My summary from LinuxWorld

2008-08-11 Thread Jeremy Chang
Hi, I forward my trip report from LinuxWorld here. :) Best Regards, Jeremy Chang - Forwarded message from Jeremy Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:18:59 +0800 From: Jeremy Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [gta02] My summary from

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ship with nothing and everyone put what want So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) steve wrote: > Good question. > > Here are the options. > > 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. > 2. Ship with Qtopi

Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 There still are some things that need to be worked on for the

Re: Kernel and Dual booting

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Mikael Berthe wrote: | |> Or is there a way to prevent opkg from flashing the kernel? It would be |> nice to upgrade /uImage.bin instead! | | I don't know of a way to do this at the moment, but it would be

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
u want v5 one) http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080809/ but they aren't in 20080811 dir, bit confusing. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - h

Re: Om 2008.8 Multiverse repository bug

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 03:25:53PM -0700, abatrour wrote: > > I noticed while editing a part on the wiki that the url for the multiverse > repository (/etc/opkg/Multiverse-feed.conf) for Om 2008.8 was wrong. > > > src/gz daily-Multiverse http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/multiverse > > T

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-11 Thread Jay Vaughan
> Will report in case of success. Great! It'd be pretty nice if we could come up with an installable app that will just do the "Copy from Flash to SD and re-configure to boot from SD" process for an end user. I'd find it quite useful - as a matter of fact I prefer to have my entire system

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Jay Vaughan
> Ship with nothing and everyone put what want > > So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) Ship with *all* available distributions on the *SD Card*, and include a script that lets you copy your desired distribution to flash once you've checked them all out .. ; -- Jay Vaughan

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Yorick Moko
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ship with nothing and everyone put what want >> >> So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) > > > Ship with *all* available distributions on the *SD Card*, and include > a script that lets you copy your desired dis

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
GREAT JOB!!! very well done... keep up the great work Paul!! +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Tilman Baumann
steve wrote: > Good question. > > Here are the options. > > 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. > 2. Ship with Qtopia. A solid full featured smart phone. > 3. Ship with OM2008.8 An alpha release of our future phone. 4. Ship bare metal and let the users choose.

Om 2008.8 on Golem

2008-08-11 Thread Kolja Dummann
Hi Folks, i found a review of the Om 2008.8 on Golem. It is only in German. http://www.golem.de/0808/61637.html So have fun with it ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Erwin
> If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone > wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the > message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs in both > images as well. This is now fixed in the latest qtopia image 080808 (haven't tried

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
> If I take a concrete example : my ~/.wgetrc. > i wan't to connect to internet > - from home, with wifi, I have direct access to internet. > - from work, with wifi, I must use a proxy. > - from outside, I must use GPRS with another proxy. > > It's easy to make a script that will update .wgetrc.

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
> It didn't occur to me to mount the card ro, but I will try it and see > if it helps. not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on suspend and remount on resume? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
I gave it a try, too! I have a t-mobile flat rate which I use from my laptop. I just copied the file to the freerunner altered /etc/group as you supposed. My files look like this: /etc/ppp/peers/t-mobile --- user "tm" connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/connect-t-mobile" /d

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Hi, I read the post about the new review for the freeunner on golem. While reading I wondered what screenshots they used in a text announcing the new firmware. A few moments later I followed the link to the wiki page for Om2008.8. I think the screenshots on the page should show what you get afte

No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is capable to slow down other things extremely. The SIM Pin dialog is working with the new f

Initrd partition for fix kernel and modules possible incompatibilities by upgrade

2008-08-11 Thread Tomasz Czapiewski
I've been thinking about this since some time and I'd like to know why don't you make one more partition with initrd which would have some needed modules and basic scripts for proper complete OpenMoko boot (for example: g_ether etc. - I don't know which modules are used in boot process - my FR

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Norbert Hartl wrote: > What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems > other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking > at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't > understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is capable to slow > down other things extremely. The SIM Pin d

A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
Hi, I was bored and just wrote a little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/391300/ . For the zenity-gui you need of course zenity and a bash-shell. To make the progress-bar work you need to patch dfu-util: $ diff dfu-util/src/sam7dfu-old.c dfu-util/src/sam7df

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
Thanks Norbert very much for finally finding the real problem with the pin dialog not appearing! Removing this makes the pin-dialog appear for me with !!every boot!! now ca. 15-20 sec after x started. Before this patch the pin-dialog just appeared 1 out of 40 boots! This is a big improvment. So

Re: Initrd partition for fix kernel and modules possible incompatibilities by upgrade

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I've been thinking about this since some time and I'd like to know why | don't you make one more partition with initrd which would have some | needed modules and basic scripts for proper complete OpenMoko bo

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
> If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to > see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the card and it's content are unchanged, thus preventing unnecessary searching? i do not use qtopia, s

Re: Where is it?

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:08:15PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 17:46:22 schrieb Scott: > > I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went > > without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its > > listed in the "uninstall" li

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:01 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: > Norbert Hartl wrote: > > What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems > > other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking > > at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't > > understand it but the CPU usage of qpe

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Thanks! But your proposal is a bit harsh for me :) You just need to put 0 to the config items in section "SD Card". That solves it as well. Norbert On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:35 +0200, Rorschach wrote: > Thanks Norbert very much for finally finding the real problem with the pin > dialog not appea

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:41 +0200, arne anka wrote: > > If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to > > see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? > > wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the > card and it's content are unchanged,

Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Samstag, den 09.08.2008, 09:12 -0700 schrieb Charles-Henri Gros: > > How can I activate the keyboard? Or how can I automate the appearance at > > selection of an enter field? > > Depending on what distribution you're running, see: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle > or > http:

Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed? Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@

Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
> I did the second method successfully, but now I don't have the other > icons (wifi, BT, battery, etc.) in the upper line. did you restart X or reboot? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/l

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Baroukh
> > for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable > defining the proxy . Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ? Not optimal ... Anyway do you know who put this variable ? And where to configure it's value ? Mike arne anka a écrit :

Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
I tried to restart the X but that failed with an unreadable repeating error message. Afterwards I had to reboot. Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 14:17 +0200 schrieb arne anka: > > I did the second method successfully, but now I don't have the other > > icons (wifi, BT, battery, etc.) in the upper line.

Re: Using openocd

2008-08-11 Thread xiangfu
Lynn Nguyen wrote: > I believe so. I used the openocd.cfg that is given on the wiki. I've even > followed the steps here: > http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/notes/openocd > which seem to be legit. The step I get stuck on is running openocd. I think > maybe there is something wrong with the

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
>> for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable >> defining the proxy . > > Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ? > Not optimal ... i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to the apps and done by which la

Re: Kernel and Dual booting

2008-08-11 Thread DooD
To prevent opkg from upgrading the kernel try: opkg flag hold kernel-2.6.24 opkg flag hold kernel-image-2.6.24 Altho i think you only need to block the kernel-image-2.6.24 After getting a neo1973 kernel and a bad kernel that wouldnt boot from opkg, i do all my kernel upgrades with the dfu-ut

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? -> SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
> And glad some nice soul added details to : > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there anymore. Wher

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? -> SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Yorick Moko
I could reboot and still have the full querty... On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Rorschach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And glad some nice soul added details to : >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard > > Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has a

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? -> SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
huh: after a second reboot the full-qwerty was back again?? this is confusing.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Baroukh
> > i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to > the apps and done by which layer is responsible for managing th connection. indeed, if the variable is only in environnement, you must restart. Also, I'm still not sure that there is a variable. Who can set it ? Only p

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Ross Woodruff
Dont have my freerunner yet but that really is a great bit of work, keep it up, can see this being really useful, only criticism some of the gestures seems to be a little, well, over the top, I mean, if I was on the bus and I started doing the Z shape for example people would think what I was u

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Esben Stien
"arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating > that the card and it's content are unchanged inotify -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i .

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
>> wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating >> that the card and it's content are unchanged > > inotify does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmok

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:00 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on suspend and > remount on resume? What if you've got some processes running of that SD card? You'll need to kill them before unmounting the card. And then, your

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
> What if you've got some processes running of that SD card? You'll need > to kill them before unmounting the card. we're speaking of a workaround, do we? > And then, your suspend&resume will look more and more like > "shutdown&restart". why, atm it looks more like shutdown & reinstall ... __

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Pritam, Ghanghas (IE10) wrote: > Hi All > > I had put this wish list once but no one considered that I guess. Is it > that stupid? At least give your review guys. > > OMAP3530 > http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/omap3530.html > I see lot of benefits from this shift >Cam

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Pawel Kowalak
On Aug 11, 2008, at 12:00 PM, arne anka wrote: >> It didn't occur to me to mount the card ro, but I will try it and see >> if it helps. > > > not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on > suspend and > remount on resume? It's not that easy. But IIRC somebody on OLPC tracker s

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Šenkeřík
I suggest more discreet gestures, like was the shaking one. I understand it is harder to recognize them and not to recognize them by accident in normal use. But what about starting recognizing only with pressed AUX button? You can replace actual function of "locking screen" by much more where one o

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:01 +0200, arne anka wrote: > >> wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating > >> that the card and it's content are unchanged > > > > inotify > > does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? No, inotify is an observer at runtime.

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
While we're on the topic of hardware wishlist stuff, I'd like to throw in my two cents ^.^ - Hot swapable SD card slot - External wifi antenna connector (Mmmm war driving) - Official openmoko car charger (That gives me 1A without having to futz around) Also, I'd like the camera idea to be an opt

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Wow, that is great!!! How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean how detailed you could draw a shape on the screen from the figure you painted in the air? Or even better. Do you think it would be possible to do something like palms grafiti without knocking your neighbor out? :)

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-11 Thread Baruch Even
* steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 04:39]: > Yes, > > Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give > them first access to new product. > If you are in the US you can buy from Koolu, same price, same product, > our partner. They don't seem to be selling the extra

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Yogiz
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:37:31 -0400 Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While we're on the topic of hardware wishlist stuff, I'd like to > throw in my two cents ^.^ --- > - External wifi antenna connector (Mmmm war driving) Isn't it already there? Search for a thread called 'External WiFi Ant

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-11 Thread Yorick Moko
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 04:39]: >> Yes, >> >> Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give >> them first access to new product. >> If you are in the US you can buy from Koolu, same

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-11 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Koolu seems to be better then the direct shop for far away orders, only $60 CAD for shipping to ZA vs $120 from direct. Now to get my dad's credit card details Cheers, Federico On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080811 04:39]

Re: Kernel and Dual booting

2008-08-11 Thread Mikael Berthe
* DooD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-11 14:38 +0200]: > > To prevent opkg from upgrading the kernel try: > > opkg flag hold kernel-2.6.24 > opkg flag hold kernel-image-2.6.24 I can do that, but I'd like to have the latest fixes anyway (esp. teh SD corruption fix as soon as there's one!). > Altho

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Joseph Reeves
Looks great! I've basically got the same questions as Norbert does. Plus I'd like to know how I can get me screen to auto-rotate ;-) Joseph 2008/8/11 Norbert Hartl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wow, that is great!!! > > How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean > how detailed you cou

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Matt
Bravo Paul, I'm looking forward to this project maturing. Will your next release be able to record new gestures or only detect the ones in the demo? Am I right in thinking this will use dbus and detected gestures will generate events for other apps for use. Regards Matt Paul-Valentin Borza wr

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
>> > inotify >> >> does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? > > No, inotify is an observer at runtime. thought so. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/commu

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 10:52, arne anka wrote: > ... all programs > connecting to the net should be absolutely agnostic to the kind of > connection you use. What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when y

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. So, I tried the accelerometer test script here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval Still no output. Is there something I have to do to turn the accelerometers on? On Monday 11 August 2008 03:35:39 Paul-Va

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think people will be willing to pay an extra $200 just to get a > camera in there. Please do some research before making baseless comments. Camera modules do not cost $200. More like $10. Less in quantity. See

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: ... There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video. Hi there, I'm slightly disappointed that the "shaking in

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
> What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check > for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when > you are on holiday in Spain. i am afraid that's beyond the scope of the solution i outlined. though i guess as soon as the necessary informations are avai

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Baroukh
> > I described how the Nokia N95 handles this in my post of 10 August > 2008 13:30:19 BST (search for "N95" in the subject) but perhaps not > very clearly, as I hoped for more replies. Apparently I wasted too > Well, I found your post. Effectively, it was pretty ... long ... On each typ

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Monday 11 August 2008 11:00:50 Stroller wrote: > > On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: > > ... > > There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, > > but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with > > everything you've just seen in the YouTub

zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-11 Thread Witoslaw Koczewski
Hi, I would like to learn FSO development by modifying zhone. Is there a way to run zhone on my ubuntu desktop or do I need to test on a neo device? Thank You, Witek___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.

Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

2008-08-11 Thread Andrew Burgess
Perhaps this will help until Andy gets the new kernel ready. I had vanishing partition table problems on my OLPC XO (fixed now in kernel 2.6.25). I found that I could avoid data loss by doing two things: 1) create a swap partition as the first partition. 2) when the table vanishes, recreate it EXA

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wrote: >> ... >> I'm slightly disappointed that the "shaking inbox" wouldn't be >> accommodated by the gestures you've made available. >> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/11/shoogle_gives_your_cellphone_b.html >> >> This use is even mentioned on the wiki page y

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-11 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > / Fredrik Wendt, who also has the exact same device Scott has, as many > others do too but doesn't scream WTF as soon his/her proclaimed > non-finished device shows it's serious hickups thx, you speak from my heart. best regards ... clemens ___

Re: cpu-speed limitations

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Rod Whitby wrote: > Hmm - there's a current issue regarding the GTA01 GPS gllin driver and > kernel /sys filesystem paths, so the response of Openmoko to that > "previous generation" issue is probably a good indicator of the sort of > attention that GTA02 Glamo will get once GTA03 is released.

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:11, Mike Baroukh wrote: >> What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check >> for new messages if you're on your provider's own network ... >> I described how the Nokia N95 handles this in my post of 10 August >> 2008 13:30:19 BST (search for "N95" in t

Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Andy Green wrote: [...] > Hey don't lose hope. There are two issues. First is just some big > cards are too slow to respond at default 16MHz clock with Glamo 16-bit > clock count timeout counter. See this > > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 > > Suspend / resume (partition overwrite

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Dale Maggee
Cool! Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: > Hi, > > As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing > what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: > http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 > > There still are

python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello, for my notebook I found a very good NetworkManager spare called wicd (http://wicd.sourceforge.net/), it is a python based application to handle WLAN. I am a absolute python newbie. But this little appl. is pretty nice and I want to bring it up and running on FR. First I installed python m

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Sure does :) It will be important to maintain the ability to turn off default gesture handling, if the user wants to install some other handler. Although, the 'shaking inbox' thing described by the earlier poster would probably not conflict with gestures. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Willmann
Hey, On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:35:39 +0200 "Paul-Valentin Borza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video > showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based > gestures project: > http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motio

dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello I tried to save my rootfs by wiki's way (./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2) and failed after a lot of minutes and 246MB with dfu_upload error -108 My host reported: usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:0f.2-1, CDC Ethernet Device, ba:f3:e6:14:4a:e3 What's wrong? -- mfg/

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Ticket created. https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1808 On Monday 11 August 2008 10:50:11 Daniel Benoy wrote: > Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. > > So, I tried the accelerometer test script here > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
What happenbs if you start wicd from the console? python wicd/daemon.py python wicd/gui.py ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Montour
Christian Weßel wrote: > Hello > > I tried to save my rootfs by wiki's way (./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U > good-rootfs.jffs2) and failed after a lot of minutes and 246MB with > > dfu_upload error -108 Sorry, I don't know what that error means. However anyone wanting to use "dfu-util -U" should lo

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Gestures don't work like this, I don't know the shape of the gesture. For each gesture, I have a model that I previously created. Each model competes to be recognized, and every time you make a move, the model with the highest probability is chosen. You can know the shape of the gesture only if you

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Those were some gestures that I thought were useful to use - due to lack of imagination for short gestures. If anyone can think to some short gestures, please tell me how these short gestures should look like, and I'll create them. We're not constraint to use those gestures, not at all. Paul On M

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Begin on AUX button can be implemented easily. The problem is that the framework on the Neo is really not there yet, because I would have liked it to associate some gestures with actual actions on the Neo. But I'll be working with John Lee, and Daniel to do that in the future. Also, the release tha

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread C R McClenaghan
There have now been several posts related to the successful use of GPRS on one or more of the software platforms - OM 200*.* and FSO - but not much discussion of how to multiplex voice and data calls. The FSO platform through it's mdbus/dbus interface seems to accomplish this. [1] below des

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Please wait till Thursday/Friday when I'll release the package with what you saw in the video :) The alpha release that is now for download is obsolete, as it's one month old. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Joseph Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Looks great! I've basically got the same quest

Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
Hi, are there any informations about illume and how to create/modify edj files? I want to make assassin a normal application with a normal starter and without this starter always on the bottom but those useless +++ sign and this things. But it seems there are absolutly no information about illum

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Yes, you'll be able to record, and train your own gestures; by running the Gestures app with the GUI. Of course, you get more flexibility in command line, that's how I do it, but you'll be able to do the same things in GUI mode. Gestures already use DBUS, system bus on org.openmoko.accelges (as in

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video is not released yet :) I will release a package this week. try hexdump /dev/input/event2 and hexdump /dev/input/event3 and restart your Neo :) Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The fact that is currently undocumented is all my fault. Sorry for that - I'll catch up this weekend. Till then, I have to work on the release. Yes, there are 2 daemons, one that processes the gestures and sends signals on dbus, and a listener daemon that listens for gestures and runs the actions

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The listener daemon doesn't start up automatically, only the one that recognizes gestures. For on, it just sends the recognized gesture, regardless of the context the phone is. Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wro

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 06:04:59PM +0200, Rorschach wrote: > Hi, > are there any informations about illume and how to create/modify edj files? I > want to make assassin a normal application with a normal starter and without > this starter always on the bottom but those useless +++ sign and this t

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Daniel, As you know, I had problems with gestures.projects.openmoko.org and moved to http://accelges.googlecode.com Should I erase the project from gestures.projects.openmoko.org, or should I move back to *.projects and erase the one from googlecode. The bitbake is here http://code.google.com/p/

Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:20PM +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates > over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the > exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed? > > Norbert > > > ___

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Tick Chen
Hi Rorschach, It's a category of desktop file. "Bar" Please change the desktop file of assassin like this. --- /usr/share/applications/assassin.desktopThu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ /usr/share/applications/assassin.desktop.newMon Aug 11 09:24:56 2008 @@ -9,4 +9,4 @@ Icon=assassin Termi

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 17:58 +0200 schrieb Rorschach: > What happenbs if you start wicd from the console? > > python wicd/daemon.py [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# python /opt/wicd/daemon.py/opt/wicd wicd daemon: pid 1894 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# lono wireless extensio

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Ilja O.
I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 "Your item has been shipped" message @ Jul 28 And received it today (11 Aug). That's in Europe. Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmok

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Steven **
I did try this. It doesn't help. I added little scripts to /etc/apm/suspend.d and /etc/apm/resume.d. Unless there's someplace else those should be. I did find that slowing the SD clock (per ticket #1743 about the Intenso SD card issue) had a positive effect. Kinda. See http://docs.openmoko.org/

Re: dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
I had a look at the ticket and I searched for a button to add information to it, sadly not found. I hope, that someone of the dfu_util developer will read here too. Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 09:28 -0700 schrieb Mike Montour: > Christian Weßel wrote: > > Hello > > > > I tried to save my rootfs by

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 > "Your item has been shipped" message @ Jul 28 > And received it today (11 Aug). > > That's in Europe. > Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. > > > I got mine too. About the same time frame

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