[backstage] Historical listings..

2005-09-01 Thread Tony Hirst
one for the mix - just imagine of the bbc back catalogue was opened upyou could relive all sorts of events as if in real time ;-) http://www.jisc.ac.uk/index.cfm?name=television_research_news_310805 Earlier this year a new database was released which will change this situation for independent

RE: [backstage] Historical listings..

2005-09-01 Thread Nick Crossland
That would be really interesting... except you seem to need an academic logon in order to access it: "TVTiP is only available to bona fide students, researchers and teachers in further and higher education in the United Kingdom and to BUFVC members." Unless I'm missing something, the project was

[backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Ben Metcalfe
Title: backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition Dear all, I'm writing to let you know that the inaugural backstage.bbc.co.uk competition hasn’t gone as well as I had hoped.  In fact, at the time of sending this we haven’t received any entries at all. backstage.bbc.co.uk is very much abo

RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread David Tattersall
Title: backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition Hi,   Point 1 is probably most pertinent for me! I'd have preferred a simple XML list like:   How to start your own country 2130 2200 30   must like bleb.org :-)   Also - it's not the most enticing theme. TV schedules have been done befor

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Colin Moorcraft
Ben The intention was good! I hope that you will persist in looking for ways to encourage independent developers to make use of the TV-Anytime data. My guess is that people need more time to come up with interesting applications. - there's quite a steep learning curve for TV-A newcomers. - Co

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi Ben, Ben Metcalfe wrote: Moving forward, I’ve been trying to think about why this has happened – I'm sorry to hear that there haven't been any submissions -- I was really looking forward to see what people would come up with. As far as we (the Expway EPG/ESG team) are concerned it was sim

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Kay Chung
Except that with the Java API, the TV-Anytime files are fairly easy to parse... Perhaps they'll be a flood of entries next week? David Tattersall wrote: Hi, Point 1 is probably most pertinent for me! I'd have preferred a simple XML list like: How to start your own country 2130 2200 30

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Thomas Scott
(Note to self: enter competition.) In my case, the problem is three-fold: * The TV schedule data we provided over-complicated and in an alien format that was difficult to parse, That's the first problem. Parsing through two files, one containing program descriptions and the other containing

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Tim Parkinson
Personally I was quite interested in the competition, however holidays and chaos at work have meant no time to come up with an idea let alone work on it. Tim. On 9/1/05, Ben Metcalfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I'm writing to let you know that the inaugural back

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Oliver Jackson
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:57:34PM +0100, David Tattersall wrote: > >Also - it's not the most enticing theme. TV schedules have been done >before really. If you perhaps gave a goal - for example a project that >gradually learns what TV somebody likes and suggests programmes that >a

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Chris Gilbert
I think as is the case with many people it all comes down to time unfortunately.As someone else mentioned, I assumed you would be inundated with really cool stuff and that my offering of a couple of weekends here and there just wouldn't be up to scratch.  I guess I'll have to rethink.I also agree w

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Ben, I'm concerned at the hype around the use and provision of text, and the failure to engage users of other media, by releasing under published copyright (commons type) restrictions as advertised by the BBC. Even with text the BBC seemed to be trying to be pretty restrictive on copyrigh

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Tom Armitage
I was hoping to enter; indeed, I got about 1/3 of the way through my project but sheer lack of time and expertise has got in the way. The main problem was parsing the XML. I'd developed the beginnings of the interface, and I was about to approach parsing the XML. Unfortunately, I ended up writing

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Steve Fitzpatrick
On 01/09/05, Ben Metcalfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * The TV schedule data we provided over-complicated and in an alien format > that was difficult to parse, This was the clincher for me I'm afraid. I'm great at coming up with ideas, but am not the world's best coder. And when I do hack so

Re: [backstage] Historical listings..

2005-09-01 Thread Jem Stone
>>one for the mix - just imagine of the bbc back catalogue was opened >>upyou could relive all sorts of events as if in real time ;-) >>http://www.jisc.ac.uk/index.cfm?name=television_research_news_310805 Thanks for that Tony.. I've had a couple of chats recently with the Radio Times team ab

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Chris Pawley
On 9/1/05, Jonathan Chetwynd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe the TV schedule concept isn't that exciting, but just mightbe with access to sound, picture and motion files, perhaps an onlinemixing console? there are excellent versions online that work withfixed files jellify BBC content XML

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Duncan Barclay
It does seem like a lot of people have had a lack of time.  Personally I didn't find it too hard to parse the listings, although it could have been easier with a simpler format.  I think I have made it clear that developing something around a BBC led theme isn't really a problem for me :) I

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread unigamer
I was hoping to get something in but other stuff got in the ways and I'm still not a very good coder. TV-Anytime is just to difficult for me to parse, I really needed simple RSS style feeds or an easy-to-use parser. On 01/09/05, Steve Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/09/05, Ben Metca

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Dogsbody
I'm writing to let you know that the inaugural backstage.bbc.co.uk competition hasn’t gone as well as I had hoped. In fact, at the time of sending this we haven’t received any entries at all. Ouch! Much as others have said, time is a factor. A number of the forums/websites that I use tend

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Noisecrime_PIPEX
- Original Message - From: "Ben Metcalfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry bit of a long reply. * The idea of developing around a BBC-led theme, even for a prize, isn't an approach that is of interest to the backstage.bbc.co.uk community. I quite liked the idea, although it did feel a

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Stephen Tomlinson
I'd like to just add another voice to the call for XML feeds. It's much easier to parse with the abundance of libraries. Also, off-topic, but any chance of the Weather feed (XML aussi) being added? The GNOME-UK team would like to use it. Stephen Ben Metcalfe said: > * The TV schedule data we prov

RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Luke Dicken
Title: Message For my part, all the interesting things I came up with were very AI related, which meant they were really just ways of procrastinating from working on my dissertation and commercial-type stuff, so I couldn't legitimately justify spending the time on it. I think in general this

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Ben O'Neill
the problem for me was that the data is overly complex. On 01/09/05, Luke Dicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > For my part, all the interesting things I came up with were very AI related,> which meant they were really just ways of procrastinating from working on my> dissertation and commercia

[backstage] UPDATE backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule Competition

2005-09-01 Thread Ben Metcalfe
Following on from feedback received so far (on list and off list), I've got some updates for you all... **Timing** Holidays, enjoying the sun, etc -- it sounds like many of you have just not had an opportunity to get round to working on your ideas. Therefore we are going to extend the competitio

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread James Ockenden
yeah i would probably have got off my arse and learned what a crid wasif the prize had been a top of the line g4 with cinema display. On 02/09/05, Luke Dicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > As far as the prize goes, a rackable> server again limits your target audience - perhaps something more ma

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Chris Gilbert
yeah i would probably have got off my arse and learned what a crid wasif the prize had been a top of the line g4 with cinema display. I don't get out of bed for anything less than a G5 Dual Processor & Cinema Screen Display -- Chris Gilbert 07966 077 486 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1 Sep 2005

RE: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread David Tattersall
Hi Steve, Weather.com has a good XML feed that provides forecasts for up to 5 days in advance. I think they're pretty OK about usage (the usuals - display their logo, non commercial etc). I've used it in the past and I have to say it's a dream to use! David -Original Message- From: [EM

Re: [backstage] backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule competition

2005-09-01 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Me too! I don't get out of bed for anything less than a G5 Dual Processor & Cinema Screen Display cheers Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Learning Disabilities and the Internet 29 Crimsworth Road SW8 4RJ 020 7978 1764 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To

Re: [backstage] UPDATE backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule Competition

2005-09-01 Thread J.P.Knight
tin and makes things really easy. So get to it folks... Jim'll#!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use TV::Anytime; my $tv = TV::Anytime->new("20050901/"); my @searchterms = ('railway', 'computer'); print "Program Synopsis Keyword Search\n"; print

Re: [backstage] UPDATE backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule Competition

2005-09-01 Thread Duncan Barclay
"TV Anytime might be a pain in the bum if you're writing a parser from scratch. So don't - use one someone has already written!" I assume you haven't tried doing it in PHP then :) I coded my own XML parser in PHP a while ago (just as a challenge), and that works fairly well to put the stuff

Re: [backstage] UPDATE backstage.bbc.co.uk TV Schedule Competition

2005-09-01 Thread J.P.Knight
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Duncan Barclay wrote: I assume you haven't tried doing it in PHP then :) No, and I didn't try doing it in Perl either. That's what CPAN is for... ;-) ;-) Anyway, take a squint at http://conduit.lboro.ac.uk/cgi-bin/tva-search> for a web version of my toy script. I notice