[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Fingers crossed Adobe will make a few Breezos (or whatever they call it now) availble ;) On 16/10/06, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe Dale - when you come back - do a MAX conference roundup for us? > > That'd be cool! > > Mark > > On 10/16/06, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

[cfaussie] Re: No Access to CF Admin

2006-10-16 Thread Carlos-Amigos
Don't worry worked it out.. Thanks On Oct 16, 3:38 pm, "Carl Vanderpal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone received this error before: (it happens when I go to CF Admin) - > and Google only shows 1 result for this error and there is no answer to his > question. > > got this on my dev server

[cfaussie] Re: No Access to CF Admin

2006-10-16 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 10/16/06, Carlos-Amigos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't worry worked it out.. What was it? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message becaus

[cfaussie] Re: No Access to CF Admin

2006-10-16 Thread Carl Vanderpal
I seemed to have lost some connection where .cfm files were getting downloaded instead of getting served, so the Docs say go to 'Start>Programs>Macromedia>ColdFusion MX7>WebServer ConfigTool' and you can re-enter the details to reestablish, but the problem was I selected ColdFusion MX7, problem was

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Explorer and Application.cfm

2006-10-16 Thread Charlie Arehart
OK, thanks for clarifying. I've got some interesting observations. First, I've just tried to confirm how the CFC explorer works with CFINCLUDEd templates that declare new methods, and--without even bothering to test use of application variables--I find that such methods don't show up in the CFC e

[cfaussie] ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread George Lu
My boss asked me to get on ASP.NET. I asked him why. He's given me following reasons:   - One indication of popularity is the trend of searches that are made on google: http://www.google.com/trends?q=ColdFu

[cfaussie] CF 7 installation issues (uninstall CFMX 6.1)

2006-10-16 Thread George Lu
Hi,   I've got two Windows servers. I've installed CF7 over CFMX6.1 in both servers. The problem is the old CF server (6.1) is still existing (the service is still running). Specially both Scheduler (6.1 & 7) are running same schedules. I've tried to remove (uninstall) CFMX 6.1 in one of the serve

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Scott
The trends by Google seem to be based on search patterns, my conclusion and it’s a guess that more Coldfusion developers don’t need to search fro coldfusion problems because of the support network.   1)   Coldfusion is still successful, and is getting into more large scale sites the p

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Joel Cass
 That's interesting..   Though, perhaps that is because CF has not changed all that much. Sure, you can do all the fancy OO stuff these days but it is still just a bunch of cfif, cfinclude, and cfoutput statements tied together. Asp.net is rather different from traditional asp, so therefore

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Barry Beattie
> * Very few good programmers available on this point, ASP.NET does not a good programmer make. in fact I'd argue that some parts of ASP.NET actually support bad habits, if you compare against Java best practices. lots of CF "good programmers" are "good programmers" origionally from other langu

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Scott
Barry, I think 98% of us are going to answer number 5. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Mark Mandel
Where is the 6) @m $up3r 733+ C0lfU$!n [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm waiting for that one...before I even consider anwering any questions (and then I'm going to pick number 4) Mark On 10/17/06, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Barry, > > I think 98% of us are going to answer number 5. > >

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Dale Fraser
Firstly,   I think those graphs are just garbage plotted, search for anything popular and the graph doesn’t always go as you would think. For example search for Microsoft. I think they are in trouble.   As for your bosses points, they are mostly valid with some clarification. ·   

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Barry Beattie
ho ho ho yeah, well, it was just a quick'n'dirty idea to try and make the point that there's a large number of ColdFusion programmers who weren't born that way in fact you could do a lot worse than hiring a Java or VB programmer and re-training them in CF... new blood as it were. Bottom lin

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread
OR option (7) I'm still learning ColdFusion but my boss wants me to learn .NET I'll choose option (1) thank you very much. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this g

[cfaussie] Re: MySQL and CF

2006-10-16 Thread
Thanks guys, Yeah I worked that out a few days ago. This question didn't go up for DAYSmust have been a google thang. Thanks anyway. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. T

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Blair McKenzie
I agree. I came to my CF job out of uni with no experience with it and found it to be the easiest language I'd ever seen (cfquery - sweet). A couple of weeks later I was, not an expert, but competent enough to be developing a new website solo. The learning curve in CF is so smooth that anyone w

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread grant
we are small fryhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=PHP%2C+coldfusion%2C+asp.net%2C+java&ctab=1&geo=AU&date=all put me down for (5) & (6)On 10/17/06, Blair McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree. I came to my CF job out of uni with no experience with it and found it to be the easiest language I'd e

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Mark Mandel
Its just that those languages require more help than ColdFusion does... I'm only half joking I know where to find help on Coldfusion - without having to go to google, and 90% of the time, I can do it faster, without google. That and I don't need to do searches for ColdFusion very often. Mark

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Explorer and Application.cfm

2006-10-16 Thread Chris Velevitch
It sounds strange that you can have a cfc include a function that can be called, but not appear in the CFC Explorer or the GetMetaData function (which I guess CFC Explorer uses). So it's possible that the GetMetaData could be reading the file to get the private function data as a cfdump of an obj

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Dale Fraser
As I said the graphs are rubbish.   Based on the graph asp.net existed before Coldfusion.   Regards Dale Fraser   From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of grant Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:05 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaus

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Darren Tracey
Based on this graph: http://www.google.com/trends?q=google%2C+ebay%2C+coldfusion%2C+asp.net%2C+java&ctab=1&geo=AU&date=all all web development is stagnating and we should all just use Google and eBay instead. Put me down for a 5 Barry. Darren Tracey --~--~-~--~~~--

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 10/17/06, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.google.com/trends?q=google%2C+ebay%2C+coldfusion%2C+asp.net%2C+java&ctab=1&geo=AU&date=all > all web development is stagnating and we should all just use Google and > eBay instead. Maybe so, but look at how Flash dominates ;-) http:

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Dale Fraser
If you look at the number references you will realise that the words are NOT programming specific. So when searching for flash, lots of this will be flash memory and flash camera related. Java also is a Country and benefits from this one. http://www.google.com/trends?q=jsp%2C+asp%2C+coldfusion%

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Darren Tracey
If you look at this one, you'll see that we should all get into these 'jobs' things. They seem quite popular too. Google Trends. What a silly and fundamentally useless thing. (Its still cool though) I'll have great fun using this to justify whatever bizarre scheme I next need to convince someone

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Chris Velevitch
Become a politician. Here are some good books for the politically minded ;-) http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-1876436-2467216?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=how+to+lie+with+statistics&Go.x=7&Go.y=11&Go=Go Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread George Lu
>From the graph, you can see ASP.NET is very popular or more search in India... On 17/10/06, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you look at the number references you will realise that the words are NOTprogramming specific. So when searching for flash, lots of this will be flash memory and fl

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Mark Mandel
Well.. actually.. you are right.. http://www.google.com/trends?q=kittens%2C+Coldfusion%2C+OO%2C+off+shore+outsourcing&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all Mark On 10/17/06, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you look at this one, you'll see that we should all get into these > 'jobs' things. The

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Dale Fraser
This is fun I could do this all day. This one made me cancel the Pizza shop, seems that Coldfusion is set for a much larger customer base just based on being in the Adobe product suite. http://www.google.com/trends?q=allaire%2C+macromedia%2C+adobe&ctab=0&geo=all &date=all Regards Dale Fraser

[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Acrobat Connectos :P Yo Steve, Can we postpone till Dale gets back. I would love to hear what the man has to say about his Las Vegas journey. Hey Dale, Are you taking a cam with you, bring back some goodies for the group :) Bjorn -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [ma

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Flash dominates over ALL! Hehe We are talking about Dwayne 'Flash' Wade from the Miami Heat arnet we? Those trend graphs are wack! You would need to create mad exclusion statements to get accurate results. But still in the spirit of the moment my favourite has to be flash vs ajax. -Origi

[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread Steve Onnis
Ok people who would be coming to the CFUG meeting. We happy to postpone it till first week in November? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:03 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject:

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Steve Onnis
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ford%2Cholden&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all looks like ford is the winner in Australia, only just though -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:06 PM To: cfaussi

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Steve Onnis
WHOO HOO http://www.google.com/trends?q=mac%2Cpc&ctab=1&geo=all&date=all And PC wins! -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:06 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re:

[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread Dale Fraser
I am Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:08 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: VIC UG Ok people who would be coming t

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Steve Onnis
The jury is out on this one http://www.google.com/trends?q=internet+explorer%2C+firefox&ctab=1&geo=all&d ate=all -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:06 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.c

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Steve Onnis
http://www.google.com/trends?q=windows%2Clinux&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all windows wins again -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:06 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] R

[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread Dale Fraser
Bjorn, I'm taking a camera, what did you have in mind, I'm not sure I'd want to or they would let me video the sessions. But will get some photos for sure. I'm going to lots of Flex 2 sessions so there will be plenty to update on. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original M

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Disclaimer::: Mac book pro chews any pc based notebook :) -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend? WHOO HOO http:/

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Man what is this world coming to: Kittens thrown in frying pan in NY Kittens Mailed To Vermont With Brush Trimmer Kittens Survive Two-Day Journey In Box Australian Business man makes millions from kitten export business... hehe -Original Message- From: cfau

[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
I want pictures of Ted Patrick and Mike Chambers in Las Vegas strip clubs.. We'll make millions from extortion dollars Just kidding ;[ *wink *wink Man there will be so many things released there i'm sure you'll be snapping happily, but mostly i would like to see snapshot of Apollo and Blaze.

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
So what are you saying Mark, we should be exporting kittens...? Hmmm, i'll see what i can organise. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:51 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussi

[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread George Lu
Sounds good for me. On 17/10/06, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok people who would be coming to the CFUG meeting. We happy to postpone ittill first week in November? -Original Message-From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Bjorn Schultheiss S

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
So what are you saying Andrew, we should be exporting pussy...? Hmmm, i'll see what i can organise. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:45 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfauss

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Scott
No leave all pussies here, find something else to export. Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesd

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Scott
I enjoy pussies :-) Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Schultheiss Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:23 PM To: cfaus

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Barry Beattie
>> find something else to export. how about off-topic (and off colour posts)? there seems to be no shortage of them... On 10/17/06, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No leave all pussies here, find something else to export. > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.ae

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Andrew Scott
LOL Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:53 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Barry Beattie
So George... does this help? that your boss should stop worrying about platforms, ColdFusion or whatever and get into smuggling wildlife out of the country? I'm glad we can all gang together and come up with such a worthwhile solution for you. Enjoy! On 10/17/06, Bjorn Schultheiss <[EMAIL P

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
Yeah good point! Funny thread.. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Scott Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 1:50 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend? No leave all pussies here, find something

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread George Lu
Thank so much Barry and all other people in this thread. It does very help. Now I'm confident with CF. I've already passed your answers and this thread to my boss. On 17/10/06, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So George... does this help?that your boss should stop worrying about platforms,

[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG

2006-10-16 Thread Steve Armstrong
Sounds like a good decision to me too! On 10/17/06, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds good for me. On 17/10/06, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Ok people who would be coming to the CFUG meeting. We happy to postpone ittill first week in November? -Original Message-From

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Darren Tracey
Barry, I don't think kittens class as wildlife. I think the Australian environment would greatly benefit from vast quantities of kittens being shipped out of Australia. I have visions of vast herds of Aussie school children combing alleys, backyards and bushland for any unguarded kittens and ear

[cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion trend?

2006-10-16 Thread Darren Tracey
George Of course, if he is still hell bent on following the .net path based on what was in Google Trends, then show him the kitten thing and say goodbye to your days as a web developer. If you are going to be handling kittens in bulk, I would suggest invesing in some of those stainless steel link