Re: Difference between OB Copy and :=

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 3:26 AM, johnbdhPop via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Thanks Cannon, > > So maybe I want to use OB Copy when I load the record in an input > form. That way I can make changes to the object without changing the object > in the field. That way if the user c

Re: Delay process bug

Cannon Smith: > We just released a new version of our software a week and a half ago. In this > version I added a palette window on the server which runs On Timer. I also > added code to most every background process which updates some information > every time it wakes up from a Delay Process c

Re: Difference between OB Copy and :=

There is a good article in knowledgebase that describes this: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=78011 - Hilsen -- Helge Antonsen www.4dialog.no -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html

RE: Write Pro: programmatically manipulate text expertise needed

Hi Pat, Your tips seem to work, but I am hoping you also know the answer to the next problem. See example 1 : After replacing the text with ST SET TEXT($wp_obj;$text;$start_pos;$end_pos) the cursor must be set after the last inserted character. This replacing is done in the On After Keystroke e

RE: Write Pro: programmatically manipulate text expertise needed

Hi Pat, Thanks for your answer. Sometimes the solution is quite obvious but you just don't see it😊 Gr, Piotr > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Pat Bensky > Verzonden: dinsdag 12 juni 2018 13:40 > Aan: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > Onderwerp: Re: Write Pro: programmaticall

Re: Difference between OB Copy and :=

The neat thing about objects, in my opinion, is that they are reference based. I would try to stay away from using OB Copy unless it is warranted. For example, in your example you could just use the field directly or a reference to the field. Unless you save the record, changes won’t be put back

Re: Difference between OB Copy and :=

Thanks Cannon, So maybe I want to use OB Copy when I load the record in an input form. That way I can make changes to the object without changing the object in the field. That way if the user cancels I don’t have to worry about the field. When the user saves the record, should I

Re: Difference between OB Copy and :=

> [Letter Templates]WP_SeriesPictures:=oPictures Both [Letter Templates]WP_SeriesPictures and oPictures point to the same C_Object instance in memory. If you change either one, they are “both” changed. > [Letter Templates]WP_SeriesPictures:=OB Copy(oPictures) [Letter Templates]WP_SeriesPict

Difference between OB Copy and :=

  What is the difference between the following... [Letter Templates]WP_SeriesPictures:=oPictures [Letter Templates]WP_SeriesPictures:=OB Copy(oPictures) Both work. The LRM for OB Copy speaks to “a complete (deep) copy of the properties”. What does “deep” mean. Thanks, John ***

RE: Moving Methods/Forms between structures seems disabled - SOLVED!!!

Makes perfect senseThanks Randy Engle, Director XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE! for the record, it is not a 4D thing, any applications running as administrator (console, for example) will not accept drop from an app running on a lesser entitlement. 2018/06/13 7:58、Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_

Re: Moving Methods/Forms between structures seems disabled - SOLVED!!!

for the record, it is not a 4D thing, any applications running as administrator (console, for example) will not accept drop from an app running on a lesser entitlement. 2018/06/13 7:58、Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール： If you have one of your 4D ex

RE: Moving Methods/Forms between structures seems disabled - SOLVED!!!

After much writhing and gnashing of teeth... If you have one of your 4D executables set to "Run as Administrator", you won't be able to "move" objects into it. Hope this saves somebody tome time! 😉 Randy Engle, Director XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE! Let me ask this another way hopefully

Re: Scroll position of display-type subform

Thanks, Miyako, that works! > From: Keisuke Miyako > To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > Subject: Re: Scroll position of display-type subform > Message-ID: <30f1fc18-68d9-4b1b-9413-aba4d7db5...@4d.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > haven't tried, > but I wonder if C

Re: 4D Write to 4D Write Pro, Moving and using templates (Was: WR Count equivalent in 4D Write Pro)

Step 1 should have read "Using WR Count and WR GET PICTURE IN PAGE INFO" > On Jun 12, 2018, at 11:41 AM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > > 1. In 4D Write store the position and dimensions of each anchored picture > place holder into a c_object. > Using WR Count and WR SELECT PICTURE IN PA

Re: Delay process bug

I’ve seen it happen in as little as a few hours of a machine restart or after it had been running for a >2 months. Same with when 4D Server itself was launched. -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 > On Jun 12, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Jim Crate via 4D_Tec

4D Write to 4D Write Pro, Moving and using templates (Was: WR Count equivalent in 4D Write Pro)

If anyone was following the original thread, the underlying problem was how to address Anchored Picture place holders when converting a 4D Write template to 4D Write Pro. Beyond that, how to populate the place holder pictures when the 4D Write Pro template is used. My last post left this proble

RE: Delay process bug

I also did some digging our servers are patched on a monthly bases and restarted. So usually restart is few days over the 24.74 days. We have only had one instance of the delay process bug. So most of the time, even if it is a 32 bit signed integer problem, we don't have an issue with the delay

Re: v13 - Windows, DOS, LEP, Virtual environments, attrib command

I found a actual PC, and moved everything over there to try. the answer is : YES the virtual environment was causing the hide/show attributes of the files to be wonky, and folders not to work at all. On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 20:19:11 +, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech wrote: > to rule out virtual env

Re: Delay process bug

I doublechecked the time the server was started until the last time the processes were delayed and it was actually 24.74 (2137700 seconds). The processes were delayed for 5 minutes. However, that time period + the delay is still 9,483,647 ms, or 2.63 hours, short of the 2147483647 max signed 32-

RE: Delay process bug

> 32-bit long integer flips to negative, after 24 days. You might be on to something 😊 Could pass this on to the 4D tech guys... there are several bugs already reported for this. Neil Privacy Disclaimer: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the named addre

Re: Delay process bug

There have been enough reports that they know it happens on both macOS and Windows. Multiple reports indicate the processes can continue when RESUME PROCESS is called. In this case RESUME PROCESS would have worked, because when quitting the server, the processes started again because the quittin

Re: Delay process bug

We just released a new version of our software a week and a half ago. In this version I added a palette window on the server which runs On Timer. I also added code to most every background process which updates some information every time it wakes up from a Delay Process call. The palette window

Re: Delay process bug

22 days does sound suspicious; as if (no proof), the scheduler is testing if milliseconds "minus" process up-time is "greater than" delay time... such logic would break when milliseconds expressed in signed 32-bit long integer flips to negative, after 24 days. (milliseconds is counted since syste

RE: Delay process bug

> DELAY PROCESS never comes back Be sure to submit a bug with 4D when this happens. I submitted one and they said if it isn't reproducible they "can't" fix it. If there is enough complaining about it, I hope they would spend time digging into it and realize it is a problem even if it can't be r

Re: v13 - Windows, DOS, LEP, Virtual environments, attrib command

to rule out virtual environment as decisive factor, perhaps you could try https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-document-properties as mentioned multiple times, an accurate understanding of how path escaping works on CLI is required, especially for folder paths on windows as by definition they end

Re: Delay process bug

Our server (macOS 10.11, 4D 16.3 HF3 64-bit) hit this bug again last week after being up for about 22 days. There are 2 separate processes that run periodically, both at the same time stopped waking from DELAY PROCESS. The Server window also was not showing the 4D username in the user list, alth

v13 - Windows, DOS, LEP, Virtual environments, attrib command

I have run across a situation where I *think* the problem is a virtual environment. Using LEP I am trying to set files &/or folders (in)visible. The base attrib command is: attrib [+/-]H [/S /D] Path where [+/-] = make hidden/ make visible where [/S /D] = switches to apply to all files & folders

Re: v13+ Progress component, and other components

not exactly.. :) I have component which has 4D code which wraps the Progress component, this did 2 things for me - I had existing code for thermometers & barber poles, so I just used those method calls to manage Progress and id not have to go back through lots of code to change calls, method na

Re: v16 Time picker - bound variable changed

Thanks Keisuke. That explains it. I still have not wrapped my head around how to tell when a non-R version will have the features of an R-version. I have read the BLOG on it, and it does not go into that detail. How can we know what are ‘feature’ equivalent? I spent time yesterday reading on:

Re: Why won't Help Tip editor accept Carriage Return?

We manage help tips this way: - For each object, select the On Mouse Enter form event - We have a Help Tip named "HelpText" which simply contains a variable, tHelpText. Select that Help Tip for each object. - On the object, populate the tHelpText variable in the On Mouse Enter form event. With thi

Re: Write Pro: programmatically manipulate text expertise needed

Piotr, 1. I think you will need to use ST GET PLAIN TEXT to get all the text after the specified range and then look for the first return character in that selection. I believe this is the only way to get an accurate position with styled text. 2. Again, use ST GET PLAIN TEXT to get a range of text

Write Pro: programmatically manipulate text expertise needed

Hi all, We are in the progress of migrating from 4D Write to Write Pro A lot of things are going fine, but there is one area that seems easy but I am having difficulties with it and that is programmatically manipulating text I give 2 examples that maybe seem obvious to others but are not for me:

Re: Bug reports?

> >> Try >> >> http://forums.4d.com/Bugs/EN/ >> >> >this just redirect me to http://forums.4d.com/MyHome/EN, so I gather it >does this to non-partners too. Once you login the forum regardless of non-partner status, you should be able to see Bug link at the upper part of the page. Alan Chan

Re: Bug reports?

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Alan Chan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > Try > > http://forums.4d.com/Bugs/EN/ > > this just redirect me to http://forums.4d.com/MyHome/EN, so I gather it does this to non-partners too. -- Peter Bozek