2008/9/13 Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:36:54 -0500 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>> I have been interpreting the AGPL, and so far have not been challenged
>> on this interpretation, that these additional costs can be transferred
>> onto
2008/9/11 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So in case this is an unreasonable burden, the GPL *and* AGPL provide
>> other ways to convey source, like CDs.
>
> How would that satisfy section 13? A C
2008/9/10 Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> 2008/9/10 Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> And I
2008/9/10 Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> And I argue that this extra cost is no greater than the cost of
>> providing the network interface that's triggering this clause in the
>> firs
2008/9/10 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What's so non-free about requiring the same network that's providing
>> the interface to somehow and vaguely facilitate the conveying of the
>> so
2008/9/8 Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080907 19:57]:
>> Hmmm, let???s see: If some company takes a hypothetical AGPL-licensed
>> variant of OpenOffice, improves it heavily and incompatibly, and it
>> becomes the new de-facto standard for office doc
y not covered by clause 13.
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:27:14 -0500 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>
>> Also, instead of providing a link to where the source can be found,
>> the embedded device's network interface could say "contact this
>> person, this group, meet
2008/9/3 Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/9/3 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>>> I don't see a conflict with the dissident test either; [...]
>>>
>>> I'm not sure it does either, although I note that both Savannah
2008/9/3 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 2008/9/2 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > "Would a licence that required me to give a copy of the source at my
>> > expense if I let
2008/9/3 Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>
>> I swear I'm not being purposely dense, but I honestly don't understand
>> how this is any different than the way Debian handles distributing
>> so
2008/9/3 Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>> > The AGPL requires access to source to occur at the time of use,
>> > which is more difficult.
>>
>> Why? You just have to put a link somewhere "
2008/9/3 Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>> You don't have to give source to every user of your software, only
>> to those who ask.
>
> The GPL allows us to provide equivalent access to the source as we do
>
2008/9/2 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Would a licence that required me to give a copy of the source at my
> expense if I let someone use the application on my laptop meet the
> DFSG?"
Why is this a question that matters for the AGPL? Are you saying that
the condition of distributing source ov
2008/9/1 Christofer C. Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The AGPLv3 requires you to re-export that code in the event that you
> modify server software using it -- even if exporting crypto is illegal
> for you.
This is not an issue. A license can't force you to do something that
contradicts a higher law.
I was looking at the TinyMCE code distributed by Debian, and I noticed
that some of the source files say "all rights reserved", while others
don't have a copyright notice at all.
They include a copy of the LGPL version 2.1 in their distribution, but
there is no clear indication of this applies to
On 30/12/2007, Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote:
> > A lot of other local laws don't define "intellectual property", but
> > people use the term anyways as if it were legally defined. It's sad
> > news to see that France does and that other laws are also
On 29/12/2007, Sylvestre Ledru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:20:14 -0600, "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Does French law define "intellectual property"? What does it define it to
> > be?
On 07/12/2007, Sylvestre Ledru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it has been
> designed for the french (and european) law which is quite specific about
> intellectual property.
Does French law define "intellectual property"? What does it define it to be?
- Jordi G. H.
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On 07/08/07, Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >But we can't modify the COPYING file in a source tarball, and that's
> >ok. Why isn't a cover text like "a
On 06/08/07, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The position statement and the vote all conflate invariant sections
> > with cover texts and dedications as if exactly the same arguments
> > ag
On 07/08/07, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11104 March 1977, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> : Why are three words enough to make thousands upon thousands
> > of words nonfree?
>
> Because it is non-free.
> Compare with a source tarball, where one coul
On 06/08/07, Evan Prodromou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-08 at 08:58 -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> > Can I get an explanation of why Debian considers a GFDL manual with
> > cover texts non-free?
>
> http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Posi
Can I get an explanation of why Debian considers a GFDL manual with
cover texts non-free?
For fuck's sakes... what's the big deal with a couple of unmodifiable sentences?
- Jordi G. H.
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On 20/07/07, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ATATIAAWBI, bla, bla, ...
WTFOMGBTWBBQ?
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