On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 09:42:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> IDE causes a bit of a performance hit, I don't think we're talking high
> speed file access here though... cheap is the objective.
You'd be suprised at the performance hit. I had 2 drives/channel and
suffered from really bad perf
Yes, I have no NFS, I have no NFS today... ;-)
Ah, the joys of living under an IT department. I hear tales from my son
all the time. He works in development and has to defeat a lot of IT stuff
that keeps finding its way onto his machine every time he docks it at
work. (Better him than me ;-)
My
Paul Martin wrote:
> Seems like it's documented behaviour for bash. Pity I had to file a bug
> to find this out.
RGHHH!
I'm cc-ing -devel to let others read about this ugly ugly thing. And
going to fix rpm's debian/rules file to use [:lower:] instead of [a-z].
Sigh.
> Looks like it would
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Description: HB is an information system designed used to build web
sites dynamically. It is intended to be run by the web server, parsing
documents whenever they are requested (usually via HTTP). Using HB you
can create dynamic web content in a very easy (yet very
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 08:02:30PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:39:01PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I notice there are these new-fangled motherboards with 2*ATA-100 and
> > 2*ATA-33 ports. With 75GB disks, that baby should give us 600GB of raw
> > disk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:39:01PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I notice there are these new-fangled motherboards with 2*ATA-100 and
> 2*ATA-33 ports. With 75GB disks, that baby should give us 600GB of raw
> disk space (8 drives) at around $2K US. Sounds attractive, considering
> that
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 02:03:00PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> It hasn't stopped its being installed on my system or on a number of others.
> I found the conflict was necessary to force the removal of libpgsql2, but
> it does indeed provide libpgsql2 to other packages that depend on that.
>
> I
hi dima
think different motherboard uses different onboard ide controllers...
( dont know which one is which...
- promise card i was referring to is the Proise ata/100 series
not the onboard controllers
yes... most 1U chassis comes with one 1 power supply...
( no physcial room in the back...
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 04:59:13PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> If programs won't run at all (as in the case of MMX and 3DNow!)
> then we should compile different kernels. If they just don't run as fast
> then we can let the users compile their own kernels.
I don't understand why MMX or 3dnow
Hi,
I just uploaded a set of packages of the just released libtool 1.4.
>From what I understand, it fixes some of the release critical libtool
bugs. If anyone has some time, can you please help me confirm this?
BTW, I uploaded the packages (1.4-0) for the experimental distribution.
Assuming all
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 03:23:03PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
...
> your options for 6 or 8 disks are the promise cards
> and/or 3ware ...
Well, unfortunately purchasing is a bit strange around here...
That mobo (with HPT-370 controller) is the one we can buy
_easily_ -- from the university's techsto
> --pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Apr_27_01:25:02_2001-1
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
> At Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:14:01 -0500 (CDT),
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
> >
> > > Yes there is:
> > >
> > > [12:36:41 /tmp]$ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/ava
hi ya...
good that these huge systems exists...
att is working on a 12disk ide system...
your options for 6 or 8 disks are the promise cards
and/or 3ware ...
has anybody measured the +12V current needed when all
8 drives start up...at the same time... hummm
we have a 1u chassis ( C2300 )
Dale Scheetz wrote:
Now, when I bring up and xterm or a bash window, I get no cursor and no
keystrokes appear in the window. I'm also having very flaky problems with
I have had problems with this as well. I tracked it down to
NFS/amd not working properly. This has been a problem on my
laptop for
dear corelinux/debian users,
the debian packages for corelinux0.4.32 have been created and uploaded for
sid/unstable distribution
add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://corelinux.sourceforge.net/debian ./
deb-src http://corelinux.sourceforge.net/debian ./
right now only libcorelinu
> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Herbert> Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This is misleading. The kernel-image-*-arch packages are much
>> simpler because they do not depend both on a kernel source
>> package and on a module deb package. Also, n
On 01-04-26 Jérôme Marant wrote:
> However, I found a simple HTML browser called Encompass
> that takes far less memory than those I mentioned. Of course,
> it does not have all the feature these browsers can offer
> but it does handle HTML pretty well. I've build debs you can
> find ther
Previously Herbert Xu wrote:
> There is a file called /proc/cpuinfo you know.
And /proc/hardware on some architectures.
Wichert.
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Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I notice there are these new-fangled motherboards with 2*ATA-100 and
> 2*ATA-33 ports. With 75GB disks, that baby should give us 600GB of raw
> disk space (8 drives) at around $2K US. Sounds attractive, considering
> that el-cheapo RAID boxes of similar capaci
Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is misleading. The kernel-image-*-arch packages are much simpler
> because they do not depend both on a kernel source package and on a
> module deb package. Also, note that this maximizes work for the
How does that make it more complex?
> issues.
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Confusion: Adding 8 (or whatever it is) variations of each kernel
> version is going to make it harder to select the appropriate one. There
> is some fraction of the target audience who won't know what kind of CPU
> they have, and we don't want to have
On Apr 26, Alejo Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was only asking if release applications from debian
>are allowed to have dlopen() (even if it isn't used
>on most situations)
The patched mutt 1.2.x I maintain for debian does exactly this to
support SSL and kerberos.
--
ciao,
Marco
I finally get my X system back into working order, find out I have memory
problems with my kernel and upgraded to the 2.2.19.
Now, when I bring up and xterm or a bash window, I get no cursor and no
keystrokes appear in the window. I'm also having very flaky problems with
mozilla not being able to
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 10:13:01PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> So a 386 compiled kernel can still support MMX, 3DNow! and MTRR? In that
> case we only need a 386 kernel, but it might be nice to have a PentiumMMX
> compiled kernel as well (that should give better performance on all brands of
>
Hi. I posted the following message to debian-devel last night and
have received agreement with the summary and apparently (it was not
explicitly stated) with the committee as a forum from Craig and
Herbert. Thus I'd like to ask you to look at this issue. There has
been some other discussion in t
On Thursday 26 April 2001 18:19, David Schleef wrote:
> > For 3DNow! we should have a kernel which supports it.
>
> All kernels, even if compiled with CONFIG_M386, will support
> MMX and 3DNow. It just won't use memcpy_mmx() or memcpy_3d()
> as the implementation of memcpy(). The important part i
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
>
> > Yes there is:
> >
> > [12:36:41 /tmp]$ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/available
> > -rw-r--r--1 root root 2547713 Apr 25 00:46
> > /var/lib/dpkg/available
> > [12:39:36 /tmp]$ od -cj 2547700 /var/lib/dpkg/available
> > 11557764 c e 9 1 8
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:28:51PM +0200, Ulrich Wiederhold wrote:
> If I try a ./configure or a "make xconfig" with a new Kernel, I get this
> error-msg:
> /lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> /lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Uh, why do you have lib
Hi. I posted the following message to debian-devel last night and
have received agreement with the summary and apparently (it was not
explicitly stated) with the committee as a forum from Craig and
Herbert. Thus I'd like to ask you to look at this issue. There has
been some other discussion in t
> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Herbert> BTW, this is how the kernel images are organised on
Herbert> alpha/i386/sparc.
This is misleading. The kernel-image-*-arch packages are much simpler
because they do not depend both on a kernel source package and on a
mod
Hi all
I notice there are these new-fangled motherboards with 2*ATA-100 and
2*ATA-33 ports. With 75GB disks, that baby should give us 600GB of raw
disk space (8 drives) at around $2K US. Sounds attractive, considering
that el-cheapo RAID boxes of similar capacity are around $10K.
Anyone runs [Deb
> That's a good hack, but I still think update-rc.d should support it
> directly. I was surprised to see portmap restarted after an ugrade when
> I'd previously done "update-rc.d -f remove portmap".
That was my feeling, that most users would probably wonder why it was
started again.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> At the very least, this should be documented in update-rc.d(8).
Actually, now that I look again, it is pretty well documented. never
mind.
Jason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> It is possible to disable a service simply by removing links in
> /etc/rc*.d . So long as you leave at least one (/etc/rc0.d/K*package
> would seem to be a good candidate), update-rc.d when called by packages
> on upgrade is a no-op. Something like:
>
> rm /etc/rc*.d/
Salut Stephane
Stephane Leclerc schrieb:
> I've see that you uploaded 13 Apr 2001 a fix version of afbackup.
> Do you know the status of this package?. I've sent an email to the official
> maintainer and never got an answer.
I don't use afbackup myself, and from what I remember of the
changelog
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> What's wrong with adding an exit 0 to the init.d files?
dpkg will ask me whether I want to keep my changes each time I upgrade,
rather than just overwriting the script.
Jason
Good summary, Sam. I'd like to add a couple extra points:
On 25-Apr-01, 19:30 (CDT), Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Should build custom: Some argumed that users should build a custom
> kernel and the distribution was doing them a disservice by trying to
> provide kernels that met their
Julian Gilbey wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:35:51PM -0300, Alejo Sanchez wrote:
> > well, your version would do it the dlopen() way.
> > actually we were going to ask if there was a
> > restriction on depending on dlopen(), as it could
> > be possible on some non-dynamic plataforms.
> > (n
On 26-Apr-01, 06:52 (CDT), "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 25 Apr 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
>> Second, I can't keep track of who "upstream" is for all the Debian
>> packages.
>>
>
> Why not? It's in the copyright file of each package. If it isn't--that's
> a bug.
>
>
At Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:14:01 -0500 (CDT),
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
>
> > Yes there is:
> >
> > [12:36:41 /tmp]$ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/available
> > -rw-r--r--1 root root 2547713 Apr 25 00:46
> > /var/lib/dpkg/available
> > [12:39:36 /tmp]$
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 04:15:15PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thursday 26 April 2001 09:05, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > _Afair_ it is necessary to run a k6 (or athlon) "optimized" kernel to
> > use 3DNow! in applications like xmms or lame. This probably applys to
> > ISSE, MTTR and MMX, too.
Today I received several e-mails that were near duplicates of
interactions with the BTS last sunday, both from me and from others.
The originals had headers like this (I've trimmed the extraneous stuff):
Received: from gecko by master.debian.org with local (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian))
id 14rP8Z
Hi,
I was looking for a lightweight web browser and I try tried
all of those I could get in debs. Unfortunately, neither
mozilla nor galeon nor konqueror are satisfactory in terms
of memory usage (says less than 10 megs of RAM).
However, I found a simple HTML browser called Encompass
On Thursday 26 April 2001 08:20, Craig Sanders wrote:
> the point at issue is whether there should be dozens of kernel-image and
> kernel-headers packages when one is enough to do the job.
I'm just a humble Linux-user, but still compile my own kernel. However, I do
this because I'm also a control
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
> Yes there is:
>
> [12:36:41 /tmp]$ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/available
> -rw-r--r--1 root root 2547713 Apr 25 00:46
> /var/lib/dpkg/available
> [12:39:36 /tmp]$ od -cj 2547700 /var/lib/dpkg/available
> 11557764 c e 9 1 8 0 f a 4
On 04/26/2001 09:59:13 AM Russell Coker wrote:
>> On Thursday 26 April 2001 16:38, Ilya Martynov wrote:
>> > RC> There is no need for a MTTR specific kernel. MTTR is not really
>> > RC> needed as there is no software written which is unable to run
>> > RC> without it. Our goal here should be co
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RC> I've played many AVI files without MTRR support. It will still
RC> work, just a bit slower.
I think it depends on configuration. On my home PC aviplay is almost
unusable without MTRR. It looks like slide show instead movie. aviplay
docs mention that some people reported up to x3 increase in
On Thursday 26 April 2001 16:38, Ilya Martynov wrote:
> RC> There is no need for a MTTR specific kernel. MTTR is not really
> RC> needed as there is no software written which is unable to run
> RC> without it. Our goal here should be compatibility with software.
> RC> MTTR can increase speed sign
RC> There is no need for a MTTR specific kernel. MTTR is not really
RC> needed as there is no software written which is unable to run
RC> without it. Our goal here should be compatibility with software.
RC> MTTR can increase speed significantly in certain situations, but
RC> there's lots of othe
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:35:51PM -0300, Alejo Sanchez wrote:
> well, your version would do it the dlopen() way.
> actually we were going to ask if there was a
> restriction on depending on dlopen(), as it could
> be possible on some non-dynamic plataforms.
> (no shared libraries, no dl library)
On Thursday 26 April 2001 09:05, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > performance: By having images optimized for each processor on i386
> > users should see better performance. I don't believe performance
> > numbers were quantified in the discussion but quantifying performance
> > is probably important to
=?iso-8859-1?q?J=E9r=F4me?= Marant wrote:
[copied to the list for comments]
>> Can you find out why it wants to remove libpgsql2.1. postgresql-client nee
>ds
>> this.
>
> Here is the problem:
>
>libpgsql2.1 provides libpgsql2
>
>and conflicts with libpgsql2
It has
On 25 Apr 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> There's a good reason.
>
> First, it is the sort of thing that might well be correctly solved in
> the Debian package and not upstream; that is, the best solution might
> be to provide a Debian upgrade path rather than a Gnome upgrade path.
>
I agree.
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:43:56PM -0400, Jason Lunz wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> I've thought for a while that perhaps update-rc.d should have a
>> --persistant option that would do the same thing as "remove" AND add a
>> K symlink in /etc/rc9.d/ -- a valid but unused runlevel -- so that
>>
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:52:39PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote:
> Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:53:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> > > + gdb uploaded 250 days ago, out of date by 240 days! doesn't
> > > build on sparc, see 86882
>
> > i'd l
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> >
> > > Previously Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > > > Then you break things for no good reason. These "module builders" you
> > > > speak of should be using the same hea
Domenico Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:53:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > + gdb uploaded 250 days ago, out of date by 240 days! doesn't
> > build on sparc, see 86882
> i'd like to adopt this, i'll mail to the maintainer.
Do you have the resources to try
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:53:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Hello world,
>
ciao
>
> + gdb uploaded 250 days ago, out of date by 240 days!
> doesn't build on sparc, see 86882
>
i'd like to adopt this, i'll mail to the maintainer.
-[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok
--[ http://fili
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:28:51PM +0200 , Ulrich Wiederhold wrote:
> Hello,
> I upgraded to unstable and now, my libc6 seems to be borken.
works fine here. it wasn't upgraded in quite a while
> If I try a ./configure or a "make xconfig" with a new Kernel, I get this
> error-msg:
> /lib/libc.so.6
Hello,
I upgraded to unstable and now, my libc6 seems to be borken.
If I try a ./configure or a "make xconfig" with a new Kernel, I get this
error-msg:
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
If I try a "make menuconfig",
(I filed this as bug#95252, but used X-Debian-CC instead of X-Debbugs-CC.
Strange... I remember it being X-Debian-CC once.)
darj - arj archive unpacking tool
I've started writing a free version of unarj. I have unarj installed
in case I come across .arj files on the net or on old floppies, and
Hello all,
I plan to package vcdimager.
From the README :
This is GNU VCDImager, a VideoCD image mastering tool.
This package contains GNU VCDRip, a VideoCD ripping tool, for ripping
mpeg streams from VideoCD images and showing VideoCD information about
the image.
There already exists cd
Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Is there a final new line?
>>
> Yes there is:
> [12:36:41 /tmp]$ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/available
> -rw-r--r--1 root root 2547713 Apr 25 00:46
> /var/lib/dpkg/available
> [12:39:36 /tmp]$ od -cj 2547700 /var/lib/dpkg/available
> 11557764
Jason Lunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is dpkg bug #67095. Is there any progress on this? I would love it
> if I didn't have to re-disable nfs and portmap each time I upgraded
> their packages.
What's wrong with adding an exit 0 to the init.d files?
--
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http:/
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:58:10PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:30:31PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > [...]
>
> i think you've done a good job of summarising the issues.
I agree as well.
--
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )
Email: Herbert Xu ~{P
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:27:18PM -0400, Josh Huber wrote:
>
> Yes, which is different -- we have 4 kernel-image packages for
I'm open to suggestions as to which of the images can be dropped.
As far as I can see, there are two arguments against the present organisation
on i386:
1. The kernel i
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 05:49:24PM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 11:57:50PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > Doesn't the user have to belong to the relevant group anyway?
> > We already control access to things like floppy drives, sound
> > cards etc through groups, so cd burni
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
>
> > Package: ng-cjk
> > Priority: optional
> > Section: editors
> > Installed-Size: 164
> > Maintainer: Yasuhiro Take <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Architecture: i386
> > Source: ng
> > Version: 1.4.3.1-1
> > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.1), libncurses5, ng-common
>
Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see three options. We can have the modules built out of the main
> source package that also produces the architecture: all package
> containing the tarball for end users to use with kernel-package.
> Alternatively, we can have a separate modules source p
Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've said before that over 2000 kernel configuration options exist and
Most of which can be decided at runtime once you start using initrd.
--
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )
Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Home
Hello,
I upgraded to unstable and now, my libc6 seems to be borken.
If I try a ./configure or a "make xconfig" with a new Kernel, I get this
error-msg:
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
If I try a "make menuconfig",
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 04:15:24PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:56:58PM -0500, Rob Browning wrote:
>> Just in case anyone else was confused, I'm still in favor of having at
>> least *one* precompiled kernel per-architecture, so no one *has* to
>> compile a kernel,
>
>i th
Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Summary: Herbert has started building 8 different flavors of
> kernel-image for i386. These flavors correspond to CPU type; for
> example there is an appropriate kernel for people with 386 machines to
> run and an appropriate kernel for people with At
Thank you very much for checking facts.
(I think if there is more to be discussed on this copyright, it should
be moved to debian-legal list.)
With your statement as presented, I had to concur with Branden. But I
actually think this can be made into DFSG free package if you present
copyright issu
zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The package maintainer is a volunteer, and he knows you are also a
> developer. That said, why don't you report the bug directly to the
> upstream, instead of insisting on this (bureaucratic) procedure of
> reporting bugs to debian then waiting that debian dev
You guys are getting more and more bureaucratic. That's sad.
The package maintainer is a volunteer, and he knows you are also a
developer. That said, why don't you report the bug directly to the
upstream, instead of insisting on this (bureaucratic) procedure of
reporting bugs to debian then waiti
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 02:18:30AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> I could disagree pretty heavily by pointing that this would be shit as
> it would add an hour to the install. Why not just provide a stock i386
> kernel and let people compile it later on? Some people need to patch
> in mm/swap patches
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:56:58PM -0500, Rob Browning wrote:
> Just in case anyone else was confused, I'm still in favor of having at
> least *one* precompiled kernel per-architecture, so no one *has* to
> compile a kernel,
i think everyone is in favour of that.
the issue is whether it's appropr
On 25 Apr 2001 21:56:58 -0500, Rob Browning wrote:
>
> Just in case anyone else was confused, I'm still in favor of having at
> least *one* precompiled kernel per-architecture, so no one *has* to
> compile a kernel, but if they want a customized kernel, then,
> presuming the idea has merit, they wo
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 02:52:11PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > "Martin" == Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Martin> Since the base system comprises our most important
> Martin> packages, virtually all of which are installed on any
> Martin> Debian system, your help
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