Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: NYT: Altered iPhones Freeze Up

2007-09-30 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Heh I still have the back half of my original 128K Mac some where. I swapped it out for a new back when I upgraded it to a Mac Plus. I loved the foot long screwdriver they sent to open the case. On 9/30/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On a note about what Jeff said about Apple's he

Re: [CGUYS] Rename the List?

2007-09-30 Thread b_s-wilk
Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> excribió: > I'm thinking of something like this: when a person is curious or has > aquestion about something they can go out in the world - to other > persons, the internet, a book, database, etc. - and acquire new > information, which would then answer their question o

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Randy
Well, there you go! Wonder about cost, naturally. So any chance of this ever coming to the PC world, where I am currently mired? Randall - Original Message - From: "b_s-wilk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Ge

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread b_s-wilk
Backup device will arrive in a few weeks - http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as pos

Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: NYT: Altered iPhones Freeze Up

2007-09-30 Thread Jeff Wright
> Apple fussed for a while and then succumbed to the > inevitable. Doesn't seem like they learned all that much. New platforms. Same old tricks. > The main difference between MS and Apple customers is that Apple > customers are a heck of a lot smarter. Be brave Thomas and we'll be brave for yo

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
This lady might benefit from a resource like SeniorNet. She might find a peer group. She'll learn things, maybe completely new things that will develop new interests for her to pursue. Who knows.. soon after Sue gets the PC set up the lady may go online, order a Mac, pull it out of the box

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread mike
Definately, heaven forbid she learns to use email well and some well intentioned idiot sends her a link to a malware site taking her system down. The slight if at all aggravation of the teacher having to learn mac os a little would be easily offset by the coming problems she could face. But then I

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
and probably easier for you too since you wouldn't be there pushing her and hand-holding.. Maybe you would both have time to get a new hobby. cb On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Mason Miller wrote: This would all be easier, not for you, but for her, on a Mac. Mason Sent from my iPhone via S

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread mike
You can't confuse her with email/browser if she's never done it. If she does it from the start it would be simplier, less to mess with. It would also save time if her computer ever goes down, all her stuff is online and you wouldn't have to explain to her how it's all gone or how to back up. With

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Mason Miller
This would all be easier, not for you, but for her, on a Mac. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sue Cubic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her doctor did

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Sue Cubic
At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her doctor did not prescribe an important new treatment because keeping up with medical advances was too much trouble? You have a fiduciary responsibility to make the best selection for her

Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: NYT: Altered iPhones Freeze Up

2007-09-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
>On a note about what Jeff said about Apple's heavy handedness, on a recent >macbreak, full of mac zealots no less, Leo and Merlin both agreed that if >Apple had the market share MS has they would be worse then MS is about >exploiting it. Back in the early days of Macs Apple decreed that the case

Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: NYT: Altered iPhones Freeze Up

2007-09-30 Thread mike
The Jesus phone lives again. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone/unbricked-iphones-now-fully-working-calls-included-305253.php Giz reporting iphones fully working after updates. I wonder if this will end up being some cat and mouse game like so many other drm related issues. On a note about what

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Jeff Wright
Of course. Have the backup job write to an external drive or just manually burn a CD or DVD once per week/month. > -Original Message- > But don't you really need to back up to a separate device or drive, in > case > the entire hard drive becomes corrupted, etc.?

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Randy
Think the goal should be to make the experience of using a computer, at least for the average or below average user, as much like the experience of driving a new or late model, good-shape car as possible. My overall impression is that those designing hardware and software, except maybe for Ap

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
You took wrong Mark. I'm a veteran and I know the VA system. Am I to guess you're somehow affiliated with the VA and took exception? I didn't say one couldn't get good care at a VA. I said, given a choice I'd prefer a non-gov't run hospital, except depending on diagnosis. Lots of people se

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Paul Meyer
Well, I understand that battery technology (in a UPS) is problematic on a variety of fronts (weight, reliability, etc) but apparently necessary (for some people) until the circuitry, power supplies and hard drives in PC's become more robust. The internect connection configuration in OSX is absol

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Randy
Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the software, why not

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Randy
But don't you really need to back up to a separate device or drive, in case the entire hard drive becomes corrupted, etc.? Randall - Original Message - From: "Jeff Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extensi

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Paul Meyer
My appreciation of the value of the MacMini would be radically different if I had bought any of the extra services Apple tried to sell (quite aggresively too, btw). I don't advocate integrate the UPS in a PC, but the PC sales guys (like the Dell reps my in-laws encountered) will pile a dozen opt

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-30 Thread Rob
"...no nothing..."? I take it you mean KNOW nothing? :) On Sunday 30 September 2007 10:57, Mark Corrigan wrote: > On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote: > > Any except the gov't hospital. > > What government hospital are you talking about? I take it that you > are not a veteran

Re: [CGUYS] Rename the List?

2007-09-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
This was a fad some years ago called "neural networks" and the attempto get past binary logic was called "fuzzy logic." I think some researchers are still flogging away at this. >I'm thinking of something like this: when a person is curious or has a >question about something they can go out in

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
>And you're going to be right there with her to teach her to use this? Or >maybe kick in the extra $500 over the cost of a PC? The price of crappy PCs has crept up as companies like Dell have found that they can't be profitable at their former prices. And I was not suggesting you get the cheap

[CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
>As much as I like my macmini, computers won't be completely tinker free >until they come with >1)UPS >2) Internet connection >3)Automated backup. >#1 is essential if you live with iffy power, >(which means me even though this is southern Montgomery Co) > #3 you need everywhere >I guess everyone do

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-30 Thread Mark Corrigan
On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote: Any except the gov't hospital. What government hospital are you talking about? I take it that you are not a veteran and no nothing about the VA. The VA is the biggest hospital system in the world and provides very good care for th

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Sue Cubic
At 02:39 PM 09/29/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote This is an application where Windows is inappropriate. She needs a computer to use, not a computer that provides endless opportunities for tinkering. Get her a computer that is attractive, easy to use, that works right out of the box and is not pr

Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: NYT: Altered iPhones Freeze Up

2007-09-30 Thread Jeff Wright
I thought transparent BS was genetically impossible, but again, you prove me wrong. I didn't know there was a iGeneSplice app out. You've been tinkering, haven't you? Were this **cough** another company being so heavy-handed and totalitarian with its customers, your words would have been much, m

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Jeff Wright
Vista has automated backups. I don't use it because I don't like how it chooses the files to back up (file type based rather than folder based), but it's there. > -Original Message- > Yep, right on! - automated backup - why not?!

Re: [CGUYS] Anti-virus

2007-09-30 Thread b_s-wilk
You must be talking about Microsoft and technology, not Apple's technology. Last week I had to convert a drawing from Aldus FreeHand 2 [1988] to Adobe PDF. I found the _floppy_disk_ that contained FH2, put the software on my 10-year-old PowerMac, then transferred it to my newer Mac on our netwo

Re: [CGUYS] Anti-virus

2007-09-30 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 7:11 PM -0400 9/27/07, Steve Rigby wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Paul Meyer wrote: Rather than being "consumer driven" changes in software have always been largely done over the objections of the user base. IMHO (List, am I right?) I think you are pretty much right. And yet, a

[CGUYS] Mac Firmware Patches

2007-09-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Those who have had some problems running Windows on Intel Macs may want to try again after installing the firmware patches that Apple released yesterday. Long list of links at macintouch.com or just run software updater.