Re: mutt + gpg in bash script

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Dubinin
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Re: Packaging tutorial

2013-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Building a completely new Debian package isn't easy to do, but you sometimes can use existing packages to build packages for newer software versions, that aren't available by the repositories. I seldom did it that way, I prefer to build packages using checkinstall and don't care for it's limitation

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 14:07 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 6/16/2013 1:39 PM, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:29:44 -0400 > > Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > >> On 6/16/2013 9:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Debian will quickly

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread John Hasler
Mark writes: > I think it's because MariaDB is a fork of MySQL. Since they both do > exactly the same thing, why have both?, is the thinking. Debian will have both for as long as there are developers willing to maintain both and both remain Free. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI US

RE: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Mark Allums
> From: Miles Fidelman [mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net] > > This is essentially what the consensus of the discussions I have seen boils > down to. Some distributions, such as Fedora, are "switching." It's an > either/or. Debian appears to prefer to let the marketplace decide > ("marketplace"

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Allums wrote: From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [mailto:h...@debian.org] The Debian way is to provide mariadb packages, and keep providing Oracle mysql packages. What we would probably do: 0. add mariadb packages. 1. Rename mysql* to mysql-oracle*, provide msyql-* "transitional" packag

RE: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Mark Allums
> From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [mailto:h...@debian.org] > The Debian way is to provide mariadb packages, and keep providing Oracle > mysql packages. We'll do away with Oracle mysql when the day comes that > it > is unfeasible or extremely undesireable to keep providing them, or nobody > wan

bios

2013-06-16 Thread james gray
i have found biosdecode, dmidecode and would like to ask if any one has good reference to GNU Linux resources to working with the bios in parsing and manipulating the data from the bios into the Debian system. The bios is at v 2.0 and i need to upgrade that, good luck i would guess. any suggestio

Re: Packaging tutorial

2013-06-16 Thread John Hasler
Tony writes: > It leaves me very confused when, for instance, trying to package a > program written in tcl or bash that has no make files and stuff. Download the source packages for some things similar to what you intend to package and study them. Also read the debian-policy document. -- John Ha

Re: Packaging tutorial

2013-06-16 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:18:29AM +0300, Vadim Kolchev wrote: > В Вск, 16/06/2013 в 22:30 +0200, Slavko пишет: > > Dňa 16.06.2013 21:33 Vadim Kolchev wrote / napísal(a): > > > > > have some experience. So my questions are: > > > 1. What do I need to know to learn debian packaging > > > 2. What m

Re: Questions about installation

2013-06-16 Thread Whit Hansell
On 06/16/2013 05:38 PM, Vadim Kolchev wrote: В Вск, 16/06/2013 в 15:17 -0600, Yongbo Zuo пишет: Hi All I have a new PC, I am planning to install both win7 and Debian, My hardware is as following: CPU: intel i4770k, 8 core, 3.5GHz GPU: AMD HD7970 Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H during the ins

Re: Questions about installation

2013-06-16 Thread Vadim Kolchev
В Вск, 16/06/2013 в 15:17 -0600, Yongbo Zuo пишет: > Hi All > > > I have a new PC, I am planning to install both win7 and Debian, > My hardware is as following: > CPU: intel i4770k, 8 core, 3.5GHz > GPU: AMD HD7970 > Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H > > > during the installation process, debian

Questions about installation

2013-06-16 Thread Yongbo Zuo
Hi All I have a new PC, I am planning to install both win7 and Debian, My hardware is as following: CPU: intel i4770k, 8 core, 3.5GHz GPU: AMD HD7970 Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H during the installation process, debian cannot recognized my ethernet card, any suggestions that I can fix that? I

Re: Packaging tutorial

2013-06-16 Thread Vadim Kolchev
В Вск, 16/06/2013 в 22:30 +0200, Slavko пишет: > Dňa 16.06.2013 21:33 Vadim Kolchev wrote / napísal(a): > > > have some experience. So my questions are: > > 1. What do I need to know to learn debian packaging > > 2. What mandatory steps are there to build package properly > > 3. Are there any kno

Re: Packaging tutorial

2013-06-16 Thread Slavko
Dňa 16.06.2013 21:33 Vadim Kolchev wrote / napísal(a): > have some experience. So my questions are: > 1. What do I need to know to learn debian packaging > 2. What mandatory steps are there to build package properly > 3. Are there any known resources on the internet that give step-by-step > examp

Packaging tutorial

2013-06-16 Thread Vadim Kolchev
Hi all, I don't know whether it is appropriate to write to this mailing list on this matter. I'm rather new to Debian and I would like to learn more about packaging and to try to do some packaging for myself. I read appropriate wiki pages, and I have to note that they are not oriented towards total

can't get mail from dovecot after upgrade to wheezy

2013-06-16 Thread Tony Baldwin
I upgraded my server to wheezy today. I followed the instructions for migrating my dovecot config. When I try to connect to the server with mutt, I get gnutls_handshake: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Squirrelmail can't connect to the IMAP server, either. Dovecot restarts with

Stable Kernel: Screen blacks out with Intel 830mg graphics

2013-06-16 Thread Memnon Anon
Just a short warning: I had some trouble today on my thinkpad x30 with its Intel 830MG graphics running debian stable. Kernel 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 works fine here, but 3.2.46-1 hit my machine today, and everything just went dark. I managed to log in blind, start sshd and connect via my desktop machin

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Weaver
On Sun, June 16, 2013 6:17 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> Debian will quickly lose users to distros which do listen > > Can you name some distros that do listen? O.K., I find that Debian does. There seem to be some here that think that there

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Pretty much ANY distro which listens better than the Debian > developers will gain at the loss of Debian. > > That's the way the world is going. If you don't deliver what users > want, someone else will. > > It's not like back in the 80's when there we

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/16/2013 1:39 PM, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:29:44 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 6/16/2013 9:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Debian will quickly lose users to distros which do listen Can you name some distros that do listen?

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Slavko
Dňa 16.06.2013 18:05 Andrei POPESCU wrote / napísal(a): > On Du, 16 iun 13, 11:15:03, Slavko wrote: > Well, in general Debian works as a do-ocracy. That means the decision is > taken by whoever does the work. It is entirely possible to maintain a > package or take care of parts of the infrastru

Re: debian.de failure?

2013-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:33:30 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote is there a DNS problem known for the domain debian.de? POC shown by denic.de is Elmar K. Bins, elmi AT detebe DOT org. FWIW Nameserver:ns.4ever.de Nameserver:ns.does.not-exist.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:29:44 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 6/16/2013 9:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> Debian will quickly lose users to distros which do listen > > > > Can you name some distros that do listen? > > > > > > Who cares a

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:29:44 +0200, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 6/16/2013 9:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Debian will quickly lose users to distros which do listen Can you name some distros that do listen? Who cares about other distros?

debian.de failure?

2013-06-16 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi, is there a DNS problem known for the domain debian.de? Konqueror is telling me unknown domain:www.debian.de Yesterday everything worked fine, and strangewise I can still get channel.debian.de without any problem. If everything is ok, please let me also know. Best regards Hans -- T

Re: dictionary package

2013-06-16 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:21:56 +0800 lina wrote: > On Sunday 16,June,2013 03:25 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 16 iun 13, 13:32:35, lina wrote: > >> > >> So wish to have a dict to "record" the words I looked up and then I > >> would be easily to review. > > > > You could use a small wrapper

Re: dictionary package

2013-06-16 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:14:08 +0800 lina wrote: > Wow. so simple, why the dict --help so verbose. > > Haha ... thanks for your help. You are most welcome, gracious lady. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes "The Barsoom Project" -

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/16/2013 10:27 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2013 16 Jun 07:59 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Yes, this is a "consumers" mailing list. And if "consumers" can't pass along what they want for the future, Debian will quickly lose users to distros which do listen. Debian does listen since its de

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/16/2013 9:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Debian will quickly lose users to distros which do listen Can you name some distros that do listen? Who cares about other distros? I'm talking about Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: samba probléma

2013-06-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 iun 13, 14:37:12, Szasa Szasa wrote: > Sziasztok ! > > Nem egészen ide tartozik, de segítséget kérek, ha valaki tud. > > Debian-t installáltam az egyik gépemre a másikon UBUNTU van. A samba az > UBUNTU-n gond nélkül megy, de a debianon nem tudom installálni a > samba-t. Van rajta

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 iun 13, 11:15:03, Slavko wrote: > > Please, note that i don't wrote about collaborating, but i wrote about > making decisions. I am sorry, if it was not clean. Well, in general Debian works as a do-ocracy. That means the decision is taken by whoever does the work. It is entirely possib

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2013 16 Jun 07:59 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Yes, this is a "consumers" mailing list. And if "consumers" can't > pass along what they want for the future, Debian will quickly lose > users to distros which do listen. Debian does listen since its developers are its users as well. You may g

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Debian will quickly lose users to distros which do listen Can you name some distros that do listen? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

samba probléma

2013-06-16 Thread Szasa Szasa
ms550603 - ma, 14.29 Új Sziasztok ! Nem egészen ide tartozik, de segítséget kérek, ha valaki tud. Debian-t installáltam az egyik gépemre a másikon UBUNTU van. A samba az UBUNTU-n gond nélkül megy, de a debianon nem tudom installálni

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/16/2013 1:02 AM, Slavko wrote: Dňa 16.06.2013 03:01 Weaver wrote / napísal(a): Unless things have changed lately, I was under the impression that Debian was a community. Sure, the Debian is community distribution, as described in the Social contract (see http://www.debian.org/social_cont

Re: Need help undeleting a Big gz compressed tar ball

2013-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: If the OP does remember the date, it might help to recover files only from this date or at least recover only files from a given time span, most, if not all tools provide this option too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Need help undeleting a Big gz compressed tar ball

2013-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 22:34 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 01:14:47PM -0400, To Ro wrote: > > I started testing one of the recovered files, with a binary file editor can > > se a long sequence of zeros at the very beginning of it, took some > > precautions, and here is what

Re: Need help undeleting a Big gz compressed tar ball

2013-06-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 01:14:47PM -0400, To Ro wrote: > I started testing one of the recovered files, with a binary file editor can > se a long sequence of zeros at the very beginning of it, took some > precautions, and here is what I see > > ls -lh > total 5.8G > -r 1 xyz xyz 5.8G Jun 14

Re: dictionary package

2013-06-16 Thread lina
On Sunday 16,June,2013 03:25 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 16 iun 13, 13:32:35, lina wrote: >> >> So wish to have a dict to "record" the words I looked up and then I >> would be easily to review. > > You could use a small wrapper script $HOME/bin/dict > > , > | #!/bin/sh > | > | echo "$@

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Slavko
Dňa 16.06.2013 09:49 Andrei POPESCU wrote / napísal(a): > On Du, 16 iun 13, 07:02:35, Slavko wrote: >> >> As i mentioned, anybody can be member of the Debian community, but pure >> users are consumers only. And this ML is for these consumers ;-) > > Users can (and should): snip. You are right in

Re: dictionary package

2013-06-16 Thread lina
On Sunday 16,June,2013 01:53 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:32:35 +0800 > lina wrote: > >> So wish to have a dict to "record" the words I looked up and then I >> would be easily to review. > > Maybe the bash history would be enough for you. >> >> Do you have some manuals/tuto

Re: RedHat and MariaDB

2013-06-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 iun 13, 07:02:35, Slavko wrote: > > As i mentioned, anybody can be member of the Debian community, but pure > users are consumers only. And this ML is for these consumers ;-) Users can (and should): - report bugs as they find them and be ready to test new versions proposed by develo

Re: dictionary package

2013-06-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 iun 13, 13:32:35, lina wrote: > > So wish to have a dict to "record" the words I looked up and then I > would be easily to review. You could use a small wrapper script $HOME/bin/dict , | #!/bin/sh | | echo "$@" >> $HOME/.dict_history | dict "$@" ` Expand as needed. Kind regar