Re: Aptitude issue

2009-04-14 Thread M. Lewis
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 23:43:02 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 17:50:48 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: I'm having an issue with Aptitude that I'm not sure how to

Re: xfce 4.6 in unstable

2009-04-14 Thread JoeHill
Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:31:23 -0400 > JoeHill wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I recently set up my sytem to use apt-pinning, so my system is mainly > > testing but I pull some things from unstable: > > > > An update this morning brought down the new XFCE 4.6 package

Re: Time keeps on slippin, slippin... (serious clock drift; suggestions??)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-14_19:28:40, ponga wrote: > Greetings Debian Masters! > > I've just assembled two linux systems, both with identical (brand new) > Gigabyte mobo's, though my Debian Lenny is running a slightly slower > AMD dual core proc than the other Ubuntu Intrepid system. > > My problem is some SER

Re: Widescreen resolution ignored in xwindows/gdm

2009-04-14 Thread Cousin Stanley
> I have an Acer X233H widescreen monitor and cannot get > any of the 16:9 aspect resolutions up in gdm. > > I am using the latest 32-bit Etch binaries on a Pentium D > system w/1GB RAM and an Intel 945 G/GZ on-board video controller. > I have a Samsung widescreen lcd monitor with nativ

Time keeps on slippin, slippin... (serious clock drift; suggestions??)

2009-04-14 Thread ponga
Greetings Debian Masters! I've just assembled two linux systems, both with identical (brand new) Gigabyte mobo's, though my Debian Lenny is running a slightly slower AMD dual core proc than the other Ubuntu Intrepid system. My problem is some SERIOUS system clock drift on the Lenny system. Around

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:06:34PM +0100, Graham wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:22 +0300 > Micha Feigin wrote: > > > They know exactly what they do, and it's been in experimental for > > testing for a long time now. The whole idea is to allow hot plugging > > devices such as mice, printers et

HOWTO Make XEmacs switch to buffer

2009-04-14 Thread Jeff Chimene
Hi, This used to be not a problem. Since some upgrade, XEmacs (testing) no longer switches to the first non-scratch buffer. Would someone please provide the incantation that I can add to my init file that switches to the first non-scratch buffer? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: Possibly non-fatal smart errors

2009-04-14 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:10, Richard Hartmann wrote: > PS: If the extended test comes up with anything bad, I > will throw it away, anyway. fwiw: # 1 Extended offlineCompleted without error 00% 441 - Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: massive copy

2009-04-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-04-14 04:17, Justin wrote: Am I misunderstanding that command? How would that help? The limit here would be hard disk throughput, I imagine, and you're still reading/writing the same amount of data to the drive, nay? Just use your first, simplest, command (cp -pr * /mnw.t/nfs/dir/) and le

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Graham
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:22 +0300 Micha Feigin wrote: > They know exactly what they do, and it's been in experimental for > testing for a long time now. The whole idea is to allow hot plugging > devices such as mice, printers etc. If you look in > /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/ > there are even qui

Possibly non-fatal smart errors

2009-04-14 Thread Richard Hartmann
Hi all, I have a disk which gives me the following smart output. The stopped self-test is my bad. What do you guys think? I would tend to say the drive is OK, but 16 errors is a tad too much, imo. Thanks, Richard PS: If the extended test comes up with anything bad, I will throw it away, anywa

Widescreen resolution ignored in xwindows/gdm

2009-04-14 Thread Larry Irwin
I have an Acer X233H widescreen monitor and cannot get any of the 16:9 aspect resolutions up in gdm. I am using the latest 32-bit Etch binaries on a Pentium D system w/1GB RAM and an Intel 945 G/GZ on-board video controller. It comes up with 1600x1200 24 bit depth even though I have removed that

Re: mutt and /var/spool

2009-04-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 07:59:14PM +0200, Axel Freyn wrote: > Hi Marcelo, > > > > Can I use mutt to read and administrate emails from > > /var/spool/username ? Can it be done without any MTA, just with mutt > > only? I have many emails waiting in my /var/spool/username file. > just start mutt, typ

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:12:25AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:51, Dirk wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > >> > >> Thorny writes: > >>> > >>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even [snip] > Actually, hal is a rather useful piece of technol

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > But how to avoid adding hal in a dist-upgradeน? Now you can't, you will have to wait debian release a xorg-xserver-nohal or similar package (as suggeted in the bug commented before in this thread) Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: mutt and /var/spool

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Dengscherz
You can also set this mailbox as the default by specifying the "set spoolfile=..." parameter in your mutt configuration file (~/.muttrc). See http://mutt.blackfish.org.uk/storage/ for details. Regards, -sd 2009/4/14 Marcelo Chiapparini : > Thank you! it worked, > > best > > Marcelo > > 2009/4/14

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:01:01 +0200 Dirk wrote: > Thorny wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted: > > > >> Randy Kramer wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: > some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows > by making ha

[SOLVED] Re: CircularScrolling stopped working with X 7.4

2009-04-14 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:43:06 +0300 Micha Feigin wrote: > I'm migrating my settings from xorg.conf to hal due to the move to X 7.4. > Setting up vertical scrolling and circular scrolling seems to work except that > it is activated using all edges which is really annoying. I tried setting > >

[SOLVED] Re: Setting EmulateWheel with hal (new X model in sid)

2009-04-14 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:36:43 +0300 Micha Feigin wrote: > I'm trying to restore my X settings with the move to X 7.4 in sid which > requires moving keyboard and mouse settings to hal settings. I tried creating > a > file under > > /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty > > that contains > > >

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > (see subject) > > i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it > as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just > a log file (IMO))... ssmtp But anyway, what's your issue with an MTA?

Re: Problems when audio capturing with headset

2009-04-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 22:04:52 -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > Earlier, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > > I'm trying to test the operation of my headset in Debian GNU/Linux > > > Squeeze to be able to use it with a softphone. Although the sound > > > works with the rest of the applications with the

Re: lenny upgrade: font size

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Grieveson
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:29:11 + (UTC) debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > Check 'xdpyinfo | grep dime'. You should get the physical dimensions > of your screen. If they are wrong you can put the correct values > in xorg.conf. If they are correct, then you should adjust the

Re: Setting EmulateWheel with hal (new X model in sid)

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Micha Feigin: > I'm trying to restore my X settings with the move to X 7.4 in sid which > requires moving keyboard and mouse settings to hal settings. I tried creating > a > file under > > /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty > > that contains -- snip > But it doesn't seem to have any effect >

Re: Aptitude issue

2009-04-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 23:43:02 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 17:50:48 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: >>> Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote: > I'm having an issue with Aptitude that I'm not sure how to > c

CircularScrolling stopped working with X 7.4

2009-04-14 Thread Micha Feigin
I'm migrating my settings from xorg.conf to hal due to the move to X 7.4. Setting up vertical scrolling and circular scrolling seems to work except that it is activated using all edges which is really annoying. I tried setting 2 in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics

Setting EmulateWheel with hal (new X model in sid)

2009-04-14 Thread Micha Feigin
I'm trying to restore my X settings with the move to X 7.4 in sid which requires moving keyboard and mouse settings to hal settings. I tried creating a file under /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty that contains on 2 300 6 7 4 5 7 7 6

Re: etch to lenny upgrade - X apps no longer see keystrokes?

2009-04-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 09:21:11 +1000, Graham Williams wrote: > Received Fri 10 Apr 2009 6:31am +1000 from Florian Kulzer: > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 18:10:41 +1000, Graham Williams wrote: > > > Have just upgraded > > > > To what? Lenny, Squeeze, or Sid? > > >From etch to lenny, as per Subject

Re: mutt and /var/spool

2009-04-14 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Thank you! it worked, best Marcelo 2009/4/14 Axel Freyn : > Hi Marcelo, >> >> Can I use mutt to read and administrate emails from >> /var/spool/username ? Can it be done without any MTA, just with mutt >> only? I have many emails waiting in my /var/spool/username file. > just start mutt, type "c

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 14 Apr 2009, Javier Barroso wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Dirk wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > >> > >> Thorny writes: > >>> > >>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even > >>> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a > >>> de

Re: xfce 4.6 in unstable

2009-04-14 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:31:23 -0400 JoeHill wrote: > > Hi all, > > I recently set up my sytem to use apt-pinning, so my system is mainly > testing but I pull some things from unstable: > > An update this morning brought down the new XFCE 4.6 packages (yay!), > but it looks like not everything g

Re: [Partially solved] Re: Locale errors

2009-04-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 13:35:09 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:56:43 +0200 Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:38:56 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:40:04 +0100 Bob Cox wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > Just a thought: you have anything in /etc/

Re: Want to work with a Linux Group

2009-04-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Roger Preston wrote: >I am keen to work for/with a Linux development group, though am not sure > where to start. Are you running Debian on one or more systems? If so, you might want to install the "devscripts" package and then run wnpp-alert and rc-alert. "wnpp" is Debian shorthand for "Wo

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Kelly writes: > Anyway, X can make very good use of some of the services hal provides, > and there is no sensein Xorg recreating that functionality when it > already exists. That is grounds for a "Suggests", or perhaps even a "Recommends". It is not grounds for a "Depends". I know of nothing Hal

Re: mutt and /var/spool

2009-04-14 Thread Axel Freyn
Hi Marcelo, > > Can I use mutt to read and administrate emails from > /var/spool/username ? Can it be done without any MTA, just with mutt > only? I have many emails waiting in my /var/spool/username file. just start mutt, type "c" and enter /var/spool/username - mutt will open the file and you ca

mutt and /var/spool

2009-04-14 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello! Can I use mutt to read and administrate emails from /var/spool/username ? Can it be done without any MTA, just with mutt only? I have many emails waiting in my /var/spool/username file. thanks! Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: new KDE (4.2) in Unstable, how's your experience?

2009-04-14 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: > Hello, > > Has anybody been playing around with the new KDE we got a few days ago > in Sid? > > The graphics are nice, but looks like the GUI is not as fast or > responsive as the older one. This is on a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core > Processor 5600+ with 2 GB of RAM and GeForce 8

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 12:33:48 pm Celejar wrote: > Randy Kramer wrote: > >* I'm fairly certain that the functionality of an MTA is > > significantly more than just receiving mail via POP3 and sending it > > via SMTP. > > IIUC, MTAs don't generally do POP3; that's an MRA's job. > > http://en

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Martin Kraus
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 04:22:01PM +0200, Dirk wrote: > Martin Kraus wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:28:08AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs

Re: [Partially solved] Re: Locale errors

2009-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:56:43 +0200 Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:38:56 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:40:04 +0100 Bob Cox wrote: > > [...] > > > > Just a thought: you have anything in /etc/environment ? > > > > Very interesting; my /etc/environment contai

Re: [Partially solved] Re: Locale errors

2009-04-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:38:56 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:40:04 +0100 Bob Cox wrote: [...] > > Just a thought: you have anything in /etc/environment ? > > Very interesting; my /etc/environment contains: > > LANG="en_US.UTF-8" > > [I have no idea how that got there; I'm pr

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:51, Dirk wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> >> Thorny writes: >>> >>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even >>> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a >>> developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they m

System Services

2009-04-14 Thread clive
When I clicked on System>Administration>Services today a window with a list of a lot of Linux distributions were listed with the following message "The platform you are running is not supported by this tool If you know for sure that it works like one of the platforms listed below, you can select t

Re: new KDE (4.2) in Unstable, how's your experience?

2009-04-14 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:46 -0400, H.S. wrote: > Has anybody been playing around with the new KDE we got a few days ago > in Sid? Hm, I miss Quanta Plus. Under 'Web Development', there's no differently named html editor either. Has it gone? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: what does "kept back" mean when do "apt-get upgrade"?

2009-04-14 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 16:52, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I often see that some packages are "kept back" when I do "apt-get > > upgrade", what does it mean? > > It means that there are newer versions of those packages available, but > apt-get refrained from upgrading them. The reasons for that can

Re: [Partially solved] Re: Locale errors

2009-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:10:54 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2009-04-12 23:14:52 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > And here we have the problem! I noticed that when I log in as root > > directly, either to a getty or via 'su', then I don't see the problem. > > It only appears in root shells obtained w

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread ghe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:17 am Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Why would somebody need an MTA for a (normal) desktop? >> Why should every user specify an outgoing SMTP server? >> Why should every MUA implement the functionality of an MTA? Why figh

Re: usermod change username problem

2009-04-14 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:43:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > AFAIK filesystems don't know about usernames, just uid. I *think* I did > it this way: > > - logout my user and switch to single user (or reboot into single user > mode) > - edit /etc/passwd /etc/group and other relevant files >

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Martin Kraus
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:11:59AM -0400, Randy Kramer wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:17 am Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Why would somebody need an MTA for a (normal) desktop? > > Why should every user specify an outgoing SMTP server? > > Why should every MUA implement the functionality of

Re: [Partially solved] Re: Locale errors

2009-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:40:04 +0100 Bob Cox wrote: > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 20:24:27 -0700, Kelly Clowers > (kelly.clow...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 20:14, Celejar wrote: > > > > > > > > > So you seem to be correct; for some reason, in the sudo shell, the LC* > > > va

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:11:59 -0400 Randy Kramer wrote: ... >* I'm fairly certain that the functionality of an MTA is > significantly more than just receiving mail via POP3 and sending it via > SMTP. IIUC, MTAs don't generally do POP3; that's an MRA's job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Dirk wrote: > nah.. instead of configuring a package i don't want to install in the > first place i just run a cronjob that de-installs the MTA every 30 > minutes using > > dpkg --force-all --purge exim4 > > ..so i can run updates and the cronjob makes sure it turns out the way i > want it.. >

xfce 4.6 in unstable

2009-04-14 Thread JoeHill
Hi all, I recently set up my sytem to use apt-pinning, so my system is mainly testing but I pull some things from unstable: An update this morning brought down the new XFCE 4.6 packages (yay!), but it looks like not everything got updated, and I'm wondering if I need to give it a push or not. T

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Dirk: > John Hasler wrote: >> >> File a bug against xserver-xorg and firmly but _politely_ explain your >> objection. > > someone already did... > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214 > > and the replies, nitpicking and bullshitting already took more place, > energy and t

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Dirk wrote: some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from your installation and adding this - Section "ServerFlags"

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Javier Barroso
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Dirk wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> >> Thorny writes: >>> >>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even >>> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a >>> developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they

Re: Want to work with a Linux Group

2009-04-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:27:01PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:32:13AM +, Roger Preston wrote: > > I am keen to work for/with a Linux development group, though am not > > sure where to start. I'd start by asking what your major interests are. There's a lot of fre

Re: Want to work with a Linux Group

2009-04-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Carsten Hey wrote: Hi, thank you for your interest in Debian. Very complete list. Thanks! Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
John Hasler wrote: Thorny writes: Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like the way you explain your complaint. File a bug ag

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread John Hasler
Thorny writes: > Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even > though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a > developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like > the way you explain your complaint. File a bug against xserver-x

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as > dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log > file (IMO))... What are those "many programs"? On my Debian desktop, I happen to like to have an MTA running (exclusively for outgoing email

Re: Debian mitwirken

2009-04-14 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
Faruk writes: > ich bin linux sysadmin wobei ich erst seit 1,5 jahren wirklich damit > arbeite. da ich ein fan von debian bin und es auch in meiner > interesse liegt was dazu zu lernen würde ich gerne bei debian > mitwirken ... > > würde mich sehr über diesbezügliche infos freuen http://www.deb

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:17 am Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Why would somebody need an MTA for a (normal) desktop? > Why should every user specify an outgoing SMTP server? > Why should every MUA implement the functionality of an MTA? I'm still procrastinating on my taxes, so I'll respond ;-)

Re: what does "kept back" mean when do "apt-get upgrade"?

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I often see that some packages are "kept back" when I do "apt-get > upgrade", what does it mean? It means that there are newer versions of those packages available, but apt-get refrained from upgrading them. The reasons for that can be that in order to upgrade those packages, apt-get would need

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
Thorny wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted: Randy Kramer wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... Just for clarification, is this in Debian sta

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Why would somebody need an MTA for a (normal) desktop? Why should every user specify an outgoing SMTP server? Why should every MUA implement the functionality of an MTA? Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Thorny
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted: > Randy Kramer wrote: >> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: >>> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows >>> by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... >> >> Just for clarification, is this in Debian sta

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:13:58 am Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2009-04-14 15:33 +0200, Randy Kramer wrote: > > I did find a way to put a soft linked file in my local kmail > > folders so I could get email sent to the administrator--this was > > something like a hard link to the normal location of ro

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
Michael Pobega wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... Dirk Install nullmailer, I'm

Debian mitwirken

2009-04-14 Thread Faruk
ich bin linux sysadmin wobei ich erst seit 1,5 jahren wirklich damit arbeite. da ich ein fan von debian bin und es auch in meiner interesse liegt was dazu zu lernen würde ich gerne bei debian mitwirken ... würde mich sehr über diesbezügliche infos freuen lg faruk -- Faruk Gülce MCI MANAGEMENT

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
Randy Kramer wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test? Randy Kramer unstable.. if it was already in stab

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
Martin Kraus wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:28:08AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-04-14 15:33 +0200, Randy Kramer wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 09:08:41 am Dirk wrote: >> Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> > Unix without an MTA??? > > To me, that's a wonderful idea--in fact, that's the way I ran my > Mandriva2006 system for the last 3 years. I just used kmail like a > Wi

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Pobega
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > (see subject) > > i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it > as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just > a log file (IMO))... > > > Dirk > Install nullmailer, I'm pretty sure t

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Randy Kramer wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: >> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows >> by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... > > Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test? In unst

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 09:08:41 am Dirk wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > Unix without an MTA??? To me, that's a wonderful idea--in fact, that's the way I ran my Mandriva2006 system for the last 3 years. I just used kmail like a Windows mail client, receiving mail (directly (from my ISP))

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote: > some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows > by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test? Randy Kramer -- I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I creat

Re: Want to work with a Linux Group

2009-04-14 Thread Carsten Hey
Hi, thank you for your interest in Debian. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:32:13AM +, Roger Preston wrote: > I am keen to work for/with a Linux development group, though am not > sure where to start. Besides things like translating, maintaining the Debian website and reporting bugs there are basi

Re: Want to work with a Linux Group

2009-04-14 Thread Randy Kramer
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 06:32:13 am Roger Preston wrote: > I am keen to work for/with a Linux development group, though am not > sure where to start. > > I would describe myself as a competent C++ programmer, though perhaps > not quite at your levels yet. Roger, I'm sure this is not the answer

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Martin Kraus
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:28:08AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > > (see subject) > > > > i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it > > as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... Unix without an MTA??? Why not i

Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > (see subject) > > i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it > as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just > a log file (IMO))... Unix without an MTA??? Why not install exim, then

Re: Re: Aptitude versus Update-manager

2009-04-14 Thread Marcelo Laia
> I think you are overdoing it. If you have all three version in > sources.list (which you do) apt will always install the newest version > possible. For running pure unstable you don't really need any pinning. But, why aptitude look at my pinning configuration and update-manager not? Thank you v

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
Javier Barroso wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dirk wrote: some true a**hole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from your installation and adding this --

Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dirk wrote: > some true a**hole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by > making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... > > you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from > your installation and adding this > > ---

Want to work with a Linux Group

2009-04-14 Thread Roger Preston
Dear Debian, I am interested what you guys are doing with this new operating system. I am keen to work for/with a Linux development group, though am not sure where to start. I would describe myself as a competent C++ programmer, though perhaps not quite at your levels yet. I would really a

Re: what does "kept back" mean when do "apt-get upgrade"?

2009-04-14 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/4/14 明覺 : > I often see that some packages are "kept back" when I do "apt-get > upgrade", what does it mean? what actions are done to those kept back > packages? thanks apt-get upgrade by default will not install new packages or remove installed packages. man apt-get read the upgrade section.

HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
some true a**hole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from your installation and adding this - Section "ServerFlags" Option "

Re: ffmpeg, swf and flv files

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Dancing Fingers: > > I've been experimenting with ffmpeg to create "Flash" videos. I can > create a .flv (and .swf) video this way: > ffmpeg -i myVideo.avi myVideo.flv > This .flv file works great in linux but if I plug it into an html > object I get squwat -- in Windows. Has anyone else got

Re: massive copy

2009-04-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:14:43AM +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > I have to copy around 250 Gb from a server to a Netapp NFS server > and I wonder what would be faster ? > > first solution > > cp -pr * /mnt/nfs/dir/ > > second solution ( 26 cp processes running in // ) > > > for i in a b c

ffmpeg, swf and flv files

2009-04-14 Thread Dancing Fingers
Hi guys, I've been experimenting with ffmpeg to create "Flash" videos. I can create a .flv (and .swf) video this way: ffmpeg -i myVideo.avi myVideo.flv This .flv file works great in linux but if I plug it into an html object I get squwat -- in Windows. Has anyone else got ffmpeg to produce us

HOWTO run xorg without hal

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from your installation and adding this - Section "ServerFlags" Option

Re: massive copy

2009-04-14 Thread Justin
Am I misunderstanding that command? How would that help? The limit here would be hard disk throughput, I imagine, and you're still reading/writing the same amount of data to the drive, nay? Just use your first, simplest, command (cp -pr * /mnw.t/nfs/dir/) and leave it. If you had done that to begin

Re: massive copy

2009-04-14 Thread Glyn Astill
--- On Tue, 14/4/09, Frank Bonnet wrote: > From: Frank Bonnet > Subject: Re: massive copy > To: glynast...@yahoo.co.uk > Cc: "Debian User List" > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 10:02 AM > Glyn Astill wrote: > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, Frank Bonnet > wrote: > > > >> From: Frank Bonnet > >> Subj

Re: massive copy

2009-04-14 Thread Frank Bonnet
Glyn Astill wrote: --- On Tue, 14/4/09, Frank Bonnet wrote: From: Frank Bonnet Subject: massive copy To: "Debian User List" Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:14 AM Hello I have to copy around 250 Gb from a server to a Netapp NFS server and I wonder what would be faster ? first solution cp

Re: massive copy

2009-04-14 Thread Glyn Astill
--- On Tue, 14/4/09, Frank Bonnet wrote: > From: Frank Bonnet > Subject: massive copy > To: "Debian User List" > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:14 AM > Hello > > I have to copy around 250 Gb from a server to a Netapp NFS > server > and I wonder what would be faster ? > > first solution >

how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk
(see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... Dirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

[SOLVED] Re: Starting Conky at logon in Gnome

2009-04-14 Thread Andrew G
Thanks Ron I don't know if this is *the* way of doing things, but it works: I created a small bash script file to be called at start up. Just adding "conky &" to the session start up didn't work because it would get overwritten by the time Nautillus started up, so after a bit of searching, a scri

massive copy

2009-04-14 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello I have to copy around 250 Gb from a server to a Netapp NFS server and I wonder what would be faster ? first solution cp -pr * /mnt/nfs/dir/ second solution ( 26 cp processes running in // ) for i in a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z do cp -pr $i* /mnt/nfs/dir/ & done

Re: [Partially solved] Re: Locale errors

2009-04-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2009-04-14 09:45:18 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > If you replace LANG="C" by LANG=C in /etc/environment, can you still > observe the same problem? In fact, it seems that pam_env (used by "sudo -i") assumes that double-quotes are part of the value, hence the problem. See https://bugs.launch

Re: Update-alternatives questions

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Paul E Condon: > > I can't find a way to simply list the link groups, or a way to learn > what packages actually use/set which each link group. "ls /etc/alternatives" shows all the link groups on your system. It doesn't say which package uses which link group, though. For each file in /etc/altern

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