more BARF questions

2003-08-14 Thread Vicky Whitney
Hi, Kendra. I'll BRIEFLY address your BARF questions, as this is sort of a taboo subject here on the Berner-L. Like some other emotionally-charged topics it has caused big flame wars in the past. A more appropriate place for discussion and getting some EXCELLENT information, support

Re: more BARF questions

2003-08-14 Thread Karyn Waugh
There are several books out there that you can read about BARF. My personal favorites are: all of Dr. Ian Billinghurst's books (Give your dog a bone, grow your pup on bones, and his new one BARF Diet), and Susan Johnson's book, Switching to Raw. You may want to consider j

BARF ALTERNATIVES

2003-08-08 Thread Tschuggen
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more BARF questions

2003-08-05 Thread KendyBo
Hi again, I'm starting to think about trying BARF again, and have a few questions. 1. Is there a simple book I can get, with information, and most of all, recipes? 2. Is there an easy way to make the BARF diet? Does it have to consist of "tons" of ingredients, and does it

BARF versus Kibble, Berner-L Discussions

2003-07-05 Thread Pat Long & Paul Dangel
ny lengthy discussion of BARF can be done on the Natural Berners yahoogroup List. Anyone who would like to ask about BARF or give a general summary on the Berner-L, please do! We always have new people on the List, and we'd always like to hear more. As in any discussion, it is best not to make ne

what is BARF?

2003-06-10 Thread Vicky Whitney
erwise balanced diet. It is your responsibility to understand what you're putting in and on your new puppy (food, vaccinations, pesticides, etc.). BARF stands for "biologically appropriate raw foods" or "bones and raw foods." The theory behind it is that all life was des

Re: "excuse my ignorance" what is BARF, etc.

2003-06-09 Thread The Ortega Family
I also know only a little but while all of you with the expertise are answering the question posed by Andie "excuse my ignorance" -- what is the BARF diet? -- would you please address generally, HOW vegetables, fruits, and other "human" raw foods are prepared for dogs? I&

First timer--barf diet and puppies

2003-06-08 Thread etfonehome1
My cute little Hawkeye (we are oringinally from Iowa) is 5 mo old and #58. He is not thin but looking tall and sleek. This is the first dog I have ever feed the BARF diet to. My other two adult dogs are also participating. They are doing great with the adult dogs eating 2% fo their body wt

Re: BARF and trichinosis

2003-02-17 Thread Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Thanks for the info. Vicky. I don't feed BARF, but am not against it. Growing up I had a Mom who drilled into me that pork MUST be well done or we'd all die of trichinosis! So was just curious about dogs who ate it raw. : ) Bernerly, Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners

BARF and trichinosis

2003-02-17 Thread Vicky Whitney
act trichinosis from a wide variety of wild game meats. (I feed raw wild elk, antelope, bison, and deer meat here in Montana, but I will NOT feed bear meat to my dogs.) People and dogs can carry trichinella cysts but not be clinically affected. Most us who feed BARF or another raw diet do feed ra

Joining NaturalBerners list (was BARF)

2003-02-17 Thread Vicky Whitney
In response to a question about a BARF diet, I suggested anyone interested in BARF, natural raw diets, or discussions on more "natural" treatment of Berner health in general, join the NaturalBerners list at yahoogroups.com. Deb Tripp, the moderator, just reminded me that this is a

RE: BARF

2003-02-17 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Maria, I found a reliable source for Marks and Spencers Teas:-) The extra strong malty brew sets me up for the day. Five mugs during the course of the day and I never drink tea after mid-afternoon unless I'm whelping puppies through the night:-) Never ever will instant coffee pass my lips and I

RE: BARF

2003-02-16 Thread Rose Tierney
y' Cc: 'Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List' Subject: Re: BARF ok. I can't let this go by! Cabernet and Vouvray (to go with the lobster) Lobster and Filet Mignon with Bearnaise sauce Chocolate Mousse Skittles (blink, blink) Columbian coffee and Earl Grey Tea Maria Crifasi The Snowy Catoctin Mountains, MD

Re: BARF

2003-02-15 Thread Pat Long
Karen, I don't need to make scrapple, they sell it in the stores. We're civilized here in the Philadelphia area. We also have Utz potato chips. I do make a mean cheesesteak, however! Pat Long, visiting a bevy of Maine's Berners, Vooreesville, NY

Re: BARF

2003-02-15 Thread James and Karen Gross
Pat, Is this true? Do you eat Scrapple? My husband is from Nebraska and he has been trying and trying to find scrapple since he moved here (Oregon), of course, no body here even knows what scrapple is Do you have a recipe? I would love to surprise him sometime and make him some thanks Ka

Re: BARF

2003-02-15 Thread Maria Crifasi
teve Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Rose Tierney'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:29 AM Subject: RE: BARF > Hi, > For the British:-) > >

Re: BARF/YahooGoup

2003-02-15 Thread Liz Caldwell
At 10:39 AM -0500 2/15/03, E M Poster wrote: >Dear Vicky... I just went to YahooGroups and did a search for NaturalBerners >in every shape and form that I can think of but alas I can not find it. Can >you help me here? >BTW... I/We are new to the this list as well as a waiting list for a Berner >P

Re: BARF/YahooGoup

2003-02-15 Thread E M Poster
Dear Vicky... I just went to YahooGroups and did a search for NaturalBerners in every shape and form that I can think of but alas I can not find it. Can you help me here? BTW... I/We are new to the this list as well as a waiting list for a Berner Pup. This E-List is a veritable fountain of inform

RE: BARF

2003-02-15 Thread Steve Weber
Hi, For the British:-) Tea Chocolate Red Wine Cheese Not ONLY for the British, Rose! A few of us Yankee drink only tea! But I prefer the dry white wines. Tea Chocolate White wine Cheese(all the boys agree on this one!) chocolate Lynne and the guys Keyport, Washington

BARF

2003-02-14 Thread Vicky Whitney
ORIGINAL POST: From:"Jenn and Scott Waldron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have been reading a lot about the BARF diet and have heard a lot of positive things and no negatives. Are there any draw backs to a raw diet? Does a raw diet make the dog more aggressive and less domesticated?

RE: BARF

2003-02-14 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi, For the British:-) Tea Chocolate Red Wine Cheese Mine has two anti-oxidants! Rose T.

Re: BARF

2003-02-14 Thread jane heggen
TED]> To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: Re: BARF > At 11:26 PM 13/02/2003 -0600, Pat wrote: > >My understanding of the four basic food groups for humans is > >

Re: BARF

2003-02-14 Thread wendy beard
At 11:26 PM 13/02/2003 -0600, Pat wrote: My understanding of the four basic food groups for humans is as follows: Chocolate McDonald's Potato Chips Chocolate That's not a mistake, chocolate is important enough to be two separate food groups Hee hee. Someone on the Belgian list has a sig. line

BARF Diet

2003-02-14 Thread JAL
Dog a Bone" by Dr. Ian Billinghurst. This book is easy to understand and explains the principles of the BARF diet. There is also a yahoo group specifically for people that raw-feed their Berners called Natural Berners. The only drawback to the diet that I can see is 1) you must do your h

Re: BARF

2003-02-14 Thread jane heggen
& the boys of iowa - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: Re: BARF > I see that you do in deed lack dietary knowledge, Pat, tho you

Re: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
H .I think that Pat is going to have to add a 5th (no pun intended) item (Margueritas) to her four basic food groups!!! Joye Neff --On Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:10 PM -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:48:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see that you do in de

Re: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread gwebara
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:48:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I see that you do in deed lack dietary knowledge, Pat, tho you have a > good > understanding of the basics. You listed the 4 basic food groups as: > > Chocolate > McDonald's > Potato Chips > Chocolate > > You scored a 50%,which is re

Re: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Brnrmom
I see that you do in deed lack dietary knowledge, Pat, tho you have a good understanding of the basics. You listed the 4 basic food groups as: Chocolate McDonald's Potato Chips Chocolate You scored a 50%,which is really pretty good, you are half there. Here is the correct list, based on my inte

RE: BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Pat Long & Paul Dangel
Jean, The biggest drawback I know of the BARF diet is a lack of dietary knowledge. My understanding of the four basic food groups for humans is as follows: Chocolate McDonald's Potato Chips Chocolate That's not a mistake, chocolate is important enough to be two separate food groups

BARF

2003-02-13 Thread Jenn and Scott Waldron
Thank you everyone who sent me information and supply lists. I am just about ready for my boy to come home. I have one last issue to resolve. I have been reading a lot about the BARF diet and have heard a lot of positive things and no negatives. Are there any draw backs to a raw diet? Does a raw