Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Kit Grose]

The issue is that selects themselves don't have values. You notice  
the value is on the option tag, not the select.


So you can't just get the .value of the element with ID  
'subcategory'; you need to get the value of the currently selected  
item OF that select box. That can be done as an inline declaration,  
but shouldn't be.


The best bet is to get both values within the showSubcategory2  
function. Remove both parameters to the showSubcategory2 function and  
calculate them in the function:


HTML:
onchange="showSubcategory2()">

JavaScript:
function showSubcategory2() {
var categorySelect = document.getElementById('category');
var subcategorySelect = document.getElementById('subcategory');

	var category = categorySelect.options 
[categorySelect.selectedIndex].value;	
	var subcategory = subcategorySelect.options 
[subcategorySelect.selectedIndex].value;


xmlHttp = GetXmlHttpObject();

if (xmlHttp == null) {
alert ("Browser does not support HTTP Request");
return;
}

var url = "getsubcategory2.php";
url = url + "?category2="+category;
url = url + "&subcategory2="+subcategory;
url = url + "&sid="+Math.random();
xmlHttp.onreadystatechange = stateChanged;
xmlHttp.open("GET", url, true);
xmlHttp.send(null);
}


...or better yet, remove the onchange attribute from your select tag  
completely and implement the onchange unobtrusively as I detailed  
last time.


Hope that helps,

Kit


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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Brian Cummiskey]

Michael Horowitz wrote:
onchange="showSubcategory2(document.getElementById('category').value,document.getElementById('subcategory').value)"> 





try this:





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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Casey Farrell]

It must not be finding the element... does the element you are looking 
for in the document have id="category"?


Michael Horowitz wrote:
I've tried single quotes and keep getting the error 
document.GetElementByID has no properties


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Casey Farrell wrote:

Try using single quotes, as in:

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)"> 
Michael Horowitz wrote:

Having trouble so I went to testing with one element like this

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById("category").value)">  
and firebug shows a syntax error.


I tried it again taking oub the ""

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById(category).value)">


and then received the error message this document has not properties.


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
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561-394-9079



Olly Hodgson wrote:

On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I have examples using one value

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">

from a form to a script.

What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
form and one from another element



onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"


  



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[WSG] Navigation - Pseudo Standards?

[Christie Mason]

We're having an internal discussion about the placement of site navigation
(Contact Us, etc) vs Product Navigation (Search, Category 1, Category 2,
etc) in a 3 column layout with

| Navigation |Content | Navigation |

Some feel the site navigation should be in the left column with products in
the right column, others feel the opposite.

Does anyone know of any studies or review of user preferences indicating
which is the majority preference for web users?

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Re: [WSG] Navigation - Pseudo Standards?

[Christian Snodgrass]

I think it really comes down to which you want to be more important, 
site navigation or the products. If you only have like 2 pages besides 
product navigation and your site is basically an online store, I would 
put the products on the left. If you are a site with content that just 
happens to sell something, I would put them on the left.


I think it's pretty well accepted that people look at the left side of 
the screen before the right (generally), so whichever you want them to 
see first is what should go on the left.


Christie Mason wrote:

We're having an internal discussion about the placement of site navigation
(Contact Us, etc) vs Product Navigation (Search, Category 1, Category 2,
etc) in a 3 column layout with

| Navigation |Content | Navigation |

Some feel the site navigation should be in the left column with products in
the right column, others feel the opposite.

Does anyone know of any studies or review of user preferences indicating
which is the majority preference for web users?

Christie Mason



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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

That solves problem number 1

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Casey Farrell wrote:
It must not be finding the element... does the element you are looking 
for in the document have id="category"?


Michael Horowitz wrote:
I've tried single quotes and keep getting the error 
document.GetElementByID has no properties


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
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Casey Farrell wrote:

Try using single quotes, as in:

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)"> 
Michael Horowitz wrote:

Having trouble so I went to testing with one element like this

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById("category").value)">  
and firebug shows a syntax error.


I tried it again taking oub the ""

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById(category).value)">


and then received the error message this document has not properties.


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



Olly Hodgson wrote:

On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I have examples using one value

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">

from a form to a script.

What if I need to send two values one from the current element in 
the

form and one from another element



onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"


  



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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

I think I understand it no need for more explanation.  It's too late at 
night and I am working with twins in the room and a wife at the airport


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Kit Grose wrote:

On 15/11/2007, at 3:34 PM, Casey Farrell wrote:


Try using single quotes, as in:

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)">

Michael Horowitz wrote:


Even better would be to modify the function itself to get the second 
value:




Then in the JS:

function showSubcategory(value1) {
// Get value 2 either with
var value2 = document.getElementById('secondelement').value; // 
For input boxes

// or
var secondSelect = document.getElementById('secondelement');
var value2 = secondSelect.items[secondSelect.selectedIndex].value; 
// For select menus


...do something
}

window.onload = function() {
document.getElementById('categoryselect').onchange = showSubcategory;
}



Where 'secondelement' is the ID of your second element.


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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

I think you may have something with this secondSelect.items as I am 
using a select menu.   Can you explain where I would put my variable 
names in here please.


Thanks

Michael Horowitz
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Kit Grose wrote:

On 15/11/2007, at 3:34 PM, Casey Farrell wrote:


Try using single quotes, as in:

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)">

Michael Horowitz wrote:


Even better would be to modify the function itself to get the second 
value:




Then in the JS:

function showSubcategory(value1) {
// Get value 2 either with
var value2 = document.getElementById('secondelement').value; // 
For input boxes

// or
var secondSelect = document.getElementById('secondelement');
var value2 = secondSelect.items[secondSelect.selectedIndex].value; 
// For select menus


...do something
}

window.onload = function() {
document.getElementById('categoryselect').onchange = showSubcategory;
}



Where 'secondelement' is the ID of your second element.


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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

I've tried single quotes and keep getting the error 
document.GetElementByID has no properties


Michael Horowitz
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Casey Farrell wrote:

Try using single quotes, as in:

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)"> 
Michael Horowitz wrote:

Having trouble so I went to testing with one element like this

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById("category").value)">  
and firebug shows a syntax error.


I tried it again taking oub the ""

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById(category).value)">


and then received the error message this document has not properties.


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



Olly Hodgson wrote:

On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I have examples using one value

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">

from a form to a script.

What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
form and one from another element



onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"


  



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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Kit Grose]

On 15/11/2007, at 3:34 PM, Casey Farrell wrote:


Try using single quotes, as in:



Michael Horowitz wrote:


Even better would be to modify the function itself to get the second  
value:




Then in the JS:

function showSubcategory(value1) {
// Get value 2 either with
	var value2 = document.getElementById('secondelement').value; // For  
input boxes

// or
var secondSelect = document.getElementById('secondelement');
	var value2 = secondSelect.items 
[secondSelect.selectedIndex].value; // For select menus


...do something
}

window.onload = function() {
document.getElementById('categoryselect').onchange = showSubcategory;
}



Where 'secondelement' is the ID of your second element.


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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Casey Farrell]

Try using single quotes, as in:

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById('category').value)">  


Michael Horowitz wrote:

Having trouble so I went to testing with one element like this

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById("category").value)">  
and firebug shows a syntax error.


I tried it again taking oub the ""

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById(category).value)">


and then received the error message this document has not properties.


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



Olly Hodgson wrote:

On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

I have examples using one value

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">

from a form to a script.

What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
form and one from another element



onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"


  



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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

Having trouble so I went to testing with one element like this

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById("category").value)">   


and firebug shows a syntax error.

I tried it again taking oub the ""

onchange="showSubcategory(document.getElementById(category).value)">


and then received the error message this document has not properties.


Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079



Olly Hodgson wrote:

On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I have examples using one value

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">

from a form to a script.

What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
form and one from another element



onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"


  



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RE: [WSG] Web Form Best Practices

[Frank Palinkas]

Hi Howard,

If I may add to the excellent advice already offered, and which caters to
another aspect of an accessible web form? Please take a look at my Fast Track
tutorial "Calling Accessible Context-Sensitive Help with Unobtrusive
DOM/JavaScript" at my web page: http://frank.helpware.net.

This concentrates on two accessible methods of adding c-s help to a web form,
and also demonstrates form markup structure without depending on table,
paragraph, or definition list elements. The majority of the unobtrusive
DOM/JavaScript was built with the help and guidance of Gez Lemon of The
Paciello Group (TGP), while other js elements are based on designs by Simon
Willison and Jeremy Keith. You can view it on line and also download the
complete zipped project package containing all external script, css, images
and web pages if it suits.

Hope this may add a bit more to your info.

Kind regards,

Frank M. Palinkas
Microsoft M.V.P. - Windows Help
W3C HTML Working Group (H.T.M.L.W.G.) - Invited Expert
M.C.P., M.C.T., M.C.S.E., M.C.D.B.A., A+   
Senior Technical Communicator 
Web Standards & Accessibility Designer 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Howard Kim
Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2007 0:56 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Web Form Best Practices

I hope this question is appropriate for this list.  I'm doing some research
on 
best practices for creating web forms with the following in mind:

* Accessibility
* Semantic Markup with CSS
* Form Layout & Design

I would like to come up with some "form templates" for my organization based
on 
best practices and web standards.  I was wondering if anyone knew of any 
resources related to this topic.  I've done a Google search for "web form
best 
practices" which came back with a huge number of responses.  Any help
focusing 
my search?

Many thanks.

~Howard


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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

I just ordered the book. 


Thanks for the help I test out the solutions given.

Michael Horowitz
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Olly Hodgson wrote:

On Nov 14, 2007 11:11 PM, Olly Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"



While I'm here, two points:

Doing anything major using the onchange event isn't a great idea. The
reason being it can scupper keyboard users -- some browsers will fire
the event when the user's moving through items in the  using
the cursor keys.

Secondly, using inline event handlers is right up there with inline
styling. Ideally, you should be keeping everything in a separate
script file, in the same way you'd keep your CSS out of the HTML.

http://www.onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/

Cheers,


  



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Re: [WSG] Web Form Best Practices

[Mike at Green-Beast.com]

Hello Howard,

> some "form templates"
> Any help focusing my search?

I can offer a demo form [1] and a post about some (hopefully) best practices 
[2]. There is also an accessible form builder [3] at Accessify.com. No 
templates per se, but maybe these will be helpful.

[1] http://green-beast.com/gbcf/
[2] http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=206
[3] 
http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/accessibility-tools/form-builder/

Hope this helps.

Cheers.
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Re: [WSG] Web Form Best Practices

[Steve Baty]

Howard,

I highly recommend Luke Wroblewski's work on form layout & design best
practice. You can find Luke's discussion article here:
http://www.lukew.com/resources/articles/web_forms.html and here:
http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?144

Luke is also working on a book on the subject:
http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/webforms/

Further discussions on label placement here:
http://www.uxmatters.com/MT/archives/000107.php
Also an article about contextual help approaches for Web applications:
http://www.uxmatters.com/MT/archives/000170.php

Lastly: Jennifer Tidwell's book "Designing Interfaces" - which is full of
design patterns for standard interface elements/mechanisms. There's an
accompanying site: http://www.designinginterfaces.com/

Hope that helps
Steve

On 15/11/2007, Howard Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hope this question is appropriate for this list.  I'm doing some
> research on
> best practices for creating web forms with the following in mind:
>
> * Accessibility
> * Semantic Markup with CSS
> * Form Layout & Design
>
> I would like to come up with some "form templates" for my organization
> based on
> best practices and web standards.  I was wondering if anyone knew of any
> resources related to this topic.  I've done a Google search for "web form
> best
> practices" which came back with a huge number of responses.  Any help
> focusing
> my search?
>
> Many thanks.
>
> ~Howard
>


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Re: [WSG] Web Form Best Practices

[Howard Kim]

Thanks John.  In my own searching I also found - 
http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?545 - which I thought might be useful to others.


~Howard

John Faulds wrote:
Here's a recent one that might prove useful: 
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/redesigning_ebay_registration/


On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:55:46 +1000, Howard Kim 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I hope this question is appropriate for this list.  I'm doing some 
research on best practices for creating web forms with the following 
in mind:


* Accessibility
* Semantic Markup with CSS
* Form Layout & Design

I would like to come up with some "form templates" for my organization 
based on best practices and web standards.  I was wondering if anyone 
knew of any resources related to this topic.  I've done a Google 
search for "web form best practices" which came back with a huge 
number of responses.  Any help focusing my search?


Many thanks.

~Howard


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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Olly Hodgson]

On Nov 14, 2007 11:11 PM, Olly Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
> document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"

While I'm here, two points:

Doing anything major using the onchange event isn't a great idea. The
reason being it can scupper keyboard users -- some browsers will fire
the event when the user's moving through items in the  using
the cursor keys.

Secondly, using inline event handlers is right up there with inline
styling. Ideally, you should be keeping everything in a separate
script file, in the same way you'd keep your CSS out of the HTML.

http://www.onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/

Cheers,


-- 
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http://thinkdrastic.net/


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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Olly Hodgson]

On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have examples using one value
>
> onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">
>
> from a form to a script.
>
> What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
> form and one from another element

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value,
document.getElementById("anotherElement").value);"


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Re: [WSG] Web Form Best Practices

[John Faulds]

Here's a recent one that might prove useful:  
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/redesigning_ebay_registration/


On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:55:46 +1000, Howard Kim  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I hope this question is appropriate for this list.  I'm doing some  
research on best practices for creating web forms with the following in  
mind:


* Accessibility
* Semantic Markup with CSS
* Form Layout & Design

I would like to come up with some "form templates" for my organization  
based on best practices and web standards.  I was wondering if anyone  
knew of any resources related to this topic.  I've done a Google search  
for "web form best practices" which came back with a huge number of  
responses.  Any help focusing my search?


Many thanks.

~Howard


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[WSG] Web Form Best Practices

[Howard Kim]

I hope this question is appropriate for this list.  I'm doing some research on 
best practices for creating web forms with the following in mind:


* Accessibility
* Semantic Markup with CSS
* Form Layout & Design

I would like to come up with some "form templates" for my organization based on 
best practices and web standards.  I was wondering if anyone knew of any 
resources related to this topic.  I've done a Google search for "web form best 
practices" which came back with a huge number of responses.  Any help focusing 
my search?


Many thanks.

~Howard


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Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

[Lars Michael Sørensen]

I recommend http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/ - they have a lot of
other tutorials as well. Very easy to follow, all the way through.

/lmss

2007/11/14, Olly Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Nov 14, 2007 9:44 PM, Chris Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rob Mason wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript.
> >
> > I highly rate this book - easy to read and understand:
> > http://www.quirksmode.org/book/
>
> http://domscripting.com/book/ is very good too.
>
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Re: [WSG] form destiantion

[Michael Horowitz]

Didn't see a form when I went there but was wondering what problem you 
were having. What language are you using to process the form.


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Marvin Domalaon wrote:

Good day to everyone,
 
I have sample site http://medex-sa.com/index_1.html in the contact 
us, I'm having a problem of submitting the data of the user who fill 
up the form. I want the data of the user when clicking the submit 
button direct to the outlook of our company. Could anyone knows the 
code please help me to overcome this problem.
 
Thanks!
 
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Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Benedict Wyss]

I believe it is as follows;

onchange="showSubcategory(name, email, message)" --- if they are the
name=name and name=email, etc.

or, if you want to parse text, then

onchange="showSubcategory("banana", "orange", "apple")"  --

So when it arrives at the script it becomes an array starting at [0]
to be used how you want.

Cheers,

Ben

On Nov 15, 2007 9:37 AM, Michael Horowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have examples using one value
>
> onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">
>
> from a form to a script.
>
> What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the
> form and one from another element
>
> Thanks
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Re: [WSG] Help (another topic)

[Michael Horowitz]

PHP allows you to do this

Display The IP Address
So, if you want to display the IP Address to the user then the following 
page will suffice:






http://whn.vdhri.net/2005/11/find_a_visitors_ip_address_with_php.html

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Bob Schwartz wrote:

I have a client who wants a page personalized for him similar to this:

 http://www.vermiip.es/il-mio-ip/

so people can discover their IP.

I have Googled about trying to find code that does it, but all I find 
are site that do it.


Does anyone know (have) the code?

Bob Schwartz



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[WSG] How to send two values to javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

I have examples using one value

onchange="showSubcategory(this.value)">

from a form to a script.

What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the 
form and one from another element


Thanks

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[WSG] Javascript

[Michael Horowitz]

I have a form that starts with choosing a category and a subcategory.  
The categories and subcategories are read from a mysql database using a 
PHP script. 
When New is chosen from Category I want the Category chose to change 
from a select to a text input box for both the Category and Subcategory 
fields.
When new is chosen in subcategory and want the form field for 
subcategory alone to change to a text input box.


I can get the subcategory boxed changed.  I can't get the javascript to 
have the PHP change both the category and subcategory at the same time.  
It appears to only allow me to change the contents of one  area on 
the form not two.  (Yes I know we shouldn't be using td for this but it 
is a legacy FP site I just took over. Just figuring out how to use PHP 
with FP was fun) 


Essentially the relevent html code is this

form action="process.php" method="post">
  
  "There are errors on the page.All errors marked in 
red.";?>
  Required fields 
marked with *   
  

  Category*:
  id="cat">   
  "selected"> SELECT
  value="NEW">NEW
  mysql_fetch_array($result);
echo "". 
$myrow['category']. "";
if ($myrow = 
mysql_fetch_array($result)) {

// display list
do {
   echo "value=" .$myrow['category']. ">". $myrow['category']. "";
} while ($myrow = 
mysql_fetch_array($result));

   } else {
   // no records to display
  echo "Sorry, no 
records were found!";   
  } 
  ?>
   
  
 
  

  Subcategory*:
  
  name='subcategory' onchange="showSubcategory2(this.value)">
  "selected"> SELECT
  VALUE="NEW">NEW

 
 
  


The java script is here




var xmlHttp

function showSubcategory(str)
{
xmlHttp=GetXmlHttpObject()
if (xmlHttp==null)
{
alert ("Browser does not support HTTP Request")
return
}
var url="getsubcategory.php"
url=url+"?q="+str
url=url+"&sid="+Math.random()
xmlHttp.onreadystatechange=stateChanged
xmlHttp.open("GET",url,true)
xmlHttp.send(null)
}

function stateChanged()
{
if (xmlHttp.readyState==4 || xmlHttp.readyState=="complete")
{
document.getElementById("txtHint").innerHTML=xmlHttp.responseText
}
}

function GetXmlHttpObject()
{
var xmlHttp=null;
try
{
// Firefox, Opera 8.0+, Safari
xmlHttp=new XMLHttpRequest();
}
catch (e)
{
//Internet Explorer
try
 {
 xmlHttp=new ActiveXObject("Msxml2.XMLHTTP");
 }
catch (e)
 {
 xmlHttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
 }
}
return xmlHttp;
}

I'm sure this is real easy but javascript is my new toy. I promise to 
try and be helpful to people on PHP problems.


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Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

[Olly Hodgson]

On Nov 14, 2007 9:44 PM, Chris Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob Mason wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript.
>
> I highly rate this book - easy to read and understand:
> http://www.quirksmode.org/book/

http://domscripting.com/book/ is very good too.


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Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

[Chris Knowles]

Rob Mason wrote:

> I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. 

I highly rate this book - easy to read and understand:
http://www.quirksmode.org/book/


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Re: [WSG] i want to know the basic of aspx or javascript for web

[Michael Horowitz]

The question you need to first ask is what do they want the site to do, 
then you can decide on the language.


I notice your title is including aspx which is asp.net which only runs 
on a Windows server. 

PHP runs on both Unix and Windows but typically is used on Unix  The 
best basic tutorial is at http://us3.php.net/tut.php.  Its an excellent 
server side language. 


I'm looking for help learning javascript myself so I'll be quiet on that.

Michael Horowitz
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Marvin Domalaon wrote:
 
Dear all,
 
i've studying html for a year, i build a lot of sample but it's 
not yet uploaded. My job is cashier but i have a lot of experience in 
programming language like pascal & C++.Now i am apply  for a asst. web 
designer in my company because i saw our site that having improper 
procedure of web design. The manager ask me to build a site as a trade 
test but using javascript or php. I don't have any idea about it. 
Please somebody help me to learn this language co'z i really want to 
be a web designer soon.
 
   It is a big opportunity for if i passed this test.
 
Your favorable response is high appreciated guys! Thank you and God 
bless all!
 
 
Marvin Domalaon

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RE: [WSG] How to better center the YUI overlay

[Cynthia Mack]

Thanks

Cynthia Mack
Omnipath
custom learning solutions
6135 Memorial Drive, Suite 103
Dublin, OH 43017
614-389-0743
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The doors of Opportunity are marked "Push" and "Pull." 
- Ethel Watts Mumford
 
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Subject: RE: [WSG] How to better center the YUI overlay

Hi Cynthia,

Are you talking accessibility guidelines for colour?

If so, this handy website will help you out.
http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=628

Regards,

Jay Boston
Intense Design

Phone: 03 9813 8229
Fax: 03 9813 8229
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New question,

Where can we find web standard concerning the colors used for web pages


Cynthia Mack
Omnipath
custom learning solutions
6135 Memorial Drive, Suite 103
Dublin, OH 43017
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Subject: [WSG] How to better center the YUI overlay

For those using YUI:

Article:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/hacking_the_YUI_container_script.asp

Frameset to help you compare both solutions:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/YUI_overlay/comparison.html


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Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

[James Jeffery]

Hi Rob.

I 'was' in the same shoes as you. I have previous experience
developing with PHP and
using Objects and Classes so i had a head start but i still found it
tough. Here is what i
did and what i am still doing.

I started by watching the Videos on yahoo, Crockford has some great ones!

I then went and got the up to date version of Orielly's book
'Javascript - The definitive
guide', Crockford also recommended this book and its ace!

To make the learning process quicker, i got myself Orielly's pocket
reference and read that
whenever i had a free moment (on the bus, break times at college, bed
times, whilst eating)

Im not at the stage where i can confidently put together complex
applications with JS
but i know how to use all the datatypes and the advanced OO topics.

Just today actually i went and got the 'Dom Scripting' book published
by friendsoft.

You just need to learn, practice, learn, practice and learn more, non
stop. I had the same
problem with CSS and HTML, once i started using it on a daily basis
and practicing and
running various trial and errors i became almost fluent.

Go for it! And don't be afraid to ask questions.

James

Ps. Get David Flannigans book, JSTDG.



On Nov 13, 2007 7:18 PM, Rob Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Am comfortable with HTML/CSS and accessibility in general, but struggle with
> JavaScript. I'm not a developer by trade, am a business type (sales and
> marketing) so most oft he stuff is well over my head. I am looking for a
> really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. Either on or offline will
> do.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [WSG] IE layout glitch on Blog

[Dave Woods]

Looks like it's more likely to do with your use of the  tag.

Firefox is allowing the content to overflow into the other container whilst
IE6 won't.

The easiest fix would probably be to use some kind of overflow: auto; in
that section of the page along with a width to force a scrollbar on any
content that is wider than the left column.

Hope that helps.

Dave
- - - - - - - - - -
http://www.dave-woods.co.uk


On 14/11/2007, Simon Cockayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am not the owner of  http://www.shield.on.ca/Blog/index.php ...
>
> But...I am puzzled as to why the navigation sidebar drops down below the
> blog content in IE 6...but appears fine and dandy (top right immediately
> below the header) in Firefox 2.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> I am thinking it is an IE "double padding/margin" type
> error...yes...no...yes??
>
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[WSG] IE layout glitch on Blog

[Simon Cockayne]

Hi,

I am not the owner of  http://www.shield.on.ca/Blog/index.php ...

But...I am puzzled as to why the navigation sidebar drops down below the
blog content in IE 6...but appears fine and dandy (top right immediately
below the header) in Firefox 2.

Any ideas?

I am thinking it is an IE "double padding/margin" type
error...yes...no...yes??

Simon


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Re: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

[Mike at Green-Beast.com]

Hello Simon,

> How should I code less than "<" and greater than ">" 
> signs in UTF-8 encoded HTML?
> The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he wrote "3 < 4".

The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he wrote "3 < 4".

Greater than, >, is written as >

Cheers.
Mike Cherim
http://green-beast.com




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RE: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

[Mohamed Jama]

http://www.webstandards.org/learn/reference/charts/entities/

 

Always found it to be very useful 

 

  _  

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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

 

How should I code less than "<" and greater than ">" signs in UTF-8
encoded HTML? 

  

 

less than = <

greater than = >

 

You might find this useful:

http://leftlogic.com/lounge/articles/entity-lookup/

 

James


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RE: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

[James Leslie]

How should I code less than "<" and greater than ">" signs in UTF-8
encoded HTML? 

  
 
less than = <
greater than = >
 
You might find this useful:
http://leftlogic.com/lounge/articles/entity-lookup/
 
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Re: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

[Tom Roper]

Simon,

Less than is <  and more than is &qt;

So it would be "The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he  
wrote "3 < 4".


best

Tom




On 14 Nov 2007, at 14:42, Simon Cockayne wrote:


Hi,

How should I code less than "<" and greater than ">" signs in UTF-8  
encoded HTML?


I.e. I want them to appear on the web page as follows:

...

The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he wrote "3 < 4".

...

Cheers,

Simon



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Re: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

[Sébastien Sauvé]

Hi Simon,

You should use HTML entities to encode those characters.

You can view a list of those entities here :
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/entities.html

But to answer your question quickly, ">" should be written as ">", and
"<" as "<".

Cheers,

Sebastien

On Nov 14, 2007 9:42 AM, Simon Cockayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How should I code less than "<" and greater than ">" signs in UTF-8
> encoded HTML?
>
> I.e. I want them to appear on the web page as follows:
>
> ...
>
> The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he wrote "3 < 4".
>
> ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Simon
>



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[WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

[Simon Cockayne]

Hi,

How should I code less than "<" and greater than ">" signs in UTF-8 encoded
HTML?

I.e. I want them to appear on the web page as follows:

...

The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he wrote "3 < 4".

...


Cheers,

Simon


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RE: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

[James Leslie]

Hi guys,

Am comfortable with HTML/CSS and accessibility in general, but struggle
with JavaScript. I'm not a developer by trade, am a business type (sales
and marketing) so most oft he stuff is well over my head. I am looking
for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. Either on or
offline will do. 

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance

Rob
 ---
 
Hi Rob,
 
I'm just starting to get into JavaScript having spent the last couple of
years also working primarily with HTML/CSS and accessibility. I'm
finding Jeremy Keith's DOM Scripting very easy to read and understand,
so would recommend it.
 
James 


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