Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question how the current jury was elected and by who, is that the Wikimania jury is not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or volunteer-centric. We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this question. It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied as referring to jury members as second class citizens. Nobody apart from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement. Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled for future Wikimania events. It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo. Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
I do agree that it should be great to have a transparent way to elect the jury, but people, let's at least take the word or the people who commented here. The ones who come here and said I do work for a wikimedia org, but I'm in the jury as a volunteer. Why do not believe in then? Most of then (the ones I know about) are long standing volunteers so it IS possible that was because of that they were chosen. If the criteria were open would be better and we wouldnt have that questions, yes. But let's try to keep civil with the people who DID volunteer to be members of the jury. _ *Béria L. de Rodríguez* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* 2014-10-10 7:48 GMT-03:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question how the current jury was elected and by who, is that the Wikimania jury is not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or volunteer-centric. We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this question. It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied as referring to jury members as second class citizens. Nobody apart from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement. Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled for future Wikimania events. It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo. Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
Based on a prompt from Itzik, I checked the archives of wikimania-l (which I was not subscribed to). There is a message from Stuart Prior there with a very brief summary of background of jury members which I was unaware of and it may have been intended as a response to my question. Refer to https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2014-October/006418.html. For those that do subscribe to wikimania-l, please keep in mind that most readers of wikimedia-l do not see your responses unless you post here, and that posts from non-subscribers to wikimania-l get bounced. Thanks, Fae On 10 October 2014 11:48, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question how the current jury was elected and by who, is that the Wikimania jury is not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or volunteer-centric. We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this question. It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied as referring to jury members as second class citizens. Nobody apart from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement. Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled for future Wikimania events. It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo. Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board of Trustee elections
Itzik - Wikimedia Israel, 07/10/2014 09:50: I hope next year election committee will take it in consideration. Why hope? Just create the rules page on Meta with the amended criteria which just found consensus. They can then be worked on from there. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
If you're interested in discussing the future of Wikimania, perhaps it makes sense to do that on the dedicated list? Just a wild thought. Best, Lodewijk 2014-10-10 13:25 GMT+02:00 Fæ fae...@gmail.com: Based on a prompt from Itzik, I checked the archives of wikimania-l (which I was not subscribed to). There is a message from Stuart Prior there with a very brief summary of background of jury members which I was unaware of and it may have been intended as a response to my question. Refer to https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2014-October/006418.html . For those that do subscribe to wikimania-l, please keep in mind that most readers of wikimedia-l do not see your responses unless you post here, and that posts from non-subscribers to wikimania-l get bounced. Thanks, Fae On 10 October 2014 11:48, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question how the current jury was elected and by who, is that the Wikimania jury is not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or volunteer-centric. We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this question. It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied as referring to jury members as second class citizens. Nobody apart from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement. Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled for future Wikimania events. It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo. Fae ___ Wikimania-l mailing list wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
On 10 October 2014 14:58, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: If you're interested in discussing the future of Wikimania, perhaps it makes sense to do that on the dedicated list? Just a wild thought. Thanks for the thought. Itzik's general question was posted to Wikimedia-l, so answering it here makes sense. No doubt most readers of wikimedia-l are like myself and do not normally follow wikimania-l. Governance and transparency issues for Wikimania are of more general interest than a readership of Wikimania attendees, presenters, and fans, particularly when as a community of volunteers we have chosen to let a WMF employee make community decisions for us (such as appointing the Jury that has our full authority for deciding where Wikimania will be held, along with the political and financial implications of support contracts and investing significant money in a chosen country). Wikimania has become a big business with significant press attention and associated significant risks. It benefits from having many volunteers in our movement asking questions and ensuring that the main body of unpaid volunteers are happy that it is directed by volunteers and focused on our community, rather than the interests of partners, other commerical rationales or indeed the interests of the WMF which is not exactly the same as the interests of the wider Wikimedia community/beneficiaries. As an unpaid volunteer at Wikimania in London, I was very interested in talking to other unpaid volunteers, some of whom were taking part because they wanted to gain experience in event management for their CVs but with no prior understanding of what Wikimania projects actually were. I think that's okay, we welcome this sort of support, but how these varied interests should be managed to meet our shared open knowledge ethics and values is something to continue to ponder as our movement continues to grow, particularly if measured by how many tens of millions of dollars are donated to us each year -- which seems to be the critical measure of success used by the WMF and the international press. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monument for Wikipedia in Poland
Impressive talent! Thank you for sharing this with us! Emily Blanchard Talent Acquisition Team Wikimedia Foundation eblanchard@wikimedia. eblanch...@gmail.comorg Follow us on Twitter @wikimediaatwork http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home Become a Contributor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse Join Us: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us Developers Join the Fun: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Communication *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share inthe sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!* On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarded on request: de: http://www.cp.edu.pl/de/public_relations/startsite_news/spalte_4_oben/wikipedia/pomnik-wikipedii/index.html pl: http://www.cp.edu.pl/pl/public_relations/startsite_news/spalte_4_oben/wikipedia/pomnik-wikipedii/index.html and: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Berlin#Mittwoch.2C_22._Oktober_2014:_Er.C3.B6ffnung_eines_Wikipedia-Denkmals_in_S.C5.82ubice 2014-10-09 20:49 GMT+02:00 Tar Lócesilion tar.locesil...@gmail.com: Yes, it will. 2014-10-09 20:31 GMT+02:00 Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com: Really amazing! So, the monument will have freedom of panorama? ;) 2014-10-09 13:29 GMT-05:00 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: ;-) Actually just one monument :-) By the way our woman wikipedians complan that only men are holding the globe in this statue :-) So, we have at least sent a woman - Magalia, to represent our community and fill a little bit gender gap :-) 2014-10-09 19:52 GMT+02:00 Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com : In Poland, Monument loves Wikipedia On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: I saw something appear in the media: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_26694189/poland-honor-wikipedia-monument Romaine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l , mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Atentamente:Iván MartínezPresidenteWikimedia México A.C.wikimedia.mx http://wikimedia.mxImagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso libre a la suma total del conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos haciendo http://es.wikipedia.org. * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Simo G. [[user:Tar Lócesilion]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's fix templates
I have a tool to migrate templates. If anyone has a particular wiki that needs templates migrating on an as needed basis, please let me know and I will be happy to help. On 10 October 2014 02:57, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: Lua makes editing templates for most users impossible. Perhaps the English community has enough users to handle all edit requests for Lua templates, most smaller wikis have too less users to do that. It is not just creating a Lua template, but also that the local communities on various wikis need to be able to maintain those templates when an update is needed or a changed is wished for. Depending on other projects is a bad scenario which is not an acceptable solution. I also do not see why it is considered easier... it is actually not easier. The general rule which is applied for the wikis I am active is that almost all templates should be editable by the majority of the community and we should not rely on a small number of users with programming skills. And learning an extra method for editing templates is the other way round, which absolutely does not make editing templates easier but creates an extra doorstep for users to do simple updates. Another general rule applied is KISS: if we can make it simple such is recommended over a complex template with little or no extra functionality. With a complex template, the first question to be asked is if a complex template is really needed. In most cases it is not. Problem solved. Romaine 2014-10-10 1:40 GMT+02:00 Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org: On 09/02/2014 03:27 PM, pi zero wrote: The templates are extremely complicated in implementation, which is irrelevant. If templates were rejected based on extremely complicated implementation, that would rule out essentially everything that uses Scribuntu under the hood. I don't agree with this. Scribunto is a new language to learn (Lua), but that language is far easier for complicated work than parser functions are for complicated work. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Landline (UK) 01780 757 250 Mobile (UK) 0798 1995 792 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
Hi Risker, You seem to have missed the point, this is not a question of bad faith in any person. Itzik's question exposed failure in making a key procedure in how our movement manages funding properly transparent. Please do not derail the issue into one of personalities. There is no doubt that all appointed members of the Jury are great people, this was never the question here. As for transparency, you are not in a strong position to lecture, considering that your behind-the-scenes actions got me banned from the English Wikipedia just a couple of days after Phillipe Beadette had a supposedly personal and private conversation with you and yet you have failed to ever explain your actions. Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
Fæ, 10/10/2014 16:44: [...] a WMF employee make community decisions for us (such as appointing the Jury [...] I've not inspected the facts in detail, but as far as I could understand this is NOT what happened, so it's a bit annoying to hear you repeat it continuously. I added a summary to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_jury some days ago and I encourage everyone to edit it (with references, where controversial). I'm sure it will be easier to discuss productively once we've agreed upon the essential facts. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monument for Wikipedia in Poland
yup, it is a bit unnerving that it is four male figures (even if telling some sort of truth about our movement). I will be delivering a talk at this event, if anyone else is coming, let me know :) best, dariusz pundit On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: I saw something appear in the media: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_26694189/poland-honor-wikipedia-monument Romaine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- __ prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego i centrum badawczego CROW Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
On 10.10.2014 18:56, Fæ wrote: As for transparency, you are not in a strong position to lecture, considering that your behind-the-scenes actions got me banned from the English Wikipedia just a couple of days after Phillipe Beadette had a supposedly personal and private conversation with you and yet you have failed to ever explain your actions. Thanks, Fae I do not think such gossip has a place on this list. Please consider apologizing to Risker and do not repeat it here again. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all! The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced this Friday, and in cooperation with Wikimedia Norge, the Nobel Peace Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Center has invited Wikipedians from the Norwegian Wikipedia community to an editathon to improve the article about the winner(s?) as soon as possible. We'll be sitting practically in the next room from where the announcement is made, updating relevant articles as fast as we can. For this to be a global event, I'd like to invite anyone who's interested to join us in the IRC channel #wikipedia-nobel irc://freenode/#wikipedia-nobel, where we'll be talking and coordinating. We'll also try to livetweet the event using the hashtag #wikinobel https://twitter.com/hashtag/wikinobel, probably mainly from the account @WikimediaNorge https://twitter.com/WikimediaNorge. The press conference will be start around 10:30 Norwegian time, which is *08:30 UTC*, like I said on *Friday, 10th of October*. Please join us, and help spread this invitation to your community. -- mvh Jon Harald Søby http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by ___ Hi Jon, thank you so much for your efforts in having Malala and Kailash Satyarthi's pages updated. I was over the moon to see the announcements this morning and really proud of the Norwegian Wikipedia community for updating the pages today! I for one would love to hear about everyone's experience being there. (I'd also love to hear anyone's experiences about edit conflicts while updating the pages). I'm not sure when you were notified of the invitation, but do know that the Foundation wants to find ways of supporting community activities like this, so if there are any ideas on how to do that please say so. Cheers, Rachel -- Rachel diCerbo Director of Community Engagement (Product) Wikimedia Foundation Rdicerb (WMF) https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Rdicerb_%28WMF%29 @a_rachel https://twitter.com/a_rachel ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
Hi Rachel, I'd like to suggest someone in change of WMF communication to write a blog post about this great initiative from Norwegian volunteers. Talk to those taking the lead. :) Such initiative should be highlighted very much, mainly after to see those great Nobel Prizes (different from some years ago). Hopefully I'll try to find some time next October 12, Children's Day in Brazil, to contribute with Malala's article in the Portuguese Wikipedia. I'm trying to spread the word among Open Knowledge Brasil community because we were thinking to do some thing for children and teachers aligned with our mission. Cheers, Tom 2014-10-10 14:46 GMT-03:00 Rachel diCerbo rdic...@wikimedia.org: Hi Jon, thank you so much for your efforts in having Malala and Kailash Satyarthi's pages updated. I was over the moon to see the announcements this morning and really proud of the Norwegian Wikipedia community for updating the pages today! I for one would love to hear about everyone's experience being there. (I'd also love to hear anyone's experiences about edit conflicts while updating the pages). I'm not sure when you were notified of the invitation, but do know that the Foundation wants to find ways of supporting community activities like this, so if there are any ideas on how to do that please say so. Cheers, Rachel ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
There is a short blog post about the event that went up yesterday, thanks to the speedy turnaround of Astrid and Jon! We reached out to them right after seeing this announcement, and they provided a quick background just a few hours later. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/09/wikinobel/ I agree that it would be wonderful to have another post with more details about how this all came to together, the event itself, and what the organizers felt were the best learning and outcomes of this new collaboration. On Oct 10, 2014 11:19 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga t...@okfn.org.br wrote: Hi Rachel, I'd like to suggest someone in change of WMF communication to write a blog post about this great initiative from Norwegian volunteers. Talk to those taking the lead. :) Such initiative should be highlighted very much, mainly after to see those great Nobel Prizes (different from some years ago). Hopefully I'll try to find some time next October 12, Children's Day in Brazil, to contribute with Malala's article in the Portuguese Wikipedia. I'm trying to spread the word among Open Knowledge Brasil community because we were thinking to do some thing for children and teachers aligned with our mission. Cheers, Tom 2014-10-10 14:46 GMT-03:00 Rachel diCerbo rdic...@wikimedia.org: Hi Jon, thank you so much for your efforts in having Malala and Kailash Satyarthi's pages updated. I was over the moon to see the announcements this morning and really proud of the Norwegian Wikipedia community for updating the pages today! I for one would love to hear about everyone's experience being there. (I'd also love to hear anyone's experiences about edit conflicts while updating the pages). I'm not sure when you were notified of the invitation, but do know that the Foundation wants to find ways of supporting community activities like this, so if there are any ideas on how to do that please say so. Cheers, Rachel ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monument for Wikipedia in Poland
This is very, very cool. :-) I don’t suppose the monument is freely licensed? Can Creative Commons licenses even be applied to monuments? Thanks, Mike On 9 Oct 2014, at 19:49, Tar Lócesilion tar.locesil...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it will. 2014-10-09 20:31 GMT+02:00 Ivan Martínez gala...@gmail.com: Really amazing! So, the monument will have freedom of panorama? ;) 2014-10-09 13:29 GMT-05:00 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: ;-) Actually just one monument :-) By the way our woman wikipedians complan that only men are holding the globe in this statue :-) So, we have at least sent a woman - Magalia, to represent our community and fill a little bit gender gap :-) 2014-10-09 19:52 GMT+02:00 Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com : In Poland, Monument loves Wikipedia On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine.w...@gmail.com wrote: I saw something appear in the media: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_26694189/poland-honor-wikipedia-monument Romaine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l , mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29title=tomasz-ganicz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Atentamente:Iván MartínezPresidenteWikimedia México A.C.wikimedia.mx http://wikimedia.mxImagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso libre a la suma total del conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos haciendo http://es.wikipedia.org. * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Simo G. [[user:Tar Lócesilion]] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
That seems rather unfair. Fæ is raising some valid points about how this process has taken place this year, which are worth addressing. Dismissing concerns unless there is a comprehensive proposal for reform seems like a reduction to bureaucracy… Thanks, Mike On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting with interest to see Fae's comprehensive proposal for reforming the process. Once that proposal has been offered, anyone interested can comment on whether it is an improvement to the current process. If the consensus is that it is, great! If not, then we can move on. If no proposal for change is offered, then there isn't much to discuss. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Nobel Peace Prize announcement and editathon
On 9 October 2014 09:05, Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com wrote: the award ceremony itself will be held on December 10 as usual. As much as I like the idea, I think that is probably the worst time to try to make something like that happen, seeing as we'd be competing with every major news agency in the world... You might be pleasantly surprised at the positive reaction you'd get; see: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/05/10/no-interviews-except-wikipedia-documenting-eurovision-song-contest-commons/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monument for Wikipedia in Poland
On 10.10.2014 20:33, Michael Peel wrote: This is very, very cool. :-) I don’t suppose the monument is freely licensed? Can Creative Commons licenses even be applied to monuments? Thanks, Mike First, yes it can. A sculptor can give a permission, which would mean that every photo of a monument can be licensed under CC-BY-SA if the photographer wishes. I am sure we had such examples on Commons (they are sent via OTRS). Second, as it was noticed already, Poland has freedom of panorama for monuments, and therefore a permission from the sculptor is not even needed. Cheers Yaroslav ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monument for Wikipedia in Poland
On 10 Oct 2014, at 19:54, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 10.10.2014 20:33, Michael Peel wrote: This is very, very cool. :-) I don’t suppose the monument is freely licensed? Can Creative Commons licenses even be applied to monuments? Thanks, Mike First, yes it can. A sculptor can give a permission, which would mean that every photo of a monument can be licensed under CC-BY-SA if the photographer wishes. I am sure we had such examples on Commons (they are sent via OTRS). Cool. :-) It would be great to hear about examples where monuments have been CC-licensed! Second, as it was noticed already, Poland has freedom of panorama for monuments, and therefore a permission from the sculptor is not even needed. That’s true, but it’s relying on a copyright exception for a specific country, rather than an internationally valid copyright license, which can be an important distinction e.g., when photographers cross borders between taking and uploading photos. The latter is much better than the former where possible. Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
He's already stated his concerns repeatedly. It would be a lot more constructive if he had any suggestions for improvement. As always, the issue with Fae's comments is that he buries a valid point in a mess of combative argumentation and borderline offensive aspersions. If he believes the process needs to be reformed, then even a single polite suggestion for an improvement would be welcome. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: That seems rather unfair. Fæ is raising some valid points about how this process has taken place this year, which are worth addressing. Dismissing concerns unless there is a comprehensive proposal for reform seems like a reduction to bureaucracy… Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal
Hi Kirill, my understanding is that Affcom functions under the Legal department, much like the Individual Engagement Grants Committee functions under the Grantmaking department. Is that so, and if not, which department is responsible for Affcom? Hi Stephen, in the specific case of Cascadia Wikimedians, it is difficult for me to understand what about our inquiry should take longer than 10 days, let alone 14 or 21. Speaking more generally, as I said, this is not the first occasion when I feel that simple questions have taken a remarkably long time to get responses from Legal. If there is a reason for an issue to take longer than 14 days for a comprehensive response, at the least Legal could provide a substantive explanation for the length of time involved. Let me provide a basis for comparison. In the Individual Engagement Grants Committee, I estimate that 95% of inquiries receive responses within 4 days, and nearly 100% receive responses within 7 days *including* matters that need to go through Anasuya. So, it is difficult for me to understand how in IEGCom we can get nearly 100% of inquiries resolved within 7 days, yet in Cascadia Wikimedians we can go for weeks without hearing anything from Affcom or Legal, much less receiving substantive responses. I still would like to see what the quarterly goals are for the Legal team. Thank you, Pine On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Stephen LaPorte slapo...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello Pine, I am happy to speak with you specifically about turn-around time, so that we get your question resolved quickly and find solutions that may improve the process for others. Overall, we try to be quite responsive. In cases that do take time, it is likely because there are unusual circumstances that require background work or internal and community coordination, and we may need to triage and prioritize appropriately given our resources and other factors. I am not sure that a 14-day turn around timeline makes sense for all cases. In legal, we handle a range of other portfolios with a high level of complexity, so this would result in some variance. Sometimes our responses may take longer than we like, but I think our turn around time is often much shorter than 14 days for most standard questions. Movement role questions often require time for coordination with various stakeholders internally and externally, and that may add to the response time as well. As I say, please feel free to email me, and we will try to expedite a response to your specific question. Best, Stephen On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Geoff, In light of the above discussion about quarterly reviews on Wikimedia-l, can we find a set of quarterly goals for Legal somewhere? In particular I personally feel that the following would be helpful as goals for Legal this quarter: * Establishing timeline commitments for Affcom to respond to requests for approvals or for Affcom to ask new questions about a requested approval. Having approval requests stay open for weeks with no communication from Affcom creates challenges for thematic orgs which are working on our own timelines that may have dependencies on Affcom action. I have experienced this myself and have heard about similar issues happening with other requests. I suggest that Affcom have a commitment that all inquiries will recieve substantive responses within 14 days of the date of the inquiry, or otherwise Legal will take over the handling of the inquiry so that progress of thorgs can continue in a timely manner. * Similarly, establishing timeline commitments for Legal to respond to community and thematic org inquiries. I have experiened lengthy delays on more than one occasion about what I feel are simple questions. I feel that a commitment that Legal will respond substantively to inquiries within 14 days would be helpful, and would appreciated by the community and thematic orgs. Thanks very much. Regards, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Stephen LaPorte Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation *NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal and ethical reasons, I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer.* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kirill, my understanding is that Affcom functions under the Legal department, much like the Individual Engagement Grants Committee functions under the Grantmaking department. Is that so, and if not, which department is responsible for Affcom. Those two committees are completely different. Affcom is a self operating committee created by the board and, as far as know, reports directly to the board while IEG is a committee created by staff (in this case the Grantmaking group) and they, understandably, run it (I have no knowledge of how much community members like yourself help do so of course and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if it is also partially or mostly self operating). James [While I work for LCA Affcom is in no way connected to my duties and I have no inside knowledge about whether this is somehow correct/incorrect just what I know from the years of watching] ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kirill, my understanding is that Affcom functions under the Legal department, much like the Individual Engagement Grants Committee functions under the Grantmaking department. Is that so, and if not, which department is responsible for Affcom? Hi Pine, That's not the case. AffCom reports directly to the Board of Trustees [1] rather than to any staff department. Kirill [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Affiliations_Committee_Charter ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [AffCom] Quarterly goals for WMF Legal
That's correct. And for completeness, I am the primary staff liaison to AffCom, with Stephen LaPorte providing support on legal matters. A. On Oct 10, 2014 3:40 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kirill, my understanding is that Affcom functions under the Legal department, much like the Individual Engagement Grants Committee functions under the Grantmaking department. Is that so, and if not, which department is responsible for Affcom? Hi Pine, That's not the case. AffCom reports directly to the Board of Trustees [1] rather than to any staff department. Kirill [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Affiliations_Committee_Charter ___ Affiliations Committee mailing list aff...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/affcom ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 39 -- 08 October 2014
In the media: Opposition research firm blocked; Australian brushfire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-10-08/In_the_media Featured content: From a wordless novel to a coat of arms via New York City http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-10-08/Featured_content Traffic report: Panic and denial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-10-08/Traffic_report Technology report: HHVM is the greatest thing since sliced bread http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-10-08/Technology_report Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-10-08 https://www.facebook.com/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Call for OTRS administrator applicants
The OTRS administrators are considering expanding the admin team. We invite all community members to review the call for volunteers on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Call_for_administrator. We would like to keep questions centralized, so please direct all discussion to the talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:OTRS/Call_for_administrator. On behalf of the OTRS administrators, Ryan (User:Rjd0060) ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
