Re: [WISPA] Radio Station
I guess I didn't state it well, but someone else somewhere stated it for me. I'd just provide the dumb pipe, but inform them of all the things they could do, other than perhaps the camera. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Scott Carullo" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:59 PM To: ; "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Station > > I don't think you want to become legally responsible for the tower lights > but these two things come to mind... > > Many station convert their T1 lines they feed the audio signal to the > transmitter to the equivalent of a voip like feed with specialized > equipment to do so readily available in the broadcast industry. If you > provided bandwidth you could allow them to save 300-400 per month by > getting rid of those lines. > > Next - the way things are these days with copper thieves and such - > providing IP cameras at the tower site to monitor assets and possibly > remote recording of video could also win you your bartered services. > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > Original Message >> From: "Brian Webster" >> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:35 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Station >> >> You might be able to give them a client radio that they can use to > connect >> to your sites and do live remote broadcasts by linking back via > Ethernet. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> Brian Webster >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:18 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Radio Station >> >> >> I'm talking to a company that has a few radio stations. >> >> I know AM towers can be a PITA, so I'd like to avoid those. >> >> What sort of services could I provide to the station? I think I've heard > on >> here a backup link between the studio and the tower. I've also heard of >> people monitoring tower lights over IP. Where do I look for products to > do >> this kind of stuff? >> >> I suppose for the lights I could just monitor the amp usage on the > circuit >> that powers the lights. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> > > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radio Station
Mike, We have a low power FM station on one of our towers and a high power FM on another. The low power station is no problem but we have constant problems on the tower with the high power station. We've lowered our antennas to about the bottom 40 feet of the antenna (Its on a hill). As for trade, they love to trade bandwidth for monitoring their system, TV stations trade advertising time for bandwidth to their tower cams. Security cameras are ok too. Forbes -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Radio Station I'm talking to a company that has a few radio stations. I know AM towers can be a PITA, so I'd like to avoid those. What sort of services could I provide to the station? I think I've heard on here a backup link between the studio and the tower. I've also heard of people monitoring tower lights over IP. Where do I look for products to do this kind of stuff? I suppose for the lights I could just monitor the amp usage on the circuit that powers the lights. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 06:40:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radio Station
I don't think you want to become legally responsible for the tower lights but these two things come to mind... Many station convert their T1 lines they feed the audio signal to the transmitter to the equivalent of a voip like feed with specialized equipment to do so readily available in the broadcast industry. If you provided bandwidth you could allow them to save 300-400 per month by getting rid of those lines. Next - the way things are these days with copper thieves and such - providing IP cameras at the tower site to monitor assets and possibly remote recording of video could also win you your bartered services. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Brian Webster" > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:35 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Station > > You might be able to give them a client radio that they can use to connect > to your sites and do live remote broadcasts by linking back via Ethernet. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:18 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Radio Station > > > I'm talking to a company that has a few radio stations. > > I know AM towers can be a PITA, so I'd like to avoid those. > > What sort of services could I provide to the station? I think I've heard on > here a backup link between the studio and the tower. I've also heard of > people monitoring tower lights over IP. Where do I look for products to do > this kind of stuff? > > I suppose for the lights I could just monitor the amp usage on the circuit > that powers the lights. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radio Station
You might be able to give them a client radio that they can use to connect to your sites and do live remote broadcasts by linking back via Ethernet. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Radio Station I'm talking to a company that has a few radio stations. I know AM towers can be a PITA, so I'd like to avoid those. What sort of services could I provide to the station? I think I've heard on here a backup link between the studio and the tower. I've also heard of people monitoring tower lights over IP. Where do I look for products to do this kind of stuff? I suppose for the lights I could just monitor the amp usage on the circuit that powers the lights. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Radio Station
I'm talking to a company that has a few radio stations. I know AM towers can be a PITA, so I'd like to avoid those. What sort of services could I provide to the station? I think I've heard on here a backup link between the studio and the tower. I've also heard of people monitoring tower lights over IP. Where do I look for products to do this kind of stuff? I suppose for the lights I could just monitor the amp usage on the circuit that powers the lights. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Radio station app
Peter, I've noticed that both NPR and PBS have pushed the limits substantially on what is said during a donation acknowledgement. On NPR, the announcer doing the current pieces tends to flow into the acknowledgement but it has more and more incorporated promotional content clearly authored by the sponsor even including product names and benefits. PBS is getting kissin' close to commercials since they can include video from the sponsor. However, I don't know what the exact protocol is for the new generation of non-profit stations. Local universities and community colleges have their stations, mostly alternative-experimental and classical music, but steer farther away than NPR does in acknowledgements of donations and don't associate programmatic material with donors. Large universities often had stations that were the leading venues for what became NPR in the '70s and so are somewhat like them. The religious stations tend to be a combination; donor/receiver/sponsor/programmer so it's hard to tell from that what a generalized non-profit station format would be like...I don't recall ever seeing one. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio station app Correct. You can say something like this show is sponsored by Joe's Car Lot. And that is about it. Mac Dearman wrote: >-Original Message- >Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe > > >**FYI - A reminder to people out there interested in starting a >noncommercial >radio station (for whatever reason), applications must be recieved between >Oct 12 and Oct 19, 2007, and the application itself costs nothing... > > >I have kicked around the idea of starting a radio station, but am unsure >what you meant by "non commercial" station. Does this mean you can't get >paid for advertising? > > >Thanks, >Mac > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radio station app
Correct. You can say something like this show is sponsored by Joe's Car Lot. And that is about it. Mac Dearman wrote: -Original Message- Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe **FYI - A reminder to people out there interested in starting a noncommercial radio station (for whatever reason), applications must be recieved between Oct 12 and Oct 19, 2007, and the application itself costs nothing... I have kicked around the idea of starting a radio station, but am unsure what you meant by "non commercial" station. Does this mean you can't get paid for advertising? Thanks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Radio station app
Mac, I was on the original board of our two NPR stations, one classical music 24 hours a day and the other NPR 24 hours a day. They were on adjacent FM frequencies. A non-commercial, low power church station (from somewhere in Kansas as I recall) got a frequency just between the two. It's only a couple miles from my house yes overpowers the others without careful tuning on an analog FM radio. This may be what you are referring to. They are non-profit yet spend a lot of time trying to get money which, apparently, more than pays for the station. I expect that the lobby to promote these things, which now liberally dot our spectrum, was from these sources. It's a nightmare for me since they are directly under the SAT glidepath and incoming large jets create temporary multipath and my AFC will jump to that "in-between" station when the multipath phase cancellation on one of the public radio stations hits. I'll just have to buy a digitally synthesized radio for the bedroom. I wrote the FCC on behalf of the stations but it didn't help. In the letter I predicted the consequences (before they were granted that frequency) and they have become realized. Sorry to rant...just had to unload. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:00 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Radio station app -Original Message- Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe **FYI - A reminder to people out there interested in starting a noncommercial radio station (for whatever reason), applications must be recieved between Oct 12 and Oct 19, 2007, and the application itself costs nothing... I have kicked around the idea of starting a radio station, but am unsure what you meant by "non commercial" station. Does this mean you can't get paid for advertising? Thanks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Radio station app
-Original Message- Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe **FYI - A reminder to people out there interested in starting a noncommercial radio station (for whatever reason), applications must be recieved between Oct 12 and Oct 19, 2007, and the application itself costs nothing... I have kicked around the idea of starting a radio station, but am unsure what you meant by "non commercial" station. Does this mean you can't get paid for advertising? Thanks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
