Re: forwarding bugs to other packages

2004-10-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:28:41PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Joel> It would also presumably allow you to add a filter such as > Joel> "don't display any bug with a dependa

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-20 Thread Joel Baker
ss problem description). If not, something like this could have *very* far-reaching impacts; if one turned on checksumming (available for UDP packets natively, or one could do it in the protocol) to avoid bitrot, this opens up a huge path t

Re: forwarding bugs to other packages

2004-10-19 Thread Joel Baker
this up, but it does seem like it could be used to resolve a couple of different types of problem. (It also allows yet another way to avoid BTS tenn

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:50:48PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > The 'slander', if such it is (and I, obviously, don't consider it such) > > is against the named set of churches, and those that follow their d

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
man - Linux gets Lovelace!) Debian Mach, of course, must be reserved for a FreeBSD-on-Mach port :) -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 09:48:31AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Russell Coker wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:15, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Anglican church is, in fact, the most likely among anyone except > > >

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 05:21:23AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > &g

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:52:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Baker) wrote on 17.12.03 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Since you have no idea *what* civil rights I'm claiming are denied, your > > claim that I'm just imagining this d

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
ecause it wasn't considered to be worth having the argument over, and we were still using quite a lot of GNU stuff, so figured it wasn't unreasonable to give them due credit (and that if RMS objected, saying it wasn't "the Gnu system

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:30:57PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:15, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Anglican church is, in fact, the most likely among anyone except the > > UUs to (eventually) decide that it's OK, for the same reaso

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the > > stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian, Bapt

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:25:11PM -0800, Nunya wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or > > beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to > >

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
y person who supports, directly or indirectly, any sect of Christianity which I am aware of, all of whom advocate divine justice, and most of which also advocate the continued denial of civil rights as well. It's certainly easy to *feel* like folks might

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
t for membership in a given group is not the same as making assertions about that group (for example, it applies equally to entities who are *not* part of that group, but exhibit the same behavior). -- Joel Baker <[EMA

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 01:22:07PM -0800, Nunya wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > the fact that "the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly not a > > > Christian demon" and here's you're saying "y

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
ves a huge amount of (very valuble) context to the history behind some major plot points in the main series. Like why Roke has the strictures it does about the gender of students, and what they're allowed to do. Oh, and it wraps up some loose ends, too. Like the Master Summoner. And no, those a

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:21:24AM -0800, Nunya wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > "The Christian concept of a demon is a corruption (as it were) of the Greek > > concept of daemon" > > Basically, no argume

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
ous Harry Potter reference, but "fear of a > name increases fear for the thing itself." ;-p > > IOW, lighten up, people. Otherwise, we'll be referring to Debian > GNU/That Which Shall Not Be Named... Hey, we already covered L

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
ough of the right letters to do the first-letter trick, at least once per. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,''

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:53:18AM -0800, Nunya wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:31:17AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > Somehow, I don't think Branden will mind being told his dislike of > > "parochial religious fundamentalists" is showing. I suspect he&

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
in general, seem to vary widely. > Face it dude, you're hatred and unfairness towards one specific group of > people is shining through. I don't think this project is so enlightened > after all. Somehow, I don't think Branden will min

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:10:24AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather > > like the notion of

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which are less > > loaded to random fu

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-16 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:59:46AM +, Will Newton wrote: > On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 01:44, Joel Baker wrote: > > > Appropriate? As much as any of the Valar would be; he's certainly on the > > list. But since we know of at least 4 active ports, one name isn't goin

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-16 Thread Joel Baker
of which is correct :-) > > Really? What makes a pronounciation incorrect? The pronounciation of > the project initiator, the context, etc... ? I'd have to say that the person who made up the term gets to decide how it should be pronounced. Shades of the Linux pron

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-16 Thread Joel Baker
accurate description than the general view of it among Christians. It isn't precisely sympathetic to the fallen, but it ascribes the flaw of of overwhelming pride to both sides... -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:40:11PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > >> Branden's second proposal of using something from Pratchett did have a > >>

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:09:07PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:19:10PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > Having cheated and grabbed an online resource for it from Google, the > > following possibilities show up (my apologies for the lack of accent

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > > > Of course, I don't really think we should merit religious nonsense with > > the honour of giving name to the products of Debian labour any

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
That's not the way it works; "Sid" is not "Sarge+1" but the never-to-be- > released development version. Think of it as "version infinity". "And Beyond!" Sorry, it had to be said. I'll go back in my hole now. -- Joel Baker &l

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:57:45AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:02:54 -0700, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Oddly enough, most FreeBSD sysadmins don't appear to mind doing things much > >more invasive than a dist-upgrade, every six m

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
ybe Debian GNU/Pesetas, Debian GNU/Zloty, and Debian GNU/Yen?! All > hail capitalism! This would be quite fitting right now, since most of > the western world is celebrating capitalism's supremacy next week (of > course, some celebrate it rel

Re: Proposed change to debian release system

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
idea? (One that may take some practice to achieve, sure, and not one I expect us to hit next release, though I'd be happy to get it below the steadily expanding history of Debian - and the current RM's goals appear to be a strong step in that dire

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
gt; > In any event, for any name that doesn't raise trademark issues (and > > thus potentially jeopardize the entire project), I'd say > > the choice remains up to those who are actually doing the

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:07:15AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:19:47AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:55:30PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > > > > > > Try to coordinate? When there would have been a try to coope

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
like that. One should never name the Lady. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:55:30PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:05:39AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > Remember, these machines are, behind the archives, perhaps the most > > implicity trusted machines in the entire project. Compromise the archive

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
ce with the topic tends to indicate that the same folks who care are very likely to consider there mere *concept* of a 'daemon' to be anathema, evil, fou

Re: Complaint

2003-12-14 Thread Joel Baker
ave it for the really egregious times. So far, the entire recovery has been suprisingly *well* communicated, compared to a lot of points in Debian's history. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-13 Thread Joel Baker
[ If you're being impatient about resolving this, please see the bottom ] [ of the email for an imporant bit of information... ] [ snip ] On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:27:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:29:05AM -0700, Joel

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-12 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 07:24:29PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > I removed a lot of CC's, since this comment isn't relevant to the rest > of the discussion, really... > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:39:47PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > [snip] > > I explained that &q

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-12 Thread Joel Baker
.] On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:54:09AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.] > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:39:47PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > On December 2nd, I was contacted by Luke Mewburn, on behalf of The NetBSD > > Foundation, asking

Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-11 Thread Joel Baker
ndation, and it's representatives, have been both cordial and productive, to date, and that I feel their request is born largely of having seen an example which they preferred, rather than any antipathy towards the Debian project

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-12-02 Thread Joel Baker
ot like: clone XX severity -1 important retitle -1 Causes massive failures on package foo assign -1 bar (The key trick is the cloning; it keeps the bugs tied in a way that makes the relationship clear, keeps the discussion history available, and still allows the bugs to be seen accu

Re: kernel package names (was Re: Package libc6-dev depends on linux-kernel-headers)

2003-11-07 Thread Joel Baker
ource-*' will be Arch: all, even if the package one uses to build them (the equivalent of kernel-package, also a candidate for renaming if it comes to pass) is arch-specific. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PRO

Re: search-citeseer_0.1-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2003-10-16 Thread Joel Baker
unity to say "I don't agree, here's why:" in an equally polite manner. He's been known to change his mind, when presented with suitable evidence or persuasive argument, but his job as ftpmaster is, in large part, to do exactly what he did - reject package uploa

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-14 Thread Joel Baker
ng-checklist.txt.gz; all sorts of spiffy goodness. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-14 Thread Joel Baker
do what you do want, for a very reasonable price, some of which are unlikely to ever be blocked by any local ISP you may conne

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-13 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 06:51:01PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Joel Baker writes: > > I'm going to gloss over the utter mistake of your first statement > > I am on a dialup with a "dynamic" IP number: I am allowed to borrow a > number from my ISP at need. There

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-13 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 04:26:35PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Joel Baker writes: > > I'm sorry, but your individual desire to be able to send mail from > > anywhere on the planet, claiming to be anyone on the planet... > > What makes you think I want to claim to be &

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-13 Thread Joel Baker
large number of anti-spam lists, since there is a very high correlation between having it open, and origionating large amounts of spam. Nearly 100%, in fact. If lacking a domain-authorized

Re: specifying which IP addresses can send mail for a domain

2003-10-11 Thread Joel Baker
aid, I'm betting that none of them will gain much steam until the ASRG renders a decision. So we'll just have to see what comes out of it. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: testing packages at build

2003-10-09 Thread Joel Baker
#x27;. If switching from -O2 to -O0 fixes a problem, that is almost indisputable a bug (usually in the toolchain), and there should be human intervention if for no other reason than ensuring the toolchain packages get the bug filed against them so that we can improve them. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Which packages will hold up the release?

2003-10-08 Thread Joel Baker
5) currently return > wrong result in my script. Presumably you mean other than `dpkg --compare-versions`? -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,'

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-06 Thread Joel Baker
the situation by way of providing a better answer. (I am, however, reminded that it's probably a good idea to go codify some things in the proposed mini-policy for Net

Re: Looking for a co-maintainer for adduser

2003-10-06 Thread Joel Baker
es us to consider rewriting it all, anyway...) Though getting Python to have an easier Build-Depend chain would be nice for porters, if we ever do support it as an o

Re: your mail

2003-10-06 Thread Joel Baker
aits with pthread_join() for >cancellation. But a thread waiting on pthread_cond_timedwait() doesn`t >cancel and so pthread_join() doesn`t return. Further discussion probably isn't on-topic for debian-devel, however, unless you're talking about building a Debian

Re: New glibc with NPTL in experimental

2003-10-04 Thread Joel Baker
be modified / recompiled in anyway? > > What are the benifits of one over the other? New POSIX Threads Library, or somesuch. As for benefits... try "real POSIX threading", "doesn't choke and die on large numbers of threads", and "brings Linux remotely close to m

Re: kernel-source == Linux or Hurd or ???

2003-09-24 Thread Joel Baker
> Perhaps once the Debian/*BSD have stabilized and reach a greater level > of usability, we can ask these questions again later... Join us over on debian-bsd@lists.debian.org; we're discussing many of them now (or,

Re: kernel-source == Linux or Hurd or ???

2003-09-24 Thread Joel Baker
suffice means Linux only for legacy support reasons", but I don't expect it to happen anytime soon. :) -- Joel Baker

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation

2003-08-28 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:37:12PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Joel Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > This argument would carry more weight with me if it were possible to either > > A) test the upload *completely* before making it (IE, catch all possible > > FTBFS bugs

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation

2003-08-27 Thread Joel Baker
s, either, and so the NMUs just won't happen at all. And perhaps that's fine and we should just remove the packages - but if that's the case, why are we bothering to h

Re: Patch needs Sponsor - 20 bugs left - sorted by mtime

2003-08-27 Thread Joel Baker
orts; this bug has been claimed for some time (I've been waiting on getting someone from the mips folks to get in touch about testing it on that platform, for the *other* RC bug, before uploading the fix). -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,'

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Joel Baker
easing during them; though the Debian Christmas Release would be mildly entertaining :) -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Joel Baker
unced a release target for 2.0 yet). Off to hunt some RC bugs, now... (yeah, yeah, I should have been doing this all along, but frankly, porting work took priority when there was no release goal :) -- Joe

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-20 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:16:03AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:38:10PM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > If they get hit by a bus, reassigned by their job to Outer Mongolia, or > > just plain get bored with doing it, we lose that benefit entirely

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 05:59:52PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 10:32:07AM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > * want to contribute something to a project they respect > > > > * want to help out Debian users > > > > * w

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-08 Thread Joel Baker
n exchange). At this point, however, there is very little reason for self-interest to drive such things; the amount of code available is so vast that nearly anything you want can be found, cobbled together, or otherwise made with little effort. The only real exception

Re: Getting patches into packages, thought and ideas

2003-08-07 Thread Joel Baker
s so that the netbsd-libc and netbsd-kernel-source-* packages will be free and clear* Only 10,000 files now... (hey, it *was* 15,000). -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpue2Q7xC6Kw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-08-03 Thread Joel Baker
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 08:05:01AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Joel Baker wrote: > > > Diesel locomotives are a giant diesel generator hooked up to electric > > traction motors, running through the switchbox at something like 600v > > (I haven't read the sp

Re: debconf 2005 in Vienna, Austria

2003-08-01 Thread Joel Baker
), and you'll be fine. :) There's a reason they call popping the coupling seals on that line (the fail-safe (full stop) airbrake line) completely (rather than bleeding the air off) 'dynamiting'... -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpRKx4EOtwNp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-08-01 Thread Joel Baker
the answer cache - you can look at the existing state and find out what you need to know (or, presumably, override it). -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpHUUfcNpVft.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#203498: ITP: decss -- utility for stripping CSS tags from an HTML page.

2003-07-30 Thread Joel Baker
t a 'joke', or what. (No, this isn't intended as "how to get around doing an ITP", but rather, as an alternative which assumes you can convince someone that the script is, in fact, useful enough to put into an existing package to which it might be applicable.) -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpUFz9MND4T9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: proposal: per-user temporary directories on by default?

2003-07-23 Thread Joel Baker
types or versions that don't support that, or people who actually want /tmp when they explicitly request it, even if TMPDIR=~/tmp is fine most of the time. I can't think of a better way to get admins to simply turn it off completely than to make it completely override /tmp and have n

Bug#200654: ITP: debpool -- pool-based DEB package archiver

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Baker
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-09 Severity: wishlist * Package name: debpool * Version: 0.1.0 Upstream Author: Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL: N/A License: BSD Description: pool-based DEB package archiver DebPool is a pool-based DEB package archiver de

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-30 Thread Joel Baker
at > long before NetBSD has a port to it. I also recall seeing that people > are in the process of porting both FreeBSD and NetBSD to S/390. Not to mention a (reasonably close to?) working amd64 port (recently renamed). -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpllBGNSltA2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-29 Thread Joel Baker
nux would probably be "bleeding edge above most"). Sort of like Debian's release schedule is "when it's ready", and for the same reasons. Their -current is more or less like our unstable ("It may break, but people always scream at us when it does so for a

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-23 Thread Joel Baker
t probably isn't worthy of it's own package, and having multiple MTAs (or MUAs) provide it makes little sense, really... perhaps it belongs in one of the "general utility" packages? -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpEAWccWVLSz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Joel Baker
d-kernel-*, I'll speak up: I'm trying very hard to arrange that we don't repeat the misfeatures of this particular past. This is, granted, far easier than for Linux, since there isn't really a concept of a 'separate arch repository' to be out of sync, on NetBSD. (No, t

Re: Request for Clue: i18n of fortune-esque things

2003-04-24 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:35:41AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Joel Baker wrote: > > > larger sense, is whether there is a way to have the translations available > > in some easily selectable format. > I think the i18ned fortune makes this simple. Tha

Re: Autobuilder locale setup

2003-04-24 Thread Joel Baker
on such archs, until some useful solution is found, so it probably doesn't matter all that much (won't keep it out of testing or any other such evilness, etc...) Failing that, it's on my TODO list for netbsd-libc, but rather behind a number of other things like backporting so

Re: Request for Clue: i18n of fortune-esque things

2003-04-24 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:38:32PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Joel Baker wrote: > > > What I was wondering is whether there is a way to do translations of > > the fortune data, without having to have 'fortunes-debian-hints-' > > packages.

Request for Clue: i18n of fortune-esque things

2003-04-23 Thread Joel Baker
ith it). What I was wondering is whether there is a way to do translations of the fortune data, without having to have 'fortunes-debian-hints-' packages. Granted, I probably won't be able to do much useful about translating them, myself, but I'd like to at least know if it's d

Re: Bug#150411: Release-critical Bugreport for April 4, 2003

2003-04-14 Thread Joel Baker
rimary author since well before the project existed, and I will never, ever try to package it again as long as she's the primary author... (In other words, I'm vouching to anyone who wonders that the code is enough to drive anyone seriously insane, and making it sane is no easy task.) -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgps8O3JmKrpW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: /run and read-only /etc

2003-04-14 Thread Joel Baker
a small fs on > /run (although I hope it's not in the root directory)? I think all of the BSDs currently in porting support some concept that is functionally equivalent to a ramdisk. Can't say anything useful about the Hurd. -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpzUc7Rh08Jq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ocaml compiled binaries and rpath

2003-04-14 Thread Joel Baker
ct debian-devel@lists.debian.org if you have questions > > N: about this. > > Just ignore it or add a override. Any reason not to Build-Depend: chrpath, and do 'chrpath --delete' on the result? -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpoDdFlmOlfG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: private debian pools

2002-12-08 Thread Joel Baker
is was a long way off, and not terribly high on most priority lists. -- ******* Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.lightbearer.com/lucifer/ pgpBLKkdFPmTn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-29 Thread Joel Baker
ally, is the case if it's an in-domain indirection). And, by the way, that *is* one of the uses of a CNAME. To allow things such as service names (www, ftp, etc) to point to a single IP, which might have one of those names, or something else, as it's formal name. -- *

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-27 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:05:31AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * "Joel Baker" > > | > (I can think of one trivial example--devfs makes it really easy to tell > | > which disks are available to the partitioning program. Can you describe > | > a simple method

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 08:54:29PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 05:07:51PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > >In the origional message, I merely pointed out that keeping such things > >properly encapsulated is crucial, if you EVER want to be able to run on any

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 06:37:50PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 04:26:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > >I must admit to some confusion, here. Should I take this as implying that > >there is no particular intent to try to make Debian-Installer play nicely >

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 05:58:06PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 03:20:40PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > >In practice, I find that once such assumptions creep in, it can be very, > >very hard to remove them without yanking out a lot of entrails to go with. &g

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 08:03:12AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:43:03PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > >Certainly it will have a hard time working on any of the BSDs anytime soon, > >if it relies on devfs more than trivially; they have no concept of it,

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread Joel Baker
of our cause to RULE THE WORLD! Er, wait. Did I say that in my out-loud voice? Damn. Now I'll have to feed you all to the sharks with lasers on their heads. -- *** Joel Baker System Administ

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-25 Thread Joel Baker
s on the BSDs, at least not on NetBSD and not that I *know* of on FreeBSD). -- ******* Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.lightbearer.com/lucifer/ pgpE93tR8aVd0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Antigen found =*.pif file

2002-04-20 Thread Joel Baker
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 07:41:42PM +0100, Carlos Sousa wrote: > On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:24:51 -0600 > "Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think that declaring something which complies with RFC > > 2821/2822(the core SMTP-based email RFCs) is

Re: Antigen found =*.pif file

2002-04-20 Thread Joel Baker
do more research into the standards before making such a claim next time. Though it's "free" status may be in question, the doc-rfc package remains available to Debian. Well, the split version of it does, anyway. -- *** Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.lightbearer.com/lucifer/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-09 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:20:54PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:45:56PM -0600, Joel Baker wrote: > > You know, I keep hearing this. Does this mean we should ditch the entirety > > of GCC's manuals, even old ones which weren't under the F

Re: bootstrapping build process?

2002-04-09 Thread Joel Baker
endancy for heimdal when > building kerberos4tkth from non-us/testing. > > Is this possible? > > Any comments? A pox on circular build-depends (says one of the new-port builders). The best way to resolve such things, without resorting to trying to trick the autobuilders, is to try

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-09 Thread Joel Baker
h means that for their intent, documentation != software, and thus, Debian should respect that and not publish it, since it's not software at all? -- *** Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.co

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