Re: Java and Debian

2007-01-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 27 January 2007 10:58, Danesh Daroui wrote: > Hi all, > > I have tried to install JDK5 on debian and it installed without > problem by running: > > apt-get install sun-java5-jdk > > which is version 1.5.0_08 > > but when I try to install java runtime using > > apt-get install sun-java5-

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Piotr Dziubinski
Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. So I think that debian should no longer use firefox as a name for iceweasel package! I will give you an example: You are typing: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade and after that you realize that you have no longe

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Please quit top posting. On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 04:52:29PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. > So I think that debian should no longer use firefox as a name for iceweasel > package! > Except that the release managers and

[OT] Nvidia 9746 driver

2007-01-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, The upward pressure continues: Nvidia's 9746 driver released December 21, 2006 no longer supports my MX440 + MX4000 cards You are being driven to get boards with PCI Express slots and buy faster videocards. I found the FX5200 is still supported, which is fanless and PCI, but costs $60.-

Re: VMware?

2007-01-27 Thread Attila Horvath
Did you use it w/ Debian or just generically. VMware's website doesn't list Debian as a supported disto?!?! Thx Attila On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:38:50 -0500 From: Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re

Java and Debian

2007-01-27 Thread Danesh Daroui
Hi all, I have tried to install JDK5 on debian and it installed without problem by running: apt-get install sun-java5-jdk which is version 1.5.0_08 but when I try to install java runtime using apt-get install sun-java5-jre however it is installed ok, but the version is 1.4 how can I install

Re: VMware?

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:46:04AM -0500, Attila Horvath wrote: > Did you use it w/ Debian or just generically. > > VMware's website doesn't list Debian as a supported disto?!?! > Yes. VMWare on Debian host with Debian, RH and Win2K guests. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://peop

Re: VMware?

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:28:46AM -0500, Stephen R Laniel wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:38:50AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > I have used VMWare some years ago and it is quite good. However, I tend > > to prefer Qemu for most workstation-related things. YMMV. > > Just curious why.

Re: probs installing g++ on unstable

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:35:47PM +, michael wrote: > > Please excuse my ignorance but I was under the impression that aptitude > and apt did the same thing, so how would using aptitude solve my problem > (and presumably it would be possible to solve it using apt-get in a > similar manner...)

Re: probs installing g++ on unstable

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:45:55PM +, michael wrote: > > today! > > ~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libc6 > Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org unstable/main Packages > Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org unstable/main Release > Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages > Hit h

Re: VMware?

2007-01-27 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:38:50AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I have used VMWare some years ago and it is quite good. However, I tend > to prefer Qemu for most workstation-related things. YMMV. Just curious why. In my experience, qemu is slw. -- Stephen R. Laniel [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: VMware?

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:19:09AM -0500, Attila Horvath wrote: > All > > Have read some very good things about VMware - particularly it's ability to > support Linux distros. I notice Debian has VMware only as an experimental > package. > > Has anyone any opinions/experiences you can share re:

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 27 January 2007 09:55, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. > > Command I have used: > apt-get install firefox > > NOT > apt-get install iceweasel > > I knew exactly what I was doing, because my friend told me that there > will be no longer fi

VMware?

2007-01-27 Thread Attila Horvath
All Have read some very good things about VMware - particularly it's ability to support Linux distros. I notice Debian has VMware only as an experimental package. Has anyone any opinions/experiences you can share re: VMware? Thx Attila -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: probs installing g++ on unstable

2007-01-27 Thread michael
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 09:45 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:21:52PM +, michael wrote: > > I have an unstable system on which I'm trying to install g++ but I've > > been getting the below dependency problem for about a month. Could > > somebody highlight whether thi

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. > There is an unofficial Sarge release for amd64. I use it on a couple of servers and many Debian users the unofficial Sarge with no problems. > Command I have used: > apt-g

Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box....

2007-01-27 Thread Michael Fothergill
> >On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:20:48AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > Dear Debianists, > > > > > > I have now installed Etch AMD64 RC1 successfully on my new AMD64 box. > > > The only problem I have is that the internet connection isn't working. > > > > > > My old box is an AMD Duro

How to diagnose a non-working pptp coonnection

2007-01-27 Thread Micha Feigin
I connect to the internet over cables using pptp. Up untill Thursday night everything worked fine, at which point it just stopped connecting. A Long phone call to the ISP earthed that they performed a major upgrade (which the first denied for an hour and a half of course). Anyway, to cut a long st

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Piotr Dziubinski
Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. Command I have used: apt-get install firefox NOT apt-get install iceweasel I knew exactly what I was doing, because my friend told me that there will be no longer firefox in debian, instead of it will be iceweasel, so I was curious what wi

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 01:44, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:24:33 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Shouldn't the setup of a firewall be part of the installation >>> routine? Perhaps prior to running tasksel, some script could

Re: probs installing g++ on unstable

2007-01-27 Thread michael
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 14:51 +0100, Jhair Tocancipa Triana wrote: > michael writes: > > > I have an unstable system on which I'm trying to install g++ but I've > > been getting the below dependency problem for about a month. Could > > somebody highlight whether this is just an 'unstable' "some pac

Re: probs installing g++ on unstable

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:21:52PM +, michael wrote: > I have an unstable system on which I'm trying to install g++ but I've > been getting the below dependency problem for about a month. Could > somebody highlight whether this is just an 'unstable' "some packages > just not ready" issue or som

Re: Raid trouble

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:26:01AM -0800, Land Haj wrote: > Hi! > > I decided to try etch out and use raid-1. All went fine until I mounted one > of the raid disks from another debian installation on the same computer, to > copy a library. My set up looks like this: > > sda ---> / in a sid inst

Re: probs installing g++ on unstable

2007-01-27 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
michael writes: > I have an unstable system on which I'm trying to install g++ but I've > been getting the below dependency problem for about a month. Could > somebody highlight whether this is just an 'unstable' "some packages > just not ready" issue or something deeper? I've included what I thi

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:25:20PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > I took the time to read through the whole discussion that lead to > Iceweasel being required for the next release of Debian. The main point > of contention seems to have been the graphics. Debian wants to My impression was tha

Re: Shouldn't pax (required by POSIX) have the required priority?

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:21:36AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > The pax package is optional. But as the pax utility is required by > POSIX[*], shouldn't this package be required? > > [*] http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/pax.html > Why? RPM is also required by LSB and it

Re: Firefox user agent settings for Iceweasel

2007-01-27 Thread John Talbut
>>> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Firefox/2.0 >> John Talbut wrote: >> >>Yes. And which line does that go on? And what goes on the other lines? > >Mathias Brodala wrote: > >Only one is necessary: general.useragent.extra.firefox. OK, thanks, I know this works, at least it works with http://local.l

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:11:26AM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Answers: > Etch > apt-get > > I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, but I > wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! > If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefo

probs installing g++ on unstable

2007-01-27 Thread michael
I have an unstable system on which I'm trying to install g++ but I've been getting the below dependency problem for about a month. Could somebody highlight whether this is just an 'unstable' "some packages just not ready" issue or something deeper? I've included what I think is all the required inf

USB Flash Memory permissions

2007-01-27 Thread John Talbut
I am having difficulty changing the permissions for my flash memory sticks. As I understand it, Gnome Volume Manager, invokes pmount-hal which passes back settings from hal and hal gets settings from udev. I have looked through the various udev rules files and anything to do with hal and I can

Re: usbmount replacement?

2007-01-27 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 14:41:55 -0800, Jason Dunsmore wrote: > I noticed that usbmount is no longer in Etch. I read that it was > replaced by pmount, but pmount doesn't automatically mount usb devices > the way usbmount did. > > I want my usb storage devices to be automatically mounted under > /

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-27 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 22:12:26 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/26/07 21:30, Tyler wrote: [...] > > In the meantime, how does one check for bad blocks and bad ram? I have > > the pre-installed fsck running every 30th boot, and so far no errors > > have ever been reported. > > That's how you c

Re: Sound on M/board

2007-01-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:34:25AM +, john gennard wrote: > Hi John, sorry if I snap at ya. I'm used to the ocassional wipper-snapper who just asks something with out doing any research. It seems that your issue is a bit non-standard which caught me off-gard. > Sorry, Kev, but I don't under

Re: Modem connection dropping Debian Etch

2007-01-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
John Kerr Anderson wrote: Hello everyone, I have a very annoying problem. I am trying to download some new programs via aptitude and notice that my modem connection keeps dropping out after 5 - 10 minutes. The connection keeps dropping esp. if I try to check a web-page out while it is download

Re: apt-listbugs behavior (was libpangocairo and gimp...)

2007-01-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 12:12:44PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > use aptitude interactively and ':' will hold a package at its current > level. also, '?' within apt-listbugs allows you to pin the packages, > but I've not tried it to determine the results. That is a bit confusing because '?

Re: How to make Pentium 133 work with 2.6.8 kernel?

2007-01-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 05:43:32PM +, Jeffrey Austen wrote: > We have a Dell Dimension XPS P133c which works fine with a > 2.4.27-586tsc kernel but does not work with the 2.6.8-386 > or 2.6.8-686 kernel. When booting with the 2.6.8 kernel > the messages produced are >root ... >kernel ..

Re: New Maintaners' Guide - Typo?

2007-01-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:19:28PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Fellow Debian Enthusiasts, > > Has anyone noticed that praecepta is misspelled in the New Maintainers' > Guide? I added the quote to my .signature file and sent out a few e-mails > before realizing it. There are lots of misspellin

Re: [OT] Dilbert cartoon featurng Linux

2007-01-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 04:20:59PM -0500, Stephen wrote: > OK it might not be that funny, but hey, at least it mentions Linux and the > evil > empire (as we know it); > > Check out userfriendly.org(?) for, IMO, LOL humour. -- Chris. ==

Raid trouble

2007-01-27 Thread Land Haj
Hi! I decided to try etch out and use raid-1. All went fine until I mounted one of the raid disks from another debian installation on the same computer, to copy a library. My set up looks like this: sda ---> / in a sid installation sdb ---> /home in the sid installation sdc ---> first disk in t

Re: A simple question

2007-01-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:28 +, s. keeling wrote: > And I would imagine any of them could be used if you chose to avoid > those three. Try out some of the other wm's. You might like them. > Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. There was some discussion about putting a whol

Re: Sound on M/board

2007-01-27 Thread john gennard
Kevin Mark wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 02:17:27PM +, john gennard wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 09:29:14AM +, john gennard wrote: Normally, I use a Sound Card, but with a new Asrock 775Dual-VSTA board, there's a front panel socket which I'd like to try, but

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Wackojacko
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 26 January 2007 19:11, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Answers: Etch apt-get I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox

Re: apt.conf and sources.list, defeat has come.

2007-01-27 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:32:34AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > Sorry to say, I am giving up on this specific research project. > > I have about 32 VMs created (about 25 or so deleted too). Have been > madly installing, upgrading even downgrading. Wit

Re: Sound on M/board

2007-01-27 Thread john gennard
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: john gennard wrote: Kevin Mark wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 09:29:14AM +, john gennard wrote: Normally, I use a Sound Card, but with a new Asrock 775Dual-VSTA board, there's a front panel socket which I'd like to try, but I don't understand the connectors. {s

apt.conf and sources.list, defeat has come.

2007-01-27 Thread Greg Folkert
Sorry to say, I am giving up on this specific research project. I have about 32 VMs created (about 25 or so deleted too). Have been madly installing, upgrading even downgrading. With various configurations of apt.conf and sources.list. I scrounged up my full set of install disks for potato, woody

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