Re: RAW image file

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:10:11 +0200, jesus_arocho wrote: > I use ufraw for nikon nef files and it works well. Supposedly krita can > open nefs but I have not been unable to get it to work. > > On Friday 08 June 2007 17:25, Bernard wrote: >> Hi, >> >> What kind of applications can open and use RAW

reorder files with a mouse in a file browser and rename them

Hello, This may be a little odd question. Can any of the file browsers (konqueror, nautilus) let a user reorder the files in a folder by dragging them to a certain position and then to rename the ordered files automatically with a file pattern? This problem arose because I have a few hundred

Sarge -> Etch = udev problems

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Howdy List, This being gone at school for 5 months and then trying to fix 6 computers when I get home all at the same time is getting old. :-) My latest problem is on a Thinkpad that I upgraded from Sarge to Etch. The upgrade installed a 2.6.18-*-486

Re: Bash doesn't ignore whitespaces

On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 09:37:31 +0800 "li sh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe there are some matters in the konsole or gnome-terminal(?) ? Try > those commands in the real terminal ? I had the problem in gnome-terminal and didn't test the normal terminals. Should the problem occur again (I hope no

Re: Bash doesn't ignore whitespaces

On 6/9/07, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am actually sure that bash is working fine in general and it was only for you in your environment that it was causing problems. Maybe there are some matters in the konsole or gnome-terminal(?) ? Try those commands in the real terminal ? -- li

Re: Bash doesn't ignore whitespaces

Valentin wrote: > I'll now try stuff like reinstalling bash or compiling it myself, > getting newer versions etc. Perhaps it'll work. :) I am actually sure that bash is working fine in general and it was only for you in your environment that it was causing problems. Because otherwise if bash real

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > I noticed that you are very alarmed about installing .rpms on a Debian > system. Although I am NOT planning on doing so, please explain. > Please also explain "Almost anything is better than installing .rpms > directly on a dpkg system." This really becomes the old adage, "Th

Re: Printers won't run

Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:24:08 -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: [ snip: We are trying to solve a problem with CUPS when printing on a remote printer which is shared on a Windows machine. ] Seems to work fine. dgwicks:~$ smbclient -N -L joyce Anonymous login successful D

Re: linux-kernel-headers

On Friday 08 June 2007 10:37, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:28:32 -0500 > > Randy Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I am needing the linux kernel headers to compile software for a wireless > > driver that isn't supported. I need to .deb file because this system > > isn'

Re: linux-kernel-headers

On Friday 08 June 2007 10:37, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:28:32 -0500 > > Randy Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I am needing the linux kernel headers to compile software for a wireless > > driver that isn't supported. I need to .deb file because this system > > isn'

Re: problems with totem

Hi Florian, thank you for your answer On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 23:01 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 14:53:11 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have done a fresh install of etch. When i try to view a video with > > totem, nothing is shown, the totem scree

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Bob, On 6/8/07, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Manon Metten wrote: > Nevertheless I've learned now how to install an .rpm package. (As a > Debian newbie, I still have to learn a lo-o-o-o-ot) Please clarify! Please tell me that you are not going to be install .rpm packages on your De

Re: sharing home directories for UML's

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 03:30:47PM +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Felipe Sateler schreef: > > >>I'm currenly looking at these options: > >>* COW funtionality > > > >That wouldn't work either, since COW usually is done on mounted filesystems > >too. > > I could make a file and then mount that

Re: Bash doesn't ignore whitespaces

Huh. I don't know what I did, but it seems that somewhere I did something right (tried everything I said and dpkg-reconfigure...) Well, at least I now have bash 3.2 --Valentin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: after alsaconf no sound

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 05:09:59PM -0400, Ralph Katz wrote: From: Ralph Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user Subject: Re: after alsaconf no sound X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on murphy.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,B

Re: Bash doesn't ignore whitespaces

Thanks for the suggestions > That is very strange. Did an IFS (input field separator) variable get > set? First I would verify that value. The following is one way: > > $ printf "$IFS" | od -tx1 -c > 000 20 09 0a >\t \n That's what it says for me: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~

Re: RAW image file

I use ufraw for nikon nef files and it works well. Supposedly krita can open nefs but I have not been unable to get it to work. On Friday 08 June 2007 17:25, Bernard wrote: > Hi, > > What kind of applications can open and use RAW image file created by > digital cameras? Does such applications e

Re: problems with totem

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 14:53:11 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > Hello, > > I have done a fresh install of etch. When i try to view a video with > totem, nothing is shown, the totem screen is black, but sound is ok. I > can listen the sound but nothjing appears in totem screen. This happens >

Re: Bash doesn't ignore whitespaces

Valentin wrote: > It seems that when I try to pipe stdout to other programs, bash doesn't > ignore whitespaces. Wow. That would make doing anything very hard. > Example: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg |grep foo > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg | grep foo > bash: grep: command not found > > Does anyb

RAW image file

Hi, What kind of applications can open and use RAW image file created by digital cameras? Does such applications exist for Linux? Thanks, -- Bernard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bash doesn't ignore whitespaces

Hi everybody. I've just installed lenny on my notebook and already have the first problem :) It seems that when I try to pipe stdout to other programs, bash doesn't ignore whitespaces. Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg |grep foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg | grep foo bash: grep: command not found

Re: after alsaconf no sound

On 06/08/2007 02:06 PM, Gerard Robin wrote: > Hello, > my sound worked fine in my box but after I ran alsaconf my system failed. > > I got: > sound blaster soundcard not found or device busy > can't grab irq 65535 > can't grab irq 65535 > can't grab irq 65535 > snd_sb8 probe of snd_sb8.0 failed wi

Re: Debian OS Backup

Jacob Ramirez wrote: We are running linux with Debian OS. I am new to using linux and debian. Can I use an external hard drive to backup the operating system and files on our linux servers? If so, how do I create a full backup of the system for disaster recovery? Is it easy to restore if there

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > Nevertheless I've learned now how to install an .rpm package. (As a > Debian newbie, I still have to learn a lo-o-o-o-ot) Please clarify! Please tell me that you are not going to be install .rpm packages on your Debian system! If that is what you meant then please let us ta

Re: Debian OS Backup

Jacob Ramirez wrote: We are running linux with Debian OS. I am new to using linux and debian. Can I use an external hard drive to backup the operating system and files on our linux servers? If so, how do I create a full backup of the system for disaster recovery? Is it easy to restore if ther

Re: partition table type

Mumia W.. wrote: On 06/06/2007 01:01 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: [...] The BIOS has nothing to do with disc partitions. The BIOS works either at an absolute physical level using geometric address: cylinder, head, sector, or at a logical physical level (LBA) using logical sector number. It has no ot

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Bob, On 6/8/07, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Then you are not aware of the Debian OOo 2.2.x packages available as a backport for Etch? http://www.backports.org/ No, I was not. I've seen this url passing by every now and then, but simply did not grasp it's importance. I've che

after alsaconf no sound

Hello, my sound worked fine in my box but after I ran alsaconf my system failed. I got: sound blaster soundcard not found or device busy can't grab irq 65535 can't grab irq 65535 can't grab irq 65535 snd_sb8 probe of snd_sb8.0 failed with error -16 . . I booted on my second hard drive (I

Re: sound cards, real time kernels and 64studio.......

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Michael Fothergill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is this true or is the 2.6.17 kernel in Etch OK for sound recording? > If you are going to be modifying your distribution anyway, you might consider rolling a vanilla kernel from kernel.org + your

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Why are you using the upstream binaries instead of the Debian OOo > > 2.2.x packages? > > Another thing is that I've read in some thread that Debian binaries are > always somewhat behind and they recommended to use the binaries > from the OOo website. T

Re: how to force the NIC to 1000M full duplex

Le Friday 08 June 2007 15:43:41 chloe K, vous avez écrit : > Hi Gilles > > Thank you > I install ethtool but it still has problem to force the card. > How can I put it in the boot up? /etc/network/interface Simply by putting this line in your interface section : iface eth7 inet ... ... up etht

problems with totem

Hello, I have done a fresh install of etch. When i try to view a video with totem, nothing is shown, the totem screen is black, but sound is ok. I can listen the sound but nothjing appears in totem screen. This happens with video files in mpg, mov or even with a dvd film (after installing libdvdcs

sound cards, real time kernels and 64studio.......

Dear Debianists, I have been nosing into the world of recording music on a PC i.e turning it into an 8 track tape recorder with its own on board synthesiser, drum machine and other goodies... Apparently there is a Debian based distribution called 64studio that runs on 64 bit machines (I am u

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Ron, stable (editors): OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0 On 6/8/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why are you using the upstream binaries instead of the Debian OOo 2.2.x packages? I'm running Etch and I could not

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Hi Bob, On 6/8/07, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To prevent aptitude from removing some packages that were pulled in through dependencies, you need to manually unmark them as auto packages. This includes OpenOffice and Vim for desktop installs: # aptitude unmarkauto openoff

Re: Debian OS Backup

Jacob Ramirez wrote: > We are running linux with Debian OS. I am new to using linux and > debian. Can I use an external hard drive to backup the operating system > and files on our linux servers? If so, how do I create a full backup of > the system for disaster recovery? Is it easy to restore i

Re: [OT] Kernel Upgrades

André Berger wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom (2007-06-07): André Berger wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom (2007-06-05): André Berger wrote: Let me give you an example to illustrate what I would like to know: Given, kernel 2.6.22 was out, and 2.6.21.3 was the latest previous stable kernel. Is there a patch

Re: Printers won't run

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:24:08 -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: [ snip: We are trying to solve a problem with CUPS when printing on a remote printer which is shared on a Windows machine. ] > Seems to work fine. > > dgwicks:~$ smbclient -N -L joyce > Anonymous login successful > Domain=[PINEYWOOD

Re: bug - don't know which prog

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:50:16AM -0400, Thane Poore wrote: > Have just upgraded from Ubuntu 6.06 to Ubuntu 7.04 as instructed > on their pages via installing Ubuntu 6.10 first. All seems well except > for a shutdown problem. I had Sylpheed Claws GTK2 running with ClamAV [snip description

Re: gzipped text in links2

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:45:26 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:27:22AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > Let's just ensure that we're doing the same thing; I hit 'g', then > > enter something like '/usr/share/doc/links2/changelog.gz' into the box, > > and

Re: Debian OS Backup

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:34:52 -0400 KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jacob Ramirez wrote: > > We are running linux with Debian OS. I am new to using linux and > > debian. Can I use an external hard drive to backup the operating system > > and files on our linux servers? If so, how do I create a

Re: Debian OS Backup

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:54:25AM -0500, Jacob Ramirez wrote: > We are running linux with Debian OS. I am new to using linux and > debian. Can I use an external hard drive to backup the operating system > and files on our linux servers? If so, how do I create a full backup of > the system for d

Re: linux-kernel-headers

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:28:32 -0500 Randy Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > I am needing the linux kernel headers to compile software for a wireless > driver that isn't supported. I need to .deb file because this system isn't > connected to the Internet but I can't seem to find the

Re: Debian OS Backup

Jacob Ramirez wrote: We are running linux with Debian OS. I am new to using linux and debian. Can I use an external hard drive to backup the operating system and files on our linux servers? If so, how do I create a full backup of the system for disaster recovery? Is it easy to restore if th

Re: Debian OS Backup

> Is there documentation somewhere that I can read that explains how to do > this? Thanks for your help in advance. Hi, u can see: rsync or do: apt-cache search backup Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gzipped text in links2

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:57:18 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 04:20:20AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:02:18 -0400 > > Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm running Etch amd64 and haven't found any graphical brow

Debian OS Backup

We are running linux with Debian OS. I am new to using linux and debian. Can I use an external hard drive to backup the operating system and files on our linux servers? If so, how do I create a full backup of the system for disaster recovery? Is it easy to restore if there is a need? Is there d

bug - don't know which prog

Hi; Have just upgraded from Ubuntu 6.06 to Ubuntu 7.04 as instructed on their pages via installing Ubuntu 6.10 first. All seems well except for a shutdown problem. I had Sylpheed Claws GTK2 running with ClamAV and Spamassassin installed (including the plugins for Sylpheed, which seemed to be

Re: Kernel building not idempotent?

On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:56:59AM +0200, Caeles wrote: > > I have trouble with building a custom kernel and hope somebody can help. Not that it helps, but why do you need a custom kernel? What hardware do you have that doesn't work? Note that with Etch, SATA drives now show up as /dev/sd* rath

Re: ssh access to etch

On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:13:20AM +0100, Chris Robinson wrote: > > I am trying to install packages etc to etch using ssh. > > In previous versions of debian (woody and sarge) I have been able to > answer question which filled the screen and had or 0r . > These questions appeared as a result

Re: gzipped text in links2

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 04:20:20AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:02:18 -0400 > Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm running Etch amd64 and haven't found any graphical browser that can > > do such a simple thing, not even links2. The only things I've found > > th

Re: [OT] Kernel Upgrades

* Hugo Vanwoerkom (2007-06-07): > André Berger wrote: > > * Hugo Vanwoerkom (2007-06-05): > >> André Berger wrote: > >>> Let me give you an example to illustrate what I would like to know: > >>> Given, kernel 2.6.22 was out, and 2.6.21.3 was the latest previous > >>> stable kernel. Is there a pat

linux-kernel-headers

Hey, I am needing the linux kernel headers to compile software for a wireless driver that isn't supported. I need to .deb file because this system isn't connected to the Internet but I can't seem to find the correct image. Currently I have; $uname -a Linux debian 2.6.18-4-486 The only versio

Re: Printers won't run

Florian Kulzer wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 08:58:55 -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: After following the suggestions of Florian and Samuel the Epson CX7800 prints now. But it won't print test pages. (?) That may have been the only problem with it to begin with. The HP (remote) still doesn't p

gnome-alsamixer configuration problem

Hello, after installing gnome-alsamixer, I get the following message when I try to run it: "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for GNOME ALSA Mixer. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly." The details of the error are quit long, but all of th

Re: how to force the NIC to 1000M full duplex

Hi Gilles Thank you I install ethtool but it still has problem to force the card. How can I put it in the boot up? /etc/network/interface Thank you ~# ethtool -s eth7 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off ~# ethtool -a eth7 Pause parameters for eth7: Autonegotiate: on RX: on TX:

Re: can you recommend any open source presentation tool?

On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:33:48PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:04:07 +0200 > Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Quite the opposite: latex gives you exact positioning of text and > > images, ppt does not. > > > > I'd love to hear about a (relatively) easy

Re: does etch have package that allow user bypass Internet censorship

On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 10:55:12AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > "Mumia W.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 06/03/2007 12:37 AM, Serena Cantor wrote: > > > I'm in mainland China. The government block some Web sites and some Web > > > pages. > > > > I believe the software is called either Tor or Torf

Re: Ping: Sendmsg: No Buffer Space Available

On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:26:18AM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote: > I've bought new hardware (asus p5nd2-se with Nvidia mcp51chipset) and > integrated network rtl8111/8168b Gigabit > > With debian stable (and kernel 2.6.21.3) after some minutes (or hours) my > network interface go down :-( and if i tr

Re: sharing home directories for UML's

Felipe Sateler schreef: I'm currenly looking at these options: * COW funtionality That wouldn't work either, since COW usually is done on mounted filesystems too. I could make a file and then mount that as extra partition and specify in the fstab file that the /home dir corresponds to that

which package in sarge and which package in etch can convert mpeg to avi? and 2 more questions

does ffmpeg works? some codecs don't work. 2 more questions: 1) I have a MP3 player, attached to PC via USB line. Now it works with Windows, how to make it work under sarge? (how to mount USB disk?) 2) which package in sarge and which package in etch can convert mp3 of sample rate of 64K to 24

xorg ati driver issues

Hello, I've installed etch in a P4 system with an ATI Radeon 9100 video card. The default driver used by xserver-xorg is the ATI one. But using it all fields with text, in all applications, including pages in the web, shows an annoying gray background. Solutions: 1) This can be solve in 98% of ti

Re: How to acquire text so to edit it?

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:09:39 +0200 Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excuse the basic question: > I wish to scan a printed text so to have it in an editable text file. > How can I do that with `sane' and `scanimage'? > > Thanks for any reply, > Rodolfo Scanners scan to image formats.

How to acquire text so to edit it?

Excuse the basic question: I wish to scan a printed text so to have it in an editable text file. How can I do that with `sane' and `scanimage'? Thanks for any reply, Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Video server type thing

On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 04:43:34PM +1000, Will Parkinson wrote: > Hi, > > I need to build a service on which i can host a customised video > conferencing program on which i can view and talk to up to 20 people at > once. Cool. I hope it will be Free. > Im just wondering what would be the best p

Re: interface eth0 not comming up after network restart

On 6/8/07, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:55:32 +0530 "Sumith augustine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi all, > > I ve installed etch in one of my sys, and am facing some issues with its > networking. > > After "/etc/init.d/networking restart" the interface eth0 won'

Re: dd_rescue works to copy an NTFS ...

Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote: > Hi, > does anyone knows if dd_rescue works to rescue an NTFS partition? > > Thanks in advance, Do you just want to clone the partition? Pcopy [1] works well for this [2]. Do you want to repair a corrupt partition? Have a look at Florian's suggestions

Re: Aptitude wants to remove OpenOffice.org

Manon Metten wrote: > Hi, > > On Etch, after having successfully removed OOo 2.0 and installed OOo 2.2.0, > after an aptitude update/upgrade aptitude complains: > > The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: > openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-draw > openoffice.

Re: Upgrade from 32bit Sarge to 64bit Etch

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:19:36 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another way you might want to go about it, is to just upgrade a 32-bit > setup to a 64 bit one, rather than installing multiple versions. That > being said, I have both the 32-bit version and the 64-bit version > installed,

Re: gzipped text in galeon with xfce4

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:02:18 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:34:39PM -0600, Jan Hetges wrote: > > Hello Everybody > > could someone please give me a hint how can get galeon to display > > gzipped text. i know that worked before... > > unstable some

Re: Install windows with debian problem

On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 18:32:41 -0300, Thiago Santos Faria Xavier Teixeira wrote: > i already tried to use a live cd (ubuntu) and acess my data to move > them to the another media, but the NTFS partition cannot be mounted e > exhibit a lot of erros... so i don´t know what to do... Try to boot a

Re: ssh access to etch

Hi Just to let you know I am now using readline and it all works super. Thanks Chris Kushal Kumaran wrote: On 6/7/07, Chris Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I am trying to install packages etc to etch using ssh. In previous versions of debian (woody and sarge) I have been able to ans

Re: interface eth0 not comming up after network restart

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:55:32 +0530 "Sumith augustine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi all, > > I ve installed etch in one of my sys, and am facing some issues with its > networking. > > After "/etc/init.d/networking restart" the interface eth0 won't come up and > won't be visible through the "i

interface eth0 not comming up after network restart

hi all, I ve installed etch in one of my sys, and am facing some issues with its networking. After "/etc/init.d/networking restart" the interface eth0 won't come up and won't be visible through the "ifconfig" command and if i try ping to some sys it says "Network is unreachable" =

Atheros' motivations [WAS] Re: SV: please

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:40:23 +0200 (MEST) Enrique Perez-Terron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > My laptop has an Atheros wireless nic, and that is one of the producers that > are scared about giving competitors any information, or about being sued for > some patent violation. > > (A digress