[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T76233: make it possible to easily clone an existing reference from the same item

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Not sure if duplicating is the best solution. On Wikipedia we have one 
reference that we use multiple times. If an url changes, you just have to 
change it once. If the reference would be duplicated, you would have to do it 
multiple times (or you risk forgetting the update the others).

We talked about the concept of "subitems" in the past to cover this use case.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99670: Irregular language fallback when using arbitrary access

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The problem of 
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jan_Ainali_(WMSE)/Kladblok is tracked 
in the latter bug.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T99670: Irregular language fallback when using arbitrary access

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Bugreporter closed this task as a duplicate of T76217: language fallback for 
the property parser function.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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Change 212486 merged by jenkins-bot:
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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That made it work, example: 
https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-qunit/9817/console


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Change 212486 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aaron Schulz):
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Change 212477 merged by Ori.livneh:
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Change 212473 merged by jenkins-bot:
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99775#1300392, @JanZerebecki wrote:

> Regarding the curl error: curl --fail only ommits any output in the HTTP 
> status failure case. In sh false | true will be true. Bash has the option 
> pipefail to change this to more expected behaviour. However in this case I 
> think just omitting the tail is fine.
>
> The curl error was also happening when all tests pass, see e.g.: 
> https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-qunit/9770/consoleFull


Filled as T99854: JJB qunit macro ignore curl error exit code 



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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99775#1300343, @daniel wrote:

> > 1 buffered job(s) never inserted.
>
>
> I have seen this locally, screwing up API responses. Seems broken. I wonder 
> why it doesn't happen with core tests, though.


That is unclear to me.  I guess none of the PHPUnit tests are exercising that 
code path and the mediawiki core QUnit tests do not exercise that code path 
either.  But the api.php queries made by Wikibase ends up exercising the code 
and dieing.

One sure thing the feature introduced by 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211320/ does not have any test :-D

In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99775#1300379, @Legoktm wrote:

> Related to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99849?


Yeah seems to be the exact same issue :-}


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Change 212473 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aaron Schulz):
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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curl --fail only ommits any output in the HTTP status failure case. In sh false 
| true will be true. Bash has the option pipefail to change this to more 
expected behaviour. However in this case I think just omitting the tail is fine.

However the error you pointed out was also happening when all tests pass, see 
e.g.: 
https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-qunit/9770/consoleFull

So the issue is somewhere else.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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Related to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99849?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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@hashar but strange that even with pulling master core, I don't get the 
failures locally. could be my settings or something though and the Exceptions 
are odd.

also note that the RepoApi qunit tests succeed when run alone in the 
WikibaseJavaScriptApi component (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/212284/)  I 
think it's been some time since we submitted patches there, until today.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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> 1 buffered job(s) never inserted.


I have seen this locally, screwing up API responses. Seems broken. I wonder why 
it doesn't happen with core tests, though.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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Removed @krinkle from assignee, doesn't make sense to force assign someone 
without priori acknowledgement.

Seems to me the issue is in MediaWiki core job queue system so + 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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The mwext-Wikibase-qunit 
 job started 
failing between May 18th 12:39:11 UTC 
 and May 
18th 13:36:51 UTC 
.

Looking at the first failing build, there is an `mw-error.log` file attached to 
it which is `$wgDebugLogGroups['error']` with:

  2015-05-19 13:38:25 integration-slave-trusty-1014 jenkins_u1_mw: [a97629d3] 
[no req]   ErrorException from line 419 of includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php: 
PHP Notice: JobQueueGroup::__destruct: 1 buffered job(s) never inserted.
  #0 [internal function]: MWExceptionHandler::handleError(1024, 
'JobQueueGroup::...', '/mnt/jenkins-wo...', 419, Array)
  #1 includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php(419): 
trigger_error('JobQueueGroup::...')
  #2 [internal function]: JobQueueGroup->__destruct()
  #3 {main}
  2015-05-19 13:38:25 integration-slave-trusty-1014 jenkins_u1_mw: [30a22e70] 
[no req]   ErrorException from line 419 of includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php: 
PHP Notice: JobQueueGroup::__destruct: 1 buffered job(s) never inserted.
  #0 [internal function]: MWExceptionHandler::handleError(1024, 
'JobQueueGroup::...', '/mnt/jenkins-wo...', 419, Array)
  #1 includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php(419): 
trigger_error('JobQueueGroup::...')
  #2 [internal function]: JobQueueGroup->__destruct()
  #3 {main}
  2015-05-19 13:38:26 integration-slave-trusty-1014 jenkins_u1_mw: [2cd5481b] 
[no req]   ErrorException from line 419 of includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php: 
PHP Notice: JobQueueGroup::__destruct: 1 buffered job(s) never inserted.
  #0 [internal function]: MWExceptionHandler::handleError(1024, 
'JobQueueGroup::...', '/mnt/jenkins-wo...', 419, Array)
  #1 includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php(419): 
trigger_error('JobQueueGroup::...')
  #2 [internal function]: JobQueueGroup->__destruct()
  #3 {main}
  2015-05-19 13:38:28 integration-slave-trusty-1014 jenkins_u1_mw: [b61c63d2] 
[no req]   ErrorException from line 419 of includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php: 
PHP Notice: JobQueueGroup::__destruct: 1 buffered job(s) never inserted.
  #0 [internal function]: MWExceptionHandler::handleError(1024, 
'JobQueueGroup::...', '/mnt/jenkins-wo...', 419, Array)
  #1 includes/jobqueue/JobQueueGroup.php(419): 
trigger_error('JobQueueGroup::...')
  #2 [internal function]: JobQueueGroup->__destruct()
  #3 {main}

So it seems some HTTP queries fails, and the curl error would potentially be 
caused by it.

A few JobQueue related changes landed in MediaWiki core that day which might be 
related:

- https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211320/ //Added JobQueueGroup::lazyPush 
method// which also does clean ups
- https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211748/ //Use lazyPush() instead of push() 
in a few places for jobs//

The first actually adds the `__destruct` method to JobQueueGroup so that would 
explain it.

So it might just be a breaking change or a flaw in 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211320/ which we might well want to revert 
to unreal the Wikidata job.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93055: Implement tracking of label use per parser target language

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Change 209512 merged by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE):
Use usage modifiers when detecting affected pages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/209512


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T92660: Set proper decimal value precision in RDF exports

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98471: Selecting value with keyboard is making wrong edits again

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It is not so much about working fast. I defenitely selected Australia: 
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q19544678&diff=216964659&oldid=216964594


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T99774: Track usage in all namespaces, since arbitrary access allows data access from any page.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T99817: Training: Wikidata's SPARQL introduction for beginners

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99817: Training: Wikidata's SPARQL introduction for beginners

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See also: https://github.com/wikimedia/wikidata-query-rdf/tree/master/docs


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T99817: Training: Wikidata's SPARQL introduction for beginners

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T73813: Provide SPARQL endpoint for Wikidata data

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T92996: Figure out how to represent non-Gregorian dates in RDF export

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I think we are done with this and the decision is everything converted to 
xsd:dateTime, see also https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99795


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T92996: Figure out how to represent non-Gregorian dates in RDF export

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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I think this particular tickes is rather about how our Blazegraph instance 
understands xsd:datetime type. Right now it understands it strictly as XSD 1.0. 
We may want to have an option for it to also accept XSD 1.1. There are several 
aspect of this:

1. How the data is stored in wikidata
2. How the data look in RDF - e.g. does 2BCE look like 
`"-0001-01-01T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime` (XSD 1.1) or 
`"-0002-01-01T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime` (XSD 1.0)
3. How SPARQL engine understand the data - i.e., how many days are between 
`"0001-01-01T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime` and 
`"-0001-01-01T00:00:00"^^xsd:dateTime`.

These three are distinct questions. I think this ticket is about the third one 
- though of course the previous two are important too and need to be handled.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99796: site_identifiers tables are corrupt

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fixed in production.

still would like my script merged, in case we need it again.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Lowered Priority] T99796: site_identifiers tables are corrupt

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aude lowered the priority of this task from "Unbreak Now!" to "High".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T99820: Add reference to ontology.owl to the RDF output

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Right now, RDF output (both dumps and Special:EntityData) contains no 
reference to Wikibase ontology. This needs to be added somehow (`owl:imports` 
probably) to both, and docs/ontology.owl should have a working external URL 
under which it can be found.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T92270: Wikidata activities at the Wikimedia Hackathon 2015

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T99817: Wikidata's SPARQL introduction for beginners

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  I will do a workshop on SPARQL and turtle (RDF) for Wikidata to have an 
introduction about what SPARQL is and how it can be used to query Wikidata's 
data. Therefore I will give a short overview of our turtle ontology and 
examples of how to query the data. This may interest you if you have used 
http://wdq.wmflabs.org/ .
  
  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Declined] T92660: Set proper decimal value precision in RDF exports

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T50143: Implement complete RDF mapping for entities (tracking)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T74815: Add mw.wikibase.getEntityObject by site link (title) Lua function

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99796: site_identifiers tables are corrupt

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99796: site_identifiers tables are corrupt

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Change 212315 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aude):
Add script for rebuilding site_identifiers table

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212315


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T93055: Implement tracking of label use per parser target language

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Change 207426 merged by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE):
Add modifier field to EntityUsage

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207426


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

[zeljkofilipin]

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A tweak that did not help.

https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/mwext-Wikibase-qunit/jobConfigHistory/showDiffFiles?timestamp1=2015-05-11_20-56-08×tamp2=2015-05-20_17-17-24


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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It might or not be an issue with CI infra. @thcipriani @zeljkofilipin and I are 
taking this as an opportunity to do some knowledge transfer.   The curl error 
reported by Zeljko is definitely not obvious at all :-/


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99774: Track usage in all namespaces, since arbitrary access allows data access from any page.

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Change 212265 merged by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE):
Apply usage tracking in all namespaces.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212265


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T99774: Track usage in all namespaces, since arbitrary access allows data access from any page.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T96373: Usage tracking update / purging on edit and re-parse (tracking)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T99795: RdfBuilder should have an option to switch between XSD 1.1 and XSD 1.0 style dates in the output.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

[zeljkofilipin]

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This is strange:

  00:00:37.193 (23) Failed writing body


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99796: site_identifiers tables are corrupt

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i think this can be repaired without touching the sites table (which have stuff 
modified by hand -- bad!)


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T99796: site_identifiers tables are corrupt

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T99796: site_identifiers tables are corrupt

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T99795: RdfBuilder should have an option to switch between XSD 1.1 and XSD 1.0 style dates in the output.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99795: RdfBuilder should have an option to switch between XSD 1.1 and XSD 1.0 style dates in the output.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99674: Decide on internal representation of (Gregorian and Julian) dates with negative years

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99795: RdfBuilder should have an option to switch between XSD 1.1 and XSD 1.0 style dates in the output.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T88534: Implement EntitySearch service on top of Elastic

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98993: create instance for people to toy with the query endpoint

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\o/


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99775: Qunit test always fail in Wikidata Jenkins jobs.

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+@zeljkofilipin because he's the last jenkins expert that is still online.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99693: UsageTracking: create integration test for usage tracking updates

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Change 212293 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daniel Kinzler):
Integration test for usage tracking.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99693: UsageTracking: create integration test for usage tracking updates

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T98826: Enable arbitrary access on Wikiquote projects

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T49288: Track Wikidata entity usage on client pages

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T98247: Deploy usage tracking to Wikiquote projects

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T98247: Deploy usage tracking to Wikiquote projects

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98303: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to itwiki

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Change 212282 merged by jenkins-bot:
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https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212282


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98247: Deploy usage tracking to Wikiquote projects

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Change 212282 merged by jenkins-bot:
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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@Jc3s5h yes, exactly


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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Am I correct to think that this ticket is **only** about how to represent 1 BCE 
in RDF. Thus, the fact that RDF is strictly (possibly proleptic) Gregorian 
while Wikidata also supports Gregorian is outside the scope of this ticket, so 
conversion between Gregorian and Julian is a problem for a different ticket?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T98247: Deploy usage tracking to Wikiquote projects

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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> I don't know if we need to write carefully in this forum, but when the 
> results of the discussion are presented to the community, it will be 
> important (if we allow the output of Julian dates) to say that we produce an 
> output format inspired by XSD 1.x but extended to allow Julian dates.


That is incorrect for the RDF output. It would be correct for the JSON 
representation used for internal storage, the API, and JSON dumps.

But JSON not what this ticket is about. This ticket is about the representation 
in RDF, which explicitly uses the XSD:data type, which in turn is defined to be 
an ISO timestamp, and thus always Gregorian. The problem described in the 
ticket is that the RDF store we used, BlazeGraph, uses XSD 1.0 internally, 
while we (probably) want to use XSD 1.1. Or at least have an option to switch 
RDF output between 1.0 and 1.1.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99355: Security review of Wikibase-Quality-Constraints

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@csteipp Done. We don't have such a diagram so far, scheduling an hour to draw 
them would be nice :)


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98303: Deploy usage tracking and arbitrary access to itwiki

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Change 212282 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aude):
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

[Jc3s5h]

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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94539#1298906, @daniel wrote:

> @Jc3s5h XSD is always Gregorian, but the question is which year numbering 
> should be used in the output. This is regardless of whether the date is 
> Gregorian or Julian internally. It's purely a question of which version of 
> the XSD spec we want to follow in our output, and yes, the only difference is 
> a one year offset.


I don't know if we need to write carefully in this forum, but when the results 
of the discussion are presented to the community, it will be important (if we 
allow the output of Julian dates) to say that we produce an output format 
**inspired by ** XSD 1.x but **extended** to allow Julian dates.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T99355: Security review of Wikibase-Quality-Constraints

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T99352: Security review of Wikibase-Quality

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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@Jc3s5h XSD is always Gregorian, but the question is which year numbering 
should be used in the output. This is regardless of whether the date is 
Gregorian or Julian internally. It's purely a question of which version of the 
XSD spec we want to follow in our output, and yes, the only difference is a one 
year offset.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T94539: BlazeGraph uses old xsd:dateTime standard

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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94539#1298550, @daniel wrote:

> @Smalyshev is it correct to say that at the moment, Julian dates are 
> converted to XSD 1.1 dates, but Gregorian dates stay XSD 1.0 in our output? I 
> think we should have an option for switching the XSD version of the output, 
> defaulting to 1.1.


Obviously I'm not Smalyshev, but the only distinction discussed among these 
related Phabricator tasks is XSD 1.0 representing 1 BCE as -1000 while XSD 1.1 
represents it as . It would be helpful if someone would post links to the 
exact specifications for XSD 1.0 and 1.1 they are thinking of, but from what I 
found, XSD follows the Gregorian calendar because their notation is inspired by 
ISO 8601.

Leaving ISO 8601 and its spawn aside, I am not aware of any consistent 
notational differences between the (possibly proleptic) Julian calendar and 
Gregorian calendar, other than the leap days that only occur in the Julian. If 
a date stored in Wikidata and the calendarmodel field were set to Julian, I 
can't imagine any difference in output format one might want to make compared 
to the calendarmodel field being set to Gregorian.

An aside, just in case anyone decides to read a book I mentioned earlier, 
Dershowitz and Reingold's //Calendrical Calculations//. That book use the 
convention that Julian 1 BCE is -1 while Gregorian 1 BCE is 0. This is the only 
written work I have ever seen that follows this convention.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T99511: Introduce ParserCacheSave hook

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T99511: Introduce ParserCacheSave hook

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Change 212278 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daniel Kinzler):
Introduce ParserCacheSaveComplete hook.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212278


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T49930: Allow accessing data from a Wikidata item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T98471: Selecting value with keyboard is making wrong edits again

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This only seems to happen when people work fast.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T99511: Introduce ParserCacheSave hook

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T99777: Merge LinkInjectionHookHandlers with SidebarHookHandlers

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  LinkInjectionHookHandlers deals with injecting link info into the 
ParserOutput. SidebarHookHandlers deals with transferring links info from 
ParserOutput to OutputPage, and injecting hooks from the OutputPage into the 
skin output. These two tasks are closely related, and the knowledge about which 
info is encoded how in ParserOutput and OutputPage should be centralized in a 
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