Re: bc is not in linux-source debs.Recommended, neither in Documentation/Changes

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Regid Ichira wrote: > I didn't get response for a similar post on > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2013/06/msg01262.html. Is it > because the answers are too obvious? Probably because debian-kernel is overwhelmed with the daily grind of urgent bug reports. What you are asking about is

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
The point about mentioning browsers is that you don't generally look there. Unix convention is to only lead config (or otherwise hidden) files with a dot. If you do an ls -a, you're asking to see these files, so I don't see how they're polluting your namespace. I'm much prefer to have file metadata

Re: SANE - trying to get an LIDE 110 working in Debian Squeeze.

2013-07-02 Thread Chen Wei
> Paul Lewis wrote: > >However for this scanner SANE stipulates 1.0.62 backend but it seems > >squeeze has 1.0.61 bundled is there an apt repository that provides > >1.0.62 or .63? > > Back in the day, I had to install SANE from backports for LiDE 110 > to work. I have this scanner. I can confirm

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:06:17 -0500, Yaro Yaro wrote: > Package managers don't track .dotfiles. No, they don't. That, of course, is part of the problem. But it would be useful if packages were to have a standard format for declaring what dotfiles the package is in charge of. Much like the way

Re: encrypted USB backup.

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:00:35 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Hendrik Boom" >> >> What is the recommended way to set up part of a USB volume as an >> encrypted volume, so that I can back up those few of my files that >> actually contain secrets? >> > You could tr

High Load/Interrupts on Wheezy

2013-07-02 Thread Will Platnick
I am experiencing some issues with load after upgrading some of my Squeeze boxes to Wheezy. I have 7 app servers, all with identical hardware with identical packages and code. I upgraded one of my boxes to wheezy, along with the custom packages we use for Python, PHP, etc… Same versions of the soft

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:02:08 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > Y'all are really taking all of the fun out of this. > > Here's the point - this is an exercise. There is no good reason to do > this. What, you've got a 10 meg disk that is at 95%? Well, if you pay > shipping, I've got a extra 40 meg that

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
Heh. Thanks for filling in the gaps. (Although, I would point out that every killer app today started as somebody's fun project yesterday, so there's no reason to discourage them. Bits of what we've seen of the road ahead, yeah, let them make up their minds about which way they go.) On Wed, Jul 3

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
(Top-posting seems more natural on this one, since my response is a general response, but we seem to have list participants who prefer rules to reason ((8-*)), so I'll pick random places to insert my comments. Hope I don't lose focus.) On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Richard Lawrence < richard.law

Re: Help - Gnome Died After Update/Upgrade

2013-07-02 Thread David
On 3 July 2013 00:59, Mark Phillips wrote: > I have been running Debian testing on my laptop for several years. I > performed a "routine" update/upgrade on Sunday, and I seem to have lost > gnome. At first, I could not log in, but I got that fixed. However, when I > log in, all I get is my wallpap

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
Y'all are really taking all of the fun out of this. Here's the point - this is an exercise. There is no good reason to do this. What, you've got a 10 meg disk that is at 95%? Well, if you pay shipping, I've got a extra 40 meg that I use as a book end that I'll send you. Keep the files or delete t

Re: bc is not in linux-source debs.Recommended, neither in Documentation/Changes

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Regid Ichira wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:14:40 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > > 1. What exactly are you concerned about that we can do something > >about on the users list? Has bc been dropped from being a default > >part of the most basic install? > > bc i

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:28 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: > >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > >> > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > >> > > >> > No doub

Re: bc is not in linux-source debs.Recommended, neither in Documentation/Changes

2013-07-02 Thread Regid Ichira
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:14:40 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 1. What exactly are you concerned about that we can do something >about on the users list? Has bc been dropped from being a default >part of the most basic install? bc is priority standard. Doesn't that mean that there are Debian ins

Re: update-rc.d error: using dependency based boot sequencing?

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Art Huston wrote: > I added /etc/init.d/tightvncserver to start a VNC server. It looks fine -- > I have the LSB comments and it works when invoked directly from the > command-line, e.g. > > cd /etc/init.d > ./tightvncserver start > > But update-rc.d gives an error: > > root@debian01:/etc/init.d#

update-rc.d error: using dependency based boot sequencing?

2013-07-02 Thread Art Huston
Hi, I added /etc/init.d/tightvncserver to start a VNC server. It looks fine -- I have the LSB comments and it works when invoked directly from the command-line, e.g. cd /etc/init.d ./tightvncserver start But update-rc.d gives an error: root@debian01:/etc/init.d# update-rc.d tightvncserver defau

Re: Debian machine not booting

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Proulx
James Allsopp wrote: > One other point sda isn't the boot hard drive, that's the partitions /sdb1 > and sdc1, but these should be the same (I thought I'd mirrored them to be > honest). I don't see sda anywhere. It might be a dual booting Windows disk? Or other. But the BIOS will boot the first d

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > >> >> And which ones are obsolete -- the user equivalent of configuration >> files, which are properly tracked by the package manager? > > > The violence option? As in, mv all the .files t

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread John Hasler
Look at the access times. dotfiles that have not been accessed in years can probably be safely removed. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: >> > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. >> > >> > No doubt some of them are useful. >> > >> > Many, though, are probably re

Re: Botched python upgrade mangled my system--- HELP

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Charles Blair wrote: > (1) When plugged into a nearby ethernet connection > (of course very lucky that there is one), I got > connected immediately. From /etc/network/interfaces Yay! > > allow-hotplug eth0 > > #NetworkManager#iface eth0 inet dhcp Since it is commented out then NetworkManage

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past -- packages > I installed long ago, no longer need, and have removed. > > Is ther

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: > On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > > > Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past -- packages > > I installe

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Yaro Yaro
Package managers don't track .dotfiles. Those are created at runtime by your software. On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past

Re: encrypted USB backup.

2013-07-02 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Hendrik Boom" > > What is the recommended way to set up part of a USB volume as an > encrypted volume, so that I can back up those few of my files that > actually contain secrets? > You could try using encfs. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

encrypted USB backup.

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
What is the recommended way to set up part of a USB volume as an encrypted volume, so that I can back up those few of my files that actually contain secrets? This is not a backup over the net. I have no need to encrypt the data transmission. I already back up the bulk of my files transparentl

Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. No doubt some of them are useful. Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past -- packages I installed long ago, no longer need, and have removed. Is there any way of identifying which packages are using which dotfiles?

Re: SANE - trying to get an LIDE 110 working in Debian Squeeze.

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Lewis
On 02/07/13 19:19:34, st wrote: > > Back in the day, I had to install SANE from backports for LiDE 110 > to work. > > Serge Tiunov, I've looked at backports, but get errors on the UK repository. I'll give it another try tomorrow. Thanks

Re: SANE - trying to get an LIDE 110 working in Debian Squeeze.

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Lewis
On 02/07/13 20:20:37, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Sorry, Paul - I didn't mean to send off list. Here it is on the list > where it ought to have been in the first place. > > I ought to have said that I had previously had it working for a year > on Squeeze on my old computer. > > Lisi Don't worry about i

Re: Botched python upgrade mangled my system--- HELP

2013-07-02 Thread Charles Blair
A great big THANK YOU for all the help with my python upgrade mistakes. (1) When plugged into a nearby ethernet connection (of course very lucky that there is one), I got connected immediately. From /etc/network/interfaces > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > # The primary network

simulating a large Windows domain with Samba

2013-07-02 Thread Rob Owens
For a project at work, I need to simulate a large Windows domain (100's or 1000's of member computers). Is there an easy way to do this with Samba, short of creating 100's or 1000's of real or virtual machines? The Domain controller will be an actual Windows machine, but for my test I need t

Re: SANE - trying to get an LIDE 110 working in Debian Squeeze.

2013-07-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
Sorry, Paul - I didn't mean to send off list. Here it is on the list where it ought to have been in the first place. I ought to have said that I had previously had it working for a year on Squeeze on my old computer. Lisi On Tuesday 02 July 2013 17:38:56 Paul Lewis wrote: > The scanner is rec

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Richard Lawrence" > > Joey Hess writes: > > > Richard Lawrence wrote: > >> I've recently (re-)decided to make an effort to use PGP, and to > >> convince > >> others to use it too. (My effort to do so: > >> http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rwl/encryption.html, l

USB printer requires unplugging every time with CUPS‏

2013-07-02 Thread amber gilchrist
Having a strange USB print problem with my new Squeeze upgrade. I have an HP Laserjet 4M+ connected to my computer on a USB port. (On the printer, the USB cable goes into a USB-to-parallel adaptor on the printer's parallel port). It worked fine with Wheezy. Now, I can only print one job. After

Re: SANE - trying to get an LIDE 110 working in Debian Squeeze.

2013-07-02 Thread peasthope
* From: Paul Lewis * Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:38:56 +0100 > 'Scanimage -L' returns: > > No scanners were identified. > However for this scanner SANE stipulates > 1.0.62 backend ... Not directly relevant but might suggest an idea. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/06/msg00536

Re: SANE - trying to get an LIDE 110 working in Debian Squeeze.

2013-07-02 Thread st
Paul Lewis wrote: However for this scanner SANE stipulates 1.0.62 backend but it seems squeeze has 1.0.61 bundled is there an apt repository that provides 1.0.62 or .63? Back in the day, I had to install SANE from backports for LiDE 110 to work. -- Best nightdreams. Serge Tiunov,

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
John Hasler writes: > Do you really need to archive each message in individually encrypted > form? If you are concerned about the security of local copies I would > think you would already be using disk or file system encryption. No, I am OK with keeping unencrypted local copies, at least on my

Re: Nvidia and 4 monitors in 7.1

2013-07-02 Thread arclance
nvidia-settings in the latest beta driver 325.08 (released yesterday) has support for configuring Base Mosaic in the GUI. > Added support for configuring SLI Mosaic and Base Mosaic in the "X > Server Display Configuration" page of nvidia-settings. > If you can install that (sgfxi makes this easy

Re: kernel not upgraded to wheezy

2013-07-02 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 02 Jul 2013, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > For some reason a recent upgrade of grub2 led to a failed configure. I > found other people on Google, mainly ubuntu users,with a similar problem > but no obvious solution. I purged grub2 and reinstalled, but the same > error appeared. That was why I rev

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread Joey Hess
Richard Lawrence wrote: > Good to know, thanks. When I try this, Mutt asks me to enter my GPG > passphrase for every encrypted message in the folder I'm limiting, > though! (So it's not a good option for my "sent" folder, for example.) > Any way to avoid that? Yes, use a gpg agent. Installing gn

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Joey Hess writes: > Richard Lawrence wrote: >> I've recently (re-)decided to make an effort to use PGP, and to convince >> others to use it too. (My effort to do so: >> http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rwl/encryption.html, linked from my >> .signature. Comments welcome.) But I've run into a couple o

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread John Hasler
Do you really need to archive each message in individually encrypted form? If you are concerned about the security of local copies I would think you would already be using disk or file system encryption. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-use

KVM Error creating VM

2013-07-02 Thread Inetken
I'm testing Debian Wheezy 7.1 and KVM and I'm getting the below error which I don't understand what the error is. The server is running with DHCP and NAT. I'm testing only, so I don't have a static IP or bridged adapter configured, just using NAT. I get the following error running virt-manager on

Re: Help - Gnome Died After Update/Upgrade

2013-07-02 Thread Jean-Marc
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:32:42 -0700 Mark Phillips wrote: > Steven, > > Thanks Installing gnome-shell and gnome-shell-common from unstable > worked > Running Jessie is a risky business, isn't it ? :-) As Steven said, pay attention to not update all your system. So, an example how to tra

SANE - trying to get an LIDE 110 working in Debian Squeeze.

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Lewis
The scanner is recognised by lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 03f0:0225 Hewlett-Packard Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:1909 Canon, Inc. CanoScan LiDE 110 However 'Scanimage -L' returns: No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread Joey Hess
Richard Lawrence wrote: > I've recently (re-)decided to make an effort to use PGP, and to convince > others to use it too. (My effort to do so: > http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rwl/encryption.html, linked from my > .signature. Comments welcome.) But I've run into a couple of problems > fairly quickl

How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-02 Thread Richard Lawrence
Hi list, I've recently (re-)decided to make an effort to use PGP, and to convince others to use it too. (My effort to do so: http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rwl/encryption.html, linked from my .signature. Comments welcome.) But I've run into a couple of problems fairly quickly. If you use PGP regula

Re: Wheezy (Deb 7.1) Windows Focus?

2013-07-02 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Tom Browder, 27.06.2013: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > > I just installed Deb 7.1 on Oracle VM and it's much better than my > > first experience with 7.0. However. I cannot find out how to get the > > cursor focus to be in the active window as in Deb 6+. > > I forgot to

Re: Help - Gnome Died After Update/Upgrade

2013-07-02 Thread Mark Phillips
Steven, Thanks Installing gnome-shell and gnome-shell-common from unstable worked Mark On Jul 2, 2013 8:14 AM, "Steven Post" wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 07:59 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: > > I have been running Debian testing on my laptop for several years. I > > performed a "routine

Re: Help - Gnome Died After Update/Upgrade

2013-07-02 Thread Steven Post
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 07:59 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: > I have been running Debian testing on my laptop for several years. I > performed a "routine" update/upgrade on Sunday, and I seem to have > lost gnome. At first, I could not log in, but I got that fixed. > However, when I log in, all I get i

Help - Gnome Died After Update/Upgrade

2013-07-02 Thread Mark Phillips
I have been running Debian testing on my laptop for several years. I performed a "routine" update/upgrade on Sunday, and I seem to have lost gnome. At first, I could not log in, but I got that fixed. However, when I log in, all I get is my wallpaper. No favorites on the left, no window docks (not s

Re: Kernel module version from source/package without downloading?

2013-07-02 Thread Wayne Topa
On 07/02/2013 02:54 AM, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: Am 01.07.2013 um 17:52 schrieb Wayne Topa: On 07/01/2013 10:05 AM, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: I.e. I would like the version number of a kernel module (e.g. drbd, megaraid_sas, igb) before deciding to download, compile, or install. #

Re: Tripple Booting win 7, ubuntu and Debian in whatever order

2013-07-02 Thread Benimaur Gao
Hi, I don't have a Ubuntu at hand, so I can't tell the version of grub Ubuntu is using. Suppose the "grub-pc" is used just as debian did. You can simply do that by executing: $ sudo update-grub2 this command will probe all installation in your machine, and generate a new grub config file at: /boot/

Re: Setting up simple VNC Server?

2013-07-02 Thread André Nunes Batista
I use ssh to connect and create tunnels, then a simple "x11vnc -display :0" to startup the server. If you need to stay on windows, search the web for "easy ssh tunnels putty". vnc is not a secure protocol so don't rely on just setting a password if you are accessing from faraway-pc. -- Luther B

Re: Debian machine not booting

2013-07-02 Thread James Allsopp
For ruther information: /dev/sdb3: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 0.90.00 UUID : a529cd1b:c055887e:bfe78010:bc810f04 Creation Time : Fri Nov 20 09:37:34 2009 Raid Level : raid1 Used Dev Size : 972550912 (927.50 GiB 995.89 GB) Array Size : 972550912 (927.50 GiB

Re: Debian machine not booting

2013-07-02 Thread James Allsopp
One other point sda isn't the boot hard drive, that's the partitions /sdb1 and sdc1, but these should be the same (I thought I'd mirrored them to be honest). I tried mdadm --detail /dev/sdd1 but it didn't work. I have these results if they help? /dev/md1: Version : 1.2 Creation Time : Th

Re: Tripple Booting win 7, ubuntu and Debian in whatever order

2013-07-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jul 2013 at 07:38:55 +0100, Lagun Adeshina wrote: > Ok..I installed Ubuntu from Win 7 and I am using it ok...I later tried > installing Debian just to get a feel of the two Linux. Did the Grub > booter thing in both cases but could not find Debian in the list just > ubuntu and Win 7 opti

Re: [SOLVED] Gnome3 HS after update

2013-07-02 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 01:15:48PM +0800, Stephane Duchesne wrote: > Noticed the same Gnome3 behaviour in Jessie. Gnome started but without > statusbar and > without window decorations. > Gnome Classic works fine. > > "Expect Jessie to be a bumpy ride," #gnome-next on oftc suggests. > Espec

Re: Gnome3 HS after update

2013-07-02 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:59:51PM +0200, Jean-Marc wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I updated my jessie and Gnome3 does not start anymore. > Actually, it starts but I never got any menu. > > Do other people got the same ? > > -- > Jean-Marc ---end quoted text--- Yup same here, installed Cinnamon

Re: Debian machine not booting

2013-07-02 Thread James Allsopp
Thanks Bob, I'll get back to after I've followed your instructions. I think I'm going to have to learn to type with crossed fingers! I think I initially sorted out all my partitions manually, rather than directly using the installer to do it automatically, Really appreciated, James On 2 July 201

Re:Re: why i can not burn cd ?

2013-07-02 Thread pengsir
At 2013-07-02 10:54:32,"Chris Bannister" wrote: >Please keep it on list. > >my desktop is lxde ,here is output of the command > > >root@debian:/home/debian# wodim dev=/dev/sr0 /home/debian/debian-7.1.0.iso >wodim: No write mode specified. >wodim: Assuming -tao mode. >wodim: Future vers

Re: kernel not upgraded to wheezy

2013-07-02 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 01 Jul 2013, Joel Rees wrote: > > Although I have installed the 3.9 kernel and it is present in > /boot/grub/menu.lst, it never appears in the menu when I boot. Repeated > runs of update-grub don't fix this. I reverted to grub-legacy because of > configuration problems with