setting that lets you customize it.

Though, changing this sound is not as easy as going into Settings and choosing 
a new sound.

This sound is controlled by the action of charging your phone and can be 
changed within the Automation feature of the Shortcuts app.

This automation option lets you set a custom sound both when you start charging 
and when you stop charging.

Preparing a Sound

You can choose music from iTunes or create your own clip that you can 
drop
 into Apple Music. Use a site that hosts fun sound 
clips
 you might like to try.

The shorter the clip, the better, as you don't want to play a five-minute song 
each time you plug in your phone.

You can use a music clip in iTunes on your Windows PC or in the Music app on 
your Mac computer. You also can upload a clip into Dropbox or your iCloud Drive.

Applying Your New Sound

Once your music clips are in place, you then can select them using the 
Shortcuts app as follows.

  1.  Open the Shortcuts app on iOS 14 or later.
  2.  Go to the Automations tab.
  3.  Select Create Personal Automation.
  4.  Scroll to the bottom and select the Charger option.
  5.  Select "Is Connected" or "Is Disconnected" to set the tone for when your 
phone is charging or removed from the charger.
  6.  Then select Next at the top right corner.
  7.  Select Add Action and then Media.
  8.  Scroll to find and then select Play Music.
  9.  Tap on "Music" next to Play Music.
  10. Browse through your library and select the song you want to play.
  11. Select Next in the upper right corner.
  12. Turn off the toggle for Ask Before Running, which allows the music to 
play automatically when your phone is connected to disconnected from the 
charger.
  13. Follow the steps to confirm the changes and hit done to create the new 
action.

Testing Your New Sound

You should know that this setting technically does not change the 

Re: Customize the Charging Sound on Your iPhone or iPad, Here's How!

[Kathy Brandt]

I liked the original sound in earlier versions of iOS for charging; I called it 
the happy sound :-) 

> On Apr 18, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Mike B  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.idropnews.com/how-to/customize-the-charging-sound-on-your-iphone-or-ipad-heres-how/156209/
>  
> Customize the Charging Sound on Your iPhone or iPad, Here's How!
> 
> By Kelly Hodgkins Published: Apr 17th, 2021
>  
> article
>> iPhone owners are accustomed to hearing a familiar chime when they plug in 
>> their phone to charge. Up until iOS 14, you could not change this sound. If 
>> you didn’t like it, there was nothing you could do about it unless you were 
>> willing to jailbreak your phone..
>> 
>> But, starting with iOS 14, Apple freed you from this default sound by adding 
>> a hidden setting that lets you customize it.
>> 
>> Though, changing this sound is not as easy as going into Settings and 
>> choosing a new sound.
>> 
>> This sound is controlled by the action of charging your phone and can be 
>> changed within the Automation feature of the Shortcuts app.
>> 
>> This automation option lets you set a custom sound both when you start 
>> charging and when you stop charging.
>> 
>> Preparing a Sound
>> 
>> You can choose music from iTunes or create your own clip that you can drop 
>> into Apple Music. Use a site that hosts fun sound clips you might like to 
>> try.
>> 
>> The shorter the clip, the better, as you don’t want to play a five-minute 
>> song each time you plug in your phone.
>> 
>> You can use a music clip in iTunes on your Windows PC or in the Music app on 
>> your Mac computer. You also can upload a clip into Dropbox or your iCloud 
>> Drive.
>> 
>> Applying Your New Sound
>> 
>> Once your music clips are in place, you then can select them using the 
>> Shortcuts app as follows.
>> 
>> Open the Shortcuts app on iOS 14 or later.
>> Go to the Automations tab.  
>> Select Create Personal Automation.
>> Scroll to the bottom and select the Charger option.
>> Select “Is Connected” or “Is Disconnected” to set the tone for when your 
>> phone is charging or removed from the charger.
>> Then select Next at the top right corner.
>> Select Add Action and then Media.
>> Scroll to find and then select Play Music.
>> Tap on “Music” next to Play Music.
>> Browse through your library and select the song  you want to play.
>> Select Next in the upper right corner.
>> Turn off the toggle for Ask Before Running, which allows the music to play 
>> automatically when your phone is connected to disconnected from the charger.
>> Follow the steps to confirm the changes and hit done to create the new 
>> action.
>> Testing Your New Sound
>> 
>> You should know that this setting technically does not change the default 
>> sound, but adds to it.
>> 
>> Plug in your iPhone and when all is said and done, you are going to hear the 
>> Apple default sound followed by your custom sound.
>> 
>> If you are creative, you can embrace the Apple tone and use it to complement 
>> your custom sound.
>> 
> 
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Customize the Charging Sound on Your iPhone or iPad, Here's How!

[Mike B]

https://www.idropnews.com/how-to/customize-the-charging-sound-on-your-iphone-or-ipad-heres-how/156209/

Customize the Charging Sound on Your iPhone or iPad, Here's How!

By Kelly Hodgkins Published: Apr 17th, 2021

article


  iPhone owners are accustomed to hearing a familiar chime when they plug in 
their phone to charge. Up until iOS 14, you could not change this sound. If 
you didn’t like it, there was nothing you could do about it unless you were 
willing to jailbreak your phone..

  But, starting with iOS 14, Apple freed you from this default sound by 
adding a hidden setting that lets you customize it.

  Though, changing this sound is not as easy as going into Settings and 
choosing a new sound.

  This sound is controlled by the action of charging your phone and can be 
changed within the Automation feature of the Shortcuts app.

  This automation option lets you set a custom sound both when you start 
charging and when you stop charging.

  Preparing a Sound
  You can choose music from iTunes or create your own clip that you can drop 
into Apple Music. Use a site that hosts fun sound clips you might like to 
try.

  The shorter the clip, the better, as you don’t want to play a five-minute 
song each time you plug in your phone.

  You can use a music clip in iTunes on your Windows PC or in the Music app 
on your Mac computer. You also can upload a clip into Dropbox or your iCloud 
Drive.

  Applying Your New Sound
  Once your music clips are in place, you then can select them using the 
Shortcuts app as follows.

1.. Open the Shortcuts app on iOS 14 or later.
2.. Go to the Automations tab.
3.. Select Create Personal Automation.
4.. Scroll to the bottom and select the Charger option.
5.. Select “Is Connected” or “Is Disconnected” to set the tone for when 
your phone is charging or removed from the charger.
6.. Then select Next at the top right corner.
7.. Select Add Action and then Media.
8.. Scroll to find and then select Play Music.
9.. Tap on “Music” next to Play Music.
10.. Browse through your library and select the song you want to play.
11.. Select Next in the upper right corner.
12.. Turn off the toggle for Ask Before Running, which allows the music 
to play automatically when your phone is connected to disconnected from the 
charger.
13.. Follow the steps to confirm the changes and hit done to create the 
new action.
  Testing Your New Sound
  You should know that this setting technically does not change the default 
sound, but adds to it.

  Plug in your iPhone and when all is said and done, you are going to hear 
the Apple default sound followed by your custom sound.

  If you are creative, you can embrace the Apple tone and use it to 
complement your custom sound.



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TIDAL MQA iOS Apple set-up for VoiceOver users?

[Kevin Chao]

A fair amount of us blind VoiceOver users are into high fidelity sound that
music streaming services, like Tidal provide. Based on this video
 there are 5 things required
for TIDAL MQA iOS Apple Setup.

The 2 things I’m curious to hear what others are using, recommend, and are
best for blind VoiceOver user are:

   - Headphone amp that is plug-and-play that doesn’t require switching
   between different modes.
   - Headphone recommendation to really appreciate and be immerse in the
   TIDAL MQA.
   I’m looking forward to lively conversation, great suggestions, and
   recommendations. Thanks!

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RE: Apple getting cheap

[Carolyn]

To me, it makes sense to sell a product with whatever it takes to operates, 
which includes, in my mind at least, a charger. So many people just put cable 
into computer, but when I do that with my wireless charger, my computer does 
not like it, protests from time to time, that an unknown device is being used, 
so I just got an old Victor Stream charger for the wireless cable, never though 
to complain to anyone at all about it, just found a solution. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap

There's a lot more to an Apple product then just whether it includes a charger 
or not. Of course, if this is a deal breaker for you then by all means switch 
to another product, but I don't think there's anything wrong with people asking 
for a charger with their product. It's perfectly understandable to me that for 
the price Apple is charging for their products one could expect a charger. I 
can also see where people can want a charger without having to change to a new 
device and ecosystem.

Of course, Apple may not listen or may have already made the calculation that 
the few sales they lose will be more then made up by how much they save by not 
including chargers or the good will they get by being more environmentally 
friendly.

As I've said before, I like Apple's move myself, but I see where people are 
coming from, and I don't think people should be told to just buy another device 
or be happy with whatever Apple gives them.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq

one other thing I'd like to say is that if you buy an apple product ask if 
there is a charger with it and if not buy one. nobody is forcing anyone to use 
an apple product just stop expecting everything to be there for you.

On 18/04/2021 09:24, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Use their computer or go back to where they go the phone and ask how 
> they charge it, And then take the advice of the sales person.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:38 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq
>
> So, what does a person do if this is their very first Apple device?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:28 AM
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>
>
> Apple figures everyone has extra charging blocks from all their 
> devices so the environment doesn't need millions more for the 
> landfills or that will end up in the ocean.
>
> BTW, USBC is not Apple's, it is universal; the lightning plug/ports 
> are Apple's exclusively.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
>
> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that 
> considering it's so proprietary? It came with the C cord but not the charger.
>
>
>
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How to dispoay display the keyboard?

[Ann Byrne]

After clicking the search button on a particular web site, sometimes 
the keyboard is displayed and sometimes not; sometimes I can dictate 
the query but sometimes doubble-tapping just turns on music.  How am 
I reliably able to get the keyboard to show without using the 
bluetooth keyboard?


thx,

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RE: Apple getting cheap

[Christopher Chaltain]

There's a lot more to an Apple product then just whether it includes a charger 
or not. Of course, if this is a deal breaker for you then by all means switch 
to another product, but I don't think there's anything wrong with people asking 
for a charger with their product. It's perfectly understandable to me that for 
the price Apple is charging for their products one could expect a charger. I 
can also see where people can want a charger without having to change to a new 
device and ecosystem.

Of course, Apple may not listen or may have already made the calculation that 
the few sales they lose will be more then made up by how much they save by not 
including chargers or the good will they get by being more environmentally 
friendly.

As I've said before, I like Apple's move myself, but I see where people are 
coming from, and I don't think people should be told to just buy another device 
or be happy with whatever Apple gives them.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq

one other thing I'd like to say is that if you buy an apple product ask if 
there is a charger with it and if not buy one. nobody is forcing anyone to use 
an apple product just stop expecting everything to be there for you.

On 18/04/2021 09:24, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Use their computer or go back to where they go the phone and ask how 
> they charge it, And then take the advice of the sales person.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:38 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq
>
> So, what does a person do if this is their very first Apple device?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:28 AM
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>
>
> Apple figures everyone has extra charging blocks from all their 
> devices so the environment doesn't need millions more for the 
> landfills or that will end up in the ocean.
>
> BTW, USBC is not Apple's, it is universal; the lightning plug/ports 
> are Apple's exclusively.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
> but what they become by it."
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Maria Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
>
> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that 
> considering it's so proprietary? It came with the C cord but not the charger.
>
>
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Re: Voice Dream Reader exporting text?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thanks, richard! I seem to have solved the issue by importing the VDR .txt 
files into textedit on the Mac and setting preferences to open and save as 
plain text. I don’t really understand the complexities, but at least it is 
working to read the files on the Focus Blue!
Harry

> On 18 Apr 2021, at 11:06, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> There is no documentation that I've found to say if they are UTF-8 or not.
> So, you will find out the quickest by trying one and see.
> Or write Winston directly. 
> I suppose you could bring up the properties on a computer and see if you can 
> find the encoding info that way...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:06 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> I want to get files from Voice Dream Reader in plain text format so that I 
>> can put them on the micro SD card which I can then insert into my new Focus 
>> Blue 14 5th generation. If I open a VDR file, double tap on Document and 
>> select all text, will the exported .txt file be UTF-8 formatted plain text 
>> which the Focus guide insists is the only acceptable plain text format for 
>> Scratchpad?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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RE: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan Lemly

[Richard Turner]

If the SIMM  is there, check with AT to see if the new phone  is set to be 
activated which would then have your number active on the new phone and not the 
old phone.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan Lemly

Hello Noe,

If you got your phone from AT, it probably already has a sim card in it. If 
it doesn't, you'll be asked for one during setup. In that case, the phone will 
include a tool in the box for removing the sim card. There's a small hole on 
the right side of the phone that the tool fits in. You slide in the tool and 
press, and a little tray containing the sim card pops out. Replace the old one 
with the new. It only fits one way.

Best,
Anna
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:38 AM, Noe Villeda 
mailto:noeville...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello group,

I will try to set up my S E 2020 tomorrow.

How do I remove the sim card from my old phone, to install it to the 2020? I 
received this phone from AT, and I have no clue how to switch out the sim 
card.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan Lemly

Greetings,
Since alan did such a thorough job of writing out the steps to transfer data 
from your old iPhone to a new one, I asked him if I could post it on my web 
site as a word file.
Fortuantely, he said yes.
If you are looking for it, you can go to my web site: 
www.turner42.com
 and look for the words: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan 
Lemly.
If you navigate by headings and get to the UsefulApps heading, I tis the link 
just before that.
You can either click on it which will either open it or ask you if you want to 
save it, all depending on your browser settings; or use your applications key 
or shift+f10 and select save target as and save it that way.

This way, if someone asks about doing the Wireless Transfer, it will be 
available.

HTH,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
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Re: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan Lemly

[Anna Dresner]

Hello Noe,

If you got your phone from AT, it probably already has a sim card in it. If 
it doesn't, you'll be asked for one during setup. In that case, the phone will 
include a tool in the box for removing the sim card. There's a small hole on 
the right side of the phone that the tool fits in. You slide in the tool and 
press, and a little tray containing the sim card pops out. Replace the old one 
with the new. It only fits one way.

Best,
Anna 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2021, at 1:38 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello group,
>  
> I will try to set up my S E 2020 tomorrow.
>  
> How do I remove the sim card from my old phone, to install it to the 2020? I 
> received this phone from AT, and I have no clue how to switch out the sim 
> card.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 8:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan Lemly
>  
> Greetings,
> Since alan did such a thorough job of writing out the steps to transfer data 
> from your old iPhone to a new one, I asked him if I could post it on my web 
> site as a word file.
> Fortuantely, he said yes.
> If you are looking for it, you can go to my web site: www.turner42.com and 
> look for the words: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan 
> Lemly.
> If you navigate by headings and get to the UsefulApps heading, I tis the link 
> just before that.
> You can either click on it which will either open it or ask you if you want 
> to save it, all depending on your browser settings; or use your applications 
> key or shift+f10 and select save target as and save it that way.
>  
> This way, if someone asks about doing the Wireless Transfer, it will be 
> available.
>  
> HTH,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
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RE: No Longer Able to Activate Links in Amazon Security Alert Text Messages

[Debby]

Hi Sharon,

 

You are not alone in this because I have a friend using voiceover who had the 
same problem. While focused on the message, have you tried turning the rotor to 
links and then flicking to the link? I had a message on which that method 
worked, however, I don’t think it was Amazon. By the way I got the tip from 
this very list.

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sharon 
Morton
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: No Longer Able to Activate Links in Amazon Security Alert Text Messages

 

Hello,

 

For whatever reason, and it's driving me crazy, I can no longer activate links 
in security alert text messages from Amazon.  Such messages get sent when 
Amazon accounts are accessed from unknown devices, and/or when sensitive 
account areas, E.G., change password, are accessed.  Normally, it's just a 
matter of double tapping the link after which a page appears allowing one to 
approve or deny the request.  On my iPhone SE2 running the current version of 
iOS, double tapping such links does absolutely nothing.  I handed my iPhone to 
a partially sighted friend, who, after I turned off VoiceOver, was able to 
activate the link for me.

 

Needless to say, I feel somewhat foolish having successfully used iOS with 
voiceover for several years and now find myself with a very basic problem.

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Thanks and all the best

 

Sharon

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Re: Apple getting cheapq

[lenron brown]

Damn people are insane. You expect certain things from a company
because of what they provide. Apple could just sell some of you the
battery for the phone and you would buck up and buy every single
peace. Anyways yes if you can get the fast charger it makes things
loads better. Apple should have been selling these in the box for
years.

On 4/18/21, Janet Bell  wrote:
> one other thing I'd like to say is that if you buy an apple product ask
> if there is a charger with it and if not buy one. nobody is forcing
> anyone to use an apple product just stop expecting everything to be
> there for you.
>
> On 18/04/2021 09:24, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> Use their computer or go back to where they go the phone and ask how they
>> charge it,
>> And then take the advice of the sales person.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:38 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq
>>
>> So, what does a person do if this is their very first Apple device?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Richard Turner" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:28 AM
>> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq
>>
>>
>> Apple figures everyone has extra charging blocks from all their devices
>> so
>> the environment doesn't need millions more for the landfills or that will
>> end up in the ocean.
>>
>> BTW, USBC is not Apple's, it is universal; the lightning plug/ports are
>> Apple's exclusively.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
>> what they become by it."
>> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
>>
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Maria
>> Campbell
>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:27 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
>>
>> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that
>> considering
>> it's so proprietary? It came with the C cord but not the charger.
>>
>>
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Re: Voice Dream Reader exporting text?

[Richard Turner]

There is no documentation that I've found to say if they are UTF-8 or not.
So, you will find out the quickest by trying one and see.
Or write Winston directly.
I suppose you could bring up the properties on a computer and see if you can 
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On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:06 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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I want to get files from Voice Dream Reader in plain text format so that I can 
put them on the micro SD card which I can then insert into my new Focus Blue 14 
5th generation. If I open a VDR file, double tap on Document and select all 
text, will the exported .txt file be UTF-8 formatted plain text which the Focus 
guide insists is the only acceptable plain text format for Scratchpad?
Thanks
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Re: Apple getting cheapq

[Janet Bell]

one other thing I'd like to say is that if you buy an apple product ask 
if there is a charger with it and if not buy one. nobody is forcing 
anyone to use an apple product just stop expecting everything to be 
there for you.


On 18/04/2021 09:24, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Use their computer or go back to where they go the phone and ask how they 
charge it,
And then take the advice of the sales person.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq

So, what does a person do if this is their very first Apple device?
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq


Apple figures everyone has extra charging blocks from all their devices so
the environment doesn't need millions more for the landfills or that will
end up in the ocean.

BTW, USBC is not Apple's, it is universal; the lightning plug/ports are
Apple's exclusively.



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple getting cheapq

My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that considering
it's so proprietary? It came with the C cord but not the charger.



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Re: Apple getting cheap

[Michael Feir]

I have absolutely no doubt that Apple has received tens of thousands of
such complaints at a minimum. Unfortunately, the environmental optics of
this are too good to really back out of. The packing boxes can be much
thinner. They have tons of repeat customers who already have chargers which
they're totally happy with. There are many charging options out there for
people to pick from even on Apple's own store. Apple does remind people to
buy a charger during the process so that'll help somewhat. While Apple does
take note of complaints, it doesn't seem to be prone to changing course
because of them. They got massive pushback when they removed the headphone
jack. Now, you almost never hear complaints about that. The overall
customer base just gets used to whatever they decide. For people on the
annoied side of these big decisions, there's a sense that it does more
emotional good to vent on public lists than write to Apple. Until they make
a truly unforgivable blunder, that's how things go in large ecosystems like
this.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 4:14 AM Simon A Fogarty 
wrote:

> Morning all,
>
> Having listened to people vent their personal thoughts on the pros and
> cons of apple not including the power bricks / AC power adapter in the
> packaging for phones etc,
>
> I'm just wondering why You aren't all putting this in writing to apple
> directly rather than venting to a list where no one has the ability to
> change the way apple do what they do!
>
> I'd also like to point out that apple have been selling products without
> the power brick included  in the packaging  since the device was released
> to the world markets,
>
> That being the ipods,
> I have never owned an iPod that had a charging brick included in it's
> packaging.
>
> And I don't remember ever hearing people bitch about that not being there.
>
> But back to previous comments,
>
> Rather than venting to the list,
>
> Why do you not all put your pen to paper and write to apple about this
> issue you have and see what they come back with.
>
> For me, I've got enough bricks around to charge all my devices at once.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2021 5:10 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap
>
> There are a couple of issues here when considering Apple’s approach to
> chargers as I see it.
>
> Firstly, I have six 5 Watt chargers here that came with various Apple
> devices over the years.  When I updated to an iPhone XR these 5 Watt
> chargers, one of them came with the phone will not charge the XR at its
> fastest rate which begs the question as to why it came with such a low
> rated charger in the first place.
>
> I would rather not just discard these chargers, but finding someone who
> has a use for them is difficult as they probably have redundant units
> themselves.
>
> Personally I bought a 18 Watt charger from Amazon made by Anker.
>
> As I understand it, newer devices made by Apple come with a USB C to
> Lightning cable.  This implies that they assume people have a USB power
> source available which may or may not be the case.  After all, why supply a
> cable but no charger, why not both or neither.
>
> I don’t consider it to be a rip off on Apple’s behalf I completely
> understand and support any action that is environmentally friendly.  But it
> does look rather inconsistent.
>
> Yes, if you have an older charger and cable you can charge your new device
> but not at its optimal rate.
>
> Apple are rather in a no-win situation, what ever they do will earn them
> criticism from some quarters.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
> > On 17 Apr 2021, at 18:04, Dennis Long  wrote:
> >
> > Anker chargers are apple certified.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:39 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
> >
> > Hi Maria ,
> >
> > This seems to becoming common place with a lot of different products
> that I have purchased lately.
> >
> > I am guessing that so many people have an abundance of chargers laying
> around that it is no longer necessary to include an AC  charger.
> >
> > If a person does not have a spare charger laying around, then, this is a
> major bummer.
> >
> > In my case, I am glad that my SE 2020 did not come with a charger
> because I would have had to pay more for the phone to get a charger.  No
> charges for accessories are paid for by the manufacturer.  The additional
> cost are always absorbed by the purchaser which means higher prices.
> >
> > Amazon is an excellent place to find a multitude of different types of
> chargers.  Some even have surge protection, multiple USB ports, and even
> multiple AC outlets.  Just make sure that it is Apple certified.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > James B
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Maria 

RE: Apple getting cheapq

[Simon A Fogarty]

Use their computer or go back to where they go the phone and ask how they 
charge it,
And then take the advice of the sales person.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheapq

So, what does a person do if this is their very first Apple device?
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Apple getting cheapq


Apple figures everyone has extra charging blocks from all their devices so 
the environment doesn't need millions more for the landfills or that will 
end up in the ocean.

BTW, USBC is not Apple's, it is universal; the lightning plug/ports are 
Apple's exclusively.



Richard
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what they become by it."
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple getting cheapq

My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger. How cheap is that considering 
it's so proprietary? It came with the C cord but not the charger.



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RE: Apple getting cheap

[Simon A Fogarty]

Morning all,

Having listened to people vent their personal thoughts on the pros and cons of 
apple not including the power bricks / AC power adapter in the packaging for 
phones etc,

I'm just wondering why You aren't all putting this in writing to apple directly 
rather than venting to a list where no one has the ability to change the way 
apple do what they do!

I'd also like to point out that apple have been selling products without the 
power brick included  in the packaging  since the device was released to the 
world markets,

That being the ipods,
I have never owned an iPod that had a charging brick included in it's packaging.

And I don't remember ever hearing people bitch about that not being there.

But back to previous comments,

Rather than venting to the list,

Why do you not all put your pen to paper and write to apple about this issue 
you have and see what they come back with.

For me, I've got enough bricks around to charge all my devices at once.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2021 5:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple getting cheap

There are a couple of issues here when considering Apple’s approach to chargers 
as I see it.

Firstly, I have six 5 Watt chargers here that came with various Apple devices 
over the years.  When I updated to an iPhone XR these 5 Watt chargers, one of 
them came with the phone will not charge the XR at its fastest rate which begs 
the question as to why it came with such a low rated charger in the first place.

I would rather not just discard these chargers, but finding someone who has a 
use for them is difficult as they probably have redundant units themselves.

Personally I bought a 18 Watt charger from Amazon made by Anker.

As I understand it, newer devices made by Apple come with a USB C to Lightning 
cable.  This implies that they assume people have a USB power source available 
which may or may not be the case.  After all, why supply a cable but no 
charger, why not both or neither.

I don’t consider it to be a rip off on Apple’s behalf I completely understand 
and support any action that is environmentally friendly.  But it does look 
rather inconsistent.

Yes, if you have an older charger and cable you can charge your new device but 
not at its optimal rate.

Apple are rather in a no-win situation, what ever they do will earn them 
criticism from some quarters.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 17 Apr 2021, at 18:04, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Anker chargers are apple certified.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 1:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple getting cheap
> 
> Hi Maria ,
> 
> This seems to becoming common place with a lot of different products that I 
> have purchased lately.
> 
> I am guessing that so many people have an abundance of chargers laying around 
> that it is no longer necessary to include an AC  charger.
> 
> If a person does not have a spare charger laying around, then, this is a 
> major bummer.
> 
> In my case, I am glad that my SE 2020 did not come with a charger because I 
> would have had to pay more for the phone to get a charger.  No charges for 
> accessories are paid for by the manufacturer.  The additional cost are always 
> absorbed by the purchaser which means higher prices.
> 
> Amazon is an excellent place to find a multitude of different types of 
> chargers.  Some even have surge protection, multiple USB ports, and even 
> multiple AC outlets.  Just make sure that it is Apple certified.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James B  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple getting cheapq
> 
> My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger.  How cheap is that considering 
> it's so proprietary?  It came with the C cord but not the charger.
> 
> 
> 
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Voice Dream Reader exporting text?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I want to get files from Voice Dream Reader in plain text format so that I can 
put them on the micro SD card which I can then insert into my new Focus Blue 14 
5th generation. If I open a VDR file, double tap on Document and select all 
text, will the exported .txt file be UTF-8 formatted plain text which the Focus 
guide insists is the only acceptable plain text format for Scratchpad?
Thanks
Harry

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RE: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan Lemly

[Noe Villeda]

Hello group,

 

I will try to set up my S E 2020 tomorrow.

 

How do I remove the sim card from my old phone, to install it to the 2020? I 
received this phone from AT, and I have no clue how to switch out the sim 
card.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2021 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Setting up new iPhone with wireless transfer by Alan Lemly

 

Greetings,

Since alan did such a thorough job of writing out the steps to transfer data 
from your old iPhone to a new one, I asked him if I could post it on my web 
site as a word file.

Fortuantely, he said yes.

If you are looking for it, you can go to my web site: www.turner42.com 
  and look for the words: Setting up new iPhone with 
wireless transfer by Alan Lemly.

If you navigate by headings and get to the UsefulApps heading, I tis the link 
just before that.

You can either click on it which will either open it or ask you if you want to 
save it, all depending on your browser settings; or use your applications key 
or shift+f10 and select save target as and save it that way.

 

This way, if someone asks about doing the Wireless Transfer, it will be 
available.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

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